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loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:19 PM
well title says it all...

we had a deal and u have yet to pay.. u have ignored ALL my PMs and have treated me liek u think i am a scammer. WHY THE HELL WOULD I SCAM IF I JUST GOT SCAMMED??? makes sense?? sure!

u tried to tell me u were convinced u would get a box of rocks...

now why the hell would i insure rocks??? expensive rocks huh??

PAY ME NOW! uphold the end of the deal on ur part. stop hiding in ur cave and pay me now. enjoy the light and uphold urself.

until then.. i would recommend anyone from not doin business with him.. he was a good guy at first but now he is just a tool.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 04:21 PM
with his post count and random *** comments i would have never done a deal with him unless he paid first.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:23 PM
well i am insured so..

he has 100 % feedback on ebay.

he seemed cool but looks liek he is a turd..

if he does reply i will see hwo he does.

if not looks liek he is gunan be thrown in the trash.

SocialStealth.. CALLIN YA OUT BRA!

jadon087
08-25-2009, 04:24 PM
how long has it been and what were the details of the transaction?

xxxbasshead
08-25-2009, 04:26 PM
***** he wanted me to ship 2 8's to him before he paid looks like i was right not to trust him.

Hope u get paid

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:26 PM
been three days since last reply and delivered a few hours ago. he has been browsing online also.

details wer i sold him my sundown saz1500. i agreed to ship first since i was new here. he agreed to pay once i shipped. i told him bout me gettin scammed and he automatically assumed i was tryin to scam him.

first off if i did he would be protected by paypal. second off i agreed to ship first so he would recieve the amp.....

he has yet to uphold ANYTHING on his behalf.

James Bang
08-25-2009, 04:27 PM
I don't understand this issue. Did you already ship the item, which he is supposed to pay for?

always get paid for the item(s) before you ship.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:28 PM
yep. the item has been delivered already. he is supposed to have already payed. guess wat??? nope!
i would reccomend not doing business with until i get this cleared. seemed lie a good dude. very responsive but i will let you guys kno. once it is cleared up(IF) i will be sure to tell everyone he is good.

Shinju
08-25-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't understand this issue. Did you already ship the item, which he is supposed to pay for?

always get paid for the item(s) before you ship.

Synapsis of the issue.


Social wanted LoudacruaTL's SAZ-1500d, Since Loud is new to ca.com and no references Social asked him to ship first, Social told Loud once the amplifier arrived he will pay him as soon as he got the amp.

The amplifier has been delivered and no payment has been made, Social is not returning PM's and has been active on the Classifieds as of today, Looking into buying other stereo gear with out paying Loud for his amplifier first.


I believe this how it went down...

James Bang
08-25-2009, 04:33 PM
yep. the item has been delivered already. he is supposed to have already payed. guess wat??? nope!
i would reccomend not doing business with until i get this cleared. seemed lie a good dude. very responsive but i will let you guys kno. once it is cleared up(IF) i will be sure to tell everyone he is good.
Well, that's where you messed up. If I do not personally know the buyer, I would wait til the funds are receive before shipping out.



Edit: He should pay NOW

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:34 PM
^ yep exactly!

checked his ebay account.. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=socialstealth&ftab=AllFeedback

now Why the hell is he acting liek this on here? i will trash his ebay account if i recieve no money within the next 2 hours

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:35 PM
nope packaged has been delievered and accepted by recipient. he is browsing on here so.....

shady dude IMO

dennit469
08-25-2009, 04:39 PM
thats funny, hes been pm'ing me for the last 30 minutes about my speakers he wants to buy but i would have to ship first, then i tolf him that i couldnt ndo that and havent had a response yet

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:40 PM
yeah man.
looks liek ima trash his ebay in a few and make a claim.

i got hsi number.

maybe i should call his ***

jadon087
08-25-2009, 04:41 PM
bad move on your part shipping without getting payed. IF yall had agreed he would be covered by paypal then why didnt he pay first?

Also he's just as new as you, did you check his refs atleast before you made the deal?

bigaudiofanati2
08-25-2009, 04:41 PM
Hang on let me get something :popcorn: Okay now you may continue

jadon087
08-25-2009, 04:42 PM
address you shipped to?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:55 PM
YES.

did u not see his ebay?

so am i covered through FedEx or paypal?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 04:59 PM
address was..

Robert Wegrzyniak
24 oak ct.
West Berlin, NJ 08091

jadon087
08-25-2009, 05:00 PM
YES.

did u not see his ebay?

so am i covered through FedEx or paypal?

neither will probably cover you since you didn't do the transaction through paypal and fedex only insures for damage they have done not user fault. sorry man looks like you might be out a amp.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 05:02 PM
how the **** will i not be covered? the dude ****ing scammed me.

i thought fedex covered theft also?

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 05:07 PM
Shipping before payment strikes most people as the same as paying before shipment. Both sides want to get before they send, no real way to make both happy.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 05:13 PM
for u that find this funny i dont.
ca.com is a zoo of **** scammers.

ima make a claim on his *** and **** his reputation for selling up.

i am gunna call him later on tonight also. very pissed!

tipnitty
08-25-2009, 05:28 PM
fedex will not cover anything, the item was delivered safely...

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:28 PM
If I make a new account and get 30 posts will you give me 350$?

I clearly told him I would pay for the amp after I received it.
He continued to ask me to pay for the package while it was in transit.
I told him to ship via USPS, he shipped via fedex. He said he would make a compromising thread about me if I didn't pay before the package arrived. He said he would cancel the package if I didn't pay immediately. I told him to cancel to package.

It arrived today. Youll never guess what was inside :crazy:

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:31 PM
a bag of tacos?

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 06:32 PM
If I make a new account and get 30 posts will you give me 350$?

I clearly told him I would pay for the amp after I received it.
He continued to ask me to pay for the package while it was in transit.
I told him to ship via USPS, he shipped via fedex. He said he would make a compromising thread about me if I didn't pay before the package arrived. He said he would cancel the package if I didn't pay immediately. I told him to cancel to package.

It arrived today. Youll never guess what was inside :crazy:

Pics?

grimreper912003
08-25-2009, 06:32 PM
If I make a new account and get 30 posts will you give me 350$?

I clearly told him I would pay for the amp after I received it.
He continued to ask me to pay for the package while it was in transit.
I told him to ship via USPS, he shipped via fedex. He said he would make a compromising thread about me if I didn't pay before the package arrived. He said he would cancel the package if I didn't pay immediately. I told him to cancel to package.

It arrived today. Youll never guess what was inside :crazy:

Rocks?

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:32 PM
If I make a new account and get 30 posts will you give me 350$?

I clearly told him I would pay for the amp after I received it.
He continued to ask me to pay for the package while it was in transit.
I told him to ship via USPS, he shipped via fedex. He said he would make a compromising thread about me if I didn't pay before the package arrived. He said he would cancel the package if I didn't pay immediately. I told him to cancel to package.

It arrived today. Youll never guess what was inside :crazy:


:popcorn: :wow:

James Bang
08-25-2009, 06:32 PM
If I make a new account and get 30 posts will you give me 350$?

I clearly told him I would pay for the amp after I received it.
He continued to ask me to pay for the package while it was in transit.
I told him to ship via USPS, he shipped via fedex. He said he would make a compromising thread about me if I didn't pay before the package arrived. He said he would cancel the package if I didn't pay immediately. I told him to cancel to package.

It arrived today. Youll never guess what was inside :crazy:

an amp?

If you told him to cancel the package, why didn't you refuse it or bring it back to fedex to return to sender?

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:33 PM
an amp?

