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WheresTheButta
05-21-2009, 04:55 PM
Quick rundown: I am looking for recommendations here, and explanations of your pick are greatly appreciated. This is my criteria
-I am looking for a set of 6.5" 2-way comps to run passively with a JL 300/2 powering them.
-They *MUST* be 6.5"! I had considered rainbow power line CS, but they are far too large and would require destroying my doors.
-Must stand up to extended use at high volume

I was running a set of JL 6.5" ZR components, powered by a JL 300/2. I play my music very loud, often for extended periods of time. The tweeters blew, most likely due to my abusive listening practices. In the new set I want equal or better output - both in terms of detail and volume. I like it loud. Let me say it again LOUD. For sub, I run a 12" SI mag with a cadence 1000.1. Sub is in a sealed fiberglass box in the wheel well.

Just a quick note: I had my gain set just a hair under 55%, no 'bass boost' or anything silly. I had a high pass filter at 80hz, and the woofers still play just fine - just the tweeters are blown. H/U volume was never turned up past 2/3. I also have my entire car extensively sound-deadened. If there are any questions about install or settings please just PM me.

dbeez
05-21-2009, 04:58 PM
morel or some dd german comps there are other high dollar ones out there..

bones22
05-21-2009, 04:59 PM
for those prices you have way to many high end options

528hz
05-21-2009, 05:02 PM
I personally don't think any set of comps is worth that much money.

KyngHype
05-21-2009, 05:04 PM
My brother has Focal 165 KRX2's off that same amp in his 300ZX, sounds excellent IMO

nismos14
05-21-2009, 05:04 PM
Dynaudio, System 242.

James Bang
05-21-2009, 05:07 PM
I personally don't think any set of comps is worth that much money.

same for subs, and amps, wire, and alts to power them.

KyngHype
05-21-2009, 05:15 PM
Dynaudio, System 242.

my second thought, I have system 340 in my Sequioa

djman37
05-21-2009, 05:18 PM
how about just replacing the tweets with something better?????

KyngHype
05-21-2009, 05:22 PM
how about just replacing the tweets with something better?????

Cheaper:fyi:

mlstrass
05-21-2009, 05:27 PM
how about just replacing the tweets with something better?????

good advice. And learn to listen for distortion/crackling, so you don't blow another set.

Also you might consider going active with that budget as you'll be able to tune the xovers/slopes, etc.. to your liking and hopefully make things last longer.

350zspl
05-21-2009, 05:28 PM
build a set yourself

stuckinok
05-21-2009, 05:31 PM
Seas Lotus or HAT Legatia Pro set

WheresTheButta
05-21-2009, 05:49 PM
I should have specified my plans for the woofers/xovers from the JL set. I'm considering using as rear fill since I don't have any right now. Passengers might appreciate hearing vocals when i have the top down.

Also, I don't want to go active as I don't have room for the extra equipment. I drive a 2002 mustang GT convertible - my trunk is incredibly tiny - I only have room for one extra amp of relatively small size.

cx-7heaven
05-21-2009, 06:00 PM
My Diamond d971 are ridiculously loud, I have a sundown 100.2 bridged to each set for the last 2 years, and they still going strong. They use a 7 inch woof, not much bigger than a 6.5. They been disco for over a year now though, but they have a replacement model, the HexPro

WheresTheButta
05-21-2009, 07:07 PM
anybody else? I've had suggestions of

morel or some dd german comps

Focal 165 KRX2's - question about these -- what is the difference between the KRX2 and the K2P UV (Upgraded Version) - which is more detailed, which gets louder, are they bright or smooth?

Dynaudio, System 242.

Dynaudio, system 340

Seas Lotus or HAT Legatia Pro set


I can't do the diamond set d971, the woofer diameter is too large. 6.5" is an extremely tight squeeze for me since I don't want to mod my door panels at all. The stock holes are 5x7 and I have plates on them to convert to 6.5" hole.

WheresTheButta
05-22-2009, 09:25 AM
I also had someone suggest Rainbow Profi line.

