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da box king
06-23-2009, 12:40 AM
Well I'm gonna recone the HD3 to a 10" it looks like. Got my crossfire to throw at it. I hear they can take 4k daily. Would be nice to play lows daily, but maybe we will save that for another box.

Lookin to just get a sick score from a ten. Will be goin in my trailblazer. Was thinkin 1 cube with 6" aero. Sub up with port back on the passanger side.

Whose knows their **** bout these...

Lakota
06-23-2009, 12:59 AM
The aluminum coils can only handle that kind of power for a short period of time. Just be careful with music.

da box king
06-23-2009, 01:10 AM
The aluminum coils can only handle that kind of power for a short period of time. Just be careful with music.

DJ was sayin that the hd3 was only offered in copper last I talked to him

I can lower the gain for daily, but set to 4k during metering. Should be able to handle it for 30 sec

inkfx
06-23-2009, 01:25 AM
He probably thought you were talking about the HDC3.

I guess the HD3s were copper only?

da box king
06-23-2009, 01:28 AM
He probably thought you were talking about the HDC3.

I guess the HD3s were copper only?

idk, I dont see why they could not be alum when they are hand built to order

Lakota
06-23-2009, 01:36 AM
I'm so used to seeing HDC3 threads that I didn't realize it's a HD3. Just use good judgement. If you start to smell coil, turn the volume down.

da box king
06-23-2009, 09:21 AM
I'm so used to seeing HDC3 threads that I didn't realize it's a HD3. Just use good judgement. If you start to smell coil, turn the volume down.

;) yeah. I'm thinkin and have heard that the hd3 will take the power better than the hdc3. The hdc3's copper coil soft parts were hurting me. The coil was fine off 2-2500, but I kept maxing its x max out for daily.

The hd3 has an alum soft parts setup, with all the spiders together

Skip01
06-23-2009, 09:30 AM
Go smaller. .5 to .7 and 2 4in aeros external.

Sub facing pass side port back

Should be able to do a pretty decent number, 46ish legal prolly.

da box king
06-23-2009, 10:00 AM
Go smaller. .5 to .7 and 2 4in aeros external.

Sub facing pass side port back

Should be able to do a pretty decent number, 46ish legal prolly.

cool, cool. I was thinkin of somethin along the lines of .75, but **** .5?

There will be more port volume, than box, lol. And what about 1 6" aero, vs 2 4"?

also do you mean face the sub to the right (passanger side of the car?) Or sub up?

da box king
06-23-2009, 10:34 AM
Moar

SPLluminator
06-23-2009, 10:40 AM
Ik on 3k some people were getting some luck with a 1.25cu box with a 6in aero. But as stated above, you may have to go a bit smaller because of the large amount of power. And thorshammer was throwing 5k to each of his but he ended up needing aluminum coils. Also, check out my thread, it is extremely similar to yours;)

Edit: Exact qoute,

I've had luck with about 1.25ft^3 net and a single 6" aeroport(external). We've competed/tested this box in two different Blazers on different power. First Blazer did 143.8db on a 1500w amp at 1ohm in competition. Second Blazer did 148.4db on two 1500w amps strapped at 1ohm in testing. Scores were done with TL sensor on passenger windshield cars sealed.


ALOHA FROM HAWAII,

SKY

da box king
06-23-2009, 10:53 AM
Ik on 3k some people were getting some luck with a 1.25cu box with a 6in aero. But as stated above, you may have to go a bit smaller because of the large amount of power. And thorshammer was throwing 5k to each of his but he ended up needing aluminum coils. Also, check out my thread, it is extremely similar to yours;)

Edit: Exact qoute,

Yeah I saw your thread too. Wasn't sure what the diff between the hd3 and hdc3 would be tho. I'm thinkin of doin 1 6" aero over 2 4".

Not sure if I can get alum coil for the hd3, maybe DJ will chime in. Thought he told me only copper b4

SPLluminator
06-23-2009, 10:57 AM
Im sure it will take it. Ik for sure itll do it on burps. But for daily you prolly wouldnt be able to give it an entire 4k. Im getting a 40.1 and ill be running it on mine at .5 for burps(a single one) lol.

da box king
06-23-2009, 11:03 AM
Im sure it will take it. Ik for sure itll do it on burps. But for daily you prolly wouldnt be able to give it an entire 4k. Im getting a 40.1 and ill be running it on mine at .5 for burps(a single one) lol.

should be interesting to compare

SPLluminator
06-23-2009, 11:04 AM
should be interesting to compare

Youll be louder. Ill be in a trunk:crying:

We shall meet up tho. Where is portland? Nvm, not quite to lansing. so prolly like a 50min drive. Not bad.

da box king
06-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Youll be louder. Ill be in a trunk:crying:

We shall meet up tho. Where is portland?

Like half way 17 miles from lansing right off 96....GR is about 35 min from me. Portland is right between the 2 cities on 96

da box king
06-23-2009, 11:10 AM
Youll be louder. Ill be in a trunk:crying:

We shall meet up tho. Where is portland? Nvm, not quite to lansing. so prolly like a 50min drive. Not bad.

and I don't know about louder, if you seal off yur trunk and point towards the cab you could do very well. And I'm pretty sure all my deadening hurt me, on top of it seams like trailblazers are tough to break 150 with the usual 150 setup

da box king
06-23-2009, 11:45 AM
Out for a bit...will check back lata

Skip01
06-23-2009, 11:57 AM
I wanna take on this challenge.

My 1 10" SDC and 2 2200 vs ur HD3.

