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Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 04:12 AM
I'm stuck between these two head units. I'm not trying to get anything too fancy, just something with good preamp volts, reliability, and can run an ipod. The pioneer is cheaper but not by too much. I hear good things about about both, but is the Kenwood worth the little bit extra cash? Please help me make a decision!

PBateman
08-29-2009, 04:13 AM
Stick with alpine.:D

adio25
08-29-2009, 04:18 AM
Stick with alpine.:D

Pioneer's lower end models have more features than alpine for the same price. Stick to Pioneer.

Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 04:19 AM
Well this is going in my Explorer for my future SPL build. I'm keeping the Alpine in my daily driver.

PBateman
08-29-2009, 04:27 AM
Pioneer's lower end models have more features than alpine for the same price. Stick to Pioneer.

I'm not really a fan of most of the pioneer decks. The 880's are very nice and they do have the sexiest high end HU on the planet. Too bad you can't buy it in the us yet. :crying:

PBateman
08-29-2009, 04:35 AM
Well this is going in my Explorer for my future SPL build. I'm keeping the Alpine in my daily driver.

Sounds good! What are you going to run in the explorer? Are you going to the show next month?

Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 04:52 AM
Sounds good! What are you going to run in the explorer? Are you going to the show next month?

Probably not gona make it to the show. I still have to put everything together. I'm just getting things one at a time. I'm thinking about running either four SA-12's or a pair of Nightshades (12" or 15" not sure though) on a SAZ-3500D or a pair of SAZ-2000D's. If I get the head unit ordered and installed by the show, I could stick in my pair of SA-12's and SAE-1200D but it probably wont score as high as I would like..probably around a 145 or so.

d-REW
08-29-2009, 05:00 AM
Probably not gona make it to the show. I still have to put everything together. I'm just getting things one at a time. I'm thinking about running either four SA-12's or a pair of Nightshades (12" or 15" not sure though) on a SAZ-3500D or a pair of SAZ-2000D's. If I get the head unit ordered and installed by the show, I could stick in my pair of SA-12's and SAE-1200D but it probably wont score as high as I would like..probably around a 145 or so.

its a bassrace bring anything he has 4 classes set up :).

PBateman
08-29-2009, 05:16 AM
its a bassrace bring anything he has 4 classes set up :).

Very true, it should be a lot of fun. I think most of the folks will be in either the 120-129.9 or 130-139.9 class. There is only going to be a few shows left this year so try your best to make it.

Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 05:18 AM
its a bassrace bring anything he has 4 classes set up :).

Is it strictly bass race only? Cuz it would be helpful to find my resonant frequency if there was DB Drag as well.

d-REW
08-29-2009, 05:29 AM
ask james (pbateman) hes running it im sure he'd let you hit the TL after the show to see. i think he added a drive by catagory too.

PBateman
08-29-2009, 06:02 AM
Is it strictly bass race only? Cuz it would be helpful to find my resonant frequency if there was DB Drag as well.

Tell you what, if you come to the show (and enter) i'll let you use the TL as many times as you want. :D

Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 04:15 PM
Tell you what, if you come to the show (and enter) i'll let you use the TL as many times as you want. :D

Sounds good. If I can get some wire together and get my deck installed I will definitely make it. I'm at school so I don't have much time to do it unless I come home a couple weekends.

But anyways, anyone else have any opinions on the head units?!

Ignatowski
08-29-2009, 06:01 PM
pioneer is a fuse blowing ,rca shorting piece of garbage

ejschultz
08-29-2009, 08:32 PM
I don't have any experience with the 4100, but I do like the 693. My girlfriend has the 693 in her car and I'd say it's definitely worth the money and then some.

Mattd0344
08-29-2009, 11:15 PM
Alright well just that little bit and seeing a bunch of pioneer problems from searching, I'm thinking about just going with the kenwood. Thanks to all who gave their input, I appreciate it.

papermaker
08-30-2009, 12:16 AM
693 any day..

mhart
08-30-2009, 12:19 AM
i just got the 693 and it's nice, lets me xover my highs that are powered by it, the preouts are ok too. if the sun gets on it, it is hard to see.

inkfx
08-30-2009, 12:57 AM
I love my Kenwood unit. I had the 4000UB before and hated it. The fact that I had to ground my RCAs just to get rid of some stupid noise is ridiculous. My Kenwood is easier for me to use, especially with an iPod or large storage device. Also has some extra features over the Pioneer. As others have mentioned, the only real problem is when the sun shines on the face plate. It makes reading the layout pretty hard. Although I think most units will have this problem to some extent. Go with the Kenwood, you wont be disappointed.

Mattd0344
08-31-2009, 03:56 AM
I love my Kenwood unit. I had the 4000UB before and hated it. The fact that I had to ground my RCAs just to get rid of some stupid noise is ridiculous. My Kenwood is easier for me to use, especially with an iPod or large storage device. Also has some extra features over the Pioneer. As others have mentioned, the only real problem is when the sun shines on the face plate. It makes reading the layout pretty hard. Although I think most units will have this problem to some extent. Go with the Kenwood, you wont be disappointed.


i just got the 693 and it's nice, lets me xover my highs that are powered by it, the preouts are ok too. if the sun gets on it, it is hard to see.


693 any day..

Thanks for the added assurance guys! I really appreciate the input. KDC-X693 it is!