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livinloud89
05-05-2009, 02:24 AM
I currently have the Focal 165 K2P's in the front and Focal 165 VR's in the back. They are good speakers very detailed but they are harsh & hard to tune. They are either too harsh or too neutral by neutral I mean the sound becomes hollow. Im looking for speakers that sound very natural and smooth that don't hurt the ears and dont cause fatigue. What do you guys recommend? Ive heard the HERTZ MLK 165's and wasnt impressed. I am very picky when it comes to speakers. ;)

This is my current setup with pics :)

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384772

Ive been considering the polk sr6500's what do you guys think?

gearhound17
05-05-2009, 02:30 AM
You will probably get a ton of different responses on this one.
For me I am an MB Quart fan.
I had a set, loved them, sold them, then bought a set of Kicker RS6C's.
The Kickers were harsh, very harsh. I wasnt happy despite all of the positive reviews.
Sold that set and now have a german made set of 6.5 components.
Not fatiguing. not harsh.
Every time I turn them on I am happy.
But since they are now made in China (or wherever they are made now) I may end up switching to a different brand. Eventually.

basebalz13
05-05-2009, 02:35 AM
what kind of budget are you working with here?

livinloud89
05-05-2009, 02:36 AM
probably $500-$700

Sythlord79
05-05-2009, 02:38 AM
Ive heard the JL Audio C5 series and they are much smoother. I considered buying them cause I own the Focal utopia's right now and they are harsh just like you describe, I think they use the same tweeter.

livinloud89
05-05-2009, 02:41 AM
any other suggestions im looking for the smoothest and most accurate 6.5 comp set.

Shocks
05-05-2009, 04:19 AM
Harsh huh? Where are your tweets at? What level are they set at? I would mess around with that first before getting another set. Focal K2Ps are awesome speakers. Not hard to tune at all.

krazyl3gz
05-05-2009, 06:45 AM
You could try the Hybrid Audio Clarus set.

cx-7heaven
05-05-2009, 06:54 AM
I loved the sound of my old Alpine type x.... the 177r, very smooth and airy. I have not heard any of the new alpines however. The old ones used the vifa tweeter, which is very nice, the polks sr's look like they use the same tweeter.

SQChevy
05-05-2009, 12:33 PM
Ive heard the JL Audio C5 series and they are much smoother. I considered buying them cause I own the Focal utopia's right now and they are harsh just like you describe, I think they use the same tweeter.

Which Focal Utopia's do you own? How are they harsh? What kind of power? How are they eq'd? Where are they located?

I had my Focal Utopia Be's installed in my truck and they were not harsh at all. I had people get out of my truck who were very big into home systems (both theater and stereo (for music)) and they were amazed at the sound. I'm shocked to hear them described as harsh.

basebalz13
05-05-2009, 01:00 PM
u have PM sir

gqjeff
05-05-2009, 01:03 PM
On the K2P's what do you have them set at 0 db or where?

probmxstyle
05-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Get the polks and dont look back. They are extremely smooth, detailed, and natural sounding.

Frijoles24
05-05-2009, 01:14 PM
i just replaced my focal kp2 tweeters with morel mt11 for that same reason. waaay too harsh i kept the mid driver. now it sounds crispy and thick warm. i like =)

gqjeff
05-05-2009, 01:28 PM
i just replaced my focal kp2 tweeters with morel mt11 for that same reason. waaay too harsh i kept the mid driver. now it sounds crispy and thick warm. i like =)

Where did you have the tweets set on the focals? I am waiting for new RCA cables to run my full system but last night I played my K2P's I just got at -3 DP and they are not harsh at all but kick total ***? Thats why I am asking?????

redcalimp5
05-05-2009, 01:52 PM
Sounds like Morel is right up your alley. Warm, smooth, and detailed.

MrDave
05-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Smooth and natural? That has DynAudio written all over it. May be out of your budget, however.

You can get some pretty decent sets from DLS on the low, and they will certainly be more laid back.

