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WOT
04-19-2009, 12:11 PM
Looking for something to pair up with 4 6.5" pg rsd's. Which are a little lacking on the highs, I have some factory dash cutouts for small 3.5" speakers, but I can mod it to fit a slightly smaller or larger

Looking for a speaker I can run on the same frequencies as the rsd's 100hz-7.5Khz that will sound good and give me a little bit of "highs"

Im trying to stay away from tweeters here

THANK YOU

WOT
04-19-2009, 12:19 PM
These are on the top of my list right now though, but I think they have posted 60rms incorrectly?

http://cgi.ebay.ca/PAIR-PHOENIX-GOLD-120w-3-1-2-RSD-CAR-STEREO-SPEAKERS_W0QQitemZ350185284883QQcmdZViewItemQQptZC ar_Speakers?hash=item350185284883&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A16|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Heres a link to there oem website, it says:

Power handling (minimum RMS/peak): 5W/60W


They dont take 60rms do they?

WOT
04-19-2009, 12:37 PM
This confooooozes me

# 120 WATTS TOTAL OUTPUT
# 60 watts output each
# 60 watts total RMS rated
# Sensitivity: 86 dB
# Frequency response: 100-10000 Hz

moo_awn
04-19-2009, 12:45 PM
Your thread confuses me. You want highs but don't want tweeters and you want to run 3.5" speakers for the same frequency band as your 6.5" rsd's?

Xprime4
04-19-2009, 12:49 PM
highs are mainly coming off your tweeters.

I think you really should look into horn ...

WOT
04-19-2009, 01:25 PM
Your thread confuses me. You want highs but don't want tweeters and you want to run 3.5" speakers for the same frequency band as your 6.5" rsd's?

Completely correct, I hate tweeters, I threw out the ones that came with the rsd's, they sounded like poop and the crossovers got WAY to hot on 100rms, so there gone. I tried some St350 supertweeteres and hated them to. Horns I wont even bother with

Do you have input on if the 3.5" could take 60rms or not though? One site says 60 max, one says 60rms, one says both 60max and 60rms together lol

mcsoul
04-19-2009, 02:00 PM
This is 8 ohm so your amp should put out about 30w which will be fine.

use an 80hz HP

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-847

more options:

http://www.parts-express.com/wizards/searchResults.cfm?srchExt=CAT&srchCat=576&CFID=6768401&CFTOKEN=40494220

skittlesRgood
04-19-2009, 02:18 PM
Your thread confuses me. You want highs but don't want tweeters and you want to run 3.5" speakers for the same frequency band as your 6.5" rsd's?

i agree... looks more like you want more midrange. my friends car has blown tweeters and it sounds like *** with only mids.

i find it hilarious that you made fun of my build log but here you are asking a dumb question about a 3.5" $35 speaker. spend the money on a better 6.5.

WOT
04-19-2009, 03:18 PM
Im actually extremely happy with how the rsds sound, even on there own in the sealed door pods, good midbass @ 80hz. I just know I dont have tweeters and need some more midrange/high as the singing is a little muddy at high volume.

Im sorry if you think this is a stupid question but I dont know anything about small speakers, but those tang bangs look pretty impressive

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-847

Etac
04-19-2009, 03:23 PM
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=264-811

i got these but you wont cover down to 100hz with em... not flat at least.. maybe 200-400 in like a perfect enclosure.. otherwise expect like 600-8khz..

covreing from 100hz-12khz is almost gonna be impossible from a 3.5 or almost any speaker for that matter, considering its gonna be in a car..

if you hate tweeters running above 12khz.. just find a low pass filter for em.. or make one.

WOT
04-19-2009, 03:36 PM
Looking for something with some more handling. Im going to be running the 6.5's on there own Kicker amp, and these small speakers on there own 2 chanel amp. I will be splitting the rca's coming out of my decks "MID" rca output, y-cable, one to each amp.

And because Im using only the great crossover and the 12? band eq on the deck to tune, Im looking for something that can do 80hz - 10-15khz

RSD's are still a bargain if they can take 60rms, havent got a clear answer on what they can handle yet

JimJ
04-19-2009, 03:47 PM
covreing from 100hz-12khz is almost gonna be impossible from a 3.5 or almost any speaker for that matter, considering its gonna be in a car..

In pods, it might be doable :)

If he can go out to a 4.5", the CSS FR125 would be an option...or Hybrid L3...or a Fostex of some kind, although I don't know how well the midbass extension would be on those without a massive enclosure. I know the 4" Sigmas will extend past 100Hz in a horn, but in a pod you'd probably be lucky to get 200Hz...

tez4life
04-19-2009, 05:10 PM
Completely correct, I hate tweeters, I threw out the ones that came with the rsd's, they sounded like poop and the crossovers got WAY to hot on 100rms, so there gone


This confused me as well, I run about 125w through my Rsds daily, and never had an issue with the crossovers warming up on me. And mine are buried in my kick panels :fyi:

Just get a good set of tweeters and be done with it, IMO...

WOT
04-19-2009, 05:17 PM
I dont have the factory RSD crossovers anymore they were ruined

And the "HIGH/FRONT" RCA output on my Premier 860mp went out, so thats why Im stuck using the MID output for my soundstage and have to split it, I dont want to get a new deck, I like the 860 to much, so Im thinking the 3.5" rsds (if they take 60rms, need confirmation) would sound pretty good.

WOT
04-20-2009, 01:17 AM
Anybody on the 3.5" power handling abilities?

WOT
04-20-2009, 10:34 PM
Anybody on the 3.5" power handling abilities?

mcsoul
04-20-2009, 10:55 PM
which 3.5"?

I found 4" rsd's here:

http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=17549

SicAudio
04-21-2009, 06:28 PM
i wouldnt even put 60 rms to the 4" they dont like it and hitting 100 hz with that speaker in a factory spot is near impossible, just get really good 6.5's and be done with it. its hard for a decent 5.25" to hit 100hz reliably but for a 6.5 its easy they will do that free air even.

i have my 5.25 quart components x-ed at 100 hz on 85 watts rms and they pound clean and clear but i use dynamat and mdf spacers as well.

WOT
04-22-2009, 11:22 AM
**** that 4" can only take 40rms, so I doubt 60 form the 3.5's

No wonder some companies never got back to me with a pic of the box of specs lol