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michaellane
06-11-2009, 01:57 PM
well after i won the auction the guy wouldnt respond to any emails i sent him. i got the radio at like 12:45pm today. installed it once i got it and guess what! the cd player wont even play. it took the first Cd like normal but then spit it out. after that i tryed a new Cd and it wont even **** or take the CD's at all. so i just filed my claim with paypal trying to get my money back but they are telling me i would have to pay for return shipping to him. why do i have to spend my money to ship him back something he knew was broke? anyways the auction number is: 300318966682 and his ebay name is : wilerwt HE IS A SCAMMER YOU GUYS.


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michaellane
06-11-2009, 01:59 PM
oh and the radio looks to be in great shape. but i dont know if he even insured the radio or not? in my paypal i sent him a message with my payment saying "do not send my item without insurance. please let me know if you need any more money to insure it."

99grandprixGT
06-11-2009, 02:00 PM
ya that *****. u prob wont get aynthing back from paypal. you got it that all they care.

Shinju
06-11-2009, 02:00 PM
Man you have the worse luck I tell you.


I bet the orignal owner forgot to ship the CD he first used in the deck for the ESN security lock out.

You are ****ed if you do not get that disc, Eclipse will not help you.

michaellane
06-11-2009, 02:05 PM
Man you have the worse luck I tell you.


I bet the orignal owner forgot to ship the CD he first used in the deck for the ESN security lock out.

You are ****ed if you do not get that disc, Eclipse will not help you.

no it says sec lock or something to that effect it u need the CD. i had to put my Cd player back in and had it pop up on mine. his radio acted just like normal. paypal seemed to care that it didnt work. they said if he doesnt respond they will gimmie my money back. but this ***** man.

99grandprixGT
06-11-2009, 02:08 PM
oh well let hope he has money in his account.

AlterEgo99
06-11-2009, 02:10 PM
no it says sec lock or something to that effect it u need the CD. i had to put my Cd player back in and had it pop up on mine. his radio acted just like normal. paypal seemed to care that it didnt work. they said if he doesnt respond they will gimmie my money back. but this ***** man.

I've purchased some amps through eBay from private sellers and just pepper them with a zillion questions before pullin' the trigger...but it is true that for the price sometimes you take your chances. So far, so good...either that or I simply purchase from a powerseller who sells all sorts of car audio. Got most of my speakers that way.

Shinju
06-11-2009, 02:10 PM
no it says sec lock or something to that effect it u need the CD. i had to put my Cd player back in and had it pop up on mine. his radio acted just like normal. paypal seemed to care that it didnt work. they said if he doesnt respond they will gimmie my money back. but this ***** man.



Not sure what you ment, But cool deal on paypal refunding you if it goes though.

michaellane
06-11-2009, 02:18 PM
well from what i understand even if he doesnt have money in his account they will still take the money then he will just be n the negative. and the cd player wasnt locked with a special CD.

ILLCRACKALUV
06-11-2009, 02:23 PM
well from what i understand even if he doesnt have money in his account they will still take the money then he will just be n the negative. and the cd player wasnt locked with a special CD.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: You think paypal gives a **** about 85$ What makes u different from the other 100 of people who get scammed on here for in excess of 500$ sorry bro but more than likely that money is long gone.. You wont be seeing any of it, UNLESS he still has it in his account

michaellane
06-11-2009, 02:26 PM
:laugh::laugh::laugh: You think paypal gives a **** about 85$ What makes u different from the other 100 of people who get scammed on here for in excess of 500$ sorry bro but more than likely that money is long gone.. You wont be seeing any of it, UNLESS he still has it in his account

the rep. told me SINCE it was a ebay auction i am covered 100% for the total purchase price plus shipping. she said if doesnt respond in 4 days to escalate the claim and paypal will gimmie the money. winning off ebay is different than buying stuff off a forum.

here to buy
06-11-2009, 02:28 PM
its only 85 bucks
dont kill yourself over it, put negative feedback if you must,
and take the deck to a local electronics shop and see if they can fix the cd drive

pcolasfinest
06-11-2009, 02:34 PM
the rep. told me SINCE it was a ebay auction i am covered 100% for the total purchase price plus shipping. she said if doesnt respond in 4 days to escalate the claim and paypal will gimmie the money. winning off ebay is different than buying stuff off a forum.

thats what i was told too, got ripped off of 500 bucks, they sided with me and he only had 100 bucks in his paypal, i got that and haven't seen the rest of the money.

michaellane
06-11-2009, 05:56 PM
its only 85 bucks
dont kill yourself over it, put negative feedback if you must,
and take the deck to a local electronics shop and see if they can fix the cd drive

is it easy to fix? it wnt even grab the cd's. you can hear the motor buut it won't take the cd.

michaellane
06-17-2009, 10:48 PM
update: had to make the dispute a claim now since he says he wants me to ship the radio back and after he tests the radio he will issue a refund. i dont want this guy to try to say the radio works and try not to give me my money! so its going to be a claim

