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HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 07:26 PM
Ok, here are the pics of the Morel Tempo 6X speakers that I got today from woofersetc. I seriously question the authenticity of these speakers.

A. I have never heard of a line called the 6x does anyone have input on this?
B. There is not a single serial number on these or even adhesive where one would of originally been
C. No holograph card or mention
D. Manual looks to be cut with scissors
E. The morel website doesn’t even have such a product as the Tempo 6x



Please only people who have knowledge of the product comment. I’m debating my next step if I should call them, morel or My CC Company. Pics below… Thoughts form people with morels or who have seen these speakers?


http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts010.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts011.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts012.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts015.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts001-1.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts002.jpg

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 08:23 PM
anyone ?

oldschoolboomer
06-24-2009, 08:27 PM
thats them

krainium
06-24-2009, 08:29 PM
I have a pair I got from woofersetc they had the halogram on the tweeters but not the woofers. There was a little piece of plastic in a baggy of screws you have to hold up to chrome sticker on the tweeter. I have been using them for about 2 months with 150 rms and the sound great so far with no problems.

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 08:32 PM
I am confusesd about this Tempo 6x line that was sent though. I can not find any information on them and they seem to have different specs then the normal tempo six according to the side of the box... There is also no plastic piece to verify authenticity in either box.

jpexpc
06-24-2009, 08:36 PM
The 6 signifies it's the 6" model, not the 5". I would assume the 5" has a 5 on the box.

jpexpc
06-24-2009, 08:37 PM
http://www.morelhifi.com/products/mob_2way_tempo.html

Johnny Law.Lulz
06-24-2009, 08:38 PM
If they sound great then whats it matter. Hook them up and see how they sound.

jpexpc
06-24-2009, 08:41 PM
I see what you're saying about the box but it appears the sticker on the magnet has the correct info. I agree though, hook it up and forget it.

krainium
06-24-2009, 08:43 PM
The little piece of plastic is like 1/8" x 1" its tiny look in one of the little baggies. Post a picture of the backside of the tweeter.

Worlddre
06-24-2009, 08:43 PM
send a pm to 6spdcoupe if anyone would know he would. And next time buy authorized. You are not going to find a serial number anywhere on those btw.

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 08:46 PM
http://www.morelhifi.com/products/mob_2way_tempo.html

Thats what concerns me. These list completely different specs

Black = Off Morel site For tempo 6.
Red = Off this box sent to me

Nominal Impedance 4 Ohm
Power Handling 120W 80w
Max. Transient Power Handling 280W200w
Sensitivity (2.83V/1M) 90dB
Frequency Response 40-22000Hz
Crossover Point 3800Hz 6dB/octave
Voice Coil Diameter
Woofer:
Tweeter:
25mm (1")
28mm (1.10") (1.00")
Voice Coil Wire
Woofer: Hexatech Aluminum Copper
Tweeter: Copper

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 08:48 PM
Cant get a clear pic of tweet but it does not look like any other pics i have seen so far of tempo tweets Here are the best ones i could take (**** with a cam sorry)
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts003-1.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts006-1.jpg
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts009.jpg

mobeious
06-24-2009, 08:54 PM
u myfriend have been had... are they a authorized dealer?

krainium
06-24-2009, 08:57 PM
My tweeters looked different and my box was different there is no X after 6

jpexpc
06-24-2009, 08:57 PM
u myfriend have been had... are they a authorized dealer?

LOL! You serious?

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 08:59 PM
camera button = macro

Thanks!@ thats awesome... Now i understand why i cant ever take decent close ups.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/tempo6xtweet002.jpg

oldschoolboomer
06-24-2009, 09:25 PM
i just noticed the graphics on the xo are different on the website. maybe a newer model?

oldschoolboomer
06-24-2009, 09:26 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOREL-TEMPO-6X-NEW-6.5%22-TWO-WAY-COMPONENT-SPEAKER-SET-6_W0QQitemZ120430296584QQcmdZViewItemQQimsxq200906 05?IMSfp=TL090605169004r11734

did you buy off ebay?

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 09:33 PM
I know they are listed there but no, i emailed them and offered them $400 shipped for two sets and they sent an invoice.

oldschoolboomer
06-24-2009, 09:39 PM
i would guess last years models. Thats probably why they took your 200 shipped

williambrea
06-24-2009, 09:40 PM
My tweets had a holographic sticker on em, doesnt seem good to me but could be buyout or something. Look into it defiantly.....

