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Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 12:13 AM
Alright so i have been convinced that a good front stage would be good enough for an entire vehicle.

Its a large, old vehicle and i dont know **** about components.

For around $350 what 6.5's would you buy new?

Millertime1028
06-17-2009, 12:19 AM
Pioneer PRS's and then buy deadener with the left over money :-)

misfit138
06-17-2009, 12:26 AM
Rockford Fosgate T152S 5.25" components for $99 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-5-25-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-T152S_W0QQitemZ220430897627QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_ Speakers?hash=item3352b491db&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1234%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I know they're 5.25"s, but that deal is ridiculous. Save up $50 and pick up 4 of the suckers. That'll yield WAY better results than 1 set of 6.5"s, and it'll open up a whole different level of options for your sound staging.

That's my opinion...

KOL
06-17-2009, 12:30 AM
Pioneer PRS's and then buy deadener with the left over money :-)

:word::iagree:

basebalz13
06-17-2009, 12:32 AM
http://www.vertexaudio.com/store/pc/CDT-Audio-CL-62CF-6-5-Carbon-Fiber-Component-Set-30p12.htm

i have one set left forsale, for 199 shipped

save ya some money :)

Litunerkid
06-17-2009, 12:33 AM
:word::iagree:

this lol

Sarthos
06-17-2009, 12:37 AM
ebay some Alpine Type X speakers, I hear they're real good.

RowJoe
06-17-2009, 12:41 AM
Rockford Fosgate T152S 5.25" components for $99 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-5-25-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-T152S_W0QQitemZ220430897627QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCar_ Speakers?hash=item3352b491db&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1234%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

I know they're 5.25"s, but that deal is ridiculous. Save up $50 and pick up 4 of the suckers. That'll yield WAY better results than 1 set of 6.5"s, and it'll open up a whole different level of options for your sound staging.

That's my opinion...

The Pioneer PRS set is one of the most highly-regarded component sets today in any price range, and it's a steal at ~$250. One good set of amplified components + good install = enough for one car, unless it's going to be a SPL monster.

I'd probably try this set, even though it is well under your budget.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17121_Precision+Power+PPI+356CS.html

Litunerkid
06-17-2009, 12:43 AM
that ppi set is nice for $ also.waiting for an in depth review on em if they are truly like the a/d/s.

misfit138
06-17-2009, 12:49 AM
I guess you don't realize the Pioneer PRS set is one of the most highly-regarded component sets today in any price range, and it's a steal at ~$250. One good set of amplified components + good install = enough for one car, unless it's going to be a SPL monster.

I'd probably try this set, even though it is well under your budget.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17121_Precision+Power+PPI+356CS.html

No, I'm aware of the Pioneer comps. I'm just under the impression that $99 shipped for the RFs is a fantastic deal. Honestly, those RF comps are good enough for Steve Meade, dude.

1 set of comps being "enough for one car" is a matter of opinion, man. But I'm not trying to argue about this. I was only pointing out something that I think is a steal for $100. We've all got different opinions...

Also, the 6.5" RE XXX, Rainbow SLC 6.5", and pretty much anything CDT makes are awesome. I hear the Digital Designs DDA-W's are beastly too...

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 12:51 AM
Well under budget is good! :D

i was looking at Rainbow's and CDT's...

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 12:54 AM
The only reason i said one set is because i probably cant afford a powerful 4 channel.

I would really love to find a good used 100.4

Sarthos
06-17-2009, 12:55 AM
ebay some Alpine Type X speakers, I hear they're real good.

RowJoe
06-17-2009, 12:57 AM
No, I'm aware of the Pioneer comps. I'm just under the impression that $99 shipped for the RFs is a fantastic deal. Honestly, those RF comps are good enough for Steve Meade, dude.

1 set of comps being "enough for one car" is a matter of opinion, man. But I'm not trying to argue about this. I was only pointing out something that I think is a steal for $100. We've all got different opinions...

