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dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 10:50 PM
in particular im looking at rack mount amps to do a loud *** sub setup in my house...

this amp in particular

http://www.beachaudio.com/Pyle/Pzr10xa-p-161503.html

$189 for what seems to be over 1,500 watts x 2 @8 ohms?

anyone know some real numbers and ohm loads this thing works at because im getting different numbers from almost every site

Random1010
05-04-2009, 10:53 PM
You have absolutely no need for that much power.

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 10:55 PM
is that a realistic number....or is it like the rest of pyle's stuff and youd assume its gonna do like 500 x 2 @ 8

JL Audio
05-04-2009, 10:56 PM
You have absolutely no need for that much power.

neither does chicken but doesn't he has like 4 15" BTLs in his house :/...


:laugh:

Random1010
05-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Not sure. Probably better than Pyle car audio but still not good.

Random1010
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
neither does chicken but doesn't he has like 4 15" BTLs in his house :/...


:laugh:

I'm ordering a 1000 watt Mcintosh Monoblock for a HT 18" but I'm not normal

dumple
05-04-2009, 10:57 PM
* 2 x 170W RMS (20Hz to 20kHz) @ 8Ohm 0.1% THD
* 2 x 220W RMS (1kHz) @ 4Ohm 0.1% THD -

says it on the output part

JL Audio
05-04-2009, 10:59 PM
* 2 x 170W RMS (20Hz to 20kHz) @ 8Ohm 0.1% THD
* 2 x 220W RMS (1kHz) @ 4Ohm 0.1% THD -

says it on the output part

there ya go.

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:02 PM
off the pyle website

# 1650 Watts x 2 Power
# Dual Output Level Controls
# Signal Indicators
# Protection and Clip Indicators
# Power On/Off Switch

dumple
05-04-2009, 11:04 PM
off the pyle website

# 1650 Watts x 2 Power
# Dual Output Level Controls
# Signal Indicators
# Protection and Clip Indicators
# Power On/Off Switch

im assuming that these work the same way as car audio amps in the way that 1650x2 power is a max rating

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:07 PM
then ill change my answer...

whats my best bet in finding 1500 watts @ 1 or 2 ohms without spending $800 on a plate amp

Random1010
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
Why do you need that power? Have you ever heard a well positioned 250w?

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:09 PM
hmmm just found a dayton that does 1024 @ 4 for $350...probably wont do better than that

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:10 PM
cause im having dreams of putting 1kw + on a xxx 18" tuned to like 22 htz in my house for parties

andrewmoore13
05-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Computer PSUs and a normal car audio amp.

Cheapest way to get your 1500W

2 or 3 ought to do the trick. Yellow is +, Black is -

You have to ground a wire or something to make the PSU put out power.

Random1010
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
cause im having dreams of putting 1kw + on a xxx 18" tuned to like 22 htz in my house for parties

250 watts on an efficient 12" can EASILY be heard 3 houses away. 1k on an 18" will literally be heard blocks away. Bad attention. Also is your home electrical up to 1kw?

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
a nice car audio amp that puts out 1500 watts @ 4 ohms would probably end up costing more than that dayton plate amp

vario
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/280617-REG/Behringer_EP2500_EP2500_2_Channel_Rackmount.html

These are great.

I have the ep1500. Its a cheap QSC Clone. Great. Performs to rated specs.

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
250 watts on an efficient 12" can EASILY be heard 3 houses away. 1k on an 18" will literally be heard blocks away. Bad attention. Also is your home electrical up to 1kw?


probably not....can we settle on a 500 watt plate then?

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
get a behringer, qsc, or dayton. Partsexpress has the dayton and behringer. Also there is a site called musiciansfriend or something like that, oh gemsound is kinda cheap power too. Those are your best bets.

dumple
05-04-2009, 11:14 PM
250 watts on an efficient 12" can EASILY be heard 3 houses away. 1k on an 18" will literally be heard blocks away. Bad attention. Also is your home electrical up to 1kw?
i think 1kw is over kill for a house my house at school we have 2 speakers each with a 15 and a 12 and a horn tweeter or something and each is getting 250ish and it shakes **** off the walls and is pleeeenty loud

Bender.
05-04-2009, 11:15 PM
250 watts on an efficient 12" can EASILY be heard 3 houses away. 1k on an 18" will literally be heard blocks away. Bad attention. Also is your home electrical up to 1kw?

lol throw some 0 gauge in that wall *****

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:15 PM
how about a 500 watt bash amp for 185, a MJ18, and like 7 cubes ported tuned around 28htz

vario
05-04-2009, 11:16 PM
how about a 500 watt bash amp for 185, a MJ18, and like 7 cubes ported tuned around 28htz

Read my post above. Get the behringer ep1500 or ep2500. Done.

I run a 15 on it and it shakes the entire house and probably my neighbors. Ep1500 is 1400 watts rms at 4 ohm. Ep2500 is 2400 watts rms at 4 ohm.

got my 1500 for $100 from a dj.

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
partsexpress has a bunchof plate amps onsale right now. I just got the flier. Also google buttkicker amp, it does like 1000w or something. Is it just music? Then yea 500w is fine, but if you are gonna do big subs with super low tuning, then get all the power you can

dumple
05-04-2009, 11:17 PM
table sub box? lol that be kinda sweet

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:18 PM
if you do get something that does like 1000w or more at 4 ohms lmk, i have 2 mj18 8ohm bnib for sale.

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:19 PM
that ep1500 is almost double the cost of the bash 500 watter....this will be mostly party music for now

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:19 PM
what can 1 single 8 be wired to?

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
actually i was thinking of putting this box under my pool table...so it can be rather large..probably up to around 20 cubes depending on how many woofers i go with

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:20 PM
single coil 8 ohm sub? 8 ohms. 2 single 8 ohm subs, 4 ohm

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:22 PM
hmm might have to do 2 then...what kinda power do the recc. for a pair

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:24 PM
1000w-2000w

dude 2 18s on a behringer ep1500 (1500w) or a dayton rack mount or plate 1000w would hammer. The fuken pool balls would jump of the table lol.

dvrmstrng
05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
what would i do if im using a smaller amp with no sub output for my speakers...

jdawg
05-04-2009, 11:36 PM
you receiver doesnt have a subout, then you are gonna need to get a plate amp with speaker level inputs, the rack mount doesnt have those

you could get 2 of these

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-752

the dayton plate amps dont have speakr level inputs

DidUHearThat?
05-05-2009, 12:44 AM
250 watts on an efficient 12" can EASILY be heard 3 houses away. 1k on an 18" will literally be heard blocks away. Bad attention. Also is your home electrical up to 1kw?

Any standard home electrical outlet built after WWII can easily handle a 1kw amp. Less current draw than a hair dryer.

My two 12's @600w cannot be heard from the street 150 feet away, but knock things off the shelves all over my house. Watching The Dark Knight cleared off a shelf in the upstairs bathroom.

DidUHearThat?
05-05-2009, 12:53 AM
you receiver doesnt have a subout, then you are gonna need to get a plate amp with speaker level inputs, the rack mount doesnt have those

you could get 2 of these

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=300-752

the dayton plate amps dont have speakr level inputs

I second the Bash amps, but several of the dayton plate amps do have speaker level inputs. Mine do.


Get the BASH, Daytons or step up to a crown XTI or 202.

1400 watts at 4 ohm (bridged), Full DSP processing = $339
http://www.audiolines.com/product.php?productid=17231




Pyle = Pile of ****. Waste of money. I woudn't buy Behringer either, but I know many people have had good luck with them.

SSS 18734
05-05-2009, 01:12 AM
Good luck finding a home/pro audio amp that will put out that power at 1 or 2 ohms.

How about 1400 watts at 4 ohms bridged for $370 shipped?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Open-Crown-XTi-1000-XTI1000-HiQnet-AMP-Power-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ220406546319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ LH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335140ff8f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 08|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Open-Crown-XTi-1000-XTI1000-HiQnet-AMP-Power-Amplifier_W0QQitemZ220406546319QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ LH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item335140ff8f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 08|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)

These XTi's will never fail you. You could also search for some older amps if you want to save on the budget.

gotparts90
05-05-2009, 01:58 AM
partsexpress has a bunchof plate amps onsale right now. I just got the flier. Also google buttkicker amp, it does like 1000w or something. Is it just music? Then yea 500w is fine, but if you are gonna do big subs with super low tuning, then get all the power you can

yeah google buttkicker amp + fire its funny. FK beringer i hate their crap I like qsc I would try dayton for a plate amp but I don't like plate amps. but what ever you do do not waste money on pyle or studio pro type crap.

vario
05-05-2009, 08:15 AM
Don't buy a dayton plate amp. I have the 240w one and its nice if you want a clean looking audiophile type subwoofer but if you want to get loud and probably sound better, buy a behringer ep2500 for $250. 2400 watts rms at 4 ohm. You run them on rca to 1/4" (microphone input style) cable or on rca to xlr cable. You would want to run a receiver as a preamplifier to get more signal voltage, not a big deal. Use the sub out on the receiver to y splitter to rca to 1/4" plug.

Hometheatershack.com has been using these things for a long long time to run their HT subs.

the dayton plate amps are very sensitive to bad grounds. Great thing about the b ehringer is that what behringer did was steal a classic QSC amp design and then sell it for half the price. It is virtually the same amp as the QSC rmx 2450.

Xprime4
05-05-2009, 08:38 AM
I was looking for an amp soon for my fi q 18 @ 28hz
I'm currently powering it with around 200watt from a car amp+ 22amp psu setup.

It's already freaking loud. My dog and my cat freaks out when i push the sub a little.

You don't need that much wattage in home seriously.... but i'm interrest with the 2400@4ohm amp. Seriously why is it so cheap?

Also, people at your party will wonder why they feel the air moving so much and aren't hearing the bass that much...

vario
05-05-2009, 09:00 AM
I was looking for an amp soon for my fi q 18 @ 28hz
I'm currently powering it with around 200watt from a car amp+ 22amp psu setup.

It's already freaking loud. My dog and my cat freaks out when i push the sub a little.

You don't need that much wattage in home seriously.... but i'm interrest with the 2400@4ohm amp. Seriously why is it so cheap?

Also, people at your party will wonder why they feel the air moving so much and aren't hearing the bass that much...

Its cheap b/c its a behringer. Behringer is usually garbage gear but their amps perform to rated specs because they stole the design from QSC. Win win for the consumer.

Xprime4
05-05-2009, 09:02 AM
Its cheap b/c its a behringer. Behringer is usually garbage gear but their amps perform to rated specs because they stole the design from QSC. Win win for the consumer.

ok and what kind of electrical upgrade are needed? i mean, dryers are around 1600-2000

DidUHearThat?
05-05-2009, 09:58 AM
:facepalm:

vario
05-05-2009, 11:01 AM
ok and what kind of electrical upgrade are needed? i mean, dryers are around 1600-2000

You will need a battery, 0 gauge wire, and a bigger alternator.





Just plug it into the wall socket and you may want a preamplifier to get a level boost. Get a cheap dj mixer or a Art Cleanbox.

ballstothewall
05-05-2009, 02:27 PM
Its cheap b/c its a behringer. Behringer is usually garbage gear but their amps perform to rated specs because they stole the design from QSC. Win win for the consumer.

No, they don't.

IDSkoT
05-05-2009, 02:34 PM
Why do you need that power? Have you ever heard a well positioned 250w?

lmao... I have a well positioned 75 watt that shakes my whole house. (It's a 3 bed 2 bath regular sized house, and when I turn it up, just half way, the windows in my living room shake.

IDSkoT
05-05-2009, 02:37 PM
ok and what kind of electrical upgrade are needed? i mean, dryers are around 1600-2000

120v x 15 = 1800 watts
120v x 20 = 2400 watts
120v x 30 = 3600 watts
120v x 50 = 6000 watts


These are the most common breakers in your house. Most likely your wall outlet is the 15 ampere one. You should check your circuit box. That means out of that one breaker (it could have quite a few receptacles per breaker) can handle 1800 watts before it switches.
The most you'll have to do is run a bigger AWG wire from the circuit box and use a bigger breaker. But you should hire an electrician to do that for you.

IDSkoT
05-05-2009, 02:40 PM
Don't buy a dayton plate amp. I have the 240w one and its nice if you want a clean looking audiophile type subwoofer but if you want to get loud and probably sound better, buy a behringer ep2500 for $250. 2400 watts rms at 4 ohm. You run them on rca to 1/4" (microphone input style) cable or on rca to xlr cable. You would want to run a receiver as a preamplifier to get more signal voltage, not a big deal. Use the sub out on the receiver to y splitter to rca to 1/4" plug.

Hometheatershack.com has been using these things for a long long time to run their HT subs.

the dayton plate amps are very sensitive to bad grounds. Great thing about the b ehringer is that what behringer did was steal a classic QSC amp design and then sell it for half the price. It is virtually the same amp as the QSC rmx 2450.

Great website, they have good deals on it.

tymoto21
05-05-2009, 02:49 PM
why would you ask do you need that much power.......
fallen has a vid of his ed190.v2 doing 140's 1 meter from the horn mouth off 1krms. that is loud as balls, and it did it relativly flat from like 33-70hz. can you say noise violation? :)

anywho i do like the look of that beringer ep2500.... anyone wana give more info on it, personal experiences?

Hii Im Justin
05-05-2009, 02:57 PM
i got a 500rms plate amp in my room lol need a bigger sub though

IDSkoT
05-05-2009, 02:58 PM
why would you ask do you need that much power.......
fallen has a vid of his ed190.v2 doing 140's 1 meter from the horn mouth off 1krms. that is loud as balls, and it did it relativly flat from like 33-70hz. can you say noise violation? :)

anywho i do like the look of that beringer ep2500.... anyone wana give more info on it, personal experiences?

I don't have a personal experience... but it has a .1%THD. From what I've read on home audio stuff, that's pretty high.

SicAudio
05-05-2009, 04:27 PM
someone earlier mentioned BASH plate amps, from what I read on them about a year ago they are the same ones Klipsch uses in their HT subs that cost a shitload of money.
I had a 300w bash running 2 dvc4 cvr 12's for my HT and it was extremely loud. wish I had it still lolz

dvrmstrng
05-05-2009, 04:51 PM
i think im gonna do a 500 watt bash dont know what sub yet

vario
05-05-2009, 07:01 PM
No, they don't.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10755565#post10755565

2k watts close enough for $270.

ballstothewall
05-07-2009, 01:51 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10755565#post10755565

2k watts close enough for $270.


Still not rated power, but I would rather save just a bit more money and get QSC. I picked up a QSC CX902 for 350, does more power, lot higher quality, and I can beat the crap out of it and it'll still keep on running without a problem.