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jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 11:54 AM
I have been noticing that some people here do not like Infinity speakers. I was wondering what them reasoning behind that is. I run four Infinity Reference Series speakers in my CRV and they sound absolutely amazing.

x1le
04-09-2009, 11:56 AM
Because opinions are like assholes :fyi:

gqjeff
04-09-2009, 11:56 AM
They sound very nice in my sons vehicle also...

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 12:02 PM
Yep everyone does have opinions. maybe some have had a bad experience with them.

timaishu
04-09-2009, 12:29 PM
I like mine.

genxx
04-09-2009, 12:35 PM
The only place these are decent is in the midrange. Tweeters are on the bright side with decent detail. The low end is non-existent.

Why don't some people like them because they are not that good. There are comps out there that better them for a lot less money, example PG RSd.

If you like them then that is great as you own them. We all like different stuff but IMO the Infinity comps are close to bottom of what is avaliable.

hornedfrog1985
04-09-2009, 12:41 PM
Yeah, I've also heard they are pretty bright.

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 01:20 PM
It doesn't matter whether the Infinity speakers get the low end or not. That's what subwoofers are for. In my car I do not find them to be too bright. Now if I engager the 3 db boost switch on the tweeters then they are too bright. Personally if it were possible I would disconnect the Infinity tweeters and use some ribbon tweeters as IMHO they sound better than dome tweeters.

dewey79
04-09-2009, 06:01 PM
The perfects have smoked the competition many times. People just hate.

I have the perfects and the low end is there. They are not going to substitue for for subs or anything, but if you don't need the loud boom, the perfects are more than satisfying. I am going to repost a comment I made about thse speakers in another thread.

"Infinity Perfects if you have the patience to let a speaker break in. I swear the best sound comes from these speakers of anything that I heard after 3 months of breaking in and they continue to get better with a smoother sound and more sound depth.

They are very natural, crispy, and extra loud too! Very good seperation and defined sound. Some people say they don't have base but they do and are still crystal clear.

Anyone who says they had these speakers for less than 2 months and think they are trash are either lying, or they are not properly powering the speakers. You just have to be more patient with speakers that require a lot of power than with speakers that are more efficient. It's worth the wait because efficient speakers can't output the sound resolution of a speaker that takes more power.

It's all about what satisfies you though!"

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 06:46 PM
I agree that people just hate. Some have a certain brand they swear by and will diss all other brands even if the otners are better. I'm sure some speakers are better for certain types of music. I read that original post earlier today. I may have to check those speakers out. I like my Infinity Reference Series speakers, but I always strive to have the best a manufacturer has.

dewey79
04-09-2009, 08:17 PM
I have had the reference and the kappa 60.9, The perfects are way better!

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 08:25 PM
Provided I find some kick panel mounts for my 2003 CRV I will get two Perfects.

dewey79
04-09-2009, 09:12 PM
Make sure you have a good amplifier. You will need to push those speakers to their limits to break them in, otherwise they might sound messy. If they do, they are not getting enough power. They can actually pressurize your car with good sound and bass with out adding bass from your head unit with a good amp.

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 09:14 PM
I am running a Rockford Fosgate P400-4 amp.

dewey79
04-09-2009, 09:52 PM
Should work pretty well!

RowJoe
04-09-2009, 09:56 PM
It doesn't matter whether the Infinity speakers get the low end or not. That's what subwoofers are for. In my car I do not find them to be too bright. Now if I engager the 3 db boost switch on the tweeters then they are too bright. Personally if it were possible I would disconnect the Infinity tweeters and use some ribbon tweeters as IMHO they sound better than dome tweeters.

Ever heard of midbass?


The perfects have smoked the competition many times. People just hate.

I have the perfects and the low end is there. They are not going to substitue for for subs or anything, but if you don't need the loud boom, the perfects are more than satisfying. I am going to repost a comment I made about thse speakers in another thread.

"Infinity Perfects if you have the patience to let a speaker break in. I swear the best sound comes from these speakers of anything that I heard after 3 months of breaking in and they continue to get better with a smoother sound and more sound depth.

They are very natural, crispy, and extra loud too! Very good seperation and defined sound. Some people say they don't have base but they do and are still crystal clear.

Anyone who says they had these speakers for less than 2 months and think they are trash are either lying, or they are not properly powering the speakers. You just have to be more patient with speakers that require a lot of power than with speakers that are more efficient. It's worth the wait because efficient speakers can't output the sound resolution of a speaker that takes more power.

It's all about what satisfies you though!"

Are you smoking crack? Infinity speakers are VERY efficient.

Holy crap, there's so much misinformation in this thread.

Doola36
04-09-2009, 10:34 PM
I am one who likes Infinity. I currently have a pair of Kappa 6x9s and a pair of 60.9 that will be powered by a RF T400.4. I like how loud and clear they are. I use to have a pair of CDT CL-62s in my truck but I am going back to the Kappa's in my truck because they have became my favorite. I know there are other speakers but for me I have to give the Kappas two thumbs up.

MBrock4u
04-09-2009, 11:30 PM
I used to run infinity and kappa, never have heard the perfects. I never understood why the bad rap either. I thought they were good at the time, but the tweeters were just too bright for my taste. That doesn't make them bad. I prefer a smoother more natural sounding tweeter.

jmcinvale
04-09-2009, 11:33 PM
I agree. Every person has their likes and dislikes.

dewey79
04-10-2009, 11:44 AM
Ever heard of midbass?



Are you smoking crack? Infinity speakers are VERY efficient.

Holy crap, there's so much misinformation in this thread.