I couldn't care less about what Steve Meade uses. Anyway, just stick to one set. It'll be much easier to tune and a lot less work. Should still sound pretty nice, though.

misfit138
06-17-2009, 01:00 AM
The only reason i said one set is because i probably cant afford a powerful 4 channel.

I would really love to find a good used 100.4

Oh, I see. Given those circumstances, my recommendation is completely out the window.

I make too many assumptions, I suppose. Some people aren't running big a$$ setups. If you're running a pair of 12"s, you can easily get by with one set of comps (unless your subs are ungodly)...

misfit138
06-17-2009, 01:01 AM
I couldn't care less about what Steve Meade uses. Anyway, just stick to one set. It'll be much easier to tune and a lot less work. Should still sound pretty nice, though.

Dude, why are you being so argumentative with me? I'm not trying to be a ****, and the only reason I mentioned Meade is because most car audio guys have heard of him...

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 01:08 AM
(unless your subs are ungodly)...

They are lmao:D

2 DD 9512g's dual 2ohm extra stiff suspension(8 spiders) z coils, kevlar comp. cone with carbon fiber over lay, Carbon Fiber (6.5in.)dust cap, and 80mm xmax

Spent all of my money on them and now can't get the comps i wanted :crap:

misfit138
06-17-2009, 01:15 AM
They are lmao:D

2 DD 9512g's dual 2ohm extra stiff suspension(8 spiders) z coils, kevlar comp. cone with carbon fiber over lay, Carbon Fiber (6.5in.)dust cap, and 80mm xmax

Spent all of my money on them and now can't get the comps i wanted :crap:

NICE!

Dude, you can always pick up more comps later if you're not satisfied with only one set.

I'd look into the RE XXX 6.5"s, man. They're very nice, and being 2 Ohms will save you some cash when buying an amp...

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 01:23 AM
Yeah i was thinking about them! But theyre $400 :crap:

and i guess my subs arent ungodly compared to some of the people on here! But they're more than good enough for me!

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 01:41 AM
No more suggestions or comments??

Echo42987
06-17-2009, 01:49 AM
Boston Acoustics Pro60

Can be had for a great price on ebay usually. And that is your final destination. Beats all of the above suggestions.

Hoodlum007
06-17-2009, 06:34 AM
Rainbow SLC265 Kicks
Image Dynamics CXS 62v2's
CDT Euro ES620's

EricM9104
06-17-2009, 06:40 AM
Hertz HSK165's
Eclipse SC6500

FJF
06-17-2009, 08:08 AM
If it were my money, I'd buy Boston Pro60s.

krainium
06-17-2009, 08:19 AM
I went with morel tempo 6 components and I love them.

jerseyboy
06-17-2009, 08:52 AM
The Pioneer PRS set is one of the most highly-regarded component sets today in any price range, and it's a steal at ~$250. One good set of amplified components + good install = enough for one car, unless it's going to be a SPL monster.

I'd probably try this set, even though it is well under your budget.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_17121_Precision+Power+PPI+356CS.html


I hear about ppl putting 150rms per side with these even though the specs say only 60 per side. is that true?

FJF
06-17-2009, 09:33 AM
I hear about ppl putting 150rms per side with these even though the specs say only 60 per side. is that true?

FWIW, I'm feeding my Polk SRs with ~400wpc, even though they're rated for 125. The rating, itself, is largely irrelevant. It's the position of the volume knob that counts.

amartin_72
06-17-2009, 10:12 AM
parts express build your own.

misfit138
06-17-2009, 02:40 PM
Yeah i was thinking about them! But theyre $400 :crap:

and i guess my subs arent ungodly compared to some of the people on here! But they're more than good enough for me!

The RE XXX 6.5"s for $280 shipped. I've bought from these guys (audio savings) several times, and I've never been disappointed. They're reputable, and they have great prices on RE equipment.

http://www.audiosavings.com/products/2-NEW-RE-AUDIO-XXX6.5C-6.5-COMPONENT-SPEAKERS-XXX-6.5C.gef20dbf9-b90e-4525-a913-6f118cc93e16.r.aspx

got-one-eight
06-17-2009, 03:33 PM
FWIW, I'm feeding my Polk SRs with ~400wpc, even though they're rated for 125. The rating, itself, is largely irrelevant. It's the position of the volume knob that counts.

