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KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:01 PM
ok so I have purchased to different adhesives for the vinyl and neither worked.. I am trying to bond it to wood.. Any one have any advice.. Also i can't use staples the wood is too thin..

boomintahoe
08-11-2009, 11:06 PM
Thats the problem. I believe staples help hold the vinyl in place along with glue. That material is difficult to work with.

dappa5
08-11-2009, 11:08 PM
what kind of glue you using??
and i apply headliner first then vinyl give it a nice finish no blemishes shining through
but i use glue i buy in 5 gal jugs i can look at it to morrow
and yes finish staples @ edges

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:11 PM
what kind of glue you using??
and i apply headliner first then vinyl give it a nice finish no blemishes shining through
but i use glue i buy in 5 gal jugs i can look at it to morrow
and yes finish staples @ edges

first i tried.. multipurpose fabric adhesive.. spray can.. worked but the next morning in the heat it was loose..

then I bought some stuff that is called tear mender from joanns.. lady said it would work.. not working at all..

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:12 PM
Thats the problem. I believe staples help hold the vinyl in place along with glue. That material is difficult to work with.

ya staples would be heaven for the back

dappa5
08-11-2009, 11:13 PM
yea i stretch everything to rear or bottom and staple

dappa5
08-11-2009, 11:14 PM
do not actualy glue vinyl just glue headliner underneath

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:14 PM
yea i stretch everything to rear or bottom and staple

thing is i am using like 1/8 in thick wood..

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:15 PM
do not actualy glue vinyl just glue headliner underneath

i am not gluing the vinyl there is a backing behind it.. i am trying to glue that to the wood..

dappa5
08-11-2009, 11:18 PM
i kno what you mean i just do not glue that
i stretch it

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:19 PM
i kno what you mean i just do not glue that
i stretch it

i did.. I laid glue on the wood and stretched it to around back and clamped it for a while to let glue dry.. it worked yesterday til the heat took it

galacticmonkey
08-11-2009, 11:30 PM
You giving the glue a minute or so to release the air bubbles before you pull the vinyl over it?

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:32 PM
You giving the glue a minute or so to release the air bubbles before you pull the vinyl over it?

ya.. I lay it down spread it out and the pull.. I have soo much Extra i am going to do it again some other time.. I will put some carpet(thin) to make it "softer" to the look too

Eddie Havok
08-11-2009, 11:35 PM
Contact cement is what ive always used.

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:37 PM
Contact cement is what ive always used.

how does that dry? smooth?

marcotheclepto
08-11-2009, 11:39 PM
superglue?

KyleBechtold
08-11-2009, 11:40 PM
superglue?

dries to fast.. have to be able to stretch it..

dappa5
08-12-2009, 08:52 AM
what are you attempting to wrap ?

SubNit
08-12-2009, 10:11 AM
Is it a cloth-backed vinyl?

This is what I used for my vinyl trim piece and it worked just fine. Purchased @ the Home Depot

http://www.ellsworth.com/imagelibrary/jpegs/100/LargePics/90_SPRY.jpg

audioarsonal
08-12-2009, 10:37 AM
The stuff we use at the shop comes in a 5 gal container and is basically contact cement.If your using the stuff in a can it has to be the kind that comes out kinda stringy almost like snot.You can't use the aresol kind it just doesn't have the bond(know from expierance).You need to lay it pretty heavy and coat both surfaces.Let it set up or at least 10 min before you begin to work it.Then around the edges you want to use a good hot melt glue instead of staples.

ramos
08-12-2009, 12:10 PM
http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=50&SubcatID=9

http://www.dap.com/images/products/00233.jpg


The only thing to use on vinyl in a hot arse car IMO :)

BassMechkanic
08-12-2009, 04:46 PM
goto lowes/ home depot/ walmart - buy a can of 3m super 77 - spray both pieces vinyl and wood - let dry to the touch (that is a must) the attach - becareful once it hits it sticks.

KyleBechtold
08-12-2009, 11:18 PM
Ok well The stuff I used is working.. I used some super glue for the back pieces as well as the fabric glue to hold it

DNick454
08-12-2009, 11:40 PM
http://www.dap.com/product_details.aspx?BrandID=50&SubcatID=9

http://www.dap.com/images/products/00233.jpg


The only thing to use on vinyl in a hot arse car IMO :)


That's what I use for adhering carpet to boxes and that's the stuff you should use for vinyl too. Just make sure you read the instructions. You must apply it to BOTH surfaces and let it actually DRY for 15-20 minutes. Then you touch the two together and they bond permanently. Make sure you really stretch it to the edges well and don't leave any slack, once those two things touch, they're pretty much there for good and the bond only strengthens with time.

ramos
08-13-2009, 10:54 AM
... they're pretty much there for good and the bond only strengthens with time.

And heat, the HHR is great due to the heat making the bond stronger as well :)

Ridinhi
08-13-2009, 02:27 PM
pics of the project your working on?

KyleBechtold
08-13-2009, 11:36 PM
pics of the project your working on?

its done for now.. I will snap some pictures.. Idk what else i want to do i will show what it looks like maybe people can give me some ideas

BassMechkanic
08-14-2009, 01:27 PM
where in tampa, if you want you can stop by when i am working and i will take a look at it for you.

KyleBechtold
08-14-2009, 11:29 PM
where in tampa, if you want you can stop by when i am working and i will take a look at it for you.

Hey I have talked to you on Tamparacing.. I im in odessa,fl.. right near the tampa bay downs..

Don't really want to waste your time as I will be doing anything i decide to do on my own so i can learn as i go..