Any suggestions?

nismos14
05-22-2009, 09:33 AM
I would go with the Dynaudio system242, for what you want, very loud, with excellent sq, the dyn's will do it. While the Rainbows will sound exceptional, but maybe not get as loud. Also the Dyn's will require about 100 hours of break in, and will continue to change in sound until about 200 hours in.

bdawson72
05-22-2009, 09:41 AM
Someone's a baller.

smgreen20
05-22-2009, 09:41 AM
Dynaudio, System 242.X2

362 as well. If you get the 242 go active to get the volume you want or just twist the resistor in the crossover. The tweeter protection will prevent them from getting to loud after a moment of hard listening.

I used to have a set. I miss them and want another but I'm content w/my Morel made PG Elites.

mike11202
05-22-2009, 09:52 AM
CDT Audio HD 62 would suit your needs, I ran them off of a JL 300/2 and they got ridiculously loud and sounded great while doing it. Still my favorite sounding component set.

http://www.woofersetc.com/p1118/HD62Z--CDT-Audio-High-Definition-65"-2Way-Component-Speakers.htm

nismos14
05-22-2009, 09:55 AM
X2

362 as well. If you get the 242 go active to get the volume you want or just twist the resistor in the crossover. The tweeter protection will prevent them from getting to loud after a moment of hard listening.

I used to have a set. I miss them and want another but I'm content w/my Morel made PG Elites.

Don't you miss the midbass though?


I could never give up my 360 set because the 8" midbass's are absolutely insane.

djman37
05-22-2009, 09:58 AM
I should have specified my plans for the woofers/xovers from the JL set. I'm considering using as rear fill since I don't have any right now. Passengers might appreciate hearing vocals when i have the top down.

Also, I don't want to go active as I don't have room for the extra equipment. I drive a 2002 mustang GT convertible - my trunk is incredibly tiny - I only have room for one extra amp of relatively small size.

ditch your rear fill idea then and maybe replace your Cadence and JL amps with a 5 channel and go ACTIVE or a matching set of amps like RD, Sundown, etc.

I should mention you can spend the money you want to spend on CDTs :eek:

Flipx99
05-22-2009, 10:14 AM
With low power, I like Rainbows over the Dyns, but then again, I am fanboy.

its_bacon12
05-22-2009, 10:23 AM
I would advise against any HAT products if you plan to listen at high volumes. They get loud but are FAR more of an SQ based series of speakers than other sets.

I would stay away from CDT components unless you're considering the Euro series comps because they use garbage tweeters in their low/mid sets.

DEdwards
05-22-2009, 11:09 AM
[quote=its_bacon12]I would advise against any HAT products if you plan to listen at high volumes. They get loud but are FAR more of an SQ based series of speakers than other sets.[quote]


Some of our Team Hybrids members have pretty loud vehicles(Dave Brooks' F-250 comes to mind). If the OP wants screaming loud componets with little reguard to SQ then yes Hybrid Audio might not be his best choice, but for accurate musical reproduction they should be looked into.

djman37
05-22-2009, 01:03 PM
I would advise against any HAT products if you plan to listen at high volumes. They get loud but are FAR more of an SQ based series of speakers than other sets.

I would stay away from CDT components unless you're considering the Euro series comps because they use garbage tweeters in their low/mid sets.

he did mention $700 - $1300 range. Hell, I'd hire a violinist to sit in my car for that!:eek:

nismos14
05-22-2009, 01:43 PM
$700-1300 for one set that will likely (If not abused) last quite a while is well worth it. The rest of you swapping out comps left and right end up spending that much over a few years span anyways.

headless
05-22-2009, 02:14 PM
nismos speaks the truth. Ever since i got my power line CS i've had no desire whatsoever to upgrade.

Well, ok, maybe a small desire to put some dynaudio MW182's in my doors....
But only a small one.
****it.

Racerx250
05-22-2009, 02:22 PM
Ever heard of searching. There's plenty of threads like these.

And running active takes less space.
No passive x-over's.

James Bang
05-22-2009, 02:26 PM
I would stay away from CDT components unless you're considering the Euro series comps because they use garbage tweeters in their low/mid sets.


http://cgi.ebay.com/CDT-Audio-EuroSport-ES-01-Competition-Silk-Tweeter_W0QQitemZ110325811608QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Speakers?hash=item19afee4998&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A30 (http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078)


http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8355

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078

cdt

:laugh:

goodstuff
05-22-2009, 02:26 PM
Ever heard of searching. There's plenty of threads like these.

And running active takes less space.
No passive x-over's.

