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schackel
04-27-2009, 11:43 PM
I am looking into buying a 18" nightshade or a 18" re xxx (older model)

Running on 1800watts of clean power.
Daily beating only.
And in a chevy suburban.

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:45 PM
Xxx

RetroAudioinc
04-27-2009, 11:45 PM
18" nightshade hands down..

schackel
04-27-2009, 11:45 PM
reasons you two?

mazzasec
04-27-2009, 11:47 PM
Two totally different drivers to be stuck between making a decision on.

soundstreamer
04-27-2009, 11:48 PM
Xxx

x2


18" nightshade hands down..

x2



I think you would be pleased with either. Go with whichever you can get the best deal on.

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:48 PM
Sundown needs more power I think, And the XXX is rated around 1800wrms and the sundown it might need more power to get loud Iuno maybe im wrong just my 2cents. But than again there 2 different subs lol..

dbeez
04-27-2009, 11:48 PM
Do you want sound quality or customer service and just ridiculously loud and tuned to 32hz it will sound absolutely amazing on music...My vote is sundown though..

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:49 PM
Sundown Nightshade.

1) Jacob
2) Jacob
3) they are bad ***!

the XXX is a really nice sub, and you would be happy with both, but **** we are talking about JACOB!

OK this is sounding obsessive and gay!

Jacob! I just had to say it again

RetroAudioinc
04-27-2009, 11:49 PM
sundown is rms 1500w so its less can take 3000w from a sundown but they also sound good on 1500D's so...

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:49 PM
Sundown Nightshade.

1) Jacob
2) Jacob
3) they are bad ***!

the XXX is a really nice sub, and you would be happy with both, but **** we are talking about JACOB!

OK this is sounding obsessive and gay!

Jacob! I just had to say it again

Ok your a *** lol..

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:50 PM
Did I mention Customer service?

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:50 PM
Ok your a *** lol..

Don't get jeolious, I still have time for you:laugh:

RetroAudioinc
04-27-2009, 11:51 PM
I would think reconing a sundown would be easier and cheaper as well..

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:52 PM
the 2 people praising sundown. 1 is a dealer and other is on the team lol so go figure FU GUYS LOL haha but like stated before there 2 different subs :D get both!! lol

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:52 PM
You can also get more identical subs if you decide to go with more than 1, not true with the XXX, or not very easy to match them

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:53 PM
I would think reconing a sundown would be easier and cheaper as well..

You can get recones for the XXX from FI easily.. not exact cone but sme ****! Lol ;x

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:54 PM
the 2 people praising sundown. 1 is a dealer and other is on the team lol so go figure FU GUYS LOL haha but like stated before there 2 different subs :D get both!! lol

OK you ******* halfbaked, wannabe tub thumper! why in the hell do you think he is a team member and I am a dealer? Because it is good ****!

dbeez
04-27-2009, 11:55 PM
the 2 people praising sundown. 1 is a dealer and other is on the team lol so go figure FU GUYS LOL haha but like stated before there 2 different subs :D get both!! lol

Who is on team sundown..Yes I am a dealer..

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:55 PM
You can get recones for the XXX from FI easily.. not exact cone but sme ****! Lol ;x

So at that point it is a hybrid.

Sith the Sundown it is a current sub and identical parts are readily available.

schackel
04-27-2009, 11:55 PM
Do you want sound quality or customer service and just ridiculously loud and tuned to 32hz it will sound absolutely amazing on music...My vote is sundown though..

i want gross, shake my car apart, make my ears bleed at 32-34hz. which is that one?

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:57 PM
Lol why not run that stetsom @ 2ohms? and get full 2500watts? ;\ and in that case run the sundown nightshade

kmanian
04-27-2009, 11:57 PM
i want gross, shake my car apart, make my ears bleed at 32-34hz. which is that one?

Sundown! 1-15" nightshade = 154db:eek: > XXX

steveBeatz
04-27-2009, 11:57 PM
Sundown! 1-15" nightshade = 154db:eek: > XXX

FART BOX GTFO LOL

dbeez
04-27-2009, 11:57 PM
i want gross, shake my car apart, make my ears bleed at 32-34hz. which is that one?

Get the sundown you will be happy trust me I run a pair of nightshades..And I currently run a 3000d @.5ohm so around 1800rms each...

soundstreamer
04-27-2009, 11:58 PM
Ear bleeding in a Suburban may take more than one 18" sub behind the rear seats...

kmanian
04-28-2009, 12:00 AM
FART BOX GTFO LOL

And what box is going to get to 154db with 1 15" and not be a fartbox?

he wanted loud, that is freaking loud!

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:00 AM
Ear bleeding in a Suburban may take more than one 18" sub behind the rear seats...

If done right the single 18 can do the trick..Its mostly in the install...Go 5 cubes on the box lots of port...have derrick824 help you with a design he doesnt charge much but wel worth it..l

hunterw
04-28-2009, 12:00 AM
XXX hands down. there are not many subs better then it when playing lower freqs.

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:02 AM
Ear bleeding in a Suburban may take more than one 18" sub behind the rear seats...

i take the seats out...but yes you are right i just did not kow how else to describe it

kmanian
04-28-2009, 12:02 AM
Ear bleeding in a Suburban may take more than one 18" sub behind the rear seats...

which is even more reason to go with the Sundown, he can buy another one to match the first one if he needs more

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:04 AM
Ear bleeding in a Suburban may take more than one 18" sub behind the rear seats...

i take the seats out...but yes you are right i just did not kow how else to describe it

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:21 AM
so the nightshade?

kmanian
04-28-2009, 12:23 AM
so the nightshade?

IMO, yes!

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:25 AM
Nighshades now


/thread

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:26 AM
XXX

/thread

kmanian
04-28-2009, 12:27 AM
XXX

/thread

Steve is an idiot, don't listen to him!

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:27 AM
XXX

/thread
Not for what he is looking to do and I am sure he will be getting another sub soon after..But yes the xxx is a great sub

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:30 AM
Not for what he is looking to do and I am sure he will be getting another sub soon after..

so the xxx will rage the 32hz way better? i will probably not get a another one.

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:31 AM
so the xxx will rage the 32hz way better? i will probably not get a another one.

I would get the nightshade at 32hz they sound amazing..And after a bit you will want more everyone does its the law..

Blados
04-28-2009, 12:32 AM
I would get the nightshade at 32hz they sound amazing..And after a bit you will want more everyone does its the law..

An XXX sounds wonderful at 32hz too.

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:35 AM
An XXX sounds wonderful at 32hz too.

Yes it does however when it comes to the customer service and readily available parts factory parts and if and when you want to add another can one be bought easily..Those are all important..

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:35 AM
WOW F THIS! I need to hear from some non bias opion

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:36 AM
Lol you mean from non-team sundown or non -auth sundown dealer? LOL jk

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:36 AM
Bias man they are both excellent subs but for completely different uses really...

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Yes it does however when it comes to the customer service and readily available parts factory parts and if and when you want to add another can one be bought easily..Those are all important..

i wont blow it on 1800watts. i wont be buying another.
LETS JUST DO THIS OFF OF PURE QUALITY.

Blados
04-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Unfortunately this forum currently has a sundown boner. Let's not forget the xxx is a great sub. I can't say if the nightshade is better, but I can say the xxx doesn't disappoint.

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:38 AM
Bias man they are both excellent subs but for completely different uses really...

ok what are the uses of each?

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:39 AM
i wont blow it on 1800watts. i wont be buying another.
LETS JUST DO THIS OFF OF PURE QUALITY.

people have ran 2500watts to the XXX daily. The XXX is proven to be a overall good quality sub and sound very good. nightshade iuno i dont see many people running them or atleast see posts about them. but im sure there a great sub as well just more spl oriented. And for daily im sure you want some sound quality and them lows which is why i pick the XXX. not saying the sundown is a ****** sub im sure its amazing just my opinion:D I also own a 12'' REXXX and listened to it so I know it sounds amazing

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:40 AM
ok what are the uses of each?

Ones sound quality and Ones SPL

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:41 AM
the xxx is a sound quality sub the Nightshade is a spl sub but in my experience with it sounds **** good tuned low and on music..you are just gonna have to decide and grab one up they are both excellent but anything is possible never say never..

Blados
04-28-2009, 12:41 AM
Ones sound quality and Ones SPL

The xxx is NOT a SQ sub. They can get loud as crap. It's a SQL sub.

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:42 AM
With the power your running I think they will both perform about the same but the XXX will sound better doing it.

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:43 AM
The xxx is NOT a SQ sub. They can get loud as crap. It's a SQL sub.

you know what i Mean! lol i own a 05 model re xxx and i know it can get loud as crap

dbeez
04-28-2009, 12:45 AM
With the power your running I think they will both perform about the same but the XXX will sound better doing it.

I have heard both and really not much difference in the sq part especially at higher power and volume..OP buy both and let us know what you think..

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:48 AM
I have heard both and really not much difference in the sq part especially at higher power and volume..OP buy both and let us know what you think..

I agree get both:) I havnt herd a sundown so cant say much about them just that i know there more spl oriented so I'm going by that. But I agree buy both than sell one you dont like lol

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:48 AM
**** ok well i will buy both and tell you the answer! haha jk i wish. the guy who is buying the nightshade for me might have alreay ordered it. i hope so, so that i dont have to decide

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 12:50 AM
Lolol

schackel
04-28-2009, 12:55 AM
if nightshade is crap i will tell you and buy the xxx.

kmanian
04-28-2009, 12:56 AM
Steve, you can't possibly give an opinion between the 2 of them, you have admitidly never used a Nightshade.

I have, I have also used a old XXX and new XXX, The nightshade is a slightly different beast, the XXX is a little more SQ, however the Nightshade is no slouch either, no where near the "fartbox" sounding sub in your typical system. they can sound very nice in a 32-35hz box, and get stupid loud doing it.

Either way the OP will be happy, I have no doubt about that. But if he want to get loud and sound good doing it, I personally would go with the NS.

OP there is a reason I am a Sundown dealer, the service is top notch, and the products are just as good. I have been a dealer for car audio from the early 90's and I have never had a manufacture that deals with me the dealer and you the consumer the way Sundown does.

It really doesn't matter what you get, you will be happy, you have picked 2 awesome subs, and there ar many more you could add to the list. You asked for opinions, you got them, steve wants the XXX and others seem to suggest the SD. Shat are you going to do?

steveBeatz
04-28-2009, 01:00 AM
HEY HEY HEY im not the only one to suggest the XXX plenty others here did too so relax! lol And it was mainly you and the other team sundown guy to MAINLY suggest the NS so :sticks tongue out: LOL but your right I never herd a NS but i herd a RE XXX and loved it. But maybe you can send me a nightshade so i can try one out? :) :) :)

schackel
04-28-2009, 01:01 AM
nightshade FTW