HAHA.... awesome.... I like your style.

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 03:37 PM
at this point i'm deciding between Rainbow SLC265, RE XXX, and the PPI 356CS *(cus the price)

I have been offered Morel Tempo 6's and Hertz HSK165 that i am thinking about, but i dont know much of either company!

KyleBechtold
06-17-2009, 03:43 PM
ID xs65s if you can find em

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 03:44 PM
I have also previously been referred to DD Comps and the Pioneer Premier TS-C720PRS

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 03:47 PM
ID xs65s if you can find em


http://www.woofersetc.com/p6201/CTX65CS--Image-Dynamics-65"-Component-Speaker-System.htm????

i dont think thats them though... the XS-65 is $480 :crap:

KyleBechtold
06-17-2009, 03:48 PM
http://www.woofersetc.com/p6201/CTX65CS--Image-Dynamics-65"-Component-Speaker-System.htm????

xS65s

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 03:57 PM
xS65s

i know, i can read. It was more of a question about them, because the xs-65 which you told me to get are way out of my budget. So maybe you cant read my budget.http://www.woofersetc.com/p5712/XS65--Image-Dynamics-65"-2-Way-Component-System.htm

Savstyle
06-17-2009, 03:57 PM
rainbow germs

285+shipping

from me

YGPM

KyleBechtold
06-17-2009, 03:59 PM
i know, i can read. It was more of a question about them, because the xs-65 which you told me to get are way out of my budget. So maybe you cant read my budget.http://www.woofersetc.com/p5712/XS65--Image-Dynamics-65"-2-Way-Component-System.htm

you wanting brand new only? thats why i was saying if you can find them used..

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 04:12 PM
you wanting brand new only? thats why i was saying if you can find them used..

ohh alright. Yes, as stated i would like new. but only cus i want the warranty with them.:(

Savstyle
06-17-2009, 04:24 PM
ohh alright. Yes, as stated i would like new. but only cus i want the warranty with them.:(

take care of your speakers and you wont have to use the warranty

save yourself some money

and buy my germs

Savag3
06-17-2009, 04:35 PM
Rainbow CS260.30 Reference

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 05:41 PM
Rainbow CS260.30 Reference

awesome help:rolleyes:

RowJoe
06-17-2009, 05:43 PM
take care of your speakers and you wont have to use the warrany.

Not true.

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 06:56 PM
has anybody used the DD components?

1hawaii50
06-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Can't go wrong with Morel's. I've got the Dotech Ovation 6's and I love them. I'm feeding them 350w per side.

Vwbuskid
06-17-2009, 09:49 PM
JBL C608GTi-mkII?

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 04:44 PM
bump

EuphoricBass247
06-18-2009, 05:03 PM
PIONEER PRS as stated many timesss :-)

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 07:47 PM
are the pioneers really that good?

headless
06-18-2009, 07:57 PM
to really match those subs you need to spend a reasonable amount of money on a front stage amplifier and component set. That means a couple channels at 300w and a set of beefy *** components like rainbow power line CS or equivalent...i'd look at boston accoustics if the budget doesn't allow you to spring for the power line cs, but only if you do have the power to really push them. I don't understand why people keep thinking they can spend so little on their frontstage (which plays everything from 80hz to 20k) and expect it to match up with a substage (that only plays a couple octaves, 10-80hz) that costs 5 times as much, if not more. What are those 9512's, 700 each? cmon.

magliteman
06-18-2009, 10:15 PM
awesome help:rolleyes:

Way to bump your post numbers ;)

oldschoolboomer
06-18-2009, 10:19 PM
JBL C608GTi-mkII?

I've been looking at those lately. They are supposed to be super duper ultra awesome to the max.

