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_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 03:13 PM
as title states. ;)

power-fanatic07
07-22-2009, 03:15 PM
pioneer 880 prs

alpine 9887

just a couple i know of. im sure there are more

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 03:17 PM
too spensive son!

i haz little monies

WrenchGuy
07-22-2009, 03:20 PM
Look into Active and Passive a tad more. You should come up with a few ways to go.

TurdFergueson2
07-22-2009, 03:21 PM
I believe an eclipse 8455, CD7000, 8454, 8443 and 8053 can

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 03:23 PM
Look into Active and Passive a tad more. You should come up with a few ways to go.

too much crap to look through when i search.

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 03:23 PM
I believe an eclipse 8455, CD7000, 8454, 8443 and 8053 can

will look into these units.

Flipx99
07-22-2009, 03:49 PM
It seems like many of you are posting HUs with 3 way active completely. What you are asking for a is a 4way active, and the only two I know that do that is the Clarion DRZ and the Ural.

IMO, 2 way active front stage is complicated/fun enough. I strongly support the PRS880/800.

jmanpc
07-22-2009, 03:52 PM
For little monies, look into a Clarion DXZ785USB :fyi:

IIRC sonicelectronix has them for $130

Flipx99
07-22-2009, 03:54 PM
For little monies, look into a Clarion DXZ785USB :fyi:

IIRC sonicelectronix has them for $130

That does not have a 3 way active front stage.

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 03:55 PM
It seems like many of you are posting HUs with 3 way active completely. What you are asking for a is a 4way active, and the only two I know that do that is the Clarion DRZ and the Ural.

IMO, 2 way active front stage is complicated/fun enough. I strongly support the PRS880/800.

this is what i mean. mid-bass, mid-range, tweeter, and sub ran active

TurdFergueson2
07-22-2009, 03:57 PM
will look into these units.

They all should be in the 200s. Older units though, but you may be able to get them off eBay or CL.

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 04:00 PM
It seems like many of you are posting HUs with 3 way active completely. What you are asking for a is a 4way active, and the only two I know that do that is the Clarion DRZ and the Ural.

IMO, 2 way active front stage is complicated/fun enough. I strongly support the PRS880/800.

this unit looks like *** :drool:

ngsm13
07-22-2009, 04:08 PM
pioneer 880 prs

alpine 9887

just a couple i know of. im sure there are more
No.

I believe an eclipse 8455, CD7000, 8454, 8443 and 8053 can
No.

It seems like many of you are posting HUs with 3 way active completely. What you are asking for a is a 4way active, and the only two I know that do that is the Clarion DRZ and the Ural.

IMO, 2 way active front stage is complicated/fun enough. I strongly support the PRS880/800.
This.

For little monies, look into a Clarion DXZ785USB :fyi:

IIRC sonicelectronix has them for $130
No.

That does not have a 3 way active front stage.
This.

this is what i mean. mid-bass, mid-range, tweeter, and sub ran active
Yup, Flip is correct. You need a HU with 4way active capability. Or and external processor.

nG

Flipx99
07-22-2009, 04:13 PM
External processing is a better way to go IMO.

The DRZ is ~$600 and the Ural ranges because I don't even think it is American.

ngsm13
07-22-2009, 04:14 PM
External processing is a better way to go IMO.

The DRZ is ~$600 and the Ural ranges because I don't even think it is American.

Yup. With 4way active, external is the way to go.

3way offers a multitude of options though.

nG

TurdFergueson2
07-22-2009, 04:15 PM
External processing is a better way to go IMO.

The DRZ is ~$600 and the Ural ranges because I don't even think it is American.

Out of his budget if the 9887 was.

_AnGeL_
07-22-2009, 04:25 PM
what external processor will do 4 way active

Flipx99
07-22-2009, 04:36 PM
what external processor will do 4 way active

None that are cheap. Look into audio control...some of theres may do some.

However, I don't reccomend using amp filters to go active. I tried when I had my DDS4a and you could hear, quite distinctly, the difference between using that amp's filters vs. the HU.

groundpound4200
07-22-2009, 04:41 PM
None that are cheap. Look into audio control...some of theres may do some.

