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stevexyz
08-18-2009, 10:53 PM
RESOLVED (see update below). but parker is still a lousy seller in my book.

i thought calling parker a scammer in my first complaint thread was a mistake. but as time passes by, the truth will be revealed.

SHORT VERSION (for those who don't want to read the entire thread):
i bought an amp from parker. he disappeared couple days after i paid. when he showed up a week later, saying he was busy, n' lied about shipping the amp. then 3 weeks later, i received a non-working amp. n' now he's disappeared again.

OK, here's the FULL VERSION:
1st, for those of you saying incident involved $80 or $65 or any small amount of money is not a scam, you are actually encouraging scammers to steal from good people here. 2nd, there are some cases here where good sellers did become scammers. n' 3rd, being patient sometimes wouldn't get you anywhere (see my story below):

here's the original for sale thread:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421307

here's my first complaint thread:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=425249

PART I (basically what's in my first complain thread):
i bought an amp from Parker G on July 24. i paid him via paypal right away. after the first couple days, he was like vanished for a week. then came back on Aug 4 saying (actully lying) that he already shipped out the amp to me and told me to be patient and wait for it. then he disappeared again. without any tracking info and no respond from him, i filed pp dispute on Aug 7.

seeing still no respond from him after another 3 days, i posted my first complaint thread about him here. he showed up the next day (Aug 11), saying that i wasn't being patient, showing the shipping receipt to everyone, proving that he indeed shipped out the amp to me. so i decided to shut up and wait for it.

the amp finally arrived on Aug 15, but POSTMARKED Aug 11. so actually he DID NOT ship out the amp until 18days after i paid for it (4 days after i filed the pp dispute), the same day he showed up again to defend himself. for those of you who have been defending parker here, saying i jumped the gun too early, saying i shouldn't file the dispute, saying usps regular post takes a long time, telling me to be patient and wait, what do you have to say now? he lied about shipping the amp to me in the beginning. do you think he would even ship out the amp if i kept being patient, just sit there n' wait, without taking any action at all?

PART II:
i tested the amp right after i received it, but it could not even turn on. it didn't even have any load or input yet. and all settings were at the lowest (proper way to begin testing an amp). before any of you try to tell me to check the wiring, i'm not a newbie, n' i have tested lots of amps on my own. i always triple check wiring setup to be safe before i power up anything. i checked it again (also checked the fuse) after i couldn't get it to turn on. both wiring and fuse were good, but still couldn't turn on. then i tried it with input and load, but still no luck.

so i opened up the case to look for clues. i found two blown diodes and one possible burned mark. i'm sure i didn't burn them myself (no smoke no smell no heat no nothing), and any professional should be able to tell those diodes was blown long time ago. they were even covered by little dusts already, just as the rest of the board. so i didn't have to look any further. i'm sure the amp was DOA.

i called parker right away (he gave me his cell# on the day he came to show the receipt). he returned my call quite quickly this time. he said he tested the amp before shipping it out, and asked me to show him the blown diodes. i told him i'd send some pix to him, n' i'd call him right after that. he said ok. so i took some pix and emailed them to him immediately. when i called him again, some gal answered the phone saying he was in the shower. i said fine, just tell parker to check his email n' call me back. but he never called again.

that was last saturday (Aug 15). i've been trying to call him everyday since then, but he never answered. i left him several voice mails, but he never returned my calls either.

i believe he actually did pick up the phone once when i called his home # yesterday (Aug 17), but the guy on the phone said he's not parker, altho i'm pretty sure they have the same voice, but since he denied it so i just told him to tell parker to call me back. then again, no return call at all.

HERE'S MY THOUGHTS (not necessary the truth):
parker MIGHT be a pretty smart scammer -
1) he used his gf's pp account (with 0 verified buyer) for this transaction. if anything happened to that account, he could just dump it.
2) he held the amp for more than two weeks after i paid for it, n' didn't respond to me during that time, leaving me no choice but to file a non-receipt dispute.
3) then he shipped out the non-working amp after i filed the dispute so that he could prove it to paypal. so if i escalate the dispute to a claim, i'd probably lose because he's got proof of delivery. n' i can't file another claim for receiving a non functional item because it's the same transaction.
4) another smart move is that he insured the package for more than $200. he might actually wish the package to get lost in the mail so that he could claim the insurance. either way, he'd get money for his non-working amp.
5) $80 or $65 is not big money. some people here might come and say: nobody is gona put so much effort (actually he didn't really have to do much) to scam you for such a small amount of money. so this might actually make him look clean.
6) he has pretty good reputation here, at least until now. some people here do trust him, n' that's also why i trusted him in the first place.

NOW, i don't want to endlessly keep waiting for parker to call me back anymore. you can say that i jump the gun too early again. but based on my previous experience with him (i tried pm, email, even paypal dispute before, n' now phone calls n' voicemails, still couldn't get him to respond. but whenever i posted something like this, he'd jump in to defend himself the very next day), so i believe this is the only way to bring him up to talk again, if he ever would.

n' i believe there are always two sides of a story. i'd like to hear what parker has to say about this (altho i'm pretty sure he's gona give the same lame excuse of being too busy, or maybe even blaming me for blowing the amp). now, PLEASE, parker, come and tell everyone your side of the story.

UPDATE 8/22/09:

just received notice from paypal: parker has finally issued a refund to me (maybe after all these pressure i put on him). but he still refused to communicate with me. he just posted one last msg in the dispute, calling me a "shady buyer" n' saying he's "out the amp and shipping costs".

i just don't know why and how i'm a shady buyer in this case. he's the one first lying about the shipping n' didn't actually ship out the amp to me until more than 2 weeks after i paid; he's the one lacked of communication throughout the whole transaction; he's the one shipped me the DOA amp n' refused to work with me on the problem. n' he won't be out an amp for sure, i'll ship it right back to him on Monday. so actually i'll be out the shipping cost in this case, at least one way back to him:rolleyes:

stevexyz
08-18-2009, 10:54 PM
postmarked Aug. 11:
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/postmarked.jpg

blown diodes:
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/750D/diode1.jpg
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/750D/diode2.jpg

possible burned mark:
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/750D/bmark.jpg

hornedfrog1985
08-18-2009, 10:58 PM
Are you gonna fight him? Not much you can do, better luck next time.

statonburrell2
08-18-2009, 10:59 PM
kimbo slice his ***

power-fanatic07
08-18-2009, 11:03 PM
hmm. that *****

stevexyz
08-18-2009, 11:04 PM
Are you gonna fight him?

i'll see how he's gona react to this thread first. i actually hope he'd come n' prove me wrong by either refunding or having the amp repaired for me.

hornedfrog1985
08-18-2009, 11:07 PM
Dude, you got scammed plain and simple. Cry it out, and get over it. Seriously you won't be able to do much. I've gotten burned on here too. Once in a while someone with a bunch of feedback whos been here for 3 years just decides to be a douche bag and cash in.

tapout
08-18-2009, 11:14 PM
werd. You got scammed. Sorry for your monetary loss but atleast now we know.

stevexyz
08-18-2009, 11:15 PM
Dude, you got scammed plain and simple. Cry it out, and get over it. Seriously you won't be able to do much. I've gotten burned on here too. Once in a while someone with a bunch of feedback whos been here for 3 years just decides to be a douche bag and cash in.

i know. there's not much i can do now except showing everyone what happened.

tapout
08-18-2009, 11:16 PM
We shall give him a week to rectify this before we bannish him to hell.

vitveet
08-19-2009, 12:19 AM
Good job with the original thread/post! Very well thoughtout and explained! I can tell you're a smart/good guy. Best of luck with the situation. Worst comes to worse, sell the amp for $30-$40 and you'll only be out $40 to $50.

stevexyz
08-19-2009, 12:37 AM
Good job with the original thread/post! Very well thoughtout and explained! I can tell you're a smart/good guy. Best of luck with the situation. Worst comes to worse, sell the amp for $30-$40 and you'll only be out $40 to $50.

thanks man. i'm waiting for a local guy to get me a quote for repairing this amp. if it's not too much, then i'd rather have it repaired and keep it myself. if parker wana prove himself not a scammer, then he'd better pay for the repair. otherwise i'll just eat this lost on my own.

hornedfrog1985
08-19-2009, 12:40 AM
Feels like someone punched you in the gut huh? I hate it. Hopeless, and empty feeling. There was someone on here that got taken for like 2 IA 20.1s, and some other stuff. That would really ****.

The guy that ripped me off was scamming people left and right, I bet he's made a new name on here. He's done it like 4 times. On one of the car modding forums he ripped off a couple of guys for like $2,000 a pop in parts.

Here is what I do pretty much any time before I buy:

Get a Mod to do an IP check.
See if he had bought the item off the forum previously.
Search the name.
Get pics with username/date (if they don't have time for pics then they must not really need to sell it I guess.)
Make sure they have sold plenty of stuff. Buying isn't the same ref to me as a selling ref.

stevexyz
08-19-2009, 12:47 AM
Feels like someone punched you in the gut huh? I hate it. Hopeless, and empty feeling. There was someone on here that got taken for like 2 IA 20.1s, and some other stuff. That would really ****.

The guy that ripped me off was scamming people left and right, I bet he's made a new name on here. He's done it like 4 times. On one of the car modding forums he ripped off a couple of guys for like $2,000 a pop in parts.

wow, that's a big time scammer for real. hate these scumbags. do they just make their living by scamming people?:crap:

vitveet
08-19-2009, 01:24 PM
Feels like someone punched you in the gut huh? I hate it. Hopeless, and empty feeling. There was someone on here that got taken for like 2 IA 20.1s, and some other stuff. That would really ****.

The guy that ripped me off was scamming people left and right, I bet he's made a new name on here. He's done it like 4 times. On one of the car modding forums he ripped off a couple of guys for like $2,000 a pop in parts.

Here is what I do pretty much any time before I buy:

Get a Mod to do an IP check.
See if he had bought the item off the forum previously.
Search the name.
Get pics with username/date (if they don't have time for pics then they must not really need to sell it I guess.)
Make sure they have sold plenty of stuff. Buying isn't the same ref to me as a selling ref.

Good info!


wow, that's a big time scammer for real. hate these scumbags. do they just make their living by scamming people?:crap:

...yeah, pretty much!!!

Just curious, but how was the amp packaged?!?!

V.

stevexyz
08-19-2009, 04:18 PM
Just curious, but how was the amp packaged?!?!

V.

the amp was not wrapped, but there were some foam inside the box sticking around the amp. altho it's not very good, but it's not too bad either. i would say just ok packing.

ciaonzo
08-21-2009, 08:46 PM
Sorry to hear it. It was a good write up, thanks for the info.

stevexyz
08-22-2009, 07:40 PM
UPDATE 8/22/09:

just received notice from paypal: parker has finally issued a refund to me (maybe after all these pressure i put on him). but he still refused to communicate with me. he just posted one last msg in the dispute, calling me a "shady buyer" n' saying he's "out the amp and shipping costs".

i just don't know why and how i'm a shady buyer in this case. he's the one first lying about the shipping n' didn't actually ship out the amp to me until more than 2 weeks after i paid; he's the one lacked of communication throughout the whole transaction; he's the one shipped me the DOA amp n' refused to work with me on the problem. n' he won't be out an amp for sure, i'll ship it right back to him on Monday. so actually i'll be out the shipping cost in this case, at least one way back to him:rolleyes:

Parker G
08-23-2009, 08:44 AM
UPDATE 8/22/09:

just received notice from paypal: parker has finally issued a refund to me (maybe after all these pressure i put on him). but he still refused to communicate with me. he just posted one last msg in the dispute, calling me a "shady buyer" n' saying he's "out the amp and shipping costs".

i just don't know why and how i'm a shady buyer in this case. he's the one first lying about the shipping n' didn't actually ship out the amp to me until more than 2 weeks after i paid; he's the one lacked of communication throughout the whole transaction; he's the one shipped me the DOA amp n' refused to work with me on the problem. n' he won't be out an amp for sure, i'll ship it right back to him on Monday. so actually i'll be out the shipping cost in this case, at least one way back to him:rolleyes:


Alright steve I'm really tired of dealing with you already.....

1. Can you please provide any info on when I supposedly said When I shipped off your amp? I never ever gave you a date.

2.You are a shady buyer! I tested that amp on 4 D2 subs wired to 1 ohm and it worked fine. Then you call trying to say that it was blown and that it looked like it had been blown for a long time? Yeah I laughed too.
I knew I should've cancelled shipment when you starting being a problem to begin with.... I woulda gladly offered and did offer you a full refund.

For all I know you already had one of these amps.. Blew it.. Then bought mine and now your trying to make some money off me saying the amp you bought off me is blown. When All I do is try to help others out whenever I can.

You can keep your money and that blown amp.

But you just fuct anyone else from buying anything off me on this forum. I will never do any business on here ever again.

stevexyz
08-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Alright steve I'm really tired of dealing with you already.....



have you ever dealt with me properly at all?


1. Can you please provide any info on when I supposedly said When I shipped off your amp? I never ever gave you a date.



right, you were just being misleading because you never gave me a specific date on the shipping. but when you replied my pm on Aug. 4, you did confirm about the shipping already. here's the screen shot of your reply:
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/750D/reply.jpg

n' you just told me to wait it out on your original for sale thread on that same day. so that was a lie.


2.You are a shady buyer! I tested that amp on 4 D2 subs wired to 1 ohm and it worked fine. Then you call trying to say that it was blown and that it looked like it had been blown for a long time? Yeah I laughed too.



who knows when you tested your amp, if you ever did.


I knew I should've cancelled shipment when you starting being a problem to begin with.... I woulda gladly offered and did offer you a full refund.

who started being a problem? the seller who lacked of communication, lied about the shipping, n' didn't actually ship out the amp after he get paid for more than 2 weeks later, or the buyer who just got worried and upset because he's been waiting for such a long time without respond from the seller?


For all I know you already had one of these amps.. Blew it.. Then bought mine and now your trying to make some money off me saying the amp you bought off me is blown. When All I do is try to help others out whenever I can.

i never even had a hifonic amp in my life before. i'll ship the amp back to you, you can check and see for yourself whether it's your own amp or not. you should remember all the marks and scratches, so you should be able to tell.


You can keep your money and that blown amp.

no matter you want it back or not, it's going back to you. after you verify that it's your own amp, if you could refund me the shipping charge i paid for it to get back to you, then i'd say you are still trying to be a stand up guy.


But you just fuct anyone else from buying anything off me on this forum. I will never do any business on here ever again.

nobody ever f***ed up your reputation, it's actually something that only you can get it f***ed up yourself. you gotta learn to take responsibility for your own action.

adrian1185
08-27-2009, 01:26 AM
have you ever dealt with me properly at all?



right, you were just being misleading because you never gave me a specific date on the shipping. but when you replied my pm on Aug. 4, you did confirm about the shipping already. here's the screen shot of your reply:
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo262/stevexyz/750D/reply.jpg

n' you just told me to wait it out on your original for sale thread on that same day. so that was a lie.



who knows when you tested your amp, if you ever did.



who started being a problem? the seller who lacked of communication, lied about the shipping, n' didn't actually ship out the amp after he get paid for more than 2 weeks later, or the buyer who just got worried and upset because he's been waiting for such a long time without respond from the seller?



i never even had a hifonic amp in my life before. i'll ship the amp back to you, you can check and see for yourself whether it's your own amp or not. you should remember all the marks and scratches, so you should be able to tell.



no matter you want it back or not, it's going back to you. after you verify that it's your own amp, if you could refund me the shipping charge i paid for it to get back to you, then i'd say you are still trying to be a stand up guy.



nobody ever f***ed up your reputation, it's actually something that only you can get it f***ed up yourself. you gotta learn to take responsibility for your own action.

D4MN!!!!! Ive been following this from day one. Ole dude was pretty shady. Glad you got your money back bro. Thats a pretty fvcked up situation to be in.

ace23
08-27-2009, 01:47 AM
mad props to you steve for giving us all the angles on this some people do jump the gun too soon but dont provide all the info on their situation but seems to me you were paitent long enough and tried to be reasonable with the guy sorry bout this situation your in