RowJoe
06-18-2009, 10:32 PM
The GTIs are pretty nice. They seem power hungry, though. My friend has them installed, about 75w RMS per side. Smooth tweet and respectable midbass for an install that lacks deadening and front stage power. Not bad for the money.

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 10:45 PM
Spent all of my money on them and now can't get the comps i wanted :crap:


to really match those subs you need to spend a reasonable amount of money on a front stage amplifier and component set. That means a couple channels at 300w and a set of beefy *** components like rainbow power line CS or equivalent...i'd look at boston accoustics if the budget doesn't allow you to spring for the power line cs, but only if you do have the power to really push them. I don't understand why people keep thinking they can spend so little on their frontstage (which plays everything from 80hz to 20k) and expect it to match up with a substage (that only plays a couple octaves, 10-80hz) that costs 5 times as much, if not more. What are those 9512's, 700 each? cmon.


if you read my previous post, which i supplied to you, i said i spent all of the available money on the subwoofers and was unable to get the comps i wanted, which i regret. I had enough money for the comps, but now the restoration of the vehicle became more pricey because of complications, disabling me to get the correct comps.

I was planning on purchasing two sets of either Focal Polyglass 165 VR3 or JL Audio ZR650-Csi, which in my opinion are pretty dang nice.

So honestly i don't need some random dude being so condescending on me, you aren't my father.

Ohh and by the way, the DD cost $1040 a piece new, i bought them very lightly used, and one last thing. I am 16 and this is my first system. No i am not rich, i have worked for the last 2 years after school and during the summers for my restoration and system.

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 10:52 PM
Thank-you to everyone who has actually helped, been nice, and knowledgeable.

I appreciate it very much!

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 11:00 PM
I've been looking at those lately. They are supposed to be super duper ultra awesome to the max.

Sarcasm?

Vwbuskid
06-18-2009, 11:08 PM
Way to bump your post numbers ;)

Way to bump yours lmao:thumbupw:

ronny.brite
06-18-2009, 11:11 PM
I was going to recommend Morel Ovation's, but couldn't find them anywhere under $400. So my 2nd choice would be these Focals.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_091165A1/Focal-Access-165-A1.html?tp=106

Only $299.99, or for $50 less, these Alpines.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_500SPR17S/Alpine-SPR-17S.html?tp=106

devin1231
06-18-2009, 11:15 PM
i just installed 2 sets of Tempo 6's in my tahoe and love them, they sound great and tons of mid bass! they sound great all together and are worth the money.

headless
06-19-2009, 12:28 AM
if you read my previous post, which i supplied to you, i said i spent all of the available money on the subwoofers and was unable to get the comps i wanted, which i regret. I had enough money for the comps, but now the restoration of the vehicle became more pricey because of complications, disabling me to get the correct comps.

Yes, I did read your previous post, which is why i wrote mine. You spent all of your money elsewhere, and now expect to get a fronstage setup that matches your multi-thousand dollar subwoofer system for under 350$ with how much wattage total being pushed to them??


I was planning on purchasing two sets of either Focal Polyglass 165 VR3 or JL Audio ZR650-Csi, which in my opinion are pretty dang nice.

So honestly i don't need some random dude being so condescending on me, you aren't my father.

Great. So go buy them; don't post a thread asking about it here, then be whiny when someone gives you an honest answer. You may not want to hear that you are being unreasonable in your expectations, but that's how it is; deal with it.

I don't need to be your father to tell you my opinion. You ****ing ASKED for it by making this thread. Grow a pair of balls and stop being a little ***** because you hear something you don't like. And BTW, just because someone is informing you that you've done something wrong doesn't mean they are being condescending. My last post was in no way condescending. Did i say 'poor little boy, you spent all your money on new subwoofer toys because you're too dumb to realise you need new speakers'? No. I just informed you that you're being unreasonable in your expectations. If you go used, you might find a set of decent comps that can hold their own with your sub setup, but most likely if you go new you will need to spend above 400$ to get close to keeping up with those subs at full tilt. You'll be able to HEAR them...they'll just be getting thrashed by those subs to the point you can only hear the treble.