However, I don't reccomend using amp filters to go active. I tried when I had my DDS4a and you could hear, quite distinctly, the difference between using that amp's filters vs. the HU.

X2 it was night and day going from my sundowns crossovers to my alpine 9887's. My front stage was much wider among other things

BlackMaxima
07-22-2009, 06:13 PM
will this work for a active 3way?

Audio Control DQXS
http://www.woofersetc.com/p2874/DQXS--Audio-Control-Digital-Equalizer-Crossover.htm



or this one?
ARC IDX Digital Crossover
http://www.woofersetc.com/p7201/IDX--ARC-IDX-Digital-Crossover.htm

James Bang
07-22-2009, 06:17 PM
pioneer 880 prs

alpine 9887

just a couple i know of. im sure there are more
liar

I believe an eclipse 8455, CD7000, 8454, 8443 and 8053 can
liar

It seems like many of you are posting HUs with 3 way active completely. What you are asking for a is a 4way active, and the only two I know that do that is the Clarion DRZ and the Ural.

IMO, 2 way active front stage is complicated/fun enough. I strongly support the PRS880/800.
truth

For little monies, look into a Clarion DXZ785USB :fyi:

IIRC sonicelectronix has them for $130
liar

That does not have a 3 way active front stage.
truth

this is what i mean. mid-bass, mid-range, tweeter, and sub ran active
yeah

They all should be in the 200s. Older units though, but you may be able to get them off eBay or CL.
lies

No.

No.

This.

No.

This.

Yup, Flip is correct. You need a HU with 4way active capability. Or and external processor.

nG

yeah.




multi-fials

Blue Fury
07-22-2009, 06:19 PM
For 4 way, you could do like me and get a 3 way HU, then have different amps for your mid bass and subwoofers to use the crossover networks together.. ie. Bandpass the mid bass with the HU's LPF and the amp's subsonic, then LPF on the sub amp.

James Bang
07-22-2009, 06:21 PM
or you can go passive(or bi-amp) between the midrange and tweet and mount them close together for T/A purposes.

rc10mike
07-26-2009, 11:16 AM
This (http://www.pioneer.eu/eur/content/press/news/dexp99rs.html)

Good Luck.

PaulD
07-27-2009, 10:16 AM
Does the OP really understand how much tuning goes into an active 4 way sytem to make it sound good ?

mcsoul
07-27-2009, 10:23 AM
Does the OP really understand how much tuning goes into an active 4 way sytem to make it sound good ?

more speakers sounds more better

ejschultz
07-27-2009, 11:20 AM
With the audio controls on the Alpine PXA-H701 and the RUX-C701 Combo, you can run 4 way active. You'd still have to get a seperate CD player along with that as that's just a processor. It is pretty nice though; it's got a 31 band (L/R) graphic EQ, 7 band parametric EQ with 5 bands for the mids/highs and 2 dedicated to the subs, TA and a mic for auto TA, and it adds all the Alpine sound processors like MediaXpander. It's a little old so it may be hard to find the combo now. I take that back as Crutchfield has the PXA-H701 in stock for $199, but the RUX-C701 may be hard to find.

dragnix
07-27-2009, 02:06 PM
OP, have you ever done a 2way active front stage yet?

Beerdrnkr
07-27-2009, 02:28 PM
With the audio controls on the Alpine PXA-H701 and the RUX-C701 Combo, you can run 4 way active. You'd still have to get a seperate CD player along with that as that's just a processor. It is pretty nice though; it's got a 31 band (L/R) graphic EQ, 7 band parametric EQ with 5 bands for the mids/highs and 2 dedicated to the subs, TA and a mic for auto TA, and it adds all the Alpine sound processors like MediaXpander. It's a little old so it may be hard to find the combo now. I take that back as Crutchfield has the PXA-H701 in stock for $199, but the RUX-C701 may be hard to find.