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 09:42 PM
I took one of my sons holograph things from an activity book to see if i could see anything on any of the speakers and nothing was there. I also used a black light to check and no markings either. I sent woofersetc an email asking what was up with this and i will keep everyone updated. As a heads up though these are clearly not normal tempo 6 speakers.

I have faith they will handle this just fine. I have dealt with them many many times and in the one issue i had with an item they replaced it extremely fast.

To be clear I am not calling them scammers but there is something fishy about the speakers i was sent...

hornedfrog1985
06-24-2009, 09:46 PM
I hope they are legit. I'm supposed to get mine on Friday.

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/product-selection-comparisons/53064-morel-tempo-genuine-label.html

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404621

I'm willing to be they are legit. They probably mess with the numbers because they don't want them to be traced.

hornedfrog1985
06-24-2009, 10:24 PM
Maybe they put 80 watts on the box because the tweet says 80 watts.

HypnoticCure
06-24-2009, 11:19 PM
its not only the wattage that is diff its a completely different tweeter and it states that the 6.5 has a different coil material. Woofersetc responded and asked for my number. They said they will contact me to look into the matter.

hornedfrog1985
06-24-2009, 11:23 PM
Well, keep me posted because we are in the same boat if so... Who knows, maybe they will hook us up with a better set or something cool like that.

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 12:19 AM
I hear all this about fake Morels, but when I search I never find any. Has anyone actuall seen a confirmed pair of fakes (by morel)?

HypnoticCure
06-25-2009, 01:50 AM
Well, i got a call from david at woofers etc tonight, I was in a meeting so i couldnt answer the call. I will give him a call in the morning. I must say they do answer email and calls fast.

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 01:54 AM
They are a legit place, so hopefuly it all works out... I know a lot of people question the authenticity on these components, but I never hear any follow up after they accuse.

6spdcoupe
06-25-2009, 03:10 AM
Well, keep me posted because we are in the same boat if so... Who knows, maybe they will hook us up with a better set or something cool like that.

You would still take something from them ?? :crazy::confused:


I hear all this about fake Morels, but when I search I never find any. Has anyone actuall seen a confirmed pair of fakes (by morel)?

Yes, actually I have.


Well, i got a call from david at woofers etc tonight, I was in a meeting so i couldnt answer the call. I will give him a call in the morning. I must say they do answer email and calls fast.

Of course ! Thats the best way to cover your *** in Any situation before it spreads like wild fire. They immediately jumped on this very forum a few months back for damage control too.


They are a legit place, so hopefuly it all works out... I know a lot of people question the authenticity on these components, but I never hear any follow up after they accuse.

The are legit ? A legit business ? Sure. Legit Morel dealer ? Absolutely Not. Nor for the majority of what they offer.

Hoodlum007
06-25-2009, 04:23 AM
I really doubt they are fake, my buddy got the Tempo6 comps and Tempo6 coax from woofersEtc and they sound awesome. I really don't think somebody is going to make fake speakers and put this much quality into them.

HypnoticCure
06-25-2009, 05:38 AM
You would still take something from them ?? :crazy::confused:



Yes, actually I have.



Of course ! Thats the best way to cover your *** in Any situation before it spreads like wild fire. They immediately jumped on this very forum a few months back for damage control too.



The are legit ? A legit business ? Sure. Legit Morel dealer ? Absolutely Not. Nor for the majority of what they offer.

Don, have you ever heard of this line. The Tempo 6x ? Someone earlier mentioned that your a morel dealer i didnt know that. I have purchased several sets of rainbows from you in the past years. Do you also carry morel or were they talkin out of their butts ? Anyways, Do you have any info on these? I know im going to end up returning them but am now curious about these speakers since morel doesnt even have any information on them.

LGK
06-25-2009, 06:24 AM
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i170/WantedRawb/CTS/vstereoparts010.jpg

is it just me or is that tweeter in the bottom left damaged?

krainium
06-25-2009, 03:48 PM
Here is a link where a Morel rep responded:
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413564&page=2

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 09:15 PM
Just got home from work... Crazy stuff. So we have ones with different tweeters then? Wonder how much different they sound.

HypnoticCure
06-25-2009, 10:27 PM
Ok, so I just got off the phone with David at woofersetc. He was nice about the situation. agreed to take these speakers back and exchange them for regular tempos. Of course i get to pay shipping back to them and $30 per set to upgrade but eh.... I suppose itll be a touch more then the price i anticipated but i will be happy in the end with the normal tempo line. Ill update when i get the others in!