IDSkoT
05-05-2009, 01:59 PM
I currently have the Focal 165 K2P's in the front and Focal 165 VR's in the back. They are good speakers very detailed but they are harsh & hard to tune. They are either too harsh or too neutral by neutral I mean the sound becomes hollow. Im looking for speakers that sound very natural and smooth that don't hurt the ears and dont cause fatigue. What do you guys recommend? Ive heard the HERTZ MLK 165's and wasnt impressed. I am very picky when it comes to speakers. ;)

This is my current setup with pics :)

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=384772

Ive been considering the polk sr6500's what do you guys think?

Really? That's depressing. I love my HSK165's. I was thinking about getting the MLK's.

gqjeff
05-05-2009, 04:30 PM
Where did you have the tweets set on the focals? I am waiting for new RCA cables to run my full system but last night I played my K2P's I just got at -3 DP and they are not harsh at all but kick total ***? Thats why I am asking?????


Anybody?

ramos
05-05-2009, 05:55 PM
I'm rather fond of my Hybrid Audio Clarus components :)

DEdwards
05-05-2009, 06:08 PM
I'm rather fond of my Hybrid Audio Clarus components :)



but your biased!!!:D

bamaboy
05-05-2009, 06:33 PM
where did you hear the MLK's at?

they could of had the small chamber cup on the tweeter, i love the smoothness on my MLK 2s, not 1 bit harsh, and im picky on harshness

bmwproboi05
05-05-2009, 07:27 PM
Boston pro se , or the spz. My cousin has pros in his car, and he came from k2p and really likes the pro. They aren't as detailed in some areas.However they sound warmer

bamaboy
05-05-2009, 07:31 PM
I wouldn't recommend the pros if your complaining of harshness

IMO

Jumbo Jet
05-05-2009, 07:54 PM
I wouldn't recommend the pros if your complaining of harshness

IMO

I second that. My Pro 60's were very bright and fatiguing.

basebalz13
05-05-2009, 08:01 PM
but your biased!!!:D

x2 ur opinion doesnt count :D

DEdwards
05-05-2009, 08:01 PM
x2 ur opinion doesnt count :D


My opinion doesn't count because everyone knows what I would say;)

gqjeff
05-05-2009, 09:15 PM
Nobody can just say what they had the tweets set at on the K2P's?

xx24xx
05-06-2009, 01:41 AM
I doubt you would try these, but I will suggest anyway. DDA W high end comp set. I have heard EXCELLENT reviews. The tweeter is on par with Dynaudio! They are very detailed and get very loud too.

I have some on the way. I will give a good review later, running active.

lyttleviet
05-06-2009, 01:58 AM
Sounds like Morel is right up your alley. Warm, smooth, and detailed.

agreed.

cshaw
05-06-2009, 02:09 AM
i agree with you on the hertz. i rock the hsk's though and i like them and all but i used to have a pair of mmats comps and i really dig there tweeter. i installed my hertz with the mmats tweeter and its pretty nice. i actually prefer the mmats tweeter.

but as long as your still cool with the mid and x/o setup of the hertz maybe you should just try out different tweeters instead of buying new comps.

Frijoles24
05-06-2009, 02:21 AM
Where did you have the tweets set on the focals? I am waiting for new RCA cables to run my full system but last night I played my K2P's I just got at -3 DP and they are not harsh at all but kick total ***? Thats why I am asking?????

um. i had them where the stock tweets went. yea i played them at -3 too
it just burned my ears. but then again, my ears are really sensitive to high freq.

gqjeff
05-06-2009, 10:58 AM
um. i had them where the stock tweets went. yea i played them at -3 too
it just burned my ears. but then again, my ears are really sensitive to high freq.


Did you try them at -4,-5 or -6?

bmwproboi05
05-07-2009, 01:15 AM
I wouldn't recommend the pros if your complaining of harshness

IMO

the new pro se use the same tweeters as the spz.