They are efficient, but they may not be as easy to break in and over come the resistance in speaker wire to get them sounding crystal clear, to point that you feel like the speaker has disappeared because the sound is so smooth.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 01:18 PM
They're not going to continue to break in after 3 months of use, unless you've barely been using them at all. Overcome the resistance of the speaker wire? What are you using, 4 gauge wire?

lol @ "they continue to get better with a smoother sound and more sound depth"

If anything, it's your ears man.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 01:59 PM
I agree. Every person has their likes and dislikes.

Again, ever heard of midbass? It's very beneficial to your entire "system" if your front woofers can play well in the midbass frequencies. If it's done right, your sub will be more difficult to localize and your woofers will blend better with it. Save up for some better speakers. I find it hard to believe a system can sound "off the chain" with Infinity Reference speakers. :laugh:

gunz4me
04-10-2009, 02:24 PM
I have some Infinity Kappa 682.7cf speakers in the doors and rear deck of my 2006 Mustang GT. I am going to celebrate when I finally get around to replacing them! I will hang on to them in the event I ever return that car to stock and get rid of it though.

There is NO midbass response out of them and the tweeters are harsh enough to shatter glass.

audioman42
04-10-2009, 02:33 PM
i used to own a set of infinity reference components. i got rid of them after a couple of months because the violent bass air they were producing kept making my rear-view mirror fall off.

</sarcasm>


They are very natural, crispy, and extra loud too! Very good seperation and defined sound. Some people say they don't have base but they do and are still crystal clear.


I like how loud and clear they are.

don't mistake loud, harsh tweeters for clarity.

timaishu
04-10-2009, 03:10 PM
The reference series isnt the best. But I think they sound pretty decent. And no, my tweeters arent harsh. I have mine set at -3db, and ever since my HU install, the tweets quieted down a bit.

Midbass is severely lacking overall, but on some songs they do produce it ive noticed. On some techno, they move enough air to get my mirror shaking.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 03:21 PM
What's decent? Better than stock? Perhaps they are, but that's not saying a whole lot in many cases. Might as well just pony up $200 for a nice set of components (especially if you have an amp for them), instead of buying some budget Infinity garbage.

dewey79
04-10-2009, 03:24 PM
The infinity tweeters are usually bright out of the box, but once the cone is broken in, it should not be so, they should blend and just make your music sound mor acurate.

timaishu
04-10-2009, 03:25 PM
What's decent? Better than stock? Perhaps they are, but that's not saying a whole lot in many cases. Might as well just pony up $200 for a nice set of components (especially if you have an amp for them), instead of buying some budget Infinity garbage.

I bough them originally when I was planning to just go off HU power. Before I got into the audio scene. Compared to stock, it was a night and day difference. They sounded sooooo much cleaner.

I do plan on replacing them eventually just for the sake of trying something different. I Have vc100 tweeters on the way.

I dont think its fair to call them garbage. I dont you think you could find much so say about if you heard my setup in person.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 03:26 PM
The infinity tweeters are usually bright out of the box, but once the cone is broken in, it should not be so, they should blend and just make your music sound mor acurate.

Blend with what? You need to hear better stuff if those tweets aren't harsh. :confused:

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 03:30 PM
I bough them originally when I was planning to just go off HU power. Before I got into the audio scene. Compared to stock, it was a night and day difference. They sounded sooooo much cleaner.

I do plan on replacing them eventually just for the sake of trying something different. I Have vc100 tweeters on the way.

I dont think its fair to call them garbage. I dont you think you could find much so say about if you heard my setup in person.

I listen to a lot of metal and personally I thought the Reference set I had was pretty much garbage. It's hard to complain when they're under $100, but that was money that I could have used for something significantly better.

Those Blaupunkt tweeters seem very nice. How much did you get them for?

timaishu
04-10-2009, 03:33 PM
I listen to a lot of metal and personally I thought the Reference set I had was pretty much garbage. It's hard to complain when they're under $100, but that was money that I could have used for something significantly better.

Those Blaupunkt tweeters seem very nice. How much did you get them for?

I know what you mean when it comes to rock and metal. There is somewhat of a gap in the audio spectrum thats missing. Luckily though, my IDQ's seem to even it out really nicely. I love listening to rock in my car.

I bought them off a forum member for $60. Brand new.

I read reviews and people seem to like them alot.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 03:39 PM
Not a bad deal, hope ya like them. I just got my Mach 5 MLIs in, awww yeeee. Gonna get some supplies today so I can make these: http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/diyma-tutorials/53732-cheap-adjustable-easily-replaceable-tweeter-pods.html

timaishu
04-10-2009, 03:44 PM
No sail panels in your car?

Those mach 5 MLI's look nice.

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 03:52 PM
I have some, but I don't really want to mount them there. I ordered these tweeters some time ago: http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45_229_250&products_id=544

I'd like try to messing around and getting a nice stage height, so I think the A-pillars will give more room for experimenting. On-axis vs. off-axis, location of mount in the A-pillar, etc. Also, these tweeter pods look a bit nicer IMO.

The Mach 5 MLIs were $79 for the pair shipped on their website. They're supposed to have some good midbass output and I can cross them around 3000 Hz. The paper cone should help reproduce the sound I've been looking for. I've had nothing but polypropylene cone woofers and I figured it was time for something different. Gonna try them with my PDX 4.100. Hopefully that should be enough power, but if not I can just bridge the channels and power the tweets off the Clarion DXZ785USB I have. First time running an active system, can't wait!

timaishu
04-10-2009, 03:59 PM
Cool.

I plan to put the vc100s where my infinity tweets sit. I like how the stock locations sound. Decent imaging (in my mind), and I cant localize the sound like I can with coxial setups.

mcsoul