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WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 10:53 PM
I am going to do a simple two channel setup. I am not really interested in HT, sorround etc. In fact, I will most likely not even have a CD player. I am just going to run off of an Ipod. The only feature that I know I want at this point is to be able to run a 2nd zone.

So, my questions are:

In the world of entry level receivers, is there one out there that is known for being an overachiever?

About the only brand names for such receivers that I have looked at are Onkyo, Yamaha and Denon. Yep, I have been perusing Crutchfield. Any of these stand out as being generally better than the others? Any that I should stay away from?

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 10:55 PM
i like my 2 channel harman kardon.has a sub output too

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 10:58 PM
however i have a 50x2 Onkyo that is 4 ohm stable.very nice

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:20 PM
i like my 2 channel harman kardon.has a sub output too

I forgot about HK.

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:22 PM
it looks great too. check amazon mine was $229

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:25 PM
Not bad. I figure that if I screw up on this purchase I can always use it to run a pair of bookshelves in my office.

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:30 PM
i ran some 8 inch paradigms with it,now i even run a pair of dual 8 inch klipsch towers with the hk

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:31 PM
the hk and a Marantz were the only 2 channel receivers i could find with a sub output if that matters to you,that was a couple years ago.

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:33 PM
i ran some 8 inch paradigms with it,now i even run a pair of dual 8 inch klipsch towers with the hk

I saw a pair of those towers the other day, very nice looking.


the hk and a Marantz were the only 2 channel receivers i could find with a sub output if that matters to you,that was a couple years ago.

Actually, my current plans are to avoid adding a sub.

Rich B
06-28-2009, 11:35 PM
Outlaw Audio (an online home audio company) sells a stereo receiver thats gotten good reviews in the recent past.

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:36 PM
no sub is necessary,just nice to know you dont need a 5.1 channel for sub capability. i love the klipsch rf-82's i have 4 of them,great for movies

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:36 PM
Outlaw Audio (an online home audio company) sells a stereo receiver thats gotten good reviews in the recent past.

i have their lfm 1 plus subwoofer.**** loud

bigaudiofanati2
06-28-2009, 11:41 PM
Tube amp's FTW just google for them very under rated and have a very nice warm sound threw almost any speakers.

loud-n-low
06-28-2009, 11:43 PM
Tube amp's FTW just google for them very under rated and have a very nice warm sound threw almost any speakers.

true,but usually pricey

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:44 PM
Outlaw Audio (an online home audio company) sells a stereo receiver thats gotten good reviews in the recent past.

Thanks, I have seen that name -- I will check them out.


no sub is necessary,just nice to know you dont need a 5.1 channel for sub capability. i love the klipsch rf-82's i have 4 of them,great for movies

wow, that is sweet.


Tube amp's FTW just google for them very under rated and have a very nice warm sound threw almost any speakers.

Hmmm, do they come in an integrated amp?

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Yeah, I want to keep my reintroduction to home audio on the value side. I don't want to spend bunch of money now, because I know once I get into this I will have more definite ideas in a year.

Rich B
06-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Tube integrated amps-
http://desc.shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=tube&_sacat=3280&LH_TitleDesc=1&_trksid=p3286.m270.l1313&_odkw=&_osacat=3280&_rdc=1

its_bacon12
06-28-2009, 11:52 PM
Do you care about HDMI or anything? If not, an old Yamaha is what I did and it works absolutely wonderfully. Sounds great and has great features

WhoSayWho?
06-28-2009, 11:56 PM
Do you care about HDMI or anything? If not, an old Yamaha is what I did and it works absolutely wonderfully. Sounds great and has great features

I have been struggling with that a little. I know I could care less about it now, but my attitude has been that I don't want to go out of my way to avoid it either - just in case.