Ohh and by the way, the DD cost $1040 a piece new, i bought them very lightly used, and one last thing. I am 16 and this is my first system. No i am not rich, i have worked for the last 2 years after school and during the summers for my restoration and system.

Good stuff. Congratulations on saving for so long; that's not a small feat. Now save some more and get your frontstage right the first time, or buy something that you think is 'pretty dang nice' and deal with that until you can afford the correct solution. You spent almost 2,000$ on subs plus amplifier cost, but now you don't want to to spend more than 400$ on some components to match your setup.

If you want to deal with a 4 channel amp pushing 2 sets of speakers, or bridging a 2 channel amp (ugh) to 2 sets of speakers, enjoy the sound of cancellation and a shittily imaged soundstage. If that's what you want, just go do it and quit asking for advice that you don't want to hear.

Then again, judging by how you've thus far chosen to spend your money, you probably are still in the 16 year old 'what? you mean my stereo plays music AND bass?' stage where you can't hear the difference between a cymbal and a snare drum anyway. **** it, why do i bother

see that, that's being condescending, you cvntrag. Whine about it some, now you've actually got a reason.

Vwbuskid
06-19-2009, 01:11 AM
Thanks for the advice.

Wish i could afford $1,300 components like you.

I guess i'll just have to deal with my ****** system.

Vwbuskid
06-19-2009, 01:44 AM
you cvntrag.


i really loved that.

once again,

Thank-You

oldschoolboomer
06-19-2009, 09:34 AM
Sarcasm?

no. why would you think sarcasm? one of the winningest sq cars of all time (buick regal btw) uses one set of gti comps as the entire mid and high section. Were you being a douche?

Vwbuskid
06-19-2009, 03:02 PM
no. why would you think sarcasm? one of the winningest sq cars of all time (buick regal btw) uses one set of gti comps as the entire mid and high section. Were you being a douche?


Nope not being a douche! I just didn't know that about them!

Thank-You for the info man

speedfreak28
06-19-2009, 03:04 PM
run 2 sets of the pioneer PRS componets. for 450 total you would be hard pressed to find a single set that does what they do. Buy one set even and give them a try, they resell pretty decent used on here. good luck.

Vwbuskid
06-19-2009, 03:22 PM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_7537_Pioneer+Premier+TS-C720PRS.html

Those?

hornedfrog1985
06-19-2009, 10:53 PM
Rainbow Germaniums, or Morel Dotech Ovations.

Vwbuskid
06-20-2009, 01:53 AM
So DD won't get back to me on pricing on their components
Does anybody know how much they cost?

1hawaii50
06-20-2009, 05:47 AM
Wait a little longer and save up a little more, and just do it once, and do it right. Why spend "a little" money now, when you'll probably end up spending more down the road to get what you really want?

hornedfrog1985
06-20-2009, 10:43 AM
He might be satisfied with less, and knowing he got a good value for his money.

pyfocal
06-20-2009, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the advice.

Wish i could afford $1,300 components like you.

I guess i'll just have to deal with my ****** system.

Your system isn't ****** till you make it that way. I agree with headless-you spent all your money on subs and want a great front stage without spending any money.This won't happen. I see more and more threads just like this and it's frustrating.You should pick up something inexpensive for now and save up for a front stage to equal your sub stage. You will be so much happier in the long run.I speak from experience and I mean no disrespect.When I was 14 I was into dirt bikes(still am even though I am an old man) and I worked at the high school for 2 years and saved all my paychecks in my tool box and got my bike.So I commend you for saving as I know how hard it is.I wish you the best of luck with your system.

headless
06-21-2009, 12:10 PM
Thanks for the advice.

Wish i could afford $1,300 components like you.

I guess i'll just have to deal with my ****** system.