Depends on how he's active/

Innovative:Cory
05-22-2009, 02:29 PM
I have an Eclipse with all Dynaudio in it....it rocks...md102, md142, and mw172 all active off of a drz9255 head unit...flat out tons of balls and head room....

I also have a SC400 with Hybrid Audio L4's in the Nakamichi enclosures...and L1's in the factory locations and it screams as well....

Can't go wrong with either set....

djman37
05-22-2009, 02:55 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/CDT-Audio-EuroSport-ES-01-Competition-Silk-Tweeter_W0QQitemZ110325811608QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Speakers?hash=item19afee4998&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A30 (http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078)


http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8355

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078

cdt

:laugh:
it's his money and he seems to want to pay an outrageous price for a set of passive comps. They WILL take his money:p:

traksta15
05-22-2009, 03:02 PM
my boston z6's get hella loud (feeding them around 350rms each)

WheresTheButta
05-22-2009, 06:27 PM
*fyi* I listed $700-$1300 as my budget because that's the amount of $ I've got. If I can find a set that will perform the way I want for less, that's great. I absolutely need the woofers to be 6.5" though. I am using the factory locations, no compromises on that.

If I knew how to set up / manage an active system, and it honestly took up less space I would consider it.

If I did that, however, I'd still have the $700-$1300 bottom line. I'm thinking it would be harder to budget an amp, an active xover/equalizer and speakers on top of it all for the same price.

Before I make any decisions, I'll ask the question a few people seem to be pushing me toward:

Would an active setup with a $700-$1300 budget outperform a set of passive comps of equal value? If so, would it be such a drastic difference that it would justify me investing the time/energy learning how to set it up / tune it properly, in addition to running new wires?

If the answer is yes, and an active setup for the same price will get louder and be more detailed, I will need suggestions on that. 2-way sets with 6.5" woofers only pls.

FJF
05-22-2009, 06:32 PM
Would an active setup with a $700-$1300 budget outperform a set of passive comps of equal value? If so, would it be such a drastic difference that it would justify me investing the time/energy learning how to set it up / tune it properly, in addition to running new wires?

If you're dreading investing time and energy into learning a bit about audio, an active setup is not for you. You'll most likely get much better sound by using a set of dedicated crossovers. Good luck.

djman37
05-22-2009, 06:50 PM
*fyi* I listed $700-$1300 as my budget because that's the amount of $ I've got. If I can find a set that will perform the way I want for less, that's great. I absolutely need the woofers to be 6.5" though. I am using the factory locations, no compromises on that.

If I knew how to set up / manage an active system, I would consider it. I didn't think about the fact that I could purchase a 4ch amp and run a set active on that.

If I did that, however, I'd still have the $700-$1300 bottom line. I'm thinking it would be harder to budget an amp and speakers both. I would also be looking for an active setup to be an improvement significant enough to justify the extra hassle.

Would an active setup with a $700-$1300 budget outperform a set of passive comps of equal value? If so, would it be such a drastic difference that it would justify me investing the time/energy learning how to set it up / tune it properly, in addition to running new wires?

1 RCA set and 1 set of speaker wires. (depending on your HU, you might just Y off the RCAs at the amp and send the same signal that you currently send)
I would rather split the signal BEFORE it's amplified. Each channel then only amplifies what it needs to send to the speaker. You can find great drivers at a fraction of the cost of expensive comps. You will spend a little money on an amp that can perform to the specs though- decent XO slopes HP and LP on at least 2 channels, etc. Now you can look for exact drivers that you like on madisound or parts-express or solens, etc.
You'll also find you don't have to send as much power since you are controlling the drivers directly. Just for fun I picked up a pair of Earthquake Screamer tweets from thelow on here...they should suffice for concert level highs.:eek:

these might still be out of budget but look what doors are opened up:
http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=8495

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_228_256&products_id=8474

the tweeter list goes on for days:

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_229_324&products_id=8179

It's just another option to the pre-packaged comp sets and definitely worth a look. I've got some $40 Mach5 mids and $26 vifa tweets and I drive around with my windows down with no problems hearing the music.

G/L.

SQPL
05-23-2009, 01:50 AM
anybody else? I've had suggestions of


Focal 165 KRX2's - question about these -- what is the difference between the KRX2 and the K2P UV (Upgraded Version) - which is more detailed, which gets louder, are they bright or smooth?




the krx2's are far better than the k2p's.. Its like night and day.. imho.

