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SWFL
07-31-2009, 11:27 PM
I currently have a set of CDT CL-62CF comps on 200rms a side. However gonna need louder speakers. Dont get me wrong these get loud but need louder:D.

I was looking into some PA speakers like selenium or eminence maybe B&C but kinda pricey. Maybe even whip audio:confused:

Just wondering out of selenium and eminence which will get louder and sound somewhat decent? and what xover points would be best for these mids?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290329823971&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.com/Eminence-APLHA-6C-6-American-Standard-Series-Speaker_W0QQitemZ320301685919QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4a9377dc9f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

or newer eminence mids

http://cgi.ebay.com/Eminence-LA6-CBMR-6-American-Standard-Series-Speaker_W0QQitemZ220283504155QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH _DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3349eb861b&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

SWFL
07-31-2009, 11:34 PM
Maybe even O2 audio

galacticmonkey
07-31-2009, 11:38 PM
Glass your doors and put 2 of my Delta 10s in each front door. All you will need.

SWFL
07-31-2009, 11:42 PM
crazzzy man right there. I aint doing 10's i have no room for 10's you seen the doors when closed not much room at all

ciaonzo
08-01-2009, 12:07 AM
crazzzy man right there. I aint doing 10's i have no room for 10's you seen the doors when closed not much room at all

You can do it man. If I can do it in a '92 Toyota 1/2 ton, anyone can do it. It's definitely worth it.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 12:18 AM
would rather run 2 6.5" mids in each door and a 6.5" mid per kick or something like that. I dont want to put huge mids in the doors want to keep it looking factory as possible

ciaonzo
08-01-2009, 12:20 AM
Make it look fagtory.


http://i704.photobucket.com/albums/ww43/ciaonzo/Tens%20in%20the%20Doors/DSC03007.jpg

Linkz
08-01-2009, 12:20 AM
based on the spec sheets, the eminence would be louder. It wont play as low as the 6w4p. The 8w4p (http://www.parts-express.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=264-424&ctab=2#Tabs) would be a good choice as well. It would be louder than both too. The first two shouldnt play anything higher than 4khz, the 8w4p no more than 3khz.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 12:22 AM
want something for mainly mids and highs dont care bout midbass

what kind of xover can i run or should i get a external EQ?

here to buy
08-01-2009, 12:23 AM
want something for mainly mids and highs dont care bout midbass

what kind of xover can i run or should i get a external EQ?

if you ever heard good midbass,


trust me you would want midbass. lol
you cant have enough midbass

Linkz
08-01-2009, 12:25 AM
want something for mainly mids and highs dont care bout midbass

what kind of xover can i run or should i get a external EQ?

4th Order Linkwitz-Riley (http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Calculator/XOver/)
If you want to go active get a 24db/oct slope active crossover.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 12:26 AM
If i want midbass i might go with CDT M6+ drivers one in each door and be set:) idk if i want to get 2 more sets of cdt cl-62cf's so 3 sets total and run 400rms to each set so 1200rms total 600rms per side would cost another 350 bucks or so, or get PA drivers

Linkz
08-01-2009, 12:28 AM
If i want midbass i might go with CDT M6+ drivers one in each door and be set:) idk if i want to get 2 more sets of cdt cl-62cf's so 3 sets total and run 400rms to each set so 1200rms total 600rms per side would cost another 350 bucks or so, or get PA drivers

The speakers above are pa drivers. the 8wp should take 600wrms (set of 2). Only problem is they are 8ohm drivers.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 12:31 AM
the selenium and eminence 6" are 100rms so i figure give them each 100-125rms and then the tweeters i got to make a decesion on either run normal small dome tweets or go with the st350's i think they are? but they are fukkking huge

galacticmonkey
08-01-2009, 01:36 AM
4th Order Linkwitz-Riley (http://www.diyaudioandvideo.com/Calculator/XOver/)
If you want to go active get a 24db/oct slope active crossover.

Ooooooh. Mr Fancy Pants. :fyi:



Just do some B&C 6s/8s with the B&C horn tweeters. Its a little more money, but worth it. Something like 4 6s, and 2 tweeters in each front door, and 2 6s and 1 tweeter in each back door and that would be NASTY loud and sound so clean. I really wanna try those B&C tweeters.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=294-650

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=294-580&FTR=&CFID=8159286&CFTOKEN=77247606



But if youre looking for that NASTY low vocals that you can feel in your chest youre going to need 10" or 12" mids. The 2 Delta 10s I have in my van right now literally rattle my van with vocals.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 01:40 AM
Ooooooh. Mr Fancy Pants. :fyi:



Just do some B&C 6s/8s with the B&C horn tweeters. Its a little more money, but worth it. Something like 4 6s, and 2 tweeters in each front door, and 2 6s and 1 tweeter in each back door and that would be NASTY loud and sound so clean. I really wanna try those B&C tweeters.

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=294-650

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=294-580&FTR=&CFID=8159286&CFTOKEN=77247606



But if youre looking for that NASTY low vocals that you can feel in your chest youre going to need 10" or 12" mids. The 2 Delta 10s I have in my van right now literally rattle my van with vocals.


where were they when i took a listen:rolleyes:

RAM_Designs
08-01-2009, 01:41 AM
Only the Selenium mids in the first post are going to give you good midbass/depth to your vocals. I'd go with a pair of those in each door, wire them down to 4ohm for each door, and bridge a 4 channel for 200+ watts to each side.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 01:47 AM
what kind of xover or eq settings do i need

can i run these xovers

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360165936923&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching

cheap but seem like they work? what bout tweeters, what should i look into, could i run the cdt TW-25 tweets with the mids, or should i just keep the 480 xover and swap the mids out?

galacticmonkey
08-01-2009, 01:49 AM
where were they when i took a listen:rolleyes:

Sitting in my garage. I only had 4 6s in when you heard it, no 10s.

SWFL
08-01-2009, 02:01 AM
wanna sell them pm me might be interested in that mids and high setup u had that day