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got-one-eight
06-11-2009, 10:59 AM
I have an 04 dodge ram with some Focal KRX2's that sound pretty good but I believe the tweets might be in a bad location. They are up high on the pillar about ear level which puts them pretty close to me. They are a little to bright and I even considered going to Morel Hybrid set for a warmer sound. The local shop recommended I keep the focals ( didnt even purchase from them ) and said bring it by for a listen. The installer said to get the tweeters further down the pillar or put them in the stock location firing up at the windshield. He said the tweets are currently dominating the sound and not accenting the mids like the should. Any thoughts? X-over is already -6 on tweets. My setup is as follows...

Alpine 9887
Imprint Sound Manager (still playing with this)
Focal 6.5" KRX2
--JL Audio 300/2 V2
JL 8" W7 ported 33hz
--JL Audio 500/1 V2
Dynamat extreme all over

SQPL
06-11-2009, 04:31 PM
Any pics of your tweeter location? I think they are close to your ear and just experiment what is the best location before doing the final install. What's the freq setting on your EQ? Try to lower the gain in your amps if you are running active or lower the tweeter x-over to -6db if using the passive x-over.

got-one-eight
06-11-2009, 05:13 PM
I am at -6 passive. Gains have been lowered and set per JL specs. The gain setting seems a little conservative. Using the Imprint tune with the mic etc makes it sound like its firing out of a tin can. The woofer setting on the x-over is set to mid flat I think and not mid high. I will get a picture tonight and post it. Thanks for the reply!

Found a pic of my older K2P tweets installed. Should they be lower or in the dash firing up from the stock location?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/badlilhemi/DSCN2735.jpg

SQChevy
06-12-2009, 09:22 AM
Definitiely a bit lower and aiming into the middle of the windshield. This will give the sound some time to mature before reaching your ears. I would say move it down another 3-4 inches.

got-one-eight
06-12-2009, 01:08 PM
Definitiely a bit lower and aiming into the middle of the windshield. This will give the sound some time to mature before reaching your ears. I would say move it down another 3-4 inches.

Ok, so 3-4" lower and rotate the tweeter inward more so its aiming more at the middle of the windshield? I can give that a shot. I found replacement pillars for 90$ new shipped which sux but I dont mind cutting these up to find the right location. I assume dash firing up from stock location is bad idea?

got-one-eight
06-12-2009, 01:12 PM
Also the focal's have a flange that is supposed to help direct the sound somewhat. Do I have them spun the right way? This is how the installer did it. I spun it the other way and it seemed to make them a bit brighter which I didnt like.

gqjeff
06-12-2009, 03:45 PM
They are made to be able to be spun, you should play with that also. I have the K2P's if you go Morels let me know might be interested in your KRX's

got-one-eight
06-12-2009, 04:25 PM
I will play with them tonight and see if moving the tweet down helps.

I found this pic. Is this to low?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/dynaudio+242/moob2008/Toyz/004.jpg?o=1

spiroh
06-12-2009, 07:23 PM
I will play with them tonight and see if moving the tweet down helps.

I found this pic. Is this to low?

http://media.photobucket.com/image/dynaudio+242/moob2008/Toyz/004.jpg?o=1

Why not just move them around without making the holes first to find the ideal spot for them? Yes, they might stick out a bit but I think you would have a better idea as to where to place them. Actually, since you are buying new pillars use the existing ones and make holes at different locations to find a suitable location before you install the new pillars.

got-one-eight
06-12-2009, 08:55 PM
Why not just move them around without making the holes first to find the ideal spot for them? Yes, they might stick out a bit but I think you would have a better idea as to where to place them. Actually, since you are buying new pillars use the existing ones and make holes at different locations to find a suitable location before you install the new pillars.

That is exactly what I am doing lol. I have already made one set of holes about 4" lower then my others and it sounds better already. The highs and mids are starting to blend better. I will try this out for a couple days then make another set of holes lower and see how that sounds.

got-one-eight
06-12-2009, 09:16 PM
Ok, here is the new location. Not sure if I should try lower or not. the driver side dash ramps up and will start to block the tweet possibly?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a308/badlilhemi/DSCF0347.jpg

papermaker
06-13-2009, 10:37 PM
aim them away from the glass, keep the on axis with the mids.. if there passive you cant really twwet them with TA so blending won't be ideal...

got-one-eight
06-13-2009, 11:08 PM
aim them away from the glass, keep the on axis with the mids.. if there passive you cant really twwet them with TA so blending won't be ideal...

I have some telling me to aim them into the window and some telling me to aim them at each other. I also have heard the Focal are ok being off axis? So many opinions. Anyone who runs focals have some thoughts? I think I got them low enough. The only other thing would be to change the angle.

got-one-eight
06-15-2009, 03:40 PM
So shoot them at the window or at each other? Can someone give me some ideas why either would be better then the other?

Echo42987
06-15-2009, 05:09 PM
aim them away from the glass, keep the on axis with the mids.. if there passive you cant really twwet them with TA so blending won't be ideal...

He should aim them towards the glass. Where you have them now is good but you should be test fitting these first before cutting the wholes. Use double stick tape or something listen to it and then after you've tested it then you should do the final install

got-one-eight
06-15-2009, 05:11 PM
He should aim them towards the glass. Where you have them now is good but you should be test fitting these first before cutting the wholes. Use double stick tape or something listen to it and then after you've tested it then you should do the final install

Thanks for the info, they are sounding pretty good now I didnt want to slide them any further down because of the dash and I dont mind swiss cheesing the pillars because i have no ones on the way. If I roll the tweeter out anymore the edge of the tweet hangs off hte pillar nad looks like azz.

SQPL
06-15-2009, 11:26 PM
Experimenting the location of the tweets is hard and sometimes easy depending on the type of vehicle. Try to aim the angle towards the rear view mirror.

got-one-eight
06-16-2009, 09:35 AM
Experimenting the location of the tweets is hard and sometimes easy depending on the type of vehicle. Try to aim the angle towards the rear view mirror.

I think I have decided to put these up for sell and go with something that is naturally a little smoother and possibly easier to get right. Local shop told me to get a Bitone and they would tune the set. I think im ready to try some Dynaudio or HAT products.

SQPL
06-23-2009, 02:36 PM
My KRX2s sound really great, awesome sound quality and its the best components I've ever used. I think the problem was on your setting on either the HU or the Amplifier because my tweeter doesn't sound bright or harsh at all. Goodluck though on your new set!

bmwproboi05
08-11-2009, 06:29 PM
My KRX2s sound really great, awesome sound quality and its the best components I've ever used. I think the problem was on your setting on either the HU or the Amplifier because my tweeter doesn't sound bright or harsh at all. Goodluck though on your new set!


+1. I thought i couldn't tune it since im choosing to do passive. Buh i have the crossover at -6. alpine cross over at 80 hertz at -10 pamaramic eq 3 80 herz -3 ep 4 1k at -5 ep5 2.5k at -6 . still a bit harsh. buh im using the pods right at my face.