Show ya how to do it, ha

SPL140.2
06-23-2009, 12:05 PM
Ik on 3k some people were getting some luck with a 1.25cu box with a 6in aero. But as stated above, you may have to go a bit smaller because of the large amount of power. And thorshammer was throwing 5k to each of his but he ended up needing aluminum coils. Also, check out my thread, it is extremely similar to yours;)

Edit: Exact qoute,

1.25 cub ft with 6" aero externally depending upon your tone. I had the copper coils on the HD3's and about 12k on them because of my electrical and they took it like a champ for burps. Id shoot for around 1 cub and external aeros if your tuning is higher than 55hz. I miss those subs :crying:

SPLluminator
06-23-2009, 12:24 PM
and I don't know about louder, if you seal off yur trunk and point towards the cab you could do very well. And I'm pretty sure all my deadening hurt me, on top of it seams like trailblazers are tough to break 150 with the usual 150 setup

Idk, my car doesnt like to be sealed off. Ima try something secret with the luminator tho, you shall see:hide:

da box king
06-23-2009, 01:24 PM
I wanna take on this challenge.

My 1 10" SDC and 2 2200 vs ur HD3.

Show ya how to do it, ha

haha yur on. I know you've played with yur explorer a lot...but gonna be interesting:p:

da box king
06-23-2009, 01:26 PM
1.25 cub ft with 6" aero externally depending upon your tone. I had the copper coils on the HD3's and about 12k on them because of my electrical and they took it like a champ for burps. Id shoot for around 1 cub and external aeros if your tuning is higher than 55hz. I miss those subs :crying:

My last box had my car peaking at 40 hz, not sure if it will stay close with more airspace

wonder what I should tune the box too? def going with an aero

da box king
06-23-2009, 01:27 PM
Idk, my car doesnt like to be sealed off. Ima try something secret with the luminator tho, you shall see:hide:

cool dat

da box king
06-23-2009, 03:00 PM
who else wants to challenge?

da box king
06-23-2009, 09:06 PM
bump

mazdakid
06-23-2009, 10:54 PM
i would but my hd3 is a 12

da box king
06-23-2009, 11:07 PM
^bet that talon could get loud easy

SPLluminator
06-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Im in. Im sure ill do horribly but wth. I dont care. Its more for the fun of it.

bones22
06-24-2009, 12:22 AM
you should just sell it to me

l7runner
06-24-2009, 12:37 AM
I'm about to try something similar.

10" Mach 5 SPL motored hybrid, alum coils
on a DD Z1

thinking about 1.15 cubes with 1 4" aero. I just know that a 6" aero would be too long for my tuning

da box king
06-24-2009, 12:52 AM
I'm about to try something similar.

10" Mach 5 SPL motored hybrid, alum coils
on a DD Z1

thinking about 1.15 cubes with 1 4" aero. I just know that a 6" aero would be too long for my tuning

thats gonna be nice:cool:

iwearpro
06-24-2009, 01:12 AM
Im doin 1 DD95Z10 of of two Sundown SAZ3000'S daisy chained for burps in 1.6 cubes after with 2 4" aeros....Ill let ya know once I fire it up and test on my term..

da box king
06-24-2009, 01:17 AM
Im doin 1 DD95Z10 of of two Sundown SAZ3000'S daisy chained for burps in 1.6 cubes after with 2 4" aeros....Ill let ya know once I fire it up and test on my term..

:wow:
that's cheating:eek:....but ****

do you guys think I should do 1 6" aero or 2 4"?

d-REW
06-24-2009, 01:18 AM
what happend to the 15's?

da box king
06-24-2009, 01:54 AM
what happend to the 15's?

not my cup of tea I guess. Copper suspension was not good for what I needed, so BIGPIMPIN on hear picked em up.

Lakota
06-24-2009, 03:15 AM
Go smaller. .5 to .7 and 2 4in aeros external.

Sub facing pass side port back

Should be able to do a pretty decent number, 46ish legal prolly.

Should do about 149's legal. That's what we was doing with a single HDC315, and I'm sure if we worked harder we could have gotten more out of it.

SPLluminator
06-24-2009, 12:37 PM
not my cup of tea I guess. Copper suspension was not good for what I needed, so BIGPIMPIN on hear picked em up.

I woulda trade my two + cash for yours. I wanna wall my car. To late i guess tho.

thorshammer1
06-24-2009, 01:35 PM
1.25 cub ft with 6" aero externally depending upon your tone. I had the copper coils on the HD3's and about 12k on them because of my electrical and they took it like a champ for burps. Id shoot for around 1 cub and external aeros if your tuning is higher than 55hz. I miss those subs :crying:

x2 Not many here would know more than Egg.


IMO the HD3's took the daily beatings better than the HDC's off similar power. Only concern would be the cone. They tend to fold at 5k or so. Maybe some resin on the back would help.

The gap on the HD3's is diff. than the HDC's. Hence the no aluminum option for the HD3's. Thier are no aluminum coils laying around that will fit the HD3's.

da box king
06-24-2009, 02:00 PM
I woulda trade my two + cash for yours. I wanna wall my car. To late i guess tho.

ouch dang, the coil packs blew apart on em tho. Just had to glue the top spider down and they are now good to go. One ripped near the former, but glue fixed that as well

da box king
06-24-2009, 02:02 PM
x2 Not many here would know more than Egg.


IMO the HD3's took the daily beatings better than the HDC's off similar power. Only concern would be the cone. They tend to fold at 5k or so. Maybe some resin on the back would help.

The gap on the HD3's is diff. than the HDC's. Hence the no aluminum option for the HD3's. Thier are no aluminum coils laying around that will fit the HD3's.

I talked to DJ already. I dont like the original hd3/dd cone....so when I recone we will use the hdc3 carbon fiber cone, and a new updated dustcap. Wonder how that will change the specs. Maybe lighter?