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BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 11:47 AM
Edited just for James ;)

I have a 1993 civic si hatch back
i am doing a 3way front stage and thinking about getting horns for the mids

so far what i have decided for my system

is
pioneer double din avh-p4000dvd
kenwood 9 band 1/2 din eq
kenwood 1/2 din crossover kec-202
cx62 mids
nx30 tweeters
2 10" idmax subs

i have a set of cx52 comps sitting here if the midbass is not enough and the tweets are not loud enough if i decide to use horns

my question is will i get better sound quality or equal using a driver or will horns win hands down?

James Bang
07-09-2009, 12:02 PM
Please make sense.

BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 12:11 PM
what didnt you understand................... please try to be helpful.....


maybe you didnt understand by the title but i would like to know which would be better for a 3 way setup using a driver or a horn i am lookinf or opinions and personal expirience

its_bacon12
07-09-2009, 12:15 PM
The horn is completely unnecessary and will absolutely overpower everything. Why even consider it if you know exactly what you're doing?

James Bang
07-09-2009, 12:16 PM
i am using a nx30 as the tweeter and cx62 as mid woofer i will add a cx52 for the woofer if the cx62 isnt enough (space is a issues in a 93 civic hatch back) and also have another pair of nx30s if i go with horns and they over power the tweets

please let me know your opinions and ofcourse i will be active

If you're going to want some serious answers, please type out your question/problem in a serious manner. At least add some punctuation to help others decipher that secret message. More info would be nice, too. Active? how? With what equip?




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James Bang
07-09-2009, 12:18 PM
If you go with horns, a 2-way front is all you'll need.

BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 12:25 PM
edited first post

so you are saying i wont hear a difference with tweeters?

BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 04:41 PM
also do you think i will need both woofers for enough midbass?

Horsemanwill
07-09-2009, 05:56 PM
Edited just for James ;)

I have a 1993 civic si hatch back
i am doing a 3way front stage and thinking about getting horns for the mids

so far what i have decided for my system

is
pioneer double din avh-p4000dvd
kenwood 9 band 1/2 din eq
kenwood 1/2 din crossover kec-202
cx62 mids
nx30 tweeters
2 10" idmax subs

i have a set of cx52 comps sitting here if the midbass is not enough and the tweets are not loud enough if i decide to use horns

my question is will i get better sound quality or equal using a driver or will horns win hands down?


also do you think i will need both woofers for enough midbass?

horns don't provide mids. as for the sound it depends on which horn you get and how much power your going to feed it. where are you putting the mids at? i'd recommend the cx62. what your power ratio? knowing what your using for power is very important when it comes to horns.

BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 09:35 PM
I am using a rf150a2 for the horns and a rf360a2 for the cx62s should I add my cx52 to the doors since I can fit those no problem and have u heard a difference with tweets when using a horn

One more question is the sq gonna be better with horns or a pair of mid range drivers in my 3 way setup

Horsemanwill
07-09-2009, 09:37 PM
you won't need the the cx52 just run the cx62. what about the power for the subs? if you plan on trying to use tweets with horns your gonna need a pair of 'real" supertweets. and they have to be more effiecent then the horns

BadmonBuilt
07-09-2009, 10:07 PM
Would running 2 pairs of tweets like 2 nx30s help ? Or is the crossover point just to high for them

I have a rf 1100a2 should give each sub about 700-750w

BadmonBuilt
07-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Noone?

Horsemanwill
07-10-2009, 06:15 PM
i'm not understanding what your saying? you want to run tweets with horns?

BadmonBuilt
07-10-2009, 09:25 PM
Yea for the extreme highs

Horsemanwill
07-10-2009, 09:59 PM
the horns will play the highs fine. running 2 nx30 tweets won't make them play any frequency higher just louder.

BadmonBuilt
07-10-2009, 10:54 PM
Oh I was going to cross them about 10k thought I would get a better highs from the tweets than the horns that high

ptannjr
07-12-2009, 01:44 AM
Badmon,
Where are you located. I am going to be starting to put in the system in my truck next week with the ID CD1E Mini horns and th CX62 on a q450.4. I also have a couple dealers in the state that have done hte horns as of late. I will try to arrange a demo for you if you would like that way you are not trying to listen to them on line so to speak.

JeepBeats96JGC
07-12-2009, 08:35 AM
do you even know what midrange means? lol.. or for that matter do you even understand the concept of 3-way?. its not called 3-way because you're connecting 3 "things" to the x-over. its called 3-way because you are trying to tune 3 diff freq. ranges. low/mid, mid, and high. not high, higher, and supersonic high.

bass_lover1
07-12-2009, 03:29 PM
Three way really means three sets of crossovers. So yes, technically you would be connecting three sets of speakers to some sort of crossover.

The OPs title is kind of confusing, but he wants to know whether he should do a 3-way front with a typical cone midrange, or a horn. Really though a true horn isn't going to cover the entire midrange. My guess is most will only play from ~1kHz on upwards, to somewhere around 18kHz. If you want to do horns, you either better have plenty of power on tap for your midbass, or be using some type of PA driver to keep up with the high efficiency of horns.

spencer321
07-13-2009, 04:33 PM
do you even know what midrange means? lol.. or for that matter do you even understand the concept of 3-way?. its not called 3-way because you're connecting 3 "things" to the x-over. its called 3-way because you are trying to tune 3 diff freq. ranges. low/mid, mid, and high. not high, higher, and supersonic high.

in florida we only care about how many tweeters and subs you can fit in the car, nothing else matters, and oh yeah how many marine 6x9's will fit in the grill

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