View Full Version : Anyone not impressed with CDT Classic comps? what did i do wrong?
08-05-2009, 01:33 PM
I replaced my 6x8 infinity kappas with some CDT CL-S50A comps. I used an plastic adapter plate I found on ebay to fit 5.25 and a tweeter in the 6x8 location. Also have a JBL GTQ200 bridged powering them. So 100 watts a speaker.
In my 2005 Ford Explorer, the stock location has the speakers mounted at a 45 degree angle. when I tried to mount the adapter plate with the tweeters installed, there were clearance issues. So I popped the tweeter out a bit out of the adapter plate so it sticks out a bit from the adapter plate but is still on there and mounted the tweeter below the mid driver. When I placed the door panel back on the tweeter kind of sat below the grill opening so that may be an issue. When I tried to mount the adapter plate with the tweeter above the driver, the metal behind kind of forced the tweeter to point a little downward. SO I kept it with the tweeter below the mid.
Listening I thought the kappas sounded a lot cleaner, except for the tweeter not being as smooth as the CDT's. Is it my install, would making MDF brackets help with this issue? or are the CDT CL's just way overrated?
08-05-2009, 01:56 PM
could be install/tuning issues, but a lot of people don't care for CDT. Still waiting on a chance to hear some...
08-05-2009, 04:29 PM
08-05-2009, 08:22 PM
The cdt CL's are way over rated.
try to work on your install.
For the Mids try making a MDF plate, which will much more studier, & try deadening your doors as well.
As for the tweeter, you need to find a good location to mount them.
once you get your gear sounding right it will sound better then those Kappa's
08-05-2009, 10:50 PM
iirc you have an adapter plate with a hole in it ftl
08-05-2009, 11:21 PM
i luv my CDT's
i have ES02, ES06+ and DRT26 (on the way) up front on the MX1000 xover and just luv the setup. smooth, hits hard and very clean...
my first set of tweets were the TW22 that went bye bye when my head units rca's decided to come unsoldered, and sent dc voltage to them. frying them instantly.. so i am waiting on the DRT26 set which comes with the silk, aluminum, and titanium. this set allows you to swap out the tweets in seconds.
08-05-2009, 11:23 PM
whats the diff between silk, aluminum, and ***. tweets?
08-06-2009, 12:40 AM
some people love CDT on here some don't. I don't.
08-06-2009, 12:53 AM
whats comparable to cdt that gets loud as cdt but sounds better?? I run cdt and sure they get loud but i wish i could find something that gets as loud but sounds a little cleaner?
08-06-2009, 01:03 AM
i had some cdt cl6.5.... still have the tw24 running active with image dynamics cx62s.... i didnt think the cdt's were bad at all for the price, but the id's are definitely all around better. sound better, get louder, take more power....
silk tweeters seem to be more natural
I dont think i have hear aluminum tweeters, and titanium are super duper harsh to me.
08-06-2009, 08:56 AM
CDT overpriced and over hyped.
IMO they are no better than most cheap brands. They have a couple drivers that excel but the bulk of there stuff is less than impressive.
Here is a list of CDT stuff I have owned own and tested out. So I have tried a few of the CDT offerings.
6 x 9 Prototypes never went into production
I run the ES-620 and HD-3 in the wifes SUV as a quazi-active 3-way front stage. The tweeters are ok, HD-3 are pretty decent the ES-600 will not play very low and ***** in the midrange area but they will get pretty loud. They do a decent job keeping up with 2 15's. All in all they are in the midrange of brands that I have ran. Not the worst but no where close to the best. The issue is still their price which makes them a horrible bang for the buck.IMO
For the money Hertz kills the CDT stuff.
08-06-2009, 04:22 PM
I'm not a fan of CDT.
The CL62s were the first ever components I bought. They were a step up from the Alpine coaxils I've owned. But it was quite immediate and evident that they were lacking. 2 months later, I researched my next set and bought a pair of old school Aura comps. In a side by side test, the Aura's were better in every way...in otherwords, they kicked CDTs ***.
I hope you get things worked out. If not, then do what I did and flog them while their relatively new.
08-07-2009, 06:06 PM
look into these
08-07-2009, 06:18 PM
I had those cdt after alpine type r comp and they were a little upgrade. But id's ctx are so much better in every ways.
What were you expecting of a 99$ set?
08-07-2009, 07:29 PM
^^ everthing these store sell are always a mark up.
that why buying raw driver help you save money.
08-07-2009, 07:34 PM
I really like my CDT ES set
the CL line is very entry
meh some people like em some dont
08-07-2009, 08:10 PM
^^^hey have you played those comps without your sub on???
if you did, didnt you think there was something missing????, like maybe some midbass????
& the upper midrange isnt punchy or very tonality balanced unless you cross them over around 100 or higher!!
08-07-2009, 08:33 PM
yeah i play em sometimes with out the subs on
I get plenty of mid bass and some lower bass, enough to feel it in my pants.
I listen to some drum and bass with just the mids on
I've ran all kinds of mids, in all kinds of cars and I like these the most
08-07-2009, 08:40 PM
^^^Interesting, So what other types of mids have you run in the past?
so you are getting midbass & sometimes lower bass from those mids without a sub on??
08-08-2009, 11:26 AM
I have been using the Cdt CL 6.5" comps and they have much better sound quality IMO compared to most of the brands i have had in the past like Infinity, polk, kicker.
08-09-2009, 08:59 PM
The vifa/cdt mids are really nice in the midrange department,but they lack that midbass that have you craving for more ,more & more.What im saying dollar for dollar you can spend your money on like ID,Hertz comps etc... & you will much more happier in the long run.
I like to save money,
08-09-2009, 09:10 PM
Found your problem:
6x8 mid driver vs 5.25" mid driver. You are looking at a MASSIVE loss of cone area.
08-09-2009, 10:03 PM
08-10-2009, 12:08 AM
some people like em, and some dont. some people think focal is the *****, while others hate the harshness of them. everyone has a taste for music. i used to have the HD-62s with the 560i xover in a really deadened door and the midbass was very much so present. it actually didnt have my taste of midrange but it was a very good driver and sounded quite well..
like i said, everyone has a taste
I agree with the guy above they have good midbass even my cl-62CF's in non deaden or non sealed door HP on the HU at 125 and 200 at the amp still have good midbass for that range, although the midrange lacks has more than enough higher range midrange the lower midrange lacks the vocal part deff lacks maybe i need another EQ to get that 500-2k range out of them idk.
08-10-2009, 02:06 PM
^^if you have to EQ everthing then you need to look @ your install.
But the midrange or midbass in those lower line Cdt's aern't that clean to me.
I think onlt Cdt mids that are nice sounding are the es-6 2009 model & es-07
08-10-2009, 03:50 PM
if you need to eq, then you probably have speakers inside a car.
08-10-2009, 06:31 PM
i have the tw-24s tweeters, little harsh to me for being a silk... sound decent- not great... but for $50 on an open box deal it was not too bad. finally blew them after i started sending 300 watts to each of my doors lol
them **** mpyres will handle all of it too, op you may want to look into those....
08-10-2009, 11:17 PM