Actually, you and I have probably spent about the same amount on our stereos - you just spent all of your money on subwoofers, whereas I spent an equal amount on each. Why are you acting like 1300$ components (BTW, 1300 is MSRP, they are less than that in reality) are insanely expensive and outside of your league when you spent 2 grand on subs already? :rolleyes: That's my point. 1 set of power line CS would cost as much as ONE of your subwoofers - but you get 2 woofers, 2 tweeters AND 2 crossovers. I'd say 4 ****** speakers and 2 crossovers is worth as much as a single nice sub any day - but I'm not looking for a 150db system, i'm looking for a stereo for playing music that sounds good.

If you want to trade priorities for subwoofers, then that's fine - just don't expect your 300$ components running on 100watts/side to keep up with 2000$ of subs at full tilt.

rockytophigh
06-21-2009, 01:22 PM
I have two sets of Boston Pro 60s. Both are used. I'd part with one set for $150 shipped if you have paypal. Speakers sound great or I wouldn't have a set in two of my vehicles. I cracked a head on my truck and will probably be parting the truck out.

rockytophigh
06-21-2009, 01:29 PM
PM if anyone needs an amp in the sig.....not the Davinci, sorry.

Vwbuskid
06-22-2009, 06:00 AM
Actually, you and I have probably spent about the same amount on our stereos - you just spent all of your money on subwoofers, whereas I spent an equal amount on each. Why are you acting like 1300$ components (BTW, 1300 is MSRP, they are less than that in reality) are insanely expensive and outside of your league when you spent 2 grand on subs already? :rolleyes: That's my point. 1 set of power line CS would cost as much as ONE of your subwoofers - but you get 2 woofers, 2 tweeters AND 2 crossovers. I'd say 4 ****** speakers and 2 crossovers is worth as much as a single nice sub any day - but I'm not looking for a 150db system, i'm looking for a stereo for playing music that sounds good.

If you want to trade priorities for subwoofers, then that's fine - just don't expect your 300$ components running on 100watts/side to keep up with 2000$ of subs at full tilt.

My subs were $1400 for both, found a good deal on some awesome subs and impulsively made a bad move. Didn't think about components, and like I previously stated, was a bad mistake :(

Q: Did you buy your Rainbows local to you or online? If online would you mind informing me where?


PM if anyone needs an amp in the sig.....not the Davinci, sorry.

Thread Jack

But since you did it, how much for the Soundstream Van Gogh 500.4?:)

headless
06-22-2009, 08:17 AM
I got most of my equipment through Don @ unexpected creations - he's 6spdcoupe here on the forums.

rockytophigh
06-22-2009, 12:18 PM
My subs were $1400 for both, found a good deal on some awesome subs and impulsively made a bad move. Didn't think about components, and like I previously stated, was a bad mistake :(

Q: Did you buy your Rainbows local to you or online? If online would you mind informing me where?



Thread Jack

But since you did it, how much for the Soundstream Van Gogh 500.4?:)

Ok, sorry man. More than a couple of people had recommended the Bostons Pros to you & I have two sets so I thought I'd offer. If you find that to be a thread jack.....I'll just keep 'em. Best of luck to you and your $1400 subs.

headless
06-22-2009, 01:14 PM
LOL, this just gets funnier and funnier

FYI, those pro60's would probably be the best you could get and are a good deal @ 150$. You do realise those MRSP'd @ 600$, right? I'd recommend pushing 200+w per side to them to really get them going, though.

Vwbuskid
06-22-2009, 02:27 PM
Ok, sorry man. More than a couple of people had recommended the Bostons Pros to you & I have two sets so I thought I'd offer. If you find that to be a thread jack.....I'll just keep 'em. Best of luck to you and your $1400 subs.

I wasn't saying that to you offering me the Boston's, but to the amp post.
And i don't mind, I even asked how much for the one amp, ended the post with a smiley face, and you got pm'd as well


LOL, this just gets funnier and funnier

I agree.
I don't understand why everything has to be so difficult here on this site? :confused:

Thanks for your help headless and sorry for being a **** earlier on.