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camaroaudio69
05-24-2009, 08:07 PM
I am just getting ready to get back into competeing and my system will be going into my suv just wondering if you have any advice or tips and tricks for me to get my numbers up even if the tip only gets me .2 anything is better then nothing thanks guys

treadburner
05-24-2009, 08:09 PM
tune high if it is just for numbers....

PaulThompson229
05-24-2009, 08:10 PM
Don't buy a SUV with a sunroof, I made that mistake without even noticing it lol.

camaroaudio69
05-24-2009, 08:11 PM
lol suv doesnt have a sunroof and its going to be for spl but i will still be listening to it for daily was thinking about like 38-40 hz

thegreatestpenn
05-24-2009, 08:15 PM
tips? deadening deadening deadening. Test test test. big big wires, big alt, and big big batts.

PaulThompson229
05-24-2009, 08:15 PM
How about interchangable ports for daily and comps? Like 32Hz daily and like 45Hz-55Hz for comps depending on where your suv peaks at.

treadburner
05-24-2009, 08:17 PM
i have heard people say they lost a db when they sound deadened their suv

i gain 1.2 when i dynamatted mine though

DDeitz
05-24-2009, 08:17 PM
Wall it.

boom24
05-24-2009, 08:22 PM
Wall it.



x2 walls are ****:D:D

hunterw
05-24-2009, 08:27 PM
what vehicle? what class you building for?

RXZILLA
05-24-2009, 08:29 PM
Dodge Durango....BUILD A WALL!!!!!

thegreatestpenn
05-24-2009, 08:34 PM
as much as I LOVE walls, I've seen many MANY suv's get loud without them so I don't think its necessary

TNTR70
05-24-2009, 08:37 PM
as much as I LOVE walls, I've seen many MANY suv's get loud without them so I don't think its necessary


yeah but no one pays non walled suvs any attention either

treadburner
05-24-2009, 08:39 PM
i had my 6 type r 12's in a box cause i dont like walls
i like being able to pull them out when i want to w/o any hassle


other then weighing like 500 pounds

thegreatestpenn
05-24-2009, 08:40 PM
yeah but no one pays non walled suvs any attention either

i think sundownz will disagree with you as will his band of cult-like followers

Pioneer~Saturn
05-24-2009, 08:41 PM
yeah but no one pays non walled suvs any attention either

If you're breaking 150's on music they do...

Anthony Collova
05-24-2009, 08:44 PM
My #1 tip for SPL


Don't treat your vibration damping as an afterthought. To get the most out of your damper, you need to install it beofre you build your box and before you figure outthe resonant frequency of your car.

Most people build the box and tune according to the resonanat frequecy, THEN add the sound deadening once they realize how much vibration and unwated flex they have. In some cases adding vibration mat to an already tuned system can lower your score.
In some cases the score might go up but mostly, this is just luck.
Losing a few points when deadening is added is rarely the fault of the vibration damper, and usually the fault lies in the lack of priority that was placed upon the damper.

By treating the vibrating sheet metal with the sound deadener first, then builing and tuning your box according to the newly altered resonance frequecy, you insure that you will not lose any deebeez, and will get the most out of your system.

That my tip for SPL.

ANT

thegreatestpenn
05-24-2009, 08:48 PM
this tip loks like deja vu to me for some reason ;), is a darn good one.

RXZILLA
05-24-2009, 08:48 PM
I break 150's playing music. They do get a fair share of wows.

AudioAnonymous
05-24-2009, 08:53 PM
The biggest gain your gonna get first off is buying a Termlab meter. It's useless to not have one or easy access to one if you're doing SPL. I wouldn't put sound deadener in any of my SPL vehicles until I have my equipment, a meter, and the box mostly finished.

RXZILLA
05-24-2009, 08:55 PM
The biggest gain your gonna get first off is buying a Termlab meter. It's useless to not have one or easy access to one if you're doing SPL. I wouldn't put sound deadener in any of my SPL vehicles until I have my equipment, a meter, and the box mostly finished.



I agree.

hunterw
05-24-2009, 09:21 PM
it all goes hand in hand. its nice to have everything your going to need at the beginning. termlab for sure. big difference maker. there isnt one thing you can ignore. voltage is a big deal. running as many runs of wire as you can is usually helpful. especially in classes limited on battery amounts.

deadener is a huge deal. i put a layer on...test. add another layer.....test. i also do the same thing with my enclosure. start off at 10in of port depth. test. cut an inch off....test so on and so forth.

none of these can be ignored.


also small things that will make you gain big: resining your box. and then waxing it. pvc on all port pieces. that can gain you a full db in cases. messing with internal angles in boxes. that is a huge one. cut strips of wood in say 2 degree intervals and put them in port corners and test them. could make a huge difference. mic placement can make a big difference. you could move the mic 6 inches up and gain .5 basically test everything in you vehicle. lol. and your deck settings

hunterw
05-24-2009, 09:26 PM
i might add i gaind 1.4 from deadening my passenger door. :) LOL. but it takes the most beating out of everything in my truck. except my back wall maybe

Skip01
05-24-2009, 09:44 PM
There was a thread a while back on this...bunch of good info...search for it.

And who said SUVs with no sunroof....shoot, those areeee the ones too get.

They have better bracing than one without it, at least in Explorers that is.

camaroaudio69
05-24-2009, 09:45 PM
where all would i need to place deadener in my durango also ive seen people like build stuff in there box where inside the box they have a piece of wood going across in the middle of the box behind the speaker magnets with holes in it what does that do

treadburner
05-24-2009, 09:47 PM
deaden your whole car
and most of the time that is just a brace in the box

Skip01
05-24-2009, 09:47 PM
Heres that other thread:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=397487&highlight=termlab+tips

camaroaudio69
05-24-2009, 10:03 PM
whats the best way to fire my sub and port in an suv

Skip01
05-24-2009, 10:17 PM
whats the best way to fire my sub and port in an suv

How many subs and what size?

camaroaudio69
05-24-2009, 10:18 PM
3 12s

SPLluminator
05-24-2009, 11:59 PM
Also, sundowns saw a gain from getting the wires out of the port as well(if they are currently in there). Read his thread. Lots of good info.