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Rasterman
06-19-2009, 01:34 AM
The two systems I'm looking at. My main concern is which speakers are generally better? And if I have the imprint done for an Alpine system can that make a huge difference? Any other comments?

$175 Alpine CDA-105 Receiver w/ ipod & Imprint
$135 Alpine Type-R SPR-17S 6.5 Front Components
$95 Alpine SPR-69C 6x9 Rear Speakers
$120 Alpine KTP-445 Amp 50W x 4 RMS
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$525

$190 Pioneer DEH-P6100BT CD Receiver w/ ipod & bluetooth
$224 Pioneer TS-C720PRS 6.75 Front Components
$87 Pioneer TS-D902P 6x9 Rear Speakers
$120 Pioneer GM-6400F Amp 60W x 4 RMS
$25 Pioneer CD SR100 Steering Wheel Remote control
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$646

Alpine4life89
06-19-2009, 01:35 AM
the alpine system is better, but the pioneer comps are probably better.

pioneer amps = poop

bigaudiofanati2
06-19-2009, 01:36 AM
Alpine plain and simple

speedfreak28
06-19-2009, 02:08 AM
Depends on your goals really, pioneer componts over alpine all day. The PRS are the best set I can think of for 250. The headunits are a tossup and basically revolves around ur ergonomic preference.

Rasterman
06-19-2009, 11:30 AM
Goal is SQ. Does having the IMPRINT done for alpine make a big difference?

ejschultz
06-19-2009, 02:39 PM
The two systems I'm looking at. My main concern is which speakers are generally better? And if I have the imprint done for an Alpine system can that make a huge difference? Any other comments?

$175 Alpine CDA-105 Receiver w/ ipod & Imprint
$135 Alpine Type-R SPR-17S 6.5 Front Components
$95 Alpine SPR-69C 6x9 Rear Speakers
$120 Alpine KTP-445 Amp 50W x 4 RMS
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$525

$190 Pioneer DEH-P6100BT CD Receiver w/ ipod & bluetooth
$224 Pioneer TS-C720PRS 6.75 Front Components
$87 Pioneer TS-D902P 6x9 Rear Speakers
$120 Pioneer GM-6400F Amp 60W x 4 RMS
$25 Pioneer CD SR100 Steering Wheel Remote control
----
$646

Pioneer 6100, Pioneer components, Alpine 6x9s (I had those at one point and they give some pretty good bass if you're not doing a sub), and the Alpine amp. That's what I'd do for what you're looking at. When I started in audio, I wanted all my brands to match. Some brands are better at some things than others so matching to me isn't too important anymore. What type of car is this going in?

ejschultz
06-19-2009, 02:41 PM
Goal is SQ. Does having the IMPRINT done for alpine make a big difference?

I've never used the Imprint kit they offer. I've heard some mixed reviews about it.

JeepBeats96JGC
06-19-2009, 08:44 PM
swap the 720prs 6 3/4 for the Pioneer Premier TS-D720C (still wayyy better than the alpine's) and upgrade the GM-6400f amp for the Pioneer Premier PRS-D4100F.

link to speakers: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=19145


link to amp: http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17894

gunz4me
06-19-2009, 11:22 PM
The Alpine Type R 6.5s aren't that bad, but, they were the "best" option that I could find at the time for my dang door panels. I tried other speakers, but they were either too deep or too big to fit in the stock location behind the grills in a 97 Civic. I wasn't in the mood to perform heavy modifications just to make the speakers look as if they belonged there for a friggin econobox.

From what I have heard, the Pioneer 720PRS speakers have a much better midbass than my Type Rs BUT I find the Pioneer tweeter to be harsher than the SPR-17Ss delivered tweeter.

viperrgh2
06-20-2009, 02:52 AM
Pioneer D series comps over Alpine type Rs any day, I have heard both in many different setups. Alpine Type R subwoofer better then a pioneer champ but alpines more money..I'd rather have the champ pro for $10-20 more then the Type R.. champ pro is 1000rms. Alpine amps are better but more pricey I'd look into amps and go with the best options there not just to match your speakers. Head unit the pioneer typically I find has more tuneing options compared to the more expensive Alpine which seems to just always sound better but both sound good regardless...I personally prefer pioneer I find them easier to use and cheaper...

pyfocal
06-20-2009, 03:04 PM
Just took a Pioneer 5800 out of my wifes car and put in an Alpine CDA 105.A big difference in SQ and you don't need a cable for the Ipod-you can use the white Apple cable that comes with it.It seems to be built much better also and a very nice display.It played everything I stuck into the USB connection-even my Iphone and an old Ipod.I would rate it much better than the Pioneer.