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 10:38 PM
Hmmm, ****. I really don't want to mess with it, but do you think you could pm me his number too man?

ngsm13
06-25-2009, 10:50 PM
******. Never buy from them.

nG

HypnoticCure
06-25-2009, 10:51 PM
They seem to have 1000 numbers. A new number every time they call. Just send them a pm with your number and they will call you pretty fast. I dunno if these arent as good of quality or anything. No one has had a chance to test them out really but i didnt want to be the one to test it in my cadillac...

douglas.leejr
06-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Those X-overs are the exact same as the PG RSD X-overs.

michaellane
06-25-2009, 11:04 PM
id say they are 100% real. i wouldnt send them back. attleast try them out man

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 11:26 PM
Those X-overs are the exact same as the PG RSD X-overs.

Hope not.

hornedfrog1985
06-25-2009, 11:43 PM
I feel kinda jipped honestly. They will give you the tempo 6 for 30$ more, plus you pay shipping to send them back. That's like paying what they are on the site. woowie...

Hoodlum007
06-26-2009, 12:03 AM
My buddy has those same Tempo6's with the new tweeter and like i said in another post they sound awesome. The guy at Morel says they sound exactly the same as the other tweeters and the only thing that is different is the size of them.

hornedfrog1985
06-26-2009, 12:06 AM
He didn't say they sounded exactly the same, and he said the main difference was the tweeter. "main" is pretty open ended.

Hoodlum007
06-26-2009, 02:31 AM
He didn't say they sounded exactly the same, and he said the main difference was the tweeter. "main" is pretty open ended.

The midrange driver and crossovers are the same on both sets but the tweeters are a bit smaller on the X set from what the dude from Morel told me. I personally do not care what size the tweeter is as long as it has the Morel name on it i know it will rock. :)

hornedfrog1985
06-26-2009, 08:57 AM
I guess if they are the same I will give them a go. I'm gonna call them later

ninobrn99
06-26-2009, 03:35 PM
please post up if you test them out. I'd be willing to get a set of they sound great.

carguy83
06-26-2009, 04:12 PM
good thing you have that issue worked out. i always buy from an authorized dealer just for the peace of mind that i'm getting a legit product. plus if there are any warranty issues...i know i'll be taken care of.

HypnoticCure
06-26-2009, 07:59 PM
I have dealt with woofers etc many many many times. They have always been really nice and fair. I'm sure they are legit at this point but i also didnt want to be a test subject. I would rather the tried and true tempo set. There is a reason this set msrp is $100 lower....

ninobrn99
06-27-2009, 09:10 PM
has anyone tested these or were they all returned?

hornedfrog1985
06-28-2009, 12:55 AM
I ran mine on my home stereo, but I don't have the gear ready to install them in my car. They sound pretty decent to me, but obviously they will be a lot different in the car. I don't think the 50 dollars more for a different tweeter is probably worth it (for a nicer tweeter). If you're going to spend $50 more. you might as well spend $150, and get the dotechs.

HypnoticCure
07-03-2009, 07:25 PM
Got my normal Tempo 6's today. Came with the authentication card thing n everything. The tweeter defiantly looks and feels quite different. The regular 6 tweet is heavier feeling and more solid. The 6x felt kind of like plastic and cheaper. I didn’t listen to the 6x tweet so I can’t comment on sq of it just the look and feel. I am defiantly happier paying $30 more per set for these. I know there is nothing scientific there at all but woofersetc did take care of me and handled it quite well when they could of hung me out to dry easily.

magliteman
07-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Nice to see woofersetc took good care of you.....I plan on buying from them soon.

Louisiana_CRX
07-05-2009, 04:52 PM
pics of new crossover

6spdcoupe
07-05-2009, 04:55 PM
Nice to see woofersetc took good care of you.....I plan on buying from them soon.

So, even with what was said here about whether they are authorized or not, the fact that their source has been cut and every other factor about them, you will still purchase from there ?

Wow, I guess ignorance IS bliss !

G.W.Kush
07-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Got my normal Tempo 6's today. Came with the authentication card thing n everything. The tweeter defiantly looks and feels quite different. The regular 6 tweet is heavier feeling and more solid. The 6x felt kind of like plastic and cheaper. I didn’t listen to the 6x tweet so I can’t comment on sq of it just the look and feel. I am defiantly happier paying $30 more per set for these. I know there is nothing scientific there at all but woofersetc did take care of me and handled it quite well when they could of hung me out to dry easily.

nice

HypnoticCure
07-05-2009, 05:16 PM
pics of new crossover

No new xover that i am aware of... The change in the 6 and 6x is only the tweeter i believe.