TKCARAUDIO
06-17-2009, 10:57 PM
That sux hope you get your $ back good luck

michaellane
06-17-2009, 10:59 PM
^^^ thanks man. im sure i will get it back now. i just didnt want him to try to lie and say it worked. so now even if he says it works ill still get my money back regardless. but i know it was broke beofre he sent it because i told him dont ship it without insurance and he just wrapped it in news paper and no insurance and mailed it :(

nuugen
06-18-2009, 05:26 PM
Ok, the rules for sellers on Ebay are different..A close friend of mine has a company which is a power seller on ebay, and I have my own personal account on Ebay and a Premier Verified account on Paypal..
1) My buddy's company always asks the customer to ship the unit back for testing and to make sure that THEY aren't getting scammed--i.e., someone switching their broken items for our good ones, etc..They have 100% positive feedback (I have the same on my account)--which is really hard to do these days--simply because they TAKE CARE OF THEIR CUSTOMERS...No ifs ands or buts..If the unit arrives as it went out(They take pics and videos of every product), and the customer didn't smoke it by incorrect hookup or forcible damage, they get 100% of their money back no questions asked..
2) If the customer ships the unit back and the seller receives it(make sure it is marked "signature confirmation"), and then the seller doesn't refund it, then Paypal WILL pull the $$$ from their account--they don't even care if this causes the seller's account to go negative..
3) Ebay and Paypal are geared toward customer protection these days, so it shouldn't be hard to get your $$ back..Ebay sellers aren't even allowed to leave neg feedback anymore, only positive or nothing!
4) Always make sure you are buying from a reputable seller, and read their return instructions carefully..

crash9201
06-18-2009, 05:34 PM
thats bs that you cant leave neg. feedback; i tried leaving neg. feedback for the people i got a wiring harness from; it left a nuetral; they have the option but it will be a nueteral feedback.

mcsoul
06-18-2009, 08:42 PM
take a video of it not accepting cd's, show the CD's working somewhere else too. Make sure they are store bought cd's, not burned.

michaellane
06-19-2009, 02:22 AM
take a video of it not accepting cd's, show the CD's working somewhere else too. Make sure they are store bought cd's, not burned.

ya i told him i did this but honestly i didnt. i know it doesnt work. it may have worked before but when he shipped it like crap it got broken during shipping either way his fault

SRim23
06-19-2009, 02:44 AM
:laugh::laugh::laugh: You think paypal gives a **** about 85$ What makes u different from the other 100 of people who get scammed on here for in excess of 500$ sorry bro but more than likely that money is long gone.. You wont be seeing any of it, UNLESS he still has it in his account

luckily now consumer electronics sales on ebay are now being monitored by paypal. paypal holds the funds until proof of delivery (if you upload tracking info to paypal) or until you leave positive feedback. so chances are his funds are still in his account

XTRProBoy
06-19-2009, 12:33 PM
All you guys saying he won't get any money back from PayPal, have you ever bought anything on eBay?

eBay has buyer protection insurance and when you pay with PayPal that insurance is extended such that you don't have to pay the $25 eBay deductible (they refund your full purchase price but not shipping). So if the claim is found in his favour he will get his money back.

I've only ever had to use eBay protection once and that was back before they had the PayPal extended coverage (PayPal wasn't owned by eBay yet, back then). What I bought on that particular occasion I received the item and it was working but it was not the item described, but a lesser model. eBay found in my favour and it got to the point where eBay was going to send me a cheque for the amount minus the $25 deductible but then the seller finally sent me a refund on his own and I sent him back his stuff and let eBay know so they didn't send the cheque to me.

As a note when PayPal does find in favour of the buyer like this, they will pull the funds from the seller's account. However if the seller has no funds they will just end up with a negative balance. However whether or not the seller has funds has no bearing on you getting money back from PayPal if we are talking about an eBay auction for an amount that is within what the auction was covered for at the time of purchase. I.e. For this $85 amount, even if PayPal can't get the money from the seller, the buyer is still reimbursed--that's simply how eBay/PayPal protection works.

Edit: Here's a link for more info:
http://pages.ebay.com/paypal/buyer/protection.html

sdsurfer
06-19-2009, 03:11 PM
If both of you are verified paypal members ,you are for sure covered .

michaellane
06-20-2009, 09:14 AM
they already froze his account for the amount until it is resolved so im good. i made it a claim and just waiting for his response.

michaellane
06-22-2009, 11:47 AM
ebay sided with me so once i mail the unit back and give them the tracking number i get ALL of my money back :)

Willkas
06-22-2009, 09:03 PM
thats what you get for buying from a 16 feedback guy rather than a 40000 feedback guy.
try ebay user: hookedontronics <-- hes the ****

Johnny Law.Lulz
06-22-2009, 09:21 PM
I bought my hifonics 1610 and it arrived DOA, now i have to ship it back so they can check but i feel sercure with that cuz its a powerseller store. You gotta watch who you buy things from. And look at the price you paid. Thats like a $200 unit isnt it.

gearhound17
06-23-2009, 01:33 PM
Ebay/Paypal will side with the buyer most of the time.
You have a very good chance of being reimbursed.

jb1dsl
06-24-2009, 01:41 PM
Tracking number will not get you paid, it has to show it was delivered too him at the correct address before they will pay. I went through this and mailed an item back and the seller was not there for delivery and would not go get it so I had to fight paypal to get my money back because they said I must have shipped it wrong even though it was a confirmed addressbut i finally talked to some one with paypal who had since and got my 800 dollars back.

nuugen
06-24-2009, 04:49 PM
Tracking number will not get you paid, it has to show it was delivered too him at the correct address before they will pay. I went through this and mailed an item back and the seller was not there for delivery and would not go get it so I had to fight paypal to get my money back because they said I must have shipped it wrong even though it was a confirmed addressbut i finally talked to some one with paypal who had since and got my 800 dollars back.

That's why I said make sure to get signature confirmation..

michaellane
06-28-2009, 01:33 AM
well tbe item was shipped this morning i think or the other morning but either way i will get my monies back ;) it will be dropped off at his location even if he is not there to pick it up.

DeezDrama
06-28-2009, 10:11 AM
Ive had to file claims with paypal before.
They have always gave my money back but it can take up to 30 days.

michaellane
06-29-2009, 01:02 AM
Ive had to file claims with paypal before.
They have always gave my money back but it can take up to 30 days.

well i hope it doesnt take that long.