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taintedplay
04-29-2009, 01:07 AM
cant for the life of me crimp 1/0. i put it down on my concrete garage floor, and used a big bit and a hammer, beat the **** out of it. basically i got one side of the crease under the other, and then presumed to beat more **** out of it. got it to about half its origional size. it doesent pull off, but if i put some force into it it comes right off. any suggestions? or is that good enough?

sound_around
04-29-2009, 01:09 AM
get a crimper there about $12 at airgas...should of seen me doing my 4/0

CJL
04-29-2009, 01:12 AM
I use a flat head screwdriver and a hammer. knock one side down,then do the other.

EDIT: sounds like you got that far. After that point I just beat the **** out of it with the hammer untill its flat enough to hold,Then wrap with some e-tape.

But Im a noob and dont know nothing. :fyi:

99grandprixGT
04-29-2009, 01:12 AM
thats the same way i do it and it has worked fine so far and then some elec tape and then pull on it. if it comes out start over.

MikeCole89
04-29-2009, 01:12 AM
i always just use a vice havent got around to 1/0 yet but i used a vice for my 4awg

sound_around
04-29-2009, 01:13 AM
bunch of half-assers.....

Annnarbor84
04-29-2009, 01:13 AM
cant for the life of me crimp 1/0. i put it down on my concrete garage floor, and used a big bit and a hammer, beat the **** out of it. basically i got one side of the crease under the other, and then presumed to beat more **** out of it. got it to about half its origional size. it doesent pull off, but if i put some force into it it comes right off. any suggestions? or is that good enough?

I use solder and a vise;)

sound_around
04-29-2009, 01:13 AM
just get a crimper man it looks 100% better when done right ;)

Scoobydoo
04-29-2009, 01:14 AM
i just smack it with my **** a few times

etznova
04-29-2009, 01:14 AM
just solder the thing on. get a butane torch heat the ***** up and load it full of solder haven't had one fall yet

geowick07
04-29-2009, 01:14 AM
I use a flat head screwdriver and a hammer. knock one side down,then do the other.

EDIT: sounds like you got that far. After that point I just beat the **** out of it with the hammer untill its flat enough to hold,Then wrap with some e-tape.

But Im a noob and dont know nothing. :fyi:

Flat screwdriver does the trick to get things started. I have had to do this a couple times when the wire/terminal doesn't want to cooperate.
Then, as mentioned above, once it is started, just beat the hell out of it. Sooner or later, it will not come loose.



geo

KEVCO951
04-29-2009, 01:15 AM
I do it the same way. Beat the hell out of it.


:laugh::wow:

sound_around
04-29-2009, 01:15 AM
half-assers....

mazzasec
04-29-2009, 01:18 AM
I do it the same way. Beat the hell out of it.

TnT_Sounds
04-29-2009, 01:54 AM
Airgas crimpers range from $10-$80 bucks.

I have on of them big ones that are hydraulic nad-helds that work real well.. Once crimped we could never get the terminal off.

adampit
04-29-2009, 08:07 AM
I use an old marine crimper like this one for 0 guage

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31rEcCQ1zOL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

01 S 10
04-29-2009, 08:10 AM
hammer + screwdriver + concrete floor + maybe a busted thumb every now and then when you smack it with the hammer = WIN!

mk_
04-29-2009, 08:12 AM
Bolt cutters

hunterw
04-29-2009, 08:43 AM
http://www.scosche.com/view.just.image/src=/ecom/images/product/879.10904.600x400.T2.jpg
this is what i use. and i think what sound around is talking about. except they are only 12 bucks at any welding supply store

peas247
04-29-2009, 08:57 AM
vice

HellsRise
04-29-2009, 08:57 AM
I've used a vice, vice grips, and hammer+punch+ground and all three have worked just fine, albeit a PITA to do 1/0 with vice grips. Crush it down til you can't pull it apart by hand and then wrap'er tight with electrical tape and it'll be fine.

mike11202
04-29-2009, 09:00 AM
butane torch + solder works good

JBLCAMRY
04-29-2009, 09:13 AM
http://www.scosche.com/view.just.image/src=/ecom/images/product/879.10904.600x400.T2.jpg
this is what i use. and i think what sound around is talking about. except they are only 12 bucks at any welding supply store

i use the same.

nineball
04-29-2009, 09:23 AM
$9

https://weldingsupply.securesites.com/cgi-bin/einstein.pl?Next::1:UNDEF:OR:terms::PA3

schackel
04-29-2009, 09:24 AM
i just smack it with my **** a few times

ya this generally works. for girls id sudjest inserting it into the anus and pretend to pinch a poop, it cramps real nice.....
HOPE THIS HELPS!

iwearpro
04-29-2009, 09:26 AM
I always buy closed end terminal ends,use a torch and solder and fill the terminal with solder and drop in the wire end.... There is a small electronics shop run by a guy in his mid 80's and he said that was the best way to do it and to avoid crimping.. I guess the good old guy knows his stuff so I dont doubt him.. ;) Speaking of that I may go see that old guy today! He's full of old stories.. lol

NewAgeKing
04-29-2009, 09:34 AM
Buy a crimper, only 10 bux at a hardware store. Then get yourself a soldering kit and go to town.

GearGuy2001
04-29-2009, 09:35 AM
I crimped with vice grips and then soldered with a propane torch

Now they are on, but some spl guys get boners over the solder... apparently it adds resistance :crazy:

drpeeb
04-29-2009, 12:01 PM
half-assers....

I agree ... I'm a mostly noob to car audio, but not electrical.

Your life will be much easier, and the end result will be much better, if you just give in and do it right. You won't have to wonder if your terminals are maybe loose or questionable.

Get the right terminal crimp tool and you can at least breeze through that part of any installation ... and worry about other **** instead!!


(Of course this is coming from the guy who doesn't wanna glue together his currently screwed-together-only sub box!!!)

duece212
04-29-2009, 12:03 PM
$9

https://weldingsupply.securesites.com/cgi-bin/einstein.pl?Next::1:UNDEF:OR:terms::PA3

swedge on tool + BFH makes crimps easy

DumpinTreos
04-29-2009, 12:04 PM
i used to use solder for 0 gauge but eventually moved on to those spring-loaded crimpers due to avoiding any resistance. They work awesome I usually test my connections by hanging on it from a nail.

sound_around
04-29-2009, 12:06 PM
i used to use solder for 0 gauge but eventually moved on to those spring-loaded crimpers due to avoiding any resistance

yeppers...thats how its done RIGHT.still mashed my fingers though trying to do my 4/0

lilmaniac2
04-29-2009, 12:07 PM
hammer + driveway = crimped

AVSTANG02
04-29-2009, 12:09 PM
cant for the life of me crimp 1/0. i put it down on my concrete garage floor, and used a big bit and a hammer, beat the **** out of it. basically i got one side of the crease under the other, and then presumed to beat more **** out of it. got it to about half its origional size. it doesent pull off, but if i put some force into it it comes right off. any suggestions? or is that good enough?

That's because you aren't using the proper tools.

No it's not good enough.

I can't pull off my 1/0 gauge crimps if my life depended on it and that's what you NEED.

Don't be a *******. Rent, borrow, steal the proper tool.

SicAudio
04-29-2009, 12:13 PM
or you can use the lug type terminals like these. i have a few laying around that fit 0 guage
http://www.bluewaveaudio.com//images/rts02.jpg

sound_around
04-29-2009, 12:16 PM
or you can use the lug type terminals like these. i have a few laying around that fit 0 guage
http://www.bluewaveaudio.com//images/rts02.jpg

those are very nice and clean but IMHO they can come loose aswell

thorshammer1
04-29-2009, 02:05 PM
I use solder and a vise;)

Done that


i just smack it with my **** a few times

Do this just for a good time


or you can use the lug type terminals like these. i have a few laying around that fit 0 guage
http://www.bluewaveaudio.com//images/rts02.jpg

Got lots of these lying around.

I now have a crimper with attatchments for 0,4 etc but for the longest time I used vice grips and a hammer. Crimp one side down with the vice grips, it will take a few try's you'll have to let it loose and tighten the vice and repeat then do the other side.

Once you get both sides down beat on da bish!:laugh:

DNick454
04-29-2009, 02:13 PM
Solder, ironically enough, is pretty highly restrictive to electron flow. It's only used so much because of its ease of use and low melting point. Crimping on terminals with a crimping tool is the best way because it will be super tight, and have the most contact between the terminal and the wire strands. If you've spent the money and bought 1/0 gauge wire, you can spend a little more and not be a ****tard and do it the right way.


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ngsm13
04-29-2009, 02:36 PM
or you can use the lug type terminals like these. i have a few laying around that fit 0 guage
http://www.bluewaveaudio.com//images/rts02.jpg

Lame, too big... get in the way...

I also use the weldingsupply.com swedge on tool...

ftw...

nG

liqdfire4755
04-29-2009, 03:03 PM
solder adding resistance? :confused: this is the first i am hearing of this. my job requires i only solder all my connections for alarms, r/s, and system components. i will do some testing when i get to work today and read it out with a dmm. i will post results later on. :crazy:

budahbuddy803
04-29-2009, 03:11 PM
http://thm-a01.yimg.com/image/8c9d0bb79e9e63fc do one side at a time and i have never had a problem.

burzendowski
04-29-2009, 03:12 PM
use a vise . you can smash the **** out of it, ive never had a problem with them coming off. ive also use a large pair of visegrips , get it tight by hand then set one side of the jaw against the ground and smack the other with a hammer.

Villeza1
04-29-2009, 03:14 PM
Lol Weak @$$! J/P I used a crow bar to beat the hell outta mine...worked just fine.

Buck
04-29-2009, 03:30 PM
It's called being a man :fyi:

I bet Chuck Norries does crimping with his butthole :fyi:

Bigrick31
04-29-2009, 03:32 PM
Go find an interstate battery store. They will do crimping and heat shrinking for you for cheap. I brought them 6 pieces of 3/0 wire that i needed crimped they sold me the heat shrink connectors and crimped everything with heat shrink installed for about $5

SplAffair
04-29-2009, 03:37 PM
It's called being a man :fyi:

I bet Chuck Norries does crimping with his butthole :fyi:

thats the greatest thing ive heard all day

honkyg
04-29-2009, 03:41 PM
a 2 ton shop press with a v shaped wedge and anvil work really well, no busted fingers and less effort, that is if you got one avail., you could really take the effort out of it and use a hydraulic log splitter,.... any business where you can buy custom made hydraulic lines has a type of crimping machine that crimps the fitting from all sides at once, ive used one of these, and the collets are interchangeable for diff size lines , but if thats not yur cup o tea, then use a floor jack and sandwich the fitting under a car, all these methods have worked for me in the past while i did alot of welding lead repair and didnt have a big enough crimping tool, sometimes you need to improvise

Buck
04-29-2009, 03:43 PM
thats the greatest thing ive heard all day

:naughty:

sound_around
04-29-2009, 04:25 PM
all this BS over a $10 crimper....LAME
theres a tool for everything,use them...

DumpinTreos
04-29-2009, 05:39 PM
solder adding resistance? :confused: this is the first i am hearing of this. my job requires i only solder all my connections for alarms, r/s, and system components. i will do some testing when i get to work today and read it out with a dmm. i will post results later on. :crazy:

Well the thing is most ppl who solder 0 gauge use rosin core solder which is lead/tin. If we were to use silver solder than that would provide the least resistance/most conductivity. Solder is mainly used because its a pretty strong connection but IMO nothing is typically better than a copper on copper crimp connection