WheresTheButta
05-24-2009, 04:04 PM
Hokay - update. I have become convinced that an active setup would yield better results for my application, and my budget will allow for such. I've had some help, and have been putting together a shopping list.

The drivers that appeal to me are these:

Tweeters: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_229_324&products_id=8497

Woofers: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_234_267&products_id=8485

I'm taking suggestions on amps. I already have a JL 300/2, so I have two options - either buy another amp to drive the tweeters and run the morel woofers on the JL amp; OR I can try to find an amp that will match both the scan speak tweeters and the morel woofers.

I some nice amps to power the tweeters alone, but couldn't find anything I liked that would power both tweeters/woofers. Any suggestions?

its_bacon12
05-26-2009, 03:58 PM
I would advise against any HAT products if you plan to listen at high volumes. They get loud but are FAR more of an SQ based series of speakers than other sets.


Some of our Team Hybrids members have pretty loud vehicles(Dave Brooks' F-250 comes to mind). If the OP wants screaming loud componets with little reguard to SQ then yes Hybrid Audio might not be his best choice, but for accurate musical reproduction they should be looked into.

I by no means am knocking HAT's ability to get loud, they just don't take abuse well. Not really the forum for HAT products IMO. It's more of a DIYMA crowd thing.

Flipx99
05-26-2009, 04:00 PM
Hokay - update. I have become convinced that an active setup would yield better results for my application, and my budget will allow for such. I've had some help, and have been putting together a shopping list.

The drivers that appeal to me are these:

Tweeters: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_229_324&products_id=8497

Woofers: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_234_267&products_id=8485

I'm taking suggestions on amps. I already have a JL 300/2, so I have two options - either buy another amp to drive the tweeters and run the morel woofers on the JL amp; OR I can try to find an amp that will match both the scan speak tweeters and the morel woofers.

I some nice amps to power the tweeters alone, but couldn't find anything I liked that would power both tweeters/woofers. Any suggestions?

I'd rather have the scan mids over the morel. You will need 4 channels of amplification to go active. Many may suggest going 3 way active front stage, given your budget. If you have the installation skills, I'd suggest it as well.

its_bacon12
05-26-2009, 04:01 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/CDT-Audio-EuroSport-ES-01-Competition-Silk-Tweeter_W0QQitemZ110325811608QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCa r_Speakers?hash=item19afee4998&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A2%7C294%3A30 (http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078)


http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=8355

http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1078

cdt

:laugh:


As I said, in the high end components they're decent tweeters- re badged Vifas.

Flipx99
05-26-2009, 04:10 PM
If you're dreading investing time and energy into learning a bit about audio, an active setup is not for you. You'll most likely get much better sound by using a set of dedicated crossovers. Good luck.

This. Part of "going active" is the desire to learn and understand the intricacies of audio in an automobile enviornement. If you have no interest in learning, and continuing to learn after purchase/installation, going with a set of passives....but hell, even then, there is some degree of tuning involved.

papermaker
05-26-2009, 04:29 PM
dynaudio.... there new set has me drooling..

WheresTheButta
05-28-2009, 03:17 PM
I decided to go with a set of Earthquake "screamer" tweeters. For my application/budget they are a better fit. Also, I couldn't pass up the great price that thelow had for them. I purchased an ARC audio amp to power them - http://www.woofersetc.com/p6856/FD-2200--ARC-Audio-2-Channel-370-Watt-Amplifier.htm great deal on a nice amp.

I also purchased the set of morel supreme mids. I'm going to power them with my JL 300/2.
To flipx99 who suggested the scan mids: they wouldn't fit in my doors. I'm not chopping my doors under any circumstances.

For the install, I purchased stinger pro series interconnects and kukonceptz karma speaker wire. I have some distro blocks coming in the mail as well. 4ga in 8ga out to split my power and ground connection between my two front stage amps. The 8ga wires will travel less than 12", so I'm not worried about them.

Any suggestions on material to make the plates for the woofers? I've seen some buzz about cedar, is that a proper material for door plates? Also, how does it compare with a thin (maybe 1/2" or 1/4") MDF plate?

One other question about DIY plates - what tool should I use to cut the hole? My jigsaw is old, shoddy, and inaccurate. I don't own a router; should I look for a drill bit that can cut a hole large enough for these woofers?

WheresTheButta
05-28-2009, 08:37 PM
any box builders care to suggest something?

djman37
05-29-2009, 10:13 AM
use 1/2" mdf. some people use the original baffle and trace that to make the new baffle. If it's too late for that, use construction paper and a crayon to make a rubbing of the baffle area maybe and go from there. You will need to coat the baffle with something to make it waterproof.
jig-wise for making circles, I bought the two pack of jasper jigs from parts express and a plunge router THAT FITS THE JIG.(no harbor freight crap)

Flipx99
05-29-2009, 11:50 AM
use 1/2" mdf. some people use the original baffle and trace that to make the new baffle. If it's too late for that, use construction paper and a crayon to make a rubbing of the baffle area maybe and go from there. You will need to coat the baffle with something to make it waterproof.
jig-wise for making circles, I bought the two pack of jasper jigs from parts express and a plunge router THAT FITS THE JIG.(no harbor freight crap)

He doesn't have a router so the jasper jig doesn't help.

I think there are people that make rings for next to nothing.

djman37
05-29-2009, 11:52 AM
He doesn't have a router so the jasper jig doesn't help.

I think there are people that make rings for next to nothing.

is it selectproducts or somewhere that sells plates specific to vehicles???

Flipx99
05-29-2009, 11:53 AM
is it selectproducts or somewhere that sells plates specific to vehicles???

I forget, to be honest. I know bjfish used to do them quite a bit.

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 12:05 PM
Does anyone know if a major hardware store -such as loews or home depot- would cut the 1/2" MDF for me if I brought them an outline?

Obviously I expect to pay them for the service, but I don't know if they offer that service at all. I'm going to call my local store to ask, but has anyone ever heard of something like that?

Flipx99
05-29-2009, 12:09 PM
Does anyone know if a major hardware store -such as loews or home depot- would cut the 1/2" MDF for me if I brought them an outline?

Obviously I expect to pay them for the service, but I don't know if they offer that service at all. I'm going to call my local store to ask, but has anyone ever heard of something like that?

No, they do not offer routing services. The panel saw only makes rip cuts.

A local cabinet/molding shop may do it for you.

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 12:12 PM
hm. I don't know any of those haha. I could just ask the local car audio shop to do them, they did a great job with the fiberglass box they built for me. The only worry with that is they work *very* slowly. Lol.

I get antsy once I get a new toy... I want to play with it immediately like a little kid.

gqjeff
05-29-2009, 12:13 PM
Why not just get a blade for your jigsaw and a large drill bit.. Drill a large hole in the center to insert the blade and cut the circle? Do the same thing for the outside also.

Flipx99
05-29-2009, 12:13 PM
hm. I don't know any of those haha. I could just ask the local car audio shop to do them, they did a great job with the fiberglass box they built for me. The only worry with that is they work *very* slowly. Lol.

I get antsy once I get a new toy... I want to play with it immediately like a little kid.

Local shops should do this as well. If it didn't cost any extra, I'd have them flush mount it in the ring.

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 12:30 PM
I think I'm going to do that, as a matter of fact. I think they'll enjoy taking a look at the drivers too - they only sell a handful of mainstream brands, but it was clear upon deeper conversation that they are well versed in more high-end drivers.

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 02:11 PM
Holy cow. My shipment came in from KnuKonceptz today. I have never seen such beefy speaker wire in my entire life. I ordered the karma wires, twisted pair 10ga. The wire is extremely impressive in person.

I think the 10ga *might* be overkill for my front stage lol. I suppose it's better to have overkill than not enough though.

bamaster
05-29-2009, 02:17 PM
I like KnuKonceptz. But yeah, 10 gauge is probably overkill.

LaserRed38
05-29-2009, 02:33 PM
Kinda sad to see Morel Supreme mids paired with Earthquake "screamer" tweeters but okay. And 3-way front stage in a Mustang is a lot of work that the OP probably wouldn't be up to. I'm not. I like my simple 2-way FS and sub set-up for now. What is your head unit?

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 02:38 PM
I have a pretty old pioneer deck, but a nice one. I'll get the exact model number later today.

Also, i'm not doing 3-way active, i'm doing 2-way. The morel mids and the earthquake tweeters.

Can't beat the deal I got on the tweeters, so i'm hoping they perform well.
If the tweeters aren't up to snuff, then I'll pair them with my old JL ZR woofers and make home theater speakers out of them for fun.


I already have a set of oldschool 12" kicker CVR woofers that I could use as low-end drivers for that purpose. Might be fun to make a set of frankenstein towers =)

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 02:56 PM
I just ordered 12 ft^2 of dynamat extreme to reinforce the doors a little bit more.

This install is quickly spiraling out of control. It went from a set of comps, to an active setup with new tweeters, another amp, new mids, distro blocks, dynamat, speaker wire and interconnects.

Thankfully I don't have to upgrade my substage to match it. My SI magnum performs beautifully. It's the most musical sounding sub i've ever had the pleasure of hearing. Having my entire car sound-deadened really helps it shine too, there isn't a rattle anywhere.

mmouse57
05-29-2009, 03:01 PM
im in florida but give me exactly what you need via specs/pdfs and shape and ill router you some plates/baffles for cheap

where ya located at?

bigaudiofanati2
05-29-2009, 03:06 PM
Quick rundown: I am looking for recommendations here, and explanations of your pick are greatly appreciated. This is my criteria
-I am looking for a set of 6.5" 2-way comps to run passively with a JL 300/2 powering them.
-They *MUST* be 6.5"! I had considered rainbow power line CS, but they are far too large and would require destroying my doors.
-Must stand up to extended use at high volume

I was running a set of JL 6.5" ZR components, powered by a JL 300/2. I play my music very loud, often for extended periods of time. The tweeters blew, most likely due to my abusive listening practices. In the new set I want equal or better output - both in terms of detail and volume. I like it loud. Let me say it again LOUD. For sub, I run a 12" SI mag with a cadence 1000.1. Sub is in a sealed fiberglass box in the wheel well.

Just a quick note: I had my gain set just a hair under 55%, no 'bass boost' or anything silly. I had a high pass filter at 80hz, and the woofers still play just fine - just the tweeters are blown. H/U volume was never turned up past 2/3. I also have my entire car extensively sound-deadened. If there are any questions about install or settings please just PM me.
I am going to let you in on a little secret you don't have to spend that much. There a lot of speakers out there that sound as good if not better than the 1,000 dollar ones. For example I was going to go with a 3 way cdt setup they were 800 dollars after previewing them and demoing others. The Image Dynamic's are what I am going with. Also it is have you set them up and tune them that also make the difference.

WheresTheButta
05-29-2009, 05:11 PM
lol I think we covered the cost / quality part. =)

kappout
05-30-2009, 12:32 PM
custom build a comp set. as in buy your mids and tweets seperate lol.

have you looked into CDT at all?

00poop6x
05-30-2009, 03:31 PM
Wow, no one reads.:emb:

WheresTheButta
05-30-2009, 03:44 PM
The deck is a Pioneer DEH-P9200R.

The morel mids are in the mail, so is the ARC amp and the earthquake screamers.

Knukonceptz karma kable 10ga speaker wire and distro blocks arrived already.
Dynamat extreme door kit in the mail.
Stinger pro series interconnects in the mail.

Pics once it's all here, and I'm going to make a video out of the install.

vellocet
05-30-2009, 06:23 PM
I just ordered 12 ft^2 of dynamat extreme to reinforce the doors a little bit more.

This install is quickly spiraling out of control. It went from a set of comps, to an active setup with new tweeters, another amp, new mids, distro blocks, dynamat, speaker wire and interconnects.

Thankfully I don't have to upgrade my substage to match it. My SI magnum performs beautifully. It's the most musical sounding sub i've ever had the pleasure of hearing. Having my entire car sound-deadened really helps it shine too, there isn't a rattle anywhere.

Hahahaha, you have discovered the wonders of the car audio bug. I assure you it won't get any better.:laugh:

It's nice to see that your ending up with a nice setup though. I don't know much about those screamers, but you can always change your tweeters since your running active.

There's stores on ebay that sell baffle rings. I have a pair for 6.5's sitting on the table in my den. Honestly you could probably get a pair cheaper by starting a thread saying you want to buy a pair.

Been keeping an eye on your thread.

WheresTheButta
05-31-2009, 11:12 AM
I already have plates for my JL ZR woofers. I wonder if they'll fit the morel woofers... My stock holes are 5x7. If they don't fit the morel woofers it will be easy to get plates made up at the local shop, but it sure would be nice if I could re-use the same plates.

headless
05-31-2009, 01:24 PM
stinger cables blow

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383451&highlight=stinger

WheresTheButta
06-01-2009, 10:40 AM
Thanks for the info. If I get any signal disruption the first place I'll look is the interconnects.

I think I might have to replace my alternator sometime soon. I have been waiting for a compelling reason to swap it, since it's not strong enough as is. Adding another amp might just kill it outright.

When I sit at a traffic light and idle, the rpms dip when the bass hits. This only happens at high volumes, but it's still a terrible sign. Any suggestions for a good, solid, reliable H/O alternator? I'm going to upgrade my big 3 to 0/1 when I put the new alt in.

WheresTheButta
06-01-2009, 10:57 PM
Holy cow! I got the earthquake screamers today...
These things are beastly. They are the most rugged looking dome tweeters I have ever seen in my entire life. I knew the specs, but holding one in my hand was surreal. I need to find the charger for my camera so I can take a comparison pic to my old tweets.

- thanks thelow!!!

WheresTheButta
06-02-2009, 11:45 PM
Okay. I did a test install of the screamer tweeters running off my JL 300/2. They are profanely loud. I'm not quite sure if they are as detailed as I would like though, i'll post pics tomorrow and will get a better assessment once I get them running on the ARC amp.

If they don't turn out to be exactly what I was looking for, I am going to build some tower speakers. I'll pair them with my JL ZR woofers as mids and an old set of kicker CVR 10" woofers as lows. That's my backup plan =)

WheresTheButta
06-03-2009, 10:25 AM
PICS FINALLY! I can't figure out how to get them on this forum via photobucket though.

http://s708.photobucket.com/albums/ww85/bd3772469/?albumview=grid

DEdwards
06-03-2009, 10:30 AM
PICS FINALLY! I can't figure out how to get them on this forum via photobucket though.

http://s708.photobucket.com/albums/ww85/bd3772469/?albumview=grid


those look quite loud....and that cut you have on your hand looks like it could get infected...lol

WheresTheButta
06-03-2009, 10:36 AM
haha they are quite loud =)

That's just a scab / scar forming from a cut two weeks back, i'm not worried about infection anymore :P

djman37
06-03-2009, 11:51 AM
i didn't use the provided crossover, i set mine for 2k with an 18db slope. you may want to adjust your EQ if they aren't as bright or detailed as your previous metal domes.

nismos14
06-03-2009, 11:55 AM
I would have gone with some other tweeters personally. Especially when you're wanting detail out of them. Even a passive 3-way setup would have been an amazing choice.

macq32
06-03-2009, 03:10 PM
I have an Eclipse with all Dynaudio in it....it rocks...md102, md142, and mw172 all active off of a drz9255 head unit...flat out tons of balls and head room....

I also have a SC400 with Hybrid Audio L4's in the Nakamichi enclosures...and L1's in the factory locations and it screams as well....

Can't go wrong with either set....


you know thats a chick car right?


Okay. I did a test install of the screamer tweeters running off my JL 300/2. They are profanely loud. I'm not quite sure if they are as detailed as I would like though, i'll post pics tomorrow and will get a better assessment once I get them running on the ARC amp.

If they don't turn out to be exactly what I was looking for, I am going to build some tower speakers. I'll pair them with my JL ZR woofers as mids and an old set of kicker CVR 10" woofers as lows. That's my backup plan =)

they are called screamers... maybe that title's appropriate:confused:

WheresTheButta
06-04-2009, 12:38 AM
I just got the ARC amp today. Once I get the dynamat I'll have everything. I slated the install for saturday - shouldn't take too long since I already fitted the tweeters. It's pretty straightforward since I don't have to custom fab anything.

I played with the tweeters a little bit today and they sound a little better if I don't push them as hard. They don't really sparkle at the top end, but I'm going to play with some settings to see if I can change that. The tweeters I was running before were JL ZR tweets - they had some nice detail but were extremely harsh and not nearly as loud as the earthquake tweets. (not even in the same ballpark in terms of output level)

WheresTheButta
06-04-2009, 02:15 PM
Update - dynamat is here!

That's everything. I'll take alot of pics on saturday.