In short, if I had a choice between a good receiver with HDMI and a better one without it I would go with the latter.

its_bacon12
06-29-2009, 12:00 AM
Here are some GREAT deals that will offer you extremely high value for the money:

Denon AVR-2800 (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1251317751&/Denon-Avr-2800-Dolby-digital-and-dts-a/v)


Onkyo TX-8511
(http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1250175703&/Onkyo-TX-8511)

I would go with the Onkyo personally.

WhoSayWho?
06-29-2009, 12:04 AM
Here are some GREAT deals that will offer you extremely high value for the money:

Denon AVR-2800 (http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1251317751&/Denon-Avr-2800-Dolby-digital-and-dts-a/v)


Onkyo TX-8511
(http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1250175703&/Onkyo-TX-8511)

I would go with the Onkyo personally.

Thanks, I am going to check those out.

l7runner
06-29-2009, 12:04 AM
2 channels are becoming more rare these days...but you can just pick up a decent 5.1 set up and run stereo. Some for under $150

Pioneer, onkyo, yamaha, denon, and HK are all good brands

WhoSayWho?
06-29-2009, 12:31 AM
2 channels are becoming more rare these days...but you can just pick up a decent 5.1 set up and run stereo. Some for under $150

Pioneer, onkyo, yamaha, denon, and HK are all good brands


Yeah, and that was really one of my questions I was considering -- is a two channel any better at doing what I currently want than say a 5.1 or 71 with similar rated output per channel.

For example, the Onkyo 8555 is the only 2 channel out of these:
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/CompareTo.aspx?g=10420&cc=01&compareItems=01|033AV1609&compareItems=01|033AV1709&compareItems=01|580TX8555&compareItems=01|580TXS507B

WhoSayWho?
06-29-2009, 12:33 AM
Oh well, link is screwed.

l7runner
06-29-2009, 12:54 AM
Yeah I have a pioneer 5.1 that I use just in stereo the majority of the time.

It is nice to have the extra channels just in case you ever wanna do HT and you wont have to buy a separate receiver. Its not like you are gonna save much money by just getting a 2 channel.

7.1 probably is needed either, unless you have a tremendous room

Random1010
06-29-2009, 12:56 AM
Outlaw Audio (an online home audio company) sells a stereo receiver thats gotten good reviews in the recent past.

I run their 990 paired with an Usher 6.0.

JimJ
06-29-2009, 11:52 AM
I wouldn't even get a receiver in that case.

2nd the integrated amp idea, though I'd stay away from those Chinese tubed integrateds. Look on Audiogon for used stuff.

I wouldn't go tubes unless you have $500-600 to spend on an EL34 push/pull design, or have very efficient speakers and could use EL84s in the 12-25 watt range.

WhoSayWho?
06-29-2009, 10:17 PM
I wouldn't even get a receiver in that case.

2nd the integrated amp idea, though I'd stay away from those Chinese tubed integrateds. Look on Audiogon for used stuff.

I wouldn't go tubes unless you have $500-600 to spend on an EL34 push/pull design, or have very efficient speakers and could use EL84s in the 12-25 watt range.

Yeah, weel the truth is I know I don't need a tuner, If I can find an integrated amp that does what I want I would be happy with that. I have just really started looking, and to be honest looking for a power source seems to be difficult for a couple of reasons -- I am not familiar with the places to shop online and I am starting from scratch with my knowledge of what is out there.

loud-n-low
06-29-2009, 10:20 PM
Yeah, weel the truth is I know I don't need a tuner, If I can find an integrated amp that does what I want I would be happy with that. I have just really started looking, and to be honest looking for a power source seems to be difficult for a couple of reasons -- I am not familiar with the places to shop online and I am starting from scratch with my knowledge of what is out there.

there are still some new Rotel rb-1050 2 channel amps out there,no preamp though. the cheapest integrated Rotel is $699. start cheap,get a Onkyo or yamaha 2,or 5 channel and just runs the fronts

WhoSayWho?
06-29-2009, 10:23 PM
Starting cheap sounds like a great idea to me --- like I said, I am fine with knowing that whatever I buy now may end up running a pair of bookshelves in my office one day.