You can also just get a HU that's compatible with the H701. The OP can also look into buying only a 3way active HU, some nice 3 or 4" full range speakers, and some 8's in the doors. That's what I'm trying out since my HU only has 2 channels for T/A.

adam71
07-27-2009, 02:52 PM
Pioneer P9 combo??;)

Flipx99
07-27-2009, 02:54 PM
Active is overrated.

I bet I can get a passive setup to sound just as good as some off yall goofballs active setups.

adam71
07-27-2009, 03:07 PM
Active is overrated.

I bet I can get a passive setup to sound just as good as some off yall goofballs active setups.

Not better than mine.;)

A good passive setup can sound better than ANY active setup that isn't set up correctly.

na_rsx
07-27-2009, 10:58 PM
my headunit

Tonyguy
07-27-2009, 11:06 PM
With the audio controls on the Alpine PXA-H701 and the RUX-C701 Combo, you can run 4 way active. You'd still have to get a seperate CD player along with that as that's just a processor. It is pretty nice though; it's got a 31 band (L/R) graphic EQ, 7 band parametric EQ with 5 bands for the mids/highs and 2 dedicated to the subs, TA and a mic for auto TA, and it adds all the Alpine sound processors like MediaXpander. It's a little old so it may be hard to find the combo now. I take that back as Crutchfield has the PXA-H701 in stock for $199, but the RUX-C701 may be hard to find.

Sorry man, you got it backwards. The Rux-c701 is $199 on crutchfield. The PXA-C701 typically goes for $350-$450 used and almost impossible to find new.

Brian_smith06
07-27-2009, 11:14 PM
Active is overrated.

I bet I can get a passive setup to sound just as good as some off yall goofballs active setups.

this is why im going to pay somebody to tune my ish once i go active lol. i have the ability to install somewhat decent but when it comes to tuning i know i flat out **** at that lol:crazy:

rc10mike
07-27-2009, 11:26 PM
* powerful D/A converters,
* 4-way DSP,
* a separate adjustment for crossover network,
* time alignment for left and right channels and
* complete frequency-band control that allows you to refine audio with new levels of precision.




http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/rc10zmoney/dexp99rs_main_gallery.jpg

Flipx99
07-27-2009, 11:28 PM
That is not american I don't think.

ejschultz
07-27-2009, 11:50 PM
* powerful D/A converters,
* 4-way DSP,
* a separate adjustment for crossover network,
* time alignment for left and right channels and
* complete frequency-band control that allows you to refine audio with new levels of precision.




http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c131/rc10zmoney/dexp99rs_main_gallery.jpg

I like how it's an SQ head unit, yet it shows an mp3 CD in it. Since when did mp3's give great SQ? That's the DEX-P99RS. Simply orgasmic. I don't know why companies think America doesn't want things like this. Sure it's ridiculously priced, but we all know some of us would buy it.

Also, that looks real similar to the 800PRS. Obviously it's different, yet it's still similar.

ejschultz
07-27-2009, 11:53 PM
Sorry man, you got it backwards. The Rux-c701 is $199 on crutchfield. The PXA-C701 typically goes for $350-$450 used and almost impossible to find new.

Yes, thanks. I definitely had that mixed up.

rc10mike
07-27-2009, 11:59 PM
I like how it's an SQ head unit, yet it shows an mp3 CD in it. Since when did mp3's give great SQ?

Also, that looks real similar to the 880PRS. Obviously it's different, yet it's still similar.

I gave a link on pg2. This seems to be the single unit, do-all HU that Ive been waiting for. And I honestly dont care what it costs, or if I have to buy it from Europe..

ejschultz
07-28-2009, 12:03 AM
I gave a link on pg2. This seems to be the single unit, do-all HU that Ive been waiting for. And I honestly dont care what it costs, or if I have to buy it from Europe..

