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sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:24 PM
my fiances car hasnt had it changed since we bought it at 108k miles. not sure if its even been changed at all. well , the local shops and just about everywhere is wanting to charge like $650+ for the belt and water pump. we dont have the kind of cash and cant pull it out of our asses either.
my question is , would it start to slip or show something to tell us that it needs to be done? i looked at it , and it does look kinda worn , but nothing that would cause any alarm in my book , but i dont know about these things. no cracks or anything either.

also, how long have you guys gone on a timing belt before changing it? i would rather pay for it when i can , than pay for it now and be stuck paying interest when we do get around to paying it off on a CC.

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:25 PM
type of car ???

JuicyJeff
10-15-2009, 02:25 PM
I've never changed mine.. 122k miles.

hornedfrog1985
10-15-2009, 02:29 PM
Buy her a promise ring.

domllama
10-15-2009, 02:29 PM
Usually I change a timing belt every 90,000, even if it doesn't look worn you can really only get a good view if you take it out, bend it back and you will see cracks in between the teeth. If the cracks get bigger and split a tooth off you will basically be replacing your engine...so yes it's important. Try checking local highschool auto tech? for a cheaper fix than a shop? or find a friend?

Scoobydoo
10-15-2009, 02:32 PM
timing belt breakage scares me, i miss my rx7

Rich B
10-15-2009, 02:33 PM
Theres usually an inspection cover on the engine, right beside the valve cover you could take off and look.

Check for cracks, glazing (shiny), or the sides of the belt having what would look like loose threads showing.

If your engine has what they call an "interference" valve train, you dont want to put it off very long because when the belt breaks the valves and pistons cant get damaged.

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:33 PM
type of car ???

01 accord 4dr ex.

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:34 PM
Theres usually an inspection cover on the engine, right beside the valve cover you could take off and look.

Check for cracks, glazing (shiny), or the sides of the belt having what would look like loose threads showing.

If your engine has what they call an "interference" valve train, you dont want to put it off very long because when the belt breaks the valves and pistons cant get damaged.

from what ive read , thats what this has. i would really rather do it asap , but we are super tight on money.

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:34 PM
01 accord 4dr ex.

thats easier than raping a bull go on honda-tech or buy the haynes manual they sell the kits to do it online too

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:36 PM
thats easier than raping a bull go on honda-tech or buy the haynes manual they sell the kits to do it online too

:laugh:

dont i have to keep everything like top dead center or someshit or it could **** the whole thing up?

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:36 PM
just make sure nothing moves when u remove the belt and incase something does there are timing marks

DBfan187
10-15-2009, 02:37 PM
but we are super tight on money.what's more important to you right now then, walking/bikes or driving?

Scoobydoo
10-15-2009, 02:37 PM
put a wanted ad on your local craigslist, just make sure the person is certified and not some hack weekend warrior that thinks he can fix anything for cheap

i needed new from brakes a while back, put up an ad and had 5 offers in a day

got them done for the cost of parts + $50

domllama
10-15-2009, 02:37 PM
from what ive read , thats what this has. i would really rather do it asap , but we are super tight on money.

you can always grab a pack of beer..look for an ebook on your car year, find someone to borrow some tools if you don't and sit there for a weekend til you figure out how to do it..Honda's are really good about markings when you line back up the belt. I got a whole belt kit for my old civic for $100 on ebay (honda oem)

You will also need this tool if you go the DIY route to get the crank pulley bolt off:

http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt1/page_7256_127/crankshaft_pulley_holding_tool_for_honda_and_acura .html

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:38 PM
what's more important to you right now then, walking or driving?

why walk when we have bikes , son?

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:39 PM
ill look for an e-book or get a manual if anything. while im down in there , i should also do the water pump too , right?>

Ignatowski
10-15-2009, 02:39 PM
buy the repair manual and do it yourself,half a days work

tigerf117
10-15-2009, 02:39 PM
from what ive read , thats what this has. i would really rather do it asap , but we are super tight on money.

So does the waterpump need to be changed for sure? That wasn't clearly stated in the OP

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:41 PM
So does the waterpump need to be changed for sure? That wasn't clearly stated in the OP

its never been done as far as i know. everyone who ive talked about it to , said that while im getting it done , the water pump is right there. :confused:

domllama
10-15-2009, 02:42 PM
So does the waterpump need to be changed for sure? That wasn't clearly stated in the OP

yes change the waterpump if you go thru all the work to get to the timing belt.

[edit] beat me to it :]

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:42 PM
and just to be certain , as long as nothing moved when the belt is off , nothing should **** up right?
i dont want to be the ******* trying to save some money then end up buying a new motor.

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:42 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-02-HONDA-GENUINE-ACCORD-TIMING-BELT-KIT-98-02-OEM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem335600bab7QQitemZ22 0486220471QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:43 PM
all oem son

tigerf117
10-15-2009, 02:43 PM
its never been done as far as i know. everyone who ive talked about it to , said that while im getting it done , the water pump is right there. :confused:

Gotcha. Honestly, i'd get someone to do it on the cheap for you. There may also be some local uncertified shops around your area that'll do it for half the cost of a regular shop, while still having a little more peace of mind that a backyard mechanic. If you don't feel comfortable doing it yourself, dont. You can make things worse for yourself if you do screw something up, and it won't be fun (especially if its a zero clearance motor).

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:44 PM
even better includes water pump
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Timing-Belt-Kit-Honda-Accord-98-99-00-01-02-DX-LX-EX_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5883b6b5ffQQitemZ380 166911487QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcces sories#ht_1846wt_1082

domllama
10-15-2009, 02:44 PM
and just to be certain , as long as nothing moved when the belt is off , nothing should **** up right?
i dont want to be the ******* trying to save some money then end up buying a new motor.

the manual should show you a pic of how the timing is lined up..you will also see the markings on the engine itself and pulleys how to line up..but yes, if you dont move it, it should be ok.

Ignatowski
10-15-2009, 02:45 PM
I can tell you if that belt does snap your gonna have a few grand in engine damage
(bent valves)..... D I Y ~!

Rich B
10-15-2009, 02:45 PM
from what ive read , thats what this has. i would really rather do it asap , but we are super tight on money.


Yeah, were in the same spot.

Car has 102k, belt supposed to be replaced at 100k, and no money to do it.

I would do it myself (I've done them on other cars), but its our only car so we cant do without for a day or two.

That parts for our car are like $60 for the water pump, and $115 for the timing belt and the idler/tensioner pulleys.

Do you know anyone who is good with engines?

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:46 PM
all oem son


holla.

but , i did forget to mention it is the 3.0l v6. :crap:

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:47 PM
i haz a f23a engine 400 plus shipping lulz

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:47 PM
v6 ok ima gtfo

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:47 PM
Yeah, were in the same spot.

Car has 102k, belt supposed to be replaced at 100k, and no money to do it.

I would do it myself (I've done them on other cars), but its our only car so we cant do without for a day or two.

That parts for our car are like $60 for the water pump, and $115 for the timing belt and the idler/tensioner pulleys.

Do you know anyone who is good with engines?

there is a friend of the family right up the street that works on land/range rovers and those things are constantly ****ing up. ill see what he can do...

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:49 PM
i mean , ive done the belt and pump in my blazer before , but that was as simple as it gets. if i **** this up , will hear about it for the rest of my life :laugh:

blazeplacid
10-15-2009, 02:49 PM
honestly if you dont know to much about cars you shouldn't do it

find a friend to do it with you. Parts aren't so much, its just the labor.

Craigslist is ok but id watch the guy to make sure he puts everything back

DBfan187
10-15-2009, 02:51 PM
I didn't know you could **** up on repairing a Honduh.

tigerf117
10-15-2009, 02:51 PM
honestly if you dont know to much about cars you shouldn't do it

find a friend to do it with you. Parts aren't so much, its just the labor.

Craigslist is ok but id watch the guy to make sure he puts everything back

This /thread

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:51 PM
honestly if you dont know to much about cars you shouldn't do it

find a friend to do it with you. Parts aren't so much, its just the labor.

Craigslist is ok but id watch the guy to make sure he puts everything back

i know a little bit. like fuel filters , spark plugs/wires and just did my first set of brakes a month ago. if i could find a GOOD manual and have someone to help me out than i could probably do it , but i would still rather have someone who knows what their doing do it.

timaishu
10-15-2009, 02:51 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-02-HONDA-GENUINE-ACCORD-TIMING-BELT-KIT-98-02-OEM_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem335600bab7QQitemZ22 0486220471QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAcce ssories

Haha. Thats funny, Honda of Lemon Grove is a few miles from my house.

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 02:52 PM
**** , im surprised i actually got legit answers here.

+1 for the thunderdome.

mazdakid
10-15-2009, 02:53 PM
change it before its too late. my timing belt didnt look bad on my talon and a month ago it broke out of nowhere.

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:54 PM
http://n8inla.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/rickyune.jpg


he can fix it just dont disrespect his famirry

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:54 PM
:fyi:

timaishu
10-15-2009, 02:56 PM
Ohhh, and woot for my car having a timing chain. Wont ever need replacement. :)

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Ohhh, and woot for my car having a timing chain. Wont ever need replacement. :)

well see about that lemme borrow it saddle tramp

infamous_e46
10-15-2009, 03:02 PM
Op,
if you have a v6 honda do not do this yourself.

whats your zip code?

troof them j32's are in there kinda tight

sqhertz
10-15-2009, 03:05 PM
Op,
if you have a v6 honda do not do this yourself.

whats your zip code?

:crap:

27529.

mokedaddy
10-15-2009, 03:44 PM
troof them j32's are in there kinda tight

Its actually a j30. Acura has the j32.

They are a pain in the ***. I am pretty mechanically inclined and opted to pay for it. Best $250 in labor I ever spent.

flipside1212
10-19-2009, 01:17 AM
yo what motor is it? f22 f23?

i know someone that mite be able to do it around here for cheaper

slim2fattycake
10-19-2009, 01:27 AM
I didn't know f22s come in 01 accords especially the V6s. lol.

flipside1212
10-19-2009, 02:58 PM
oo didnt read it was v6

but ya i believe the f22 is in the dx model

where f23 vtec is in the lx and ex none v6

dman4486
10-19-2009, 03:00 PM
the 3.0L in my avalon has been 240k on the original timing setup....but the 4g69 I tore apart a few days ago had the original break @ 68k

I Like Waffle
10-20-2009, 11:37 PM
Timing belts are serious bizness. Im glad my cars have chains/gears instead.