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Twistid
04-25-2009, 10:08 AM
I recently took out all my substage out of my car and it was actually nice being able to listen to the music again :eek:, so now I've been thinking of installing a decent frontstage in my car and eventually throwing back in my substage.

My question is how many people have done this, obviously the SQ when the bass is turned up is going to be thrown out of the window, and it will not blend very well. My substage is (2) Mach 5 SPL 12's on a sundown 3000 with a 40hz box , I'm most likely gonna spend about ~$300 on the front components, I have a TT2300 laying around that I can use to amp them(150x2@4 rms) Or should I say "**** it, its not even worth attempting," and just pick up some PG RSD's or similar?

rc10mike
04-25-2009, 10:13 AM
Probably not worth it unless you invest in some serious midbass, but even then...

Twistid
04-25-2009, 10:27 AM
Hmm, thats what I was thinking, or I could just turn the sundown remote gain down to a tenth of its normal listening volume?

I'm looking at your signature, you have 2 IDMAX's which are by far no slouch in the SPL department, how do they work with your Focal's ? Obviously they have much more SQ than my Mach 5 SPL's but they dont overpower your frontstage?

LaserRed38
04-25-2009, 10:29 AM
Sell your stuff and go with 2 15s or 18s IB. It will be loud enough for you...

bball09124
04-25-2009, 10:31 AM
Sell your stuff and go with 2 15s or 18s IB. It will be loud enough for you...

I really want to see 2 15s or an 18 IB in a front stage, lol.

LaserRed38
04-25-2009, 10:38 AM
Lol..and I say it is completely worth it to invest in your front stage. You can always turn your subs down.

thehardknoxlife
04-25-2009, 10:39 AM
Hmm, thats what I was thinking, or I could just turn the sundown remote gain down to a tenth of its normal listening volume?

I'm looking at your signature, you have 2 IDMAX's which are by far no slouch in the SPL department, how do they work with your Focal's ? Obviously they have much more SQ than my Mach 5 SPL's but they dont overpower your frontstage?

Any decent sub is going to overpower your front stage. It's unavoidable. Attenuating the sub(s) will help with getting your desired "SQ" (and is a must IMO, that isd unless you just like to hear boom, boom, boooom, boom, all the time).

Crimson Boom
04-25-2009, 10:47 AM
Any decent sub is going to overpower your front stage. It's unavoidable. Attenuating the sub(s) will help with getting your desired "SQ" (and is a must IMO, that isd unless you just like to hear boom, boom, boooom, boom, all the time).

I do :)




I've always had a crazy idea about having SQ components and midbasses, but PA speakers(Selenium etc.) when you turn it up. am I crazy?

SicAudio
04-25-2009, 11:44 AM
mbquart pvi's or some bostons or even focals will hold that power and you will still hear it with the sub beating if you install them right.
we run low 140's high 130's with bostons and quarts and it sounds awesome.

troy_audi0
04-25-2009, 11:53 AM
Just get some comps that can take more power
I have 300x2 on my Alpine Type X Pro's
super dynamic & loud to boot..

phockey10
04-25-2009, 12:01 PM
if you want your SPL subs to mix with good SQ comps try putting them into a sealed box. with a decent midbass you should be able to mix your subs in. You will want to deaden your doors though

James Bang
04-25-2009, 01:49 PM
the term SQ is used so vaguely

grimreper912003
04-25-2009, 01:56 PM
I ran MB quart QSD216's with a 12" Fi Q ported throwing 1700w RMS to it (Not the most SPL but still loud) and it was great. I love loud SQ :D. I think the front stage is deff worth it, no matter what substage you run if its daily.

SicAudio
04-25-2009, 02:03 PM
QSD's were the **** tho best comp set of its time bar none (except for the signature qsd's lolz )

grimreper912003
04-25-2009, 02:07 PM
QSD's were the **** tho best comp set of its time bar none (except for the signature qsd's lolz )

I Loved them. I miss that set up the most.

12" Fi Q Ported at 33hz
MTX 7801 @ 1 ohm
MB quart QSD216s
Cheap kenwood amp

I will say it again. Front stage is DEFF worth it.

James Bang
04-25-2009, 04:09 PM
I will say it again. Front stage is DEFF worth it.

i like music.

phockey10
04-25-2009, 06:01 PM
haha i would hope so. your setup would be a big waste of money of you didnt

rc10mike
04-25-2009, 10:26 PM
Hmm, thats what I was thinking, or I could just turn the sundown remote gain down to a tenth of its normal listening volume?

I'm looking at your signature, you have 2 IDMAX's which are by far no slouch in the SPL department, how do they work with your Focal's ? Obviously they have much more SQ than my Mach 5 SPL's but they dont overpower your frontstage?

I keep my subs very low for the most part, to get it to blend as best as I could. The the bass is then when needed!

I would say its a good idea to invest in a great front stage only if you're willing to turn down the subs, if not it really wouldnt be worth it.

James Bang
04-26-2009, 12:14 AM
turn subs down? blasphemy!

grimreper912003
04-26-2009, 12:22 AM
turn subs down? blasphemy!

Dont listen to this guy. I bet he runs sony Xplodes :rolleyes: