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hempy
09-03-2009, 07:45 PM
I've been meaning to start building a set of 2-way speakers for my room, but have been unsure about what to build exactly. I want something quirky, while still being aesthetically pleasing (to me). I think I finally settled on an idea. It came to me while staring at the Walkman logo deliriously when I had a fever. I cut out a single piece of 1/4" mdf that I will use as a template to cut out pieces that I will layer to make the speaker "boxes."

Each speaker will have 2 NS3s, one of those rear-mounted dayton tweeter that I've been using, and a Partsexpress 2-way crossover. I forgot the points, as I bought all of them a long time ago.

They would be oriented vertically, and I'm not really sure if I'll have the tweeter offset facing inside or out.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMAG0060.jpg

hempy
09-04-2009, 03:34 PM
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Twistid
09-04-2009, 03:36 PM
Looks nice!

misfit138
09-04-2009, 07:47 PM
Dat's kracie...

bhsdriller
09-04-2009, 07:54 PM
looks tight

hempy
09-04-2009, 10:51 PM
Well, I cut the driver holes and I think I'm going to remake the top piece, either by using the back as the new front, and then remaking the back, or just cutting another front out. Not sure just yet.

Apparently the hols for the woofers were somehow not centered, and I wound up with them being just enough for me to notice. The real problem came when I went to round over the cutout for the NS3s. The first one went fine, but the combination of a dull bit and a small surface for the guide part of the bit to rest on left me with a very nasty looking cut. It's bad enough that it would take more bondo and time than I plan on spending trying to fix it, not to mention the fact that the holes are slightly off-center.

Aside from those setbacks, I really like how it's turning out.


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hempy
09-05-2009, 04:41 AM
I used the back for the new front and cut new holes, which were much better this time. I did have an issue with an uneven cut on the ttweeter hole, so i ran some bondo on the inside, taped the tweeter, and pushed it in, leaving a clean edge. I used a different bit, leaving a sharp edge around the woofers that I like a lot. I think I'll keep it instead of sanding it down, which I don't usually do.

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mr_kebo
09-05-2009, 06:16 AM
Very nice looking. Looking foward to seeing the rest

hempy
09-05-2009, 05:17 PM
I finished cutting out the template for the inner panels. I used the circle jig and did the rest freehand on the router table. I sanded everything clean using the router and a sanding drum and it looks pretty good imo.

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JBLCAMRY
09-05-2009, 05:20 PM
nice craftsmanship.

18inchjeepin
09-05-2009, 05:26 PM
these are crazy and cool

hempy
09-05-2009, 07:29 PM
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mobeious
09-05-2009, 07:30 PM
pretty freakin clean IMHO

hempy
09-07-2009, 09:17 PM
Just finished the second cabinet, and all of my main routing is done. I can finally clean up the 1/2" of dust covering an entire corner of the garage.

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hempy
09-07-2009, 09:18 PM
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req
09-07-2009, 11:42 PM
lookin snazzy!!!

cant wait to see how you finish them!

hempy
09-11-2009, 04:12 PM
Well after I noticed that the inside layers of the second cabinet weren't lining up, I taped them all together and ran them on the router again.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6758.jpg

Then i used a 3/4" square poplar dowel to make blocks for the screws to go in through the back panel. I ran them on the router to match the inside countour.

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And cut them into 1" blocks.

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The original layout, which would eventually get changed.

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I ran the blocks on the router with a sanding drum, just to clean them up a bit.

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And clamped them in

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Once I was done with that, I glued the baffles on each speaker. I had to be cautious not to mess up that clean edge around the woofers.

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hempy
09-11-2009, 04:12 PM
In lieu of an actual drill press, I ghettorigged drill bits with tape so they could fit in the router. I clamped the base to the workpiece and use the plunge base as my drill press. I had to get perfectly straight holes for the mounting screws.

I countersank each hole about 5/16" to accommodate some oversized stainless screws.

Complete with burgerlighter.

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hempy
09-12-2009, 02:07 PM
I think I may have figured out how I'm going to do the mounting bracket. I've been pricing ones out, and I'm not really too excited about paying out the *** for good wall mounts.

I started out looking in the cabinet harware, but nothig really caught my eye. But when I went by the metal stock, I noticed the threaded rod and got an idea.

I got a short 3/8" piece and used a vice, a big *** socket, and a rubber mallet to bend it into the shape I wanted. I'm not sure if I'll stick with carriage bolts or just use threaded rod, but I think I'm going to use two pieces for each speaker, centered behind the woofers, which leaves the area behind the tweeter free for binding posts.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6791.jpg

hempy
09-12-2009, 09:36 PM
I found exactly what I wanted while browsing around at Home Depot. I found stainless threaded rod, and although it was pretty expensive ($8/3ft) , it was exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.

Someone suggested that I use the rods themselves for my binding posts, which I think I'm definitely going to do.

I'm trying to find some stainless steel fender washers, but the ones at Lowes are in packs of 5 and cost like $5. I'm going to try and find some singles somewhere. I plan on getting a 5/26" washer for the 3/8" rod, then drill the center out a bit and thread the washer, so I can thread it onto the rod and have it welded, instead of having a washer and nut on the back of the speaker.

I think I'm going to make the wall plate out of MDF or something, as it's what I have laying around. I was going to originally go with some steel or aluminum plates for the wall, but if I'm going to use them for conductors I need them isolated.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6793.jpg

96MaxGLE
09-12-2009, 09:44 PM
looking awesome...

hempy
09-14-2009, 02:29 AM
I bought some cheaper regular steel threaded rod to get right before bending the stainless. The first one I bent came out pretty well, although my method of bending was pretty crude... beating it with a rubber mallet while in a vice next to a big socket. The second I put in and tried to bend broke, I tried again a few inches up and it broke again. So, I went and got more rods, and picked up some pipes to slide over the rod whie bending.

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I then decided to make a bending jig for it, and just bend with the pipe. I routed holes for the bits to sit in, and the whole thing is bolted together using the broken threaded rods. I put that whole thing in the vice and bent it, resulting in a much nicer looking radius, and no marring from the hammering or the vice.

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I think I will be able to use just the washers on the rod without welding, which would be expensive and may screw up the finish. I used 5/16" fender washers and threaded them, so they hold when bolted from behind. The washers will be flush with the surface on the speakers and wall plates.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6803.jpg

I think I will still rebend the top bar, as the one bent with the jig has much smoother bends, and I'd like them to match when starting with the stainless steel.

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hempy
09-14-2009, 09:13 PM
I routed out recesses for the stainless washers and used the clamps to force them in, as I left them tight. It looks and feels really good.

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I also finally figured out how I'm going to get all four rods bent correctly. I"m going to make all four with identical bends, then simply bolt it together, and torque with clamps until it is in the right position.

req
09-14-2009, 09:24 PM
ingenious. maybe put some heat-shrink tubing on the rods when you are all done for a nice matte black look.

awesome so far! make me a set of 5 for surround sound lol.

Alpineforever
09-14-2009, 09:25 PM
thats ****ing awesome man... i want to be you when I'm older

hempy
09-14-2009, 09:53 PM
ingenious. maybe put some heat-shrink tubing on the rods when you are all done for a nice matte black look.

awesome so far! make me a set of 5 for surround sound lol.

If it's worth it, I'm down. I'd love to do this **** for money.

hempy
09-15-2009, 02:38 PM
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hempy
09-15-2009, 02:39 PM
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schrummy
09-15-2009, 02:56 PM
nice work...

mlstrass
09-15-2009, 02:57 PM
VERY nice craftsmanship. Only potential issue I see is the very tightly press fit washers. Assuming you plan to prime/paint then the fit will get MUCH tighter and possibly chip the paint trying to reinstall them. Would hate to see you run into issues with the finish after all that hard work...

kingkongjr
09-15-2009, 02:59 PM
**** good work my man! probably very time consuming tho, right? i might even hit you up in the future to make me a pair for my room. PM me on the 'cost' youd be running for those when you get a chance. im sure we'll work out details later on.

DB-Audio
09-15-2009, 03:05 PM
very impressive nice job

hempy
09-16-2009, 04:17 AM
I'm starting on the wall plates now, and I figured I would frist try mimicking the speakers themselves first, so I routed out circles around each hole, and sanded down the "webbing" between them.

I used blocks this time to avoid the router kicking the small piece, which it still did... but the cut was perfect.

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It kind of looks like a peanut. Not sure if this is going to work out.

I wanted to try using some birch plywood, since it's much stiffer than the mdf, I figured it was worth a shot.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMAG0086.jpg

I don't know if I will use either the shape or the ply. I don't think it's worth the amount of work I'd have to put into making it paintable.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMAG0087.jpg

I might just go with a square plate with rounded edges, or without the webbing, or I may keep the shape and do a 45* chamfer instead. Thoughts?

ciaonzo
09-16-2009, 04:21 AM
Gettin' jiggy with it. Sorry... I had to.

Looks very nice.

hempy
09-17-2009, 12:24 AM
VERY nice craftsmanship. Only potential issue I see is the very tightly press fit washers. Assuming you plan to prime/paint then the fit will get MUCH tighter and possibly chip the paint trying to reinstall them. Would hate to see you run into issues with the finish after all that hard work...

Just saw this, I think I had the jasper jig a little off, making them smaller than they should have been. The next set I did slid in fine. I'll probably sand or route it a little bit so they are easier to fit in, although they are much looser now that I forced them in the first time.

I rerouted the wall plate stencil piece, a little bigger this time, and out of mdf. Im going to start using pins to hold things that I have to layer up to route. Double sided tape is a pain in the ***.

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Then I stacked them on top of each other, with the stencil in the middle, to run on the big roundover.

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I decided to empty the shopvac because it had started feeling heavy and I wasn't sure the suction was as strong as it should be.

This is how much sawdust I had...

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This bag is what came out of it.

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hempy
09-17-2009, 12:25 AM
Then I routed the circlesfor the washers.

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I believe I may start bending the stainless rod tomorrow.

hempy
09-17-2009, 07:24 PM
Well, I threaded the fender washers, and they all turn smoothly now

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I also drew out and drilled the mounting holes for the wall plate on the stencil piece.

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Then I used the pin from the Jasper Jig and some 1/8" drill bits to keep the two pieces in place as it drilled them.

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Bow-chicka-wow-wooow

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hempy
09-18-2009, 04:40 AM
The stainless turned out to be much harder to bend. I wasn't sure if it would be easier or not, as it seems softer since it scratches so easily.

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After some really messy ends from cutting with the Dremel, I decided to use the jigsaw to cut the threaded rod when I found an extra metal blade.

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They look great with the stainless washers. I'm still thinking about hitting all of the hardware with the torch. I had a hot spot when cutting with the jigsaw and the bluing looked really great.

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I still have lots to do. Lots of sanding, trim the rods, countersink the screw holes, more sanding, etc. Think I might at least have these guys up and working (unpainted) by the end of the weekend.

hempy
09-21-2009, 02:30 PM
I haven't posted anything in about 3 days, so I have way too much to post at once, so I'll probably be doing it in sections. I think I have about 50. Anyone who wants to check out progress images before posting them, I usually have them in my Photobucket.

It was pretty hot all weekend, so I tried to do minimal work outside, so I decided to start working on the wiring.

First I started by stripping off the plastic on the crimp connectors I've been using... they look messy and I prefer to heatshrink them myself.

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Without the plastic, they basically line up with the edge of the washer groove. I'm going to run them on the router and cut a 1/4" groove into them so I can have the wire split flush.

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Then I started on the pigtails, using some sleeved speaker cable that I had left over from some other projects. I used spade connectors and stripped/heatshrunk all of them too. Once the two spades were isolated, I covered the whole end in clear heatshrink so it can be pulled through the wall more easily, if need be.

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Once the pigtail was done, I taped up the groove, and set pigtail in place, filling up the groove with hot glue. I wasn't able to use heatshrink on that end, as there was no room to fit it, but I did want some sort of insulation.

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hempy
09-21-2009, 02:46 PM
And now, more wiring:

The prefab crossovers that I am going to use for now come on a pretty normally-sized crossover board, but its far too big for this project, so I removed the components and I will probably use the board itself for another 2nd order in the future.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6903.jpg


I mounted the components to some pcb board that I had laying around, that I trimmed to fit behind the tweeter.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6902.jpg


For the crossover wiring I did everything in sections, so that the time spend soldering in the garage was at a minimum.

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My lovely little work area for the moment:

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Soldered and hotglued in place:

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And now, the crossover installation progress:


Drivers in

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Tweeter wired up

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Slowly, but surely...

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mobeious
09-21-2009, 09:23 PM
im next for a set thanx

hempy
09-21-2009, 11:22 PM
im next for a set thanx

Duly noted.


This is a picture of the old wiring job I did. It wound up being too short and I had virtually no room when trying to bolt on the rods from inside. I only used it for testing while I wired up the new crossover.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6900.jpg


The crossover boards themselves are glued in for the moment. When I break them down to finish/paint them, I will probably glue some feet for them to sit on.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6901.jpg


I also decided to start working on the source for these speakers, as I am going to want to test under the conditions under which I will be listening. The amp is a budget Radioshack Accurian Home Plug unit, which puts out about 25w per channel.

I'm going to make an enclosure for it, as this thing is butt-ugly. It'll mimic the shape of the speakers to some degree, and I'll be layering it like the speakers.

In addition to the amp using my tv's output, I'll be using the amp as a sort of dock for my phone. I use it for most of my listening, as my pc has no speakers and is in another room. The phone's only plug is a single minusb, and it comes with an adapter that allows the phone to charge while outputting audio to a 2.5mm, 3.5mm, or additional miniusb jack.

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http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6910.jpg


The phone also has tv-out, but you either need an ipod av/out cable, or in my case, a soldering iron. I'll have an rca out on the back to go to the tv for video. I'll either have a minusb in for charging on the back, unless I can find a steady 5v source on the board.


Unfortunately, I did have a pretty large setback. The plug base on my router combo decided to die on me, fortunately immediately after finishing drilling some holes. That leaves me with the countersink holes to do by hand. I tried to do one with the messed up router and it was way off. I did the rest by hand and they came out okay but I may wind up redoing the wall plates again, since I have the jig to make it still.


Shot of testing both out on teh bed

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6923.jpg

Blazin_Jason
09-21-2009, 11:36 PM
I love DIY projects. Good work.

hempy
09-21-2009, 11:37 PM
After finishing one wall plate, I decided to mount one on the wall to check it out. Here is how I have to mount them, step by step:

1. Mount rods to wall plate.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6924.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6925.jpg


2. Mount to wall.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6927.jpg


3. Mount to the wall correctly.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6928.jpg


4. Mount back plate.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6929.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6930.jpg


5. Screw front of speaker onto back.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6932.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6933.jpg


6. ICE ARMS.


These are just some shots of the placement and whatnot. The TV is going in between the two closets, with the bracket at the same height as the speaker mounts, as it'll be going into that header above the left closet. I'm probably not going to have much room between the TV and the mirror, so I'm going to have to get creative with the shelf. The amp is going to go right below the TV. The TV itself is relatively small, like a 23" or something. Luckily it's a 4:3 screen, since I only have basic cable coming upstairs.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6936.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6937.jpg

hempy
09-27-2009, 07:41 PM
Alright, so updates... I have both up on the wall, unfinished, to check out the sound, and now to work on the sources I'll be using.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6970.jpg

I listened to them for a couple of days with one of Radioshack amps that I have, with the stock preamp intact. I only used it for music for those days, from my phone, and it sounded decent. The tone controls have no center, nor are they marked, so it was hard to try and find a good point, and I seemed to be changing them with every song.

Then I plugged the rcas into my tv's output (I just put it up on the wall, still need to fish cable/power/speaker wires through the wall.) and it sounded pretty friggin bad. Everything sound hollow or something, kind of muffled, and just..off. I only tried one DVD (only source I have, since theres no cable on that side of the room right now) so I wasn't sure why it sounded so bad, and didn't really have the time to mess with it.

I had another amp that was sitting around, because I had replaced the preamp with a single pot, pulled from the preamp board itself, and the channels were all screwed up. The right only came in at full volume, and the whole thing was really quiet. I had put it aside for a while. I even had a new pot that i bought a few months ago at Radioshack and never put in. So I swapped out the pots for the hell of it, and sure enough it sound freaking wonderful now. No tone controls to deal with, no crappy preamp to mess stuff up.

I hooked them back up and was very pleased with the sound. I even tried the tv and it sounded flawless. Of course, I am using a different board/transformer/etc, so it may have just been a problem with the board. Now that that one is out of commission, I'll be taking out that one's preamp and whatnot.

I need to find some sort of rta software. I only have a ****ty onboard mic, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to get some sort of measurement in-room.

This is how it sits right now: Bad pot and new pot all hanging off, still need to mount the new one, the aluminum back wall of the amp is gone. Right now I have the heatsink screwed on, with a hot glue support. It's only temporary, while I tap some new holes, although I might just cut down the aluminum back plate.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6971.jpg


I've been thinking about how to enclose the amp, and I remembered seeing this (http://www.lerival.com/products/detail/infinity-bench/by/carl-fredrik-svenstedt) a while ago, and I figured I would mimick it.

This is the frame jig I cut out. I think I might either do a natural finish wood in between painted mdf to match the speakers, or maybe continue with the stainless steel. Not sure atm.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6972.jpg


Also, you may notice the strange cut marks on the inside of the ring. That would be where the upcut bit grabbed the piece and dragged my finger into the bit. :D The weird thing was that the adjacent finger hurt much more than the one that was actually injured.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6973.jpg


I'll spare you the gore, but I've dubbed it the Zombie Finger. It just took a little chunk out, but it looks more dramatic because it took some of the nail too. It's actually my first real injury via powertools. I've decided I'm definitely going to change the way I work with small/thin pieces.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c21/hempness/IMG_6976.jpg

hempy
10-01-2009, 03:37 AM
So now that my plunge router is basically dead, I think I'm going to be selling this set after I finish them. I need a router to get back in the game.

Anyone interested? :D

Flipx99
10-02-2009, 10:36 PM
how much?

misfit138
10-02-2009, 10:50 PM
No way I'd sell them, man. They're too nice looking...

undeadxsunshine
10-02-2009, 10:53 PM
keep up the good work, the craftsmanship here is unbelievable!

hempy
10-03-2009, 02:46 PM
how much?

Probably at least 200 once I get them painted.



No way I'd sell them, man. They're too nice looking...

Meh, I get bored easily with projects. :) Always working on the next one.

And with home audio builds, I don't have to tear my car apart to start a new one. :D

J31Rob
10-03-2009, 03:01 PM
That is very, very impressive. I'm glad to see people with skill actually still come on this site.

dvrmstrng
10-12-2009, 01:56 AM
i had a nice set of bookshelves with those same drivers i think....

someone on here built them for me.

hempy
10-12-2009, 02:19 AM
i had a nice set of bookshelves with those same drivers i think....

someone on here built them for me.

Yeah that was me. :cool: