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99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 10:01 AM
so im going for the impossible...trying to fit 1 solo x 18 into my 99 mits eclipse. i know the only way to fit this would be to wall it off right behind my headrest. does anyone have any ideas that could work, that would save me my back seats? i heard i need 12 cubes of room, but im not sure if thats a guess or the exact. if i can get this to work, i can easily hit in the 155's. thanks for all your time.

cj407
05-13-2009, 10:05 AM
155???? lmao

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 10:05 AM
so im going for the impossible...trying to fit 1 solo x 18 into my 99 mits eclipse. i know the only way to fit this would be to wall it off right behind my headrest. does anyone have any ideas that could work, that would save me my back seats? i heard i need 12 cubes of room, but im not sure if thats a guess or the exact. if i can get this to work, i can easily hit in the 155's. thanks for all your time.

Way too many variables, and if you're planning 155's on music, I'm afraid you're dreaming sir. Good woofer, tons of displacement, just not that loud. If you're talking about burping at 55, possibly.

You SHOULD be able to do it without a wall, there's quite a few people who are running a dual 15 setup under the window line just behind the rear seats. The Solo X's do like larger boxes though, as you indicated.

You will not have room behind your rear seats to do it either, you're gonna have to take those seats out if you want to accomplish any type of goals.

Also, it's time to start looking for alternators and trying to keep in mind room for your amplifier and batteries. You have a pretty good job ahead of you. Check around the forum and try to talk to people who have more experience with your particular vehicle.

rickymac21
05-13-2009, 10:18 AM
a sub isnt what gets you in the 150's.. its your power. and not just your amps power but your power supply as in batteries, alternators, wires etc... 155 is a bit high of expectations on music for that sub.... and actually i have seen people do 2 18's in a non wall in an eclipse and do 153's on music.. those were 2 tc sounds lms ultras. also had 9 batteries... takes more to get loud than your thinking unfortunatly

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 10:22 AM
a sub isnt what gets you in the 150's.. its your power. and not just your amps power but your power supply as in batteries, alternators, wires etc... 155 is a bit high of expectations on music for that sub.... and actually i have seen people do 2 18's in a non wall in an eclipse and do 153's on music.. those were 2 tc sounds lms ultras. also had 9 batteries... takes more to get loud than your thinking unfortunatly

I agree for the most part. The woofers have a little bit to do with it, granted that Solo X is going to need a recone or two if you run more than 3k rms in a daily enclosure to it.

Fact of the matter is, with TWO of these 18's, 6k rms on tap with a strong electrical, wall, and a good box build, you're still going to have a hell of a time doing a 55 on music, I dont honestly think it possible in the vehicle and this situation, but you never know.

Once again, best of luck to you. Plan on upgrading your electrical first, then worry about substage. Also, make friends with a designer and someone who has experience with your vehicle.


And those two 18" Ultras were pretty nice in the video, the front glass moved like hell.

rickymac21
05-13-2009, 10:26 AM
^^^^yeeeaaah. he knows what im talking about.. those ultras are sick !

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 12:15 PM
i dont plan on running over 3k daily. and i do realize im going to need a high output alternator and probably another battery or 2. i plan on getting 2 kicker 2500's for now, until i have the money to upgrade. all i needed to know was if there was any way i could fit it behind my rear seats. thanks for all your help guys.

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Two kicker 2500's will put you in excess of 5k rms, they're pretty **** solid amplifiers.

With two 2500.1's, I would suggest, at least, a 200+ amp alternator and 3-4 group 31 batteries.

And nope, take the rear seats out and get to it. Good luck and keep us updated bud

schackel
05-13-2009, 12:27 PM
go for two fi btl 18s and you will be louder for sure

Lil Poot
05-13-2009, 12:36 PM
x2

2 kx or zx2500.1's is mucho power even "for now."

and dudes eclipse slams.

"hold the film, i'll play something that hits." :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUL3dFx3U_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQ5sU40mLA

SicAudio
05-13-2009, 12:36 PM
in a less than optimum enclosure you can do it but not with 12 cf. good luck getting a 1 note wonder sub to hit 140 on music in that car unless you do as already suggested and wall it off. you would be better off with 3 - 12's IMO or 2 really good 12's and 5kw

GiganticPrune
05-13-2009, 12:57 PM
that box for the 2-18's is sealed right?

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 01:01 PM
Are you talking about the two Ultra's? IIRC, it's ported. In fact, I'm almost positive it's ported.

GiganticPrune
05-13-2009, 01:11 PM
Are you talking about the two Ultra's? IIRC, it's ported. In fact, I'm almost positive it's ported.


the box doesnt look that big though..i mean looking at all that flex, its gotta be ported; but it just looks small to me (for 18's at least)

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 01:12 PM
the box doesnt look that big though..i mean looking at all that flex, its gotta be ported; but it just looks small to me (for 18's at least)

By all means, I hear ya.

At the same time, Eclipses flex pretty easily from what I can tell, and once they start they dont stop, they just keep on falling apart haha

If I'm not mistaken, the box also gets plenty deeper with the removal of the rear seats, there's a dip there that allows the depth of the box to increase quite a bit. I might be wrong though.

hazardous0388
05-13-2009, 01:15 PM
dont wall off your vehicle. do it below the window line. heres one of my 2 15 inch installs that got pretty loud.

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/hazardous0388/1120081621.jpg

and this is in my 2003 eclipse gs

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i267/hazardous0388/1120081622a.jpg

marcotheclepto
05-13-2009, 01:17 PM
if this is the video im thinking of cant check cause school blocks you tube. the box is ported and tned really low i believe he mentioned tuned to around 10 and its T shaped it extends into the trunk.

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 01:17 PM
"Pretty" Loud, Hazardous?

Btw, if I'm not mistaken OP that was two 15" Heavyweights on an AB500.1 at .5ohm, which is roughly the same amount of power as you'll be using

What kind of numbers did it put up, Hazardous?

MisterGrubbs
05-13-2009, 01:20 PM
It was an atomic 5000.1 at half ohm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIFIk5ViJcQ&feature=related

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 04:50 PM
hazardous thanks a ton for the pics. right now im leaning towards an enclosure like that. i didnt want a wall, and yours is near perfect. i gave kicker a call, and they said the smallest box for an 18 is 5cubes, which is pretty **** small. he reccommended 8cubes, and if i can get a get a box looking somewhat like yours, it should be around 9 or 10? wheres yours at? except id have the solo right in between where your 15s are. thanks again for all your guys' help...appreciate it

rickymac21
05-13-2009, 06:50 PM
seriously though. im not hateing on your solo x. but like someone said before you could slump so much harder (expecially for music) if you went with somthing like FI.. 2 fully loaded 18" (or 15's) BL's would get you what your looking for without a doubt... that is when you get the alt, batteries, etc.. multiple runs of power and grounds... takes a lot of work and $$ to break 150's on music... but good luck ! btw, those 2 18" lms ultras are in a box somewhere around 12 cubes net. so only 6 cubes per 18. you could do that. i built a box similiar with my 18" mt's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3tAXUOrf0

itssteve
05-13-2009, 07:16 PM
hell yeah lets all ride the FI is louder than everything bonner

cj407
05-13-2009, 07:46 PM
no fi isnt tha loudest....but those solo-x's are the hardest thing to sell and are crappy as far as effiency and musical prowess...

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:22 PM
i know 2 18s or 15 would beat a solo, but for the money available, a solo x is what im set on...for now. no one believes i can fit one in an eclipse, so im planning on it, beating whatever they have, then after a while seeing where my options stand. im also using it to help rep my brother, who will build the box, to get credit and show off some talent without completely destroying my car. gotta understand...nebraska has systems, but not a lot. an x would pput me in decent position

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:24 PM
money available....what is the budget...i'm sure you could get another quality sub of equal wattage for the same if not less...

Mr. Slate
05-13-2009, 08:25 PM
You could go as little as 3^3 in a sealed box.

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:26 PM
solo in a sealed box.....lmao

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:26 PM
the sub was 450. workin on the kicker 2500s for under 500, though it might be tough

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:27 PM
and of course the box wont cost much...i sure hope my brother could cut me a deal

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:28 PM
450 could have gotten you a brand new shipped AudioQue HDC318....and wouldve been nice off one of those 2500's

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:31 PM
dont they only peak at 2k?

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:32 PM
no...they can take more....just thats what its rated at.

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:34 PM
if i had known that before, i wouldve taken it into consideration. $463.50 is the shipped price for the 18. and i see you know they guy whos giving it to me...caps. looks like you 2 get along great...

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:36 PM
you need to get a refund on that thing. never hit any more than a 137 with that thing.

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:38 PM
i dont think he ever ran it off more than 1k power though...i could be wrong, and by no means am i picking sides. just from what i hear

cj407
05-13-2009, 08:40 PM
if you can get a 137 out of an 18 and 1k there seems to be a problem.....either with sub efficiency or box design....i call out both.

just look how many solo-x's are for sale on this forum.....tons..

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 08:44 PM
i did hear from him that he hit 143at 32 hertz. but im not sure how well it would perform if i hooked up over twice the power, and in a hatch. the box i could care less about, thats his problem (=

rickymac21
05-13-2009, 09:34 PM
hell yeah lets all ride the FI is louder than everything bonner

thats not what im saying.. i am saying for the money he could have gotten 2 18" bls or even q's fully loaded for the same price or a little more... I was only using the FI's as an example...

Mr. Slate
05-13-2009, 10:16 PM
solo in a sealed box.....lmao
Have you purchased the sub yet?

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:05 PM
i should be getting it tues. or wed. i havent yet, but it would take a lot for me to go back on it now. the money transfer will happen friday at the latest

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:07 PM
take alot....like how cheap you can get a brand new in box 18 with warranty for 60 dollars less....

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:08 PM
and only need 6 cubes to fit it.....instead of solo 8-12 cube

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:11 PM
what sub are we talking?

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:12 PM
Aq Hdc318

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:13 PM
**** only 289 each and fit in 6 cubes nicely

audiom3
05-13-2009, 11:15 PM
You will have plenty of room for this sub I fit it in the trunk of my mazda3 and it had right around 8cf of airspace. I can totally see where you are coming from about wanting this sub because I could have gotten louder off 2 15"s in the trunk but I wanted the solo x lol

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:17 PM
its a hard sub to turn down! i think the new models look great too. and i can tell how much you like the aqs haha. do you have any pics of the box audiom3?

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:18 PM
no even that...its just an example...if you wanna put an 18 in your car there are much cheaper options....that will be louder and sound better.

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:21 PM
yeah the music part is a definate down, but competition wise i think itll surprise. the local shop brought down their hummer with 2 solos and beat for a while, granted they were running on a warhorse. considering theres no way id buy one, it was a nice dream

audiom3
05-13-2009, 11:23 PM
here is my build thread http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314863&highlight=mazda3 and I ended up having to do a lot more bracing because the sub tore the box apart :) 1/2" threaded steel rod and some lock nuts helped out a lot in this situation

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:24 PM
if all you are looking for is to be another guy with a solo-x be my guest but roll up to a local shop or competition beating with an Fi, RD, Sundown, AA, AQ, DD sub and they will wonder wtf where did you get that....how much are they.....it sounds so great....be the life of the scene...instead of another boner who fell trap to the solo-x black hole.

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:26 PM
remember...nebraska. no ones smart enough to use an online site, and the solo retails at 2 grand. ill be the only one, let alone throw it in an eclipse

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:28 PM
hey your car....your dream i jus hate to see someone get it and realize it is the garbage everyone says it is.

hazardous0388
05-13-2009, 11:28 PM
if you want to do a solo x 18 then do it, they work very WELL in small boxes so dont think different. there has been many tests that can prove this.

also i never got numbers when i did that RD / Atomic install, but i will be getting numbers soon when i get my new install done which will be in the same category.

Two AudioQue HDC3 15s powered by my stetsom 4k2d

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:29 PM
haha audio i kinda figured it would do a little damage. its a nice tight fit though, i like it. you still have it in there?

audiom3
05-13-2009, 11:30 PM
if all you are looking for is to be another guy with a solo-x be my guest but roll up to a local shop or competition beating with an Fi, RD, Sundown, AA, AQ, DD sub and they will wonder wtf where did you get that....how much are they.....it sounds so great....be the life of the scene...instead of another boner who fell trap to the solo-x black hole.

I did it because I though it was a bad *** sub, and im sure that is the same reason you are doing it! So have fun and good luck because no matter what you will probably be happy with how loud it gets :)

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:31 PM
cj a lot of people have good things to say about it. id be glad if i got 20 people telling me its a garbage sub, but the only other ones who are, advertise their own stuff. i appreicate your opinion, dont get me wrong, but im getting more positive than negative feedback

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:32 PM
until you hear what a real 18" sub with good musical response sounds.....

audiom3
05-13-2009, 11:32 PM
nah I actually tore it out yesterday because I bought a new car so I need to sell that one
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs011.snc1/4195_77146029268_505234268_1602931_56290_n.jpg

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:33 PM
I did it because I though it was a bad *** sub, and im sure that is the same reason you are doing it! So have fun and good luck because no matter what you will probably be happy with how loud it gets :)

did you ever get it tested?

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:33 PM
i'm not advertising what i own...**** i own a DD 3510 boxed in a CRX....and i get loud and low....no need for a advertisement as everyone knows DD...I'm just warning you as i've already seen the sub in action...that exact one. and it sounded like crap.

Mr. Slate
05-13-2009, 11:34 PM
I was sponsored by Kicker in 2003-2004. I was the first competitor in the Northeast to have them. I really know that sub and when I say you could use a small sealed box, I don't think you'll be disappointed.
I had 2 in a small ported box (10^3) in my Navigator.

audiom3
05-13-2009, 11:37 PM
yeah it was metered with the xx herc and it did a 138.7 on music but when I opened the trunk after the run was over the entire back of the box had come off so far I could put my hand in it lol. After I upgraded to a xx colossus and braced the box I never had it metered on a tl but I did have a meter that was supposed to be accurate to ~1db of the tl(cant remember the name of it ) and would do somewhere around a 147ish so that gives you some idea and the box was still leaking air fyi

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:42 PM
yeah that build looks hard as hell. cj i never said you were advertising, im saying the other posts were. your the only one with an honest opinion...i respect that. mr slate, do you have any build pics? please and thanks

99mitseclipse
05-13-2009, 11:49 PM
if you want to do a solo x 18 then do it, they work very WELL in small boxes so dont think different. there has been many tests that can prove this.

also i never got numbers when i did that RD / Atomic install, but i will be getting numbers soon when i get my new install done which will be in the same category.

Two AudioQue HDC3 15s powered by my stetsom 4k2d

make sure to let me know how it goes...youve peaked my interest

Mr. Slate
05-13-2009, 11:53 PM
yeah that build looks hard as hell. cj i never said you were advertising, im saying the other posts were. your the only one with an honest opinion...i respect that. mr slate, do you have any build pics? please and thanks

This was in my Navi.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d171/nhk218/Navi2003-1.jpg

cj407
05-13-2009, 11:57 PM
keyword in everyone who has recommended it to you is...WAS as in they no longer use them.

Mr. Slate
05-13-2009, 11:59 PM
I no longer do that class. For what he's looking for and he won't be overpowering them, he'll be O.K.

audiom3
05-14-2009, 12:00 AM
I would still have it if I could but would you advise putting a 100lb sub in a 350z, I wouldn't not to mention I would never get enough airspace for it.

Mr. Slate
05-14-2009, 12:02 AM
Again, everyones talking air space. They work just fine in a small sealed enclosure.

cj407
05-14-2009, 12:03 AM
would you advise putting any audio into a CRX that has been built to be a 13 second car...NO but i do it and find a way cuz i love what i do.

mr.michael
05-14-2009, 12:08 AM
[QUOTE=Cochese;6152440]x2

2 kx or zx2500.1's is mucho power even "for now."

and dudes eclipse slams.

whats the difference between a zx and kx?

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 12:24 AM
X2 on the difference on the zx and kx. And I'm pretty sure everyone uses crxs for comps? Lol last time I checked three were fir sale on this site and both my local shops had them. #1 for loud hatchbacks?

cj407
05-14-2009, 12:27 AM
but also...those didnt have a motor built to take 100 shot of nitrous....and run 13 second qtr mile's N/A

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 12:32 AM
Ive got a plastic fiero that runs a 12. Cost about 2k. Point is those cars are made to get loud. What can you burp at?

cj407
05-14-2009, 12:35 AM
burp...i know of no such thing....music is the only competition that matters.

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 12:44 AM
.....ok then. Break the sound barrier with music. What amp are you runnin?

Lil Poot
05-14-2009, 12:55 AM
not much difference between the kx and the zx besides the case. i think one of them doesnt have a fan, and i know my old kx2500.1 had a fan.

cj407
05-14-2009, 12:56 AM
an amp to push my sub(s) just nicely at ~4k @ 2ohms.

MakeshiftAudio
05-14-2009, 12:58 AM
One is 1 ohm stable, the other isn't, or at least I thought they were.

cheeseburger35
05-14-2009, 01:05 AM
One is 1 ohm stable, the other isn't, or at least I thought they were.

zx's aren't 1 ohm stable.. i don't think the kx2500 is . .. i know the 1200's were..

MakeshiftAudio
05-14-2009, 01:09 AM
Hm. I must of gotten mixed up. I remember seeing one model being 1 ohm stable and me going :confused:

Thanks for correcting me. :)

Annnarbor84
05-14-2009, 01:14 AM
I just laugh in the inside when I see "7k amp @1ohm". Do people really thing they are getting 7k out of a 7k amp, lmfao. You are lucky to see 3500 rms from it. Some people are completely fvcking dumb when it comes to rise:rolleyes: Good start op!

mr.michael
05-14-2009, 02:55 AM
ur high dude. the sundown 3000d gives 3000 watts and more :fyi:

Annnarbor84
05-14-2009, 03:07 AM
ur high dude. the sundown 3000d gives 3000 watts and more :fyi:

You sir are a fvcking idiot. You know nothing about box rise, etc... Stfu;)

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 08:23 AM
an amp to push my sub(s) just nicely at ~4k @ 2ohms.

and you bass race at 129.9? with 4k watts? am i missing something or are you missing something?

99mitseclipse
05-14-2009, 08:43 AM
the poeple who used to have solo xs had reasons to get rid of them. i dont blame him for not putting it in his 350z. and thanks for the pics of the navigator, thats a very nice build. thanks again guys for all your ideas

cj407
05-14-2009, 09:50 AM
and you bass race at 129.9? with 4k watts? am i missing something or are you missing something?

yea you are missing something....the fact i was doing 129.9 bass race with a DD 3510 and a Cerwin Vega EXL-1200D a faulty ground, voltage dip to 9v, and box rise of 2.5 and still able to run a 129.9 constant...not to bad for 1 10" on music....new system is 4k.

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 10:23 AM
Oh ok. That amp must draw a ton of power if you're dropping to 9v. And I'm not sure if you have room to say a solo x ***** when you bass race at 129.9. I'm just saying. 20db away.

cj407
05-14-2009, 10:28 AM
man...maybe you should look it up...Bonecrusher competed using 32 10's in bass race 129.9 and he's competed in 139.9 and 149.9 (and iirc 159.9)....its all about the challenge and having fun. so stick that garbage you talk about being a 150 on music with a solo-x up your *** where you like things shoved.

caps
05-14-2009, 10:31 AM
Oh ok. That amp must draw a ton of power if you're dropping to 9v. And I'm not sure if you have room to say a solo x ***** when you bass race at 129.9. I'm just saying. 20db away.

he doesnt, he just likes talking smack.


and cj thanks for the help making a sale, i never could have done it without you :p:

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff24/capsisking/Picture1-1.png

caps
05-14-2009, 10:33 AM
and dont bother replying cj cause im going back to being on vacation with my girl in San Juan. something you will never know about, and yes it is great being me.

99mitseclipse
05-14-2009, 11:43 AM
haha he really did help. cj it sounds kinda like a lot of people dont like you?

jblw12gti
05-14-2009, 12:56 PM
Cj I don't care about bonecrusher. It's the fact that you compete in a pansy class that gives you no right to talk.

99mitseclipse
05-14-2009, 04:49 PM
caps i shouldve asked you...any ideas on how to put it in my eclipse? i really liked the other elcipse design posted on here. or does anyone else have any ideas about the box, or the solo x performance wise?

Lil Poot
05-15-2009, 05:30 PM
zx's aren't 1 ohm stable.. i don't think the kx2500 is . .. i know the 1200's were..

neither amp is listed as being 1 ohm stable. many of them are though, i ran a kx2500.1 at 1 ohm for over a year and abused the hell out of it. never gave me a problem.

Annnarbor84
05-16-2009, 01:40 AM
neither amp is listed as being 1 ohm stable. many of them are though, i ran a kx2500.1 at 1 ohm for over a year and abused the hell out of it. never gave me a problem.

That is because of rise, you were well above 2ohms I am sure;)