X 2 :laugh:

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:35 PM
Could be either one is scamming here.

Johnny Law.Lulz
08-25-2009, 06:35 PM
Im not dealing with either one of them so i couldnt care less about all this.

PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 06:36 PM
Hurry and tell us already

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:36 PM
the transaction was for a 1500 Sundown SAZ

I opened it with my dad and said wait...what?

Because there was a box inside the box, a SAZ 3000d box!

Pretty sweet huh?

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/SocialStealth/a-1.jpg

Johnny Law.Lulz
08-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Oh wow. Someone used another box to ship sometihng. Dam, i hope Db-r Doesnt trash that Brand X box i sent him cuz my SAE-1200 wont get fixed.

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:38 PM
So... you got a box, and no amp? Nice pic.

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Then inside that box were 2 10 lb weights :laugh:
Packaged EXTREMELY well.
He obviously has seen the 'how to package heavy items' thread, because he utilized the pool-styrofoam noodle packaging technique, as well as a crapload of foam peanuts

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/SocialStealth/b-1.jpg

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:38 PM
Edit: Interesting..

bhsdriller
08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
hmmmmm

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
He sent you free free weights?

PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Bahahahhaahaaaaaaaa

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
Ok.. Who is to believe here?? OP calls out buyer.. Buyer says her recieved wieghts?? WTF?? Ill stick to buying from peeps I know..

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
And this idiot started the thread to ***** about YOU?

Guy needs to go back to Scamming 101. First lesson: you can't scam someone that won't pay before you ship the item...

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:41 PM
What do you have to say for yourself loudacuratl?

James Bang
08-25-2009, 06:41 PM
Dual scam?

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:42 PM
It was a dual scam that backfired.. HAHAHAHA!!!! :laugh:

This is classic!

bhsdriller
08-25-2009, 06:42 PM
lol, dude failed at scamming

where'd the op go

Inboost
08-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Then inside that box were 2 10 lb weights :laugh:
Packaged EXTREMELY well.
He obviously has seen the 'how to package heavy items' thread, because he utilized the pool-styrofoam noodle packaging technique, as well as a crapload of foam peanuts

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/SocialStealth/b-1.jpg

Thats crazy

PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Omg supa epicness

Smaxor5
08-25-2009, 06:43 PM
Wow this is verrrrrry interesting. There is absolutely no way to prove this case either way. If OP is telling the truth he loses an amp, if social is telling the truth he gets free weights! Awesome

PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 06:44 PM
Scammer scamming another scammer?

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:45 PM
Wow this is verrrrrry interesting. There is absolutely no way to prove this case either way. If OP is telling the truth he loses an amp, if social is telling the truth he gets free weights! Awesome

Werd, just to be safe never do business with either of them.

James Bang
08-25-2009, 06:45 PM
SocialStealth, when did you receive the package?

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:45 PM
I must admit, I was tempted to pay him after I verified the tracking, If he didn't say "just pay me 200$ now instead because I really need the money"

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 06:46 PM
One guy has a bunch of refs. The other guy doesn't.

I don't think this is a case of dual-scamming.

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:46 PM
I must admit, I was tempted to pay him after I verified the tracking, If he didn't say "just pay me 200$ now instead because I really need the money"

That would be a pretty big red flag if true... PM to prove that statement?

AllenH427
08-25-2009, 06:46 PM
Both are scammers... neg rep that.

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:46 PM
loudacuratl has a few scammer threads..


http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=427995

Dude is a mess... Scammer or not a scammer.. That is the question..

Johnny Law.Lulz
08-25-2009, 06:48 PM
loudacuratl is a stupid ****. And a Scammer.

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:49 PM
SocialStealth, when did you receive the package?

Today.

btw, I have a 1500d SAZ forsale if anyone is interested.



:laugh:
just kidding.

ssackett
08-25-2009, 06:50 PM
^^ Love the comedy. This thread just made my day better. HAHAHA!

James Bang
08-25-2009, 06:51 PM
Today.

btw, I have a 1500d SAZ forsale if anyone is interested.



:laugh:
just kidding.

Then why didn't YOU make a scam thread? instead you were casually interested in Tang Bang midbasses as if you weren't almost scammed.

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 06:54 PM
Yeah, when people try to take 350$ from me I generally don't like it too much.

Johnny Law.Lulz
08-25-2009, 06:56 PM
He wasnt scammed. Duh. He never paid him so he never lost anything. He jsut got a huge joke out of this.

PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 06:59 PM
Smellz fishy

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 06:59 PM
I hadn't seen the package yet :fyi:

check the IP's I was at my friends house

Twisted_0912
08-25-2009, 07:00 PM
Smellz fishy

close your legs :confused:

:laugh:

jadon087
08-25-2009, 07:02 PM
We need some post count and ref restrictions in the classifieds. This site is just turning into scam nation.

Twisted_0912
08-25-2009, 07:05 PM
We need some post count and ref restrictions in the classifieds. This site is just turning into scam nation.

how would you be able to start selling anything on here if you couldnt post a classified ad without refs?

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 07:22 PM
how would you be able to start selling anything on here if you couldnt post a classified ad without refs?

Have a mod-staff whose job it is to verify people. Could do it the way PayPal makes you verify your bank account, at least kinda:

1) Person applies to be a seller.

2) Mod sends seller an envelope with a question written on the inside flap, no PO Boxes.

3) Seller PM's mod that they got the letter.

4) Mod calls seller on the phone to get the answer to the question.

5) If the seller answers the question right, they get a badge or something, or go on the "verified" list that could be a sticky on this page.

They're "verified" in that we have a name/address/phone for them, which means if they try and pull a scam we can report them to the police instantly.

This way there's no need to verify buyers, all payments are made BEFORE shipping since sellers are all verified prior to being allowed to sell.

Just a thought.

pntbllwlly
08-25-2009, 07:32 PM
LOL i just read the whole thread.

And I must say, i was thoroughly entertained haha.

Shinju
08-25-2009, 07:35 PM
Have a mod-staff whose job it is to verify people. Could do it the way PayPal makes you verify your bank account, at least kinda:

1) Person applies to be a seller.

2) Mod sends seller an envelope with a question written on the inside flap, no PO Boxes.

3) Seller PM's mod that they got the letter.

4) Mod calls seller on the phone to get the answer to the question.

5) If the seller answers the question right, they get a badge or something, or go on the "verified" list that could be a sticky on this page.

They're "verified" in that we have a name/address/phone for them, which means if they try and pull a scam we can report them to the police instantly.

This way there's no need to verify buyers, all payments are made BEFORE shipping since sellers are all verified prior to being allowed to sell.

Just a thought.



Not going to happen.

Not the Mods job to verify every seller and buyer when they are not getting paid. Even if they were getting paid that would be way to much work and time.

tipnitty
08-25-2009, 07:35 PM
is this a thread full of win .....or loss.....i'm not really sure but comedic none the less

Mr.Ronin_2U
08-25-2009, 07:36 PM
well i am insured so..

he has 100 % feedback on ebay.

he seemed cool but looks liek he is a turd..

if he does reply i will see hwo he does.

if not looks liek he is gunan be thrown in the trash.

SocialStealth.. CALLIN YA OUT BRA!


****,learn to spell.

power-fanatic07
08-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Ok.. Who is to believe here?? OP calls out buyer.. Buyer says her recieved wieghts?? WTF?? Ill stick to buying from peeps I know..

fo sho

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 07:37 PM
Not going to happen.

Not the Mods job to verify every seller and buyer when they are not getting paid. Even if they were getting paid that would be way to much work and time.

Well that's really the only way to make things iron-clad. Might make for a good idea on its own website...

power-fanatic07
08-25-2009, 07:40 PM
Well that's really the only way to make things iron-clad. Might make for a good idea on its own website...

CACO

ThatChevyGuy
08-25-2009, 07:45 PM
Well since your new here, you learned a lesson.

Like others said, NEVER EVER ship to someone first NO MATTER how long they have been here.

SomeGuyDude
08-25-2009, 08:12 PM
Well since your new here, you learned a lesson.

Like others said, NEVER EVER ship to someone first NO MATTER how long they have been here.

You seem to be assuming he DIDN'T send the guy 10 lb weights in the wrong box.

Johnny Law.Lulz
08-25-2009, 08:14 PM
Seems like ********* are still reading the first post and then posting themselves and not seeing that the OP is a scammer himself who has since, disappeared.

gboo559
08-25-2009, 08:26 PM
I think the fedex driver stole the amp and replaced it with weights.
Maybe he's into car audio :rolleyes:

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:47 PM
first off i hadnt had time to wait around for u to respond to all my pm's

i had a soccer game.

second off no i sent the amp. anyone on SMD can verify with Earthman that he used the saz3000d box to ship me his saz1500d which i sold to social slayer.

third u r trying to scam me social. the number u gave me is a pawn shop to call. dont try to **** me over by puttin in two 10 pound weights.
ur a low life who tries to **** ppl over.

so what u wanna do?
get ur rep ruined? i clearly shipped the amp.

how bout that manual that was in there huh? u took out the amp and are clearly trying to rip me off.
i want to get down to teh bottom of this now.

eith u pay me or i will file a claim and use the pics to show to fedex.

u can call my local fed ex. box was firm with no moving objects within the box.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:49 PM
oh and BTW. 1 pool noodle was on each end to secure the amp tightly.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:53 PM
oh to add to it.

i have the reciept and can take a pic if requested. package weighed in at exactly 20 pounds.
add in the outside box weight,saz3k box weight,and odds and ends and u r over 20 pounds......

seems to me liek ur little plan to scam me backfired buddy.................... explain that

Ekimdude
08-25-2009, 08:53 PM
Ha I live in the same city as SocialStealth and know him IRL, OP pm and maybe I can help. He dont want none.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:55 PM
u sir got a pm.

tapout
08-25-2009, 08:55 PM
post tracking number. It will show weight. Who know the weight of a 1500?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:56 PM
045762510077622

x1le
08-25-2009, 08:57 PM
this thread is full of lulz.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 08:58 PM
i want this to be serious.

i just want my money or the amp back and i am done with this guy.
simple.

TaTonka
08-25-2009, 09:01 PM
Lets do some math here :)

Length of a SAZ3000d = 23"
Length of a SAZ1500d = 17"
----------------------------
Difference of 6"

The average pool noodle has a diameter of 4". You put 2 of those in the box, adding 8" to the diameter of the SAZ1500 (now making it 25")

Considering a little room for error and also a pool noodle has some give to it, I'd say the OP may be legit with this one.

tapout
08-25-2009, 09:02 PM
Weight 20.0 lbs/9.1 kg

20lb in weights plus packaging would be atleast 21.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:03 PM
^ that right there is the proof i needed.

i have NEVER and will continue to never scam anyone.

plus i never agreed to ship usps.

usps ****s me over if any of u here are on smd u would u know the story.

Social needs to grow up and pay.

if not then send me the amp back. simple as that

and plus u gotta think on the saz1500 adding the terminals and the bubblewrap on sides u got ur 2 inches of play..

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Lets do some math here :)

Length of a SAZ3000d = 23"
Length of a SAZ1500d = 17"
----------------------------
Difference of 6"

The average pool noodle has a diameter of 4". You put 2 of those in the box, adding 8" to the diameter of the SAZ1500 (now making it 25")

Considering a little room for error and also a pool noodle has some give to it, I'd say the OP may be legit with this one.

Yeah, so OP must be telling the truth because he knows how big an amp is!
That is stupid reasoning right there.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:04 PM
i am tellin the truth.

this dude is a low life in my book.

TaTonka
08-25-2009, 09:06 PM
Yeah, so OP must be telling the truth because he knows how big an amp is!
That is stupid reasoning right there.

I don't see how it is stupid? It does make some bit of sense

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:08 PM
even without that factor..... just liek i proved even adding two 10 pound weights wouldnt make it exactly 20....

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:09 PM
I don't see how it is stupid? It does make some bit of sense

The guy bought it off of someone else, which he already said. He is probably just saying he packed the amp the way he received it.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:10 PM
so if i packed the amp the way i recieved it then i would have shipped the amp.......

u make no sense.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:11 PM
even without that factor..... just liek i proved even adding two 10 pound weights wouldnt make it exactly 20....

Fedex and UPS and USPS definitely dont go by exact numbers. I sent a computer which I weighed on 2 sets of scales and it was around 31.5 pounds. When I shipped it UPS said it weighed 30lbs.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:12 PM
so if i packed the amp the way i recieved it then i would have shipped the amp.......

u make no sense.

You are stupid. Read my post. You are just saying that is how you shipped it, because that is how you received, so obviously the math will make sense, since it was already shipped this way to you. Just because you say you packed it a certain way doesnt mean you really did. :rolleyes:

x1le
08-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Lets do some math here :)

Length of a SAZ3000d = 23"
Length of a SAZ1500d = 17"
----------------------------
Difference of 6"

The average pool noodle has a diameter of 4". You put 2 of those in the box, adding 8" to the diameter of the SAZ1500 (now making it 25")

Considering a little room for error and also a pool noodle has some give to it, I'd say the OP may be legit with this one.

whoa, detective tonka over here...

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:13 PM
THAT DOESNT MATTER.

if it arrived that way then either two thigns happened.

1. the FedEx driver committed theft or
2. the reciever(SocialStealth) removed the amp and replaced with weights. this is simple and should be obvious...

TaTonka
08-25-2009, 09:14 PM
vids of packing, complete trip to fedex, and dropping package off is required my OP

vids of arrival and opening are required by the receiver


:fyi:

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:15 PM
THAT DOESNT MATTER.

if it arrived that way then either two thigns happened.

1. the FedEx driver committed theft or
2. the reciever(SocialStealth) removed the amp and replaced with weights. this is simple and should be obvious...

Or you sent it with weights in it, and are saying you sent it how you received it from the other seller.

yikes vR
08-25-2009, 09:15 PM
Social is a scammer, OP is a special needs child.

Both should kill themselves.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:16 PM
how bout this micah.
u r not helping at all. all u r doing is coming in and gettin on ur knees for stealth.

i want helpful info. not something u assume.

if this guy could not respond to my PMs wouldnt that be a bit of a clue that he DID in fact recieve the amp?

if he would have responded he would have been angry.

seems liek u needa think before u speak

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:17 PM
Social is a scammer, OP is a special needs child.

Both should kill themselves.

how am i a special needs child?

stay out of this if ur gunan come in actin stupid. GTFO

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 09:17 PM
how are we suppose to help, when social is claiming you sent weights, and your claiming you sent the amp?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:17 PM
Or you sent it with weights in it, and are saying you sent it how you received it from the other seller.

no. the other seller didnt use pool noodles.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:18 PM
how bout this micah.
u r not helping at all. all u r doing is coming in and gettin on ur knees for stealth.

i want helpful info. not something u assume.

if this guy could not respond to my PMs wouldnt that be a bit of a clue that he DID in fact recieve the amp?

if he would have responded he would have been angry.

seems liek u needa think before u speak

How bout this douchebag.
I am not sticking up for SocialStealth. I would not buy from either one of you. I am just showing why the other guy's logic is flawed and could be far from the truth.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:19 PM
well i sent the amp. simple as that.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:20 PM
no. the other seller didnt use pool noodles.

And the pics to prove this are where? Either way, I think you are an idiot for sending an item before receiving payment. Especially to someone with not very many posts.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:21 PM
ok first off...... even if i had pics i am sure u would try to say oh he made pics then took the amp out so no point proven there,,

guess iw ill just have to file an insurance claim at fedex.

hornedfrog1985
08-25-2009, 09:23 PM
Good luck with that.

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 09:23 PM
ok first off...... even if i had pics i am sure u would try to say oh he made pics then took the amp out so no point proven there,,

guess iw ill just have to file an insurance claim at fedex.

a insurance claim will do nothing for you. your best bet is to contact the local authority in his area

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:23 PM
oh and BTW the dude gave me the number to a Pawn Shop.

i can post teh number and a screenshot of him sending the number to me if requested and u can call if u would like so he kinda ****ed himeslf there..

tapout
08-25-2009, 09:23 PM
ok first off...... even if i had pics i am sure u would try to say oh he made pics then took the amp out so no point proven there,,

guess iw ill just have to file an insurance claim at fedex.

for what? You paid them to ship it. They did. They will laugh you out of there.

power-fanatic07
08-25-2009, 09:24 PM
yea gl with that lol. if you tell them your side of the story they are going to think you or the other guy is attempting insurance fraud.

tapout
08-25-2009, 09:25 PM
OP, whether you shipped it or not, you dont have a leg to stand on. There is nothing you can do. Ruining his rep here is about all.

His local police will even laugh at you.

Sorry.

NightDrifter05
08-25-2009, 09:26 PM
The insurance claim won't work because they will want you to bring in a package with a damaged product and you can't do that. You don't just call Fed Ex tell them the amp was broke and they give you money. Unless you get the original packaging back with a broken amp you can't do anything about it.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:27 PM
oh and BTW the dude gave me the number to a Pawn Shop.

i can post teh number and a screenshot of him sending the number to me if requested and u can call if u would like so he kinda ****ed himeslf there..

Ok lets see the screenshot of the PM.

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 09:28 PM
oh and BTW the dude gave me the number to a Pawn Shop.

i can post teh number and a screenshot of him sending the number to me if requested and u can call if u would like so he kinda ****ed himeslf there..

you have been scammed call the local authority in his area

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:28 PM
another thing i would like u ll to notice is in the pic of the weights..... there is only one box.

in a sundown box there is a box inside the actually black amp box. one that has a testing number on it.

he even states there was a box inside that box. if u look in the pic.... where is the other box???

Social u have clearly removed the amp.

u fail at scammin

power-fanatic07
08-25-2009, 09:30 PM
another thing i would like u ll to notice is in the pic of the weights..... there is only one box.

in a sundown box there is a box inside the actually black amp box. one that has a testing number on it.

he even states there was a box inside that box. if u look in the pic.... where is the other box???

Social u have clearly removed the amp.

u fail at scammin

i believe he scammed you so how did he fail :confused:

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:33 PM
because he didnt leave the second box in....

so he clearly right there dug himself a hole

NightDrifter05
08-25-2009, 09:33 PM
Or MAYBE he took the second box out of the first box which throw's your theory out the window.

mazdakid
08-25-2009, 09:35 PM
i would have gone for a really big amp if i was him and he really did switch it out for the weights

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:38 PM
there was a total 3 boxes.

Outter box then the sundown 3k box then the testing box...

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 09:38 PM
Social screwed up! Fedex PUTS EXACT weight on there TN's, by code because of truck transit codes. They wouldnt be off 1lb, cause first that is money lost on there end and the weight on the trucks wont match the paperwork.

And I dont see how two weights didnt destroy the inside of that box, cause you can clearly see they are just laying in there.

Where did Social Go?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:40 PM
exactly! another point.

that box is in excellent shape.
and BTW why would i insure weights

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:41 PM
eal

Quote:
Originally Posted by loudacuratl
Quote:
Originally Posted by SocialStealth
Quote:
Originally Posted by loudacuratl
i have ppl who live in ur city.

u WILL not F UCK me over!
Thats not my house

so u had me send it to where u didnt live??

dug urself deeper..


my neighbor is a cop.

leave me alone.


this make any sense to anyone?

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 09:43 PM
He went to install it in his dad's ride since that's his witness who also saw him open the box with weights. Wow so many scams going on lately...I have bought 3-4 times at most on this site in the 6 yrs. i've been here and thankfully have not had any bad experiences...

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:48 PM
so ur goin by his word?

look back in the past posts by him.

he clearly said AFTER he posted pics he has not seen the package yet.........
he said he was at a friends and to check the IP.''now does that make since at all to anyone
?

and if in fact he did get scammed.....
he woudl have blew up my PM box all pissed off.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 09:48 PM
You need to collect as much evidence as possible and find information for whoever's residence that was you shipped the amp to, they can also be charged as an assesory to his theft. If the address matches his ebay account then it is his.

Without proven evidence like pms and all convo's receipts and witness you have no case sir. I would take his *** to court just for the hell of it, if it was me. Either that or go down there and and pay a suprise to him and his local pd in person.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 09:49 PM
so ur goin by his word?

look back in the past posts by him.

he clearly said AFTER he posted pics he has not seen the package yet.........
he said he was at a friends and to check the IP.''now does that make since at all to anyone
?

and if in fact he did get scammed.....
he woudl have blew up my PM box all pissed off.

There is no possible way he could have gotten scammed he sent you no money so either way its a win win situation for him. You should have atleast got a half down payment bro.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 09:51 PM
so ur goin by his word?

look back in the past posts by him.

he clearly said AFTER he posted pics he has not seen the package yet.........
he said he was at a friends and to check the IP.''now does that make since at all to anyone
?

and if in fact he did get scammed.....
he woudl have blew up my PM box all pissed off.

Why would he be mad if he got a free set of weights? Also, he stated when it arrived, he was at his friends house, and he didnt see the package yet. Then later, he said he opened it and then posted pictures.

skittlesRgood
08-25-2009, 09:53 PM
this really could go either way. loudacura - none of your logic or proof that he is lying holds any real back bone. you could be very easily lying about all of it.

now what I see in the pic is that the box looks to perfect. packing peanuts all look perfect. they are spread around all evenly but there are not very many of them. you pick up the box and tip it to one side, all the packing would be on one side. the weights dont have packing under them and would easily slide into and under the noodles. they would not just sit in the middle of the box all perfect like they are. we all know how these companies ship our packages. its never uprite, they toss them around, weights in a box like that would do damage. probably even punch circle holes in the bottom of the (very thin) amp box because under the box would be more soft packing.

now for all these people that just come on and yell at whoever they want... why? you are just making things worse by speaking with no intelligence. you all pick the popular person to side with and its pathetic.

i will agree with the many people that say, i wont deal with either of you.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:55 PM
skittles.... i was tryin to say that but blew up in my face...

box is perfect.. that should be enough proof.

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 09:56 PM
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tylork92
08-25-2009, 09:57 PM
Yea acura..i believe you were the one that got scammed as the PMs you posted and the fake number, the fony address, the lies about opening the package, the missing inner box, the neatly placed packing materials....But theres not realyl nething you can do other than paying Social a visit..local authorities wont do a thing.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 09:57 PM
SocialStealth has been in here reading every update thinking of what to reply with Lol. he ****edup should of atleast damaged the box a little LOL..

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:57 PM
BTW social.. where you at? gunna comment or maybe defend urself and try to prove me wrong?

tylork92
08-25-2009, 09:58 PM
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WOW..Social is reading but no comments...even more fishy.

skittlesRgood
08-25-2009, 09:58 PM
Why would he be mad if he got a free set of weights? Also, he stated when it arrived, he was at his friends house, and he didnt see the package yet. Then later, he said he opened it and then posted pictures.

there was a delay... he said "youll never guess what was in it..." then (maybe) he went to go find something to put in th box(weights), take pics, then came back to post them. why didnt he just say what was in the box? maybe cause he didnt know what he could have put in it.

oh, and both the noodles are on one side of the box in the pic, nothing supporting them on the other side. would have destroyed the box on that side.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 09:58 PM
He's in stealth mode LOL..

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 09:59 PM
social i got a question?

why would u scam me when u have good refs and 100% feedback on ebay?

i understand u coudl say oh i am perfect u r screwed but that isnt the case.

it is 350 dollars. either u pay me or ship the amp back undamaged... simple as that

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 10:01 PM
Because he has refs and you're new so he probably figured would be easy to scam you since forum would take his side over yours but he ****ed himself over with the pics.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:02 PM
this is rediculous dude take the proper steps. Do you have any physical evidence at all to show that you shipped the amp? Do you have any conversations besides this thread with him saved? without proof logic will not help you.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:02 PM
so exactly what do i do?

i have every PM saved and i have printed them out. also with the pics and times posted.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:04 PM
i have every PM between us saved.

what would u liek me to post up?

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 10:04 PM
take Screen shots of the PM's showing he gave you wrong address and phone number etc and post them up here..will help you a bit just shows him guilty imo

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:04 PM
Dude look up the address and get the residence phone number and call his house phone lol. There plenty of actions you can take besides e-yelling over this thread.

Like i said if he had the amp shipped to a friends house he's also liable now for contributing to a felony.

tylork92
08-25-2009, 10:07 PM
hell...post up the addy here so we can all give em a call...if its not him accessories to the crime should be called and bugged at all hours of the night too....lol.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:09 PM
thing is i looked up the address, it isnt a legit address.

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 10:10 PM
sry guys I left the computer with ca.com on it. :rolleyes:

And like I said, it was filled with peanuts amongst other packaging supplies, I took most of it out to get the pictures.

Would you take pictures of nothing but peanuts and post them :rolleyes:

And I'm not going to lie, I took the weights out and looked at them before I took the pics.

As for the technical theories of weight:
the weights say 10 lbs // 4.5 kg

4.5 kg = 4500 g = 9.9208018 pounds
And the 2nd box is in there :crazy:

the weights are 19.8416 lbs + packaging.
I don't have a scale but I must say it was probably 20.5 lbs in total.
The numbers there prove i'm lying you win!

On another note, when I ship items using internet postage, they ask me how much the package weighs and they put that on the label. As I mentioned, I don't have a scale...so I guess with it :crap:

skittlesRgood
08-25-2009, 10:13 PM
sorry bro but i have to say it.

OP was banned from selling on SMD. when asked why, he seemed pretty touchy about it. didnt answer why. im still on the OP's side but less so now.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:15 PM
thing is i looked up the address, it isnt a legit address.

how do you know its not legit? Post up the addy again and his name. Post the phone number he gave you also.

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 10:18 PM
THis asshat is still lurking,sitting back laughing-knowing he got over. He seems to think that he is getting away with something now but there are plenty of law enforcement agencies that are taking internet crime seriously. Loud- get all your **** together(every PM,the bogus contact number, the bogus address, the pictures of the items he claims he received, anyhting that would help support your case) the more evidence you have the better. There is a certain monetary amount that must be "stolen" before they can consider it a crime. I am pretty sure that threshold has been reached in this case.

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:20 PM
OP, post up the address.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:24 PM
ok sorry my comp is havin a slwo time loading this site.

how would u kno the wights if u didnt have a scale?

get a scale then u might back up ur story a bit.

the number he sent me was 856-685-8592 a lady will answer trying to sale cell phones.....

Address was 24 Oak Ct.
Berlin NJ

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 10:25 PM
thing is i looked up the address, it isnt a legit address.

I leave ca.com on all day :fyi: it shows I'm here, though I'm not physically AT my computer.

And if its a bogus address, then I wouldn't have received a package...?

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 10:25 PM
Thats funy hes claiming he left the computer yet I seen him refreshing the thread in his profile because the time stamp kept updating LOL more fishy now!

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:28 PM
one of you is lying. Op you have shown no proof at all man sorry to say it but you gotta provide evidence, i dont understand your thinking at all. And threw 10 + pages you haven't posted any pms pictures or any real physical proof.

Social any other person on this forum would have probably still posted a thread it if they had gotten just a set of weights instead of a amp man. Regardless if your out money or not, common sense thing to do woulda been to post a thread warning others not to deal with this guy, and you laid back mentailty is either because you are hiding something or you dont give a ****. But i think if you had gotten weights you woulda given a ****.

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:28 PM
That address shows up as a legit one, on Google Maps.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=24+Oak+Ct.+Berlin+NJ&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=34.259599,86.572266&ie=UTF8&ll=39.802272,-74.92135&spn=0.008111,0.021136&z=16&iwloc=A

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:34 PM
Can you explain the fake number Social?


Loud What was the name the packed was shipped to?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:34 PM
not on yellowbook.com

squeak9798
08-25-2009, 10:34 PM
As for the technical theories of weight:
the weights say 10 lbs // 4.5 kg

4.5 kg = 4500 g = 9.9208018 pounds
And the 2nd box is in there :crazy:

the weights are 19.8416 lbs + packaging.
I don't have a scale but I must say it was probably 20.5 lbs in total.
The numbers there prove i'm lying you win!

On another note, when I ship items using internet postage, they ask me how much the package weighs and they put that on the label. As I mentioned, I don't have a scale...so I guess with it :crap:
what???

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:35 PM
i am waiting on the messages to load.

it was liek Robert Wegrzyenkie

the last name was weird

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 10:35 PM
ok sorry my comp is havin a slwo time loading this site.

how would u kno the wights if u didnt have a scale?

get a scale then u might back up ur story a bit.

the number he sent me was 856-685-8592 a lady will answer trying to sale cell phones.....

Address was 24 Oak Ct.
Berlin NJ

please don't try share my personal information...

And as I said earlier, I wasn't home to open the package immediately.
when I finally opened the package this thread was already here, so I jumped in on it.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 10:37 PM
LOl it took him a hour but hes finally got lil bit of remarks to try to defend himself..

bigdaddy1986
08-25-2009, 10:37 PM
not on yellowbook.com

Cell phones dont show up on yellowbook

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:38 PM
sharing ur personal info?
in wat part of that is that "yours"

u a lady?
Robert is a **** **** name for a lady!

BTW stop tryin to cover up ur ****.

why dont u just admit to wrongdoing.

i will call ur local offices and i will have u prosecuted or whoever was in on it with u.

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:40 PM
not on yellowbook.com

Yellowbook is for businesses. And the addresses are manually added. So if Social didnt add his address on there, it wont be on there.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:41 PM
SocialStealth SocialStealth is online now
CarAudio.com Elite

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 613
Re: hey

Quote:
Originally Posted by loudacuratl
Quote:
Originally Posted by SocialStealth
Quote:
Originally Posted by loudacuratl
Quote:
Originally Posted by SocialStealth
Quote:
Originally Posted by SocialStealth
Robert Wegrzyniak
24 oak ct.
West Berlin, NJ 08091

530 shipped
shipped yet?

you are going to have t give me a day or two. i gotta round up some more money.. i can ship one thing then ship the other asap.... if u want to do that
Alright what evers good for you. Sorry I'm rushing you but I sold my old kicker subs/amp and I'm waitin for these I'm going through bass withdraw. Take your time though srry.

its all good man haha. i understand wat its like!

i packaged good and used pool noodles(lol) great for packing!!

i will try to ship asap!
Ha, I see you've read the post on how to package heavy items

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:41 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^ now that is his address and full name

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:42 PM
sharing ur personal info?
in wat part of that is that "yours"

u a lady?
Robert is a **** **** name for a lady!

BTW stop tryin to cover up ur ****.

why dont u just admit to wrongdoing.

i will call ur local offices and i will have u prosecuted or whoever was in on it with u.


The only way you will get him prosecuted if you have real evidence, pictures, etc. The PMs wont stand up in court.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:44 PM
so i got one quesion though....

if i INSURED it through FedEx and "didn't arrive as shipped" what happens? dont i get covered?

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 10:47 PM
sharing ur personal info?
in wat part of that is that "yours"

u a lady?
Robert is a **** **** name for a lady!

BTW stop tryin to cover up ur ****.

why dont u just admit to wrongdoing.

i will call ur local offices and i will have u prosecuted or whoever was in on it with u.

...

this is a bad troll.
Is there a way to have loud banned?
I could just as easily make a new account and engage in a deal with someone and accuse them of scamming me. This is ludicrous

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:48 PM
a bad troll? now u r making jokes outta this?

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:48 PM
so i got one quesion though....

if i INSURED it through FedEx and "didn't arrive as shipped" what happens? dont i get covered?

not unless they packed it for you and saw that there was a amp in the box before hand, or you have pictures with the exact time and date then no your **** outta luck with fedex.

tapout
08-25-2009, 10:50 PM
so i got one quesion though....

if i INSURED it through FedEx and "didn't arrive as shipped" what happens? dont i get covered?
no, nothing. You dont have a leg to stand on. Ruining his rep is the best you can do.

not unless they packed it for you and saw that there was a amp in the box before hand, or you have pictures with the exact time and date then no your **** outta luck with fedex.

doesnt matter unless fedex was there to open it as well.

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:51 PM
not unless they packed it for you and saw that there was a amp in the box before hand, or you have pictures with the exact time and date then no your **** outta luck with fedex.

Then what the hell is insurance for?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:51 PM
they have a security camera right above the desk.

and they say if the item isnt securely placed then u cant ship.

BTW anyone realize that it would take a **** ton of packing to hole 2 weights in there SECURELY AND BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN PERFECT POSITION??

btw if there were peanuts there would have been little specs of foam everywhere from teh shipping cluttering with the weights against foam....

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:51 PM
and yeah i agree.... insurance?? they dont hold ur hand. they tape up and ship and recieve the payment TO ship...

tapout
08-25-2009, 10:54 PM
they have a security camera right above the desk.

and they say if the item isnt securely placed then u cant ship.

BTW anyone realize that it would take a **** ton of packing to hole 2 weights in there SECURELY AND BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN PERFECT POSITION??

btw if there were peanuts there would have been little specs of foam everywhere from teh shipping cluttering with the weights against foam....

YOU CANT PROVE IT WASNT IN THERE WHEN IT ARRIVED. FEDEX ISNT JUST GONNA BELEIVE YOU. HELL THEY MAY HAVE YOU ARRESTED YOU THINKING YOU ARE LYING AND TRYING TO COMMIT FRAUD.

yeah, I yelled all that.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 10:54 PM
Then what the hell is insurance for?

to make you feel better about handing your valuables to a mofo who could give a **** about a 300+ dollar amp because you make his day harder by shipping subs and amps and batteries i guess.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:55 PM
and i listened.

if they arrest me then **** i will get all teh proof.
hell i will et the judge log onto my **** account to read everythign if need be

power-fanatic07
08-25-2009, 10:55 PM
Stop crying and just take it as a loss. I admit I would be highly pissed, but there is nothing you can do.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:56 PM
im not taking it as a loss.
i have been scammed two straight deals in a row. total loss of aorund 700 dollars.


what would u do?

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 10:56 PM
to make you feel better about handing your valuables to a mofo who could give a **** about a 300+ dollar amp because you make his day harder by shipping subs and amps and batteries i guess.

Or for when there isnt a scam going down, and both parties are legit, and the person that receives the item proves it was damaged.

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 10:56 PM
im not taking it as a loss.
i have been scammed two straight deals in a row. total loss of aorund 700 dollars.


what would u do?

Stop doing deals with people on CA.com :rolleyes:

tapout
08-25-2009, 10:57 PM
and i listened.

if they arrest me then **** i will get all teh proof.
hell i will et the judge log onto my **** account to read everythign if need be
http://crunktimes.com/ct/images/smilies/1180993442620rk0.gif

Stop crying and just take it as a loss. I admit I would be highly pissed, but there is nothing you can do.

this

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 10:58 PM
no i am not quitters liek whoever thinks it is oh hey he is scum lets let him walk..

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 10:58 PM
and i listened.

if they arrest me then **** i will get all teh proof.
hell i will et the judge log onto my **** account to read everythign if need be

And they will see a picture of 2 weights in a box surrounded by packing peanuts.

tapout
08-25-2009, 10:59 PM
no i am not quitters liek whoever thinks it is oh hey he is scum lets let him walk..

go get'em tiger.

perfecxionX
08-25-2009, 10:59 PM
i believe op was scammed, but socialstealth was definitely not a well-established enough member to ship first to

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:01 PM
...

this is a bad troll.
Is there a way to have loud banned?
I could just as easily make a new account and engage in a deal with someone and accuse them of scamming me. This is ludicrous


why do u want me banned??
u dont want me to prove that u did in fact scam me?

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 11:01 PM
no i am not quitters liek whoever thinks it is oh hey he is scum lets let him walk..

Then quit your e-bitching and go put a cap in his ***

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Or for when there isnt a scam going down, and both parties are legit, and the person that receives the item proves it was damaged.

Though that is the concept of it, it hardly seems to work that way for the customer though. Regardless of it being fed-ex,ups, or usps fault.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:03 PM
i am calling his local authiorites with all teh information.

i will get back to u guys soon

mazdakid
08-25-2009, 11:03 PM
$530 shipped for the 1500d?

528hz
08-25-2009, 11:04 PM
i believe op was scammed, but socialstealth was definitely not a well-established enough member to ship first to

I'm going to go ahead and side with X as an honorary juror on this one too.


I read this whole thread, and just by judging the words typed by each culprit, I believe the OP is the one getting the shorter end...

My two cents...

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:04 PM
no 530 shipped for a saz1500 and a sa-12

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:05 PM
i agree thoroughly.... i shouldnt have shipped first but i needed the money bad and he did agree to pay once i shipped.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:06 PM
SocialStealth just took advantage of how new he was and how many refs social had himself so he figured would be a easy scam and everyone would take his side. Still dont understand how the box has no damage what so ever or even crushed peanuts inside the box. Maybe he picked them all out and just left the good peanuts in there lol..

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:07 PM
crushed peanuts is a crucial evidence point

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:07 PM
I'm going to go ahead and side with X as an honorary juror on this one too.


I read this whole thread, and just by judging the words typed by each culprit, I believe the OP is the one getting the shorter end...

My two cents...

I agree as well...... the OP is pretty frantic with his messages...where as Stealth is kinda laid back, almost like getting a set of weights is a common thing.... hmmmmmm

Usually scammers will back off and let it cool down, but not this guy.... :laugh:

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:08 PM
Then inside that box were 2 10 lb weights :laugh:
Packaged EXTREMELY well.
He obviously has seen the 'how to package heavy items' thread, because he utilized the pool-styrofoam noodle packaging technique, as well as a crapload of foam peanuts

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l39/SocialStealth/b-1.jpg

I mean come on? not 1 crushed peanut? or dent in the freakin box? Lets be real here

iamamp3pimp
08-25-2009, 11:08 PM
idk man, ive seen the weights be way off from Fedex, I recieved a pair of RE MT's a few years back, and one weighed in at 69 pounds, and the other was 77 pounds (and cost a pretty peny more to ship i might add)

Removing anything from the box was a bad idea....I always video taping up te box, and opening shipments (unless its from soneone that i know) just in case any **** pops up.

my opinion on who is guilty really doesnt matter, so ill keep it to myself.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:08 PM
im one persistant MOFO.

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:09 PM
Tell us the details of the whole trade transaction that was supposed to happen here loud! might make more sense

iamamp3pimp
08-25-2009, 11:09 PM
i agree thoroughly.... i shouldnt have shipped first but i needed the money bad and he did agree to pay once i shipped.

what about the comment where h ementioned that you told him to send 200 bucks because you really needed the money?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:10 PM
no trade involved.

brb gunna go call his local authorities.

mazdakid
08-25-2009, 11:10 PM
it was well packaged, he said he took the weights out before he took pics.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:10 PM
what about the comment where h ementioned that you told him to send 200 bucks because you really needed the money?

that was because i was tryin to buy a xbox 360 so i could haev a madden party with a few buddies before school started up

tapout
08-25-2009, 11:10 PM
crushed peanuts is a crucial evidence point
lol

I agree as well...... the OP is pretty frantic with his messages...where as Stealth is kinda laid back, almost like getting a set of weights is a common thing.... hmmmmmm

Usually scammers will back off and let it cool down, but not this guy.... :laugh:

agreed, If Social didnt send money before the amp(weights) arrived, OP woulda just hauled *** and not returned if he was indeed scamming.

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:11 PM
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idk?

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:12 PM
it was well packaged, he said he took the weights out before he took pics.

Ok who unpackages the weights? He HAD to know he was going to ask for his money so who wouldn't take pics of it packaged up. I mean its not like he openeded it and still thought the amp was in there lol thats IF the weights were really packaged. Social just failed at scamming.

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 11:12 PM
SocialStealth just took advantage of how new he was and how many refs social had himself so he figured would be a easy scam and everyone would take his side. Still dont understand how the box has no damage what so ever or even crushed peanuts inside the box. Maybe he picked them all out and just left the good peanuts in there lol..

like I admitted, I took the weights out and put them back for the pictures :crap:
honestly I find this funny. It really is quite a good idea, the scam. sending a package with tracking, verifying the weight. If he didn't seem so eager to receive the money before the package arrived, I would have fallen for it. any locals can feel free to check out my system and notice the lack of 1500 SAZ's or 3000 SAZ's in it.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:14 PM
that doesnt mean they cant search ur house.

i stand by my word 100% that i didn ship an amp.

u take a very long time to reply(thinkin of something to figure to say to attempt to defend yourself????)

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:16 PM
that doesnt mean they cant search ur house.

i stand by my word 100% that i didn ship an amp.

u take a very long time to reply(thinkin of something to figure to say to attempt to defend yourself????)

what?

perfecxionX
08-25-2009, 11:16 PM
lol @ typo

Digital Designs
08-25-2009, 11:16 PM
that doesnt mean they cant search ur house.

i stand by my word 100% that i didn ship an amp.

u take a very long time to reply(thinkin of something to figure to say to attempt to defend yourself????)

Is that a confession?

basebalz13
08-25-2009, 11:17 PM
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Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:18 PM
that doesnt mean they cant search ur house.

i stand by my word 100% that i didn ship an amp.

u take a very long time to reply(thinkin of something to figure to say to attempt to defend yourself????)

:crap:

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08-25-2009, 11:19 PM
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idk?

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426597

SocialStealth
08-25-2009, 11:19 PM
that doesnt mean they cant search ur house.

i stand by my word 100% that i didn ship an amp.

u take a very long time to reply(thinkin of something to figure to say to attempt to defend yourself????)

no, just have a slow computer :rolleyes:

i stand by my word 100% as well ? that in the boxs i received two 10 lb weights.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:20 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426597

Not looking good for socialstealth hes not very stealth lol

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:20 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426597

ho snaps

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:21 PM
no, just have a slow computer :rolleyes:

i stand by my word 100% as well ? that in the boxs i received two 10 lb weights.

what about the other guy you scammed?

twistedchild420
08-25-2009, 11:21 PM
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PIITB Wut Wut
08-25-2009, 11:21 PM
Social is a scammer ban that ***... ****in damming others Unser dragonwire.

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:21 PM
James R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

Joan R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

No one found by the name Robert.. so call and see whats up

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:22 PM
Social is a scammer ban that ***... ****in damming others Unser dragonwire.

***** ** ********** *********** **** **** ******

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:22 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=426597

Now thats interesting.... he scammed someone else as well under his other name..... :furious:

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:22 PM
no that was a typo.

have u not seen all the typos i have had?

i am typing quickly because i am pissed

here to buy
08-25-2009, 11:23 PM
what a thread!!!!

I'm on loudacura's side as well,

loudacura, if thats his real name, robert werdzinger or whatever, you could always register a domain name, robertwerdzingerisascammer.com!!!

I'll have it hosted on my server if you want.

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:24 PM
James R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

Joan R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

No one found by the name Robert.. so call and see whats up

call home and ask for mom and dad?

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:24 PM
what a thread!!!!

I'm on loudacura's side as well,

loudacura, if thats his real name, robert werdzinger or whatever, you could always register a domain name, robertwerdzingerisascammer.com!!!

I'll have it hosted on my server if you want.

LOL............ OWNED

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:25 PM
what a thread!!!!

I'm on loudacura's side as well,

loudacura, if thats his real name, robert werdzinger or whatever, you could always register a domain name, robertwerdzingerisascammer.com!!!

I'll have it hosted on my server if you want.

I am going with loudacura atm aswell.. story seems to fit a little better.. social you woulda realized it wasn't an amp by having things shift in there..

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:25 PM
James R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

Joan R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

No one found by the name Robert.. so call and see whats up

lol Those r his parents guys

tr10av
08-25-2009, 11:26 PM
Call the cops what are you doing *****ing on an internet forum? Get out there and do something.

bhsdriller
08-25-2009, 11:27 PM
Fvck this thread blew up since 1:30 or so lol

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:27 PM
lol Those r his parents guys

I assume so.. I would personally go for mom.. the numbers are the same just ask for joan.. call all day and night if needed...

DON'T HARASS!! last thing you need is to turn the only people able to help against you.. politely talk to them and ask if their son asked for an amp.. you harass they will change numbers or call the cops and you will be SOL

tapout
08-25-2009, 11:28 PM
Mom and dad would probably like to know their son is a scamming POS.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:28 PM
James R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

Joan R Wegrzyniak
24 Oak Ct
West Berlin, NJ 08091
(856) 768-2523

No one found by the name Robert.. so call and see whats up

i will have to call tommrowo.
i have spoken with my prosecuting attorney. not looking good for him

perfecxionX
08-25-2009, 11:29 PM
loud if you really did get scammed your best chance is to call james or joan and ask if they have a son robert, and if so let them know hes scamming people on the internet

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:29 PM
Looks like socialstealth dont leave his computer on anymore like he said that foo took off

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 11:31 PM
Guess its past socials bedtime.........he is gone!!! Phone call time....

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:31 PM
The **** has hit the fan... We now have names and comfired address. Hope this Robert character is atleast 18, if not i feel wrose for his parents if the OP takes legal action.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:32 PM
just called that guy.

his mom answered and he tried to hang up.

he said he will pay me now

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:32 PM
LOL foreals

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
just called.

mom was pissed!!!!

he sounded liek under 18 haha. he said he will pay.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
yep! i said if i dont get teh money i am calling the prosecutor

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
You should subscribe to things on the net and leave his name and number as contacts.....(mortgage brokers, insurance quotes etc.)

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
loud if you really did get scammed your best chance is to call james or joan and ask if they have a son robert, and if so let them know hes scamming people on the internet

this.. but don't mention it until they say he recieved the amp.. you need to record it some how..

this is how it should go down.. Call if a female picks up you are in business right away..

if not ask for james or joan and if they ask say its a legal issue regarding Robert

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:33 PM
Hahahaha Thread Was Worth The Read!

tc3k101
08-25-2009, 11:34 PM
just called that guy.

his mom answered and he tried to hang up.

he said he will pay me now



hahahah pwnt

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:34 PM
just called.

mom was pissed!!!!

he sounded liek under 18 haha. he said he will pay.

lol this is too funny please make a vid and call them back and tell her to get on his computer and read this ****.

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:34 PM
just called that guy.

his mom answered and he tried to hang up.

he said he will pay me now

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:: laugh:

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:34 PM
yep! i said if i dont get teh money i am calling the prosecutor

i take a 20% detectives fee lol!! j/k.. I hope it works out.. Scammers **** this place up making it hard for the real peeps

Forsaken_Enemy
08-25-2009, 11:35 PM
This has been one of the top 10 threads of the year.... the ending made it epic!!!!

Keep his info just in case he does it again!!!

CrispedUp
08-25-2009, 11:35 PM
Just called. Sounded like a young kid.

grimreper912003
08-25-2009, 11:36 PM
Sweet, 3 twisted's were viewing ......btw....
http://i735.photobucket.com/albums/ww357/bertiewhang01/This_Thread_Delivers_-_UPS_Babe.jpg

Anyone else see the PE box??


Im glad things are working out. Mad props for calling his mom. Lawlerskates.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:37 PM
Cant wait to see wat stealth says about this LOL "sorry"

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:38 PM
welcome guys lol.

i dont c why he is so stupid

haha mom seemed pissed.

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:39 PM
welcome guys lol.

i dont c why he is so stupid

haha mom seemed pissed.

probably because its 11:30 too!! lol

jadon087
08-25-2009, 11:39 PM
you need to talk to the mother to assure she knows what he has done and how much he owes you, for all you know he's sitting there lying his thorugh his teeth. Trust me i used to do it alot to my mom and it works.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:40 PM
he simply sent me the word

"sry" hahahahahahhahah

BAN THIS DUDES ***

528hz
08-25-2009, 11:40 PM
:pullover::dont::nutskick::toast::handclap:

99grandprixGT
08-25-2009, 11:40 PM
Anyone else see the PE box??


Im glad things are working out. Mad props for calling his mom. Lawlerskates.

i dont see no boxes in that picture. but ya this thread is full of fail.

squeak9798
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
Anyone else see the PE box??


Im glad things are working out. Mad props for calling his mom. Lawlerskates.

I noticed that at the same time as the woman.

Goindef154
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
post tracking number. It will show weight. Who know the weight of a 1500?

Just shipped mine yesterday wrapped in bubble wrap and had extra bubble wrap inside, pretty secure and it weighed in, rounded up, at 17lbs.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
he simply sent me the word

"sry" hahahahahahhahah

BAN THIS DUDES ***

wait till you get your money LOL dont get ahead of yourself haha

dadon
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
So what did mom say? Did you speak to mom or dad or did you talk to the scammer himself. F*ck him at this point, lets here some belts snapping!!!! HAHA

x1le
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
you need to talk to the mother to assure she knows what he has done and how much he owes you, for all you know he's sitting there lying his thorugh his teeth. Trust me i used to do it alot to my mom and it works.

x2. even if he agree's to pay you, I would still let both of this spoiled brat's parents know the entire situation and the b.s. he tryed to pull.

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
fail by him.. not by me

dlothcebelyk
08-25-2009, 11:41 PM
you need to talk to the mother to assure she knows what he has done and how much he owes you, for all you know he's sitting there lying his thorugh his teeth. Trust me i used to do it alot to my mom and it works.

this.. Be very nice though..

hi ma'am.. sorry for calling so late etc etc.. the better you are and more professional you sound the better it will be for you.. tell her exactly went down.

bhsdriller
08-25-2009, 11:43 PM
Everybody call!

99grandprixGT
08-25-2009, 11:43 PM
ay ***** ur son scammed me azz and if he don pay up i goin send my boyz to **** him up. thanks and sweet dreams.

dadon
08-25-2009, 11:44 PM
haha grandprix... hahaa...

99grandprixGT
08-25-2009, 11:46 PM
i could not read the whole thread with out 2 more pages adding on. i need to read quiker

tapout
08-25-2009, 11:46 PM
Just shipped mine yesterday wrapped in bubble wrap and had extra bubble wrap inside, pretty secure and it weighed in, rounded up, at 17lbs.

So Op's, in a bigger box would need more packaging, and would be ~20lbs.

Moot point, guy agreed he scammed and will pay.

mazdakid
08-25-2009, 11:47 PM
ok close this thread, both guys are good. right?

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:47 PM
called talked to his brother. very cool dude!
he is under 18 BTW. his parents and brohte all apologized to me.

why doesnt someone ban this I.P address????

dadon
08-25-2009, 11:47 PM
I would have to **** dude up, and I would tell mom about the other post as well. Let me hit up ace and let him know we found the scammers information!

kfx450r
08-25-2009, 11:48 PM
Lmao wow, i dont think social will ever show his face here again. How PATHETIC trying to pull a reverse scam, what a douchebag.

99grandprixGT
08-25-2009, 11:49 PM
well just cuz they talking to you, lets hope they make him go through and pay u. mabye they in on it

tapout
08-25-2009, 11:49 PM
called talked to his brother. very cool dude!
he is under 18 BTW. his parents and brohte all apologized to me.

why doesnt someone ban this I.P address????

shut the hell up. Action will be taken when this gets resolved.

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:49 PM
i want social to post in here for the win lmao

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:50 PM
he is apologizing haha.
thanks BTW to who got his information!

bhsdriller
08-25-2009, 11:50 PM
that fools plan backfired big time, douchebag

loudacuratl
08-25-2009, 11:50 PM
lol. he wont.


it is already solved. he payed for it.

the dude keeps sayin he learned his lesson to haha

mrteacha
08-25-2009, 11:51 PM
okay so he admitted to trying to scam but you are still out on the amp or money.. Whose to say he wont tell his parents he will fix situation and end up sending back the box with the 2 weights?

grimreper912003
08-25-2009, 11:51 PM
Are you getting money or an amp?

GetLikeMe
08-25-2009, 11:52 PM
he paypaled u the money?

mrjoeyjiffy
08-25-2009, 11:52 PM
SO he now paid for it!? More details the better plz.

kfx450r
08-25-2009, 11:52 PM
lol. he wont.


it is already solved. he payed for it.

the dude keeps sayin he learned his lesson to haha

read people jesus