Good luck buying it from Europe. You might be making a trip there. I was just on google.co.uk and it's nowhere to be found for sale. Pioneer's UK website doesn't even give a price, just places where you can buy it and none of which are online dealers.

rc10mike
07-28-2009, 12:05 AM
Good luck buying it from Europe. You might be making a trip there. I was just on google.co.uk and it's nowhere to be found for sale. Pioneer's UK website doesn't even give a price, just places where you can buy it and none of which are online dealers.

It just came out, give it some time. Im also still waiting on a response from Pioneer regarding this unit being available in the US.

ejschultz
07-28-2009, 12:13 AM
It just came out, give it some time. Im also still waiting on a response from Pioneer regarding this unit being available in the US.

That would be sweet if they brought it here. I'd probably be selling my 800 at that point, pending how ridiculous the price of the P99RS would be. I'm guessing it will be pushing $2000 maybe more.

Brian_smith06
07-28-2009, 12:16 AM
im not a fan of the way that deck looks however if it comes here im getting one. looks dont make audio set ups sound good :)

rc10mike
07-28-2009, 12:16 AM
That would be sweet if they brought it here. I'd probably be selling my 800 at that point, pending how ridiculous the price of the P99RS would be. I'm guessing it will be pushing $2000 maybe more.

Ill guess $800-1200 street.

James Bang
07-28-2009, 12:27 AM
Active is overrated.

I bet I can get a passive setup to sound just as good as some off yall goofballs active setups.

That doesn't say much. At all.

FJF
07-28-2009, 12:31 AM
That doesn't say much. At all.

<grin> My thought, as well.

ejschultz
07-28-2009, 12:45 AM
Ill guess $800-1200 street.

At that price, my 800 would be outta there, maybe... I've grown pretty fond of it in the last couple of months, basically since I got it. The P99RS does offer more than just the 4 way capability. It's got a 31 band graphic EQ (I'm assuming L/R although it's not specified), 4 24 bit DACs, and USB support on the rear. Also, it's got more than blue and white for the key/button color, not that it really matters. I would assume the American version, if there is to be one, would drop the RDS feature. It would be nice to have but the only company giving us that is Kenwood, to my knowledge.
Since I probably wouldn't plan on running a 4 way active set up, I'd have to weigh all the other advantages.

adam71
07-28-2009, 05:49 AM
At that price, my 800 would be outta there, maybe... I've grown pretty fond of it in the last couple of months, basically since I got it. The P99RS does offer more than just the 4 way capability. It's got a 31 band graphic EQ (I'm assuming L/R although it's not specified), 4 24 bit DACs, and USB support on the rear. Also, it's got more than blue and white for the key/button color, not that it really matters. I would assume the American version, if there is to be one, would drop the RDS feature. It would be nice to have but the only company giving us that is Kenwood, to my knowledge.
Since I probably wouldn't plan on running a 4 way active set up, I'd have to weigh all the other advantages.

I think I still like the P9 setup better. To me that is wayyy too much going on in one chassis. At least with the P9 having a separate processor you are still only running OPTICAL (immune to noise) back to the trunk and running very short RCA runs to your amplifiers. Also, anyone that isn't running a 4 way active setup should steer clear of this unit anyway as it would be a waste of their money.

Just my .02 :)

ejschultz
07-28-2009, 11:12 AM
Maybe Eonon will come out with a 4 way head unit and one of their feg reps will come on here and push the **** out of it.

ejschultz
07-28-2009, 11:13 AM
I think I still like the P9 setup better. To me that is wayyy too much going on in one chassis. At least with the P9 having a separate processor you are still only running OPTICAL (immune to noise) back to the trunk and running very short RCA runs to your amplifiers. Also, anyone that isn't running a 4 way active setup should steer clear of this unit anyway as it would be a waste of their money.

Just my .02 :)

Yeah, I realize it would be somewhat of a waste of money for me to purchase something like that. I'm not running active now and I feel I'm not getting my money's worth out of the 800.

Horsemanwill
07-28-2009, 08:28 PM
this is why im going to pay somebody to tune my ish once i go active lol. i have the ability to install somewhat decent but when it comes to tuning i know i flat out **** at that lol:crazy:

WAIT!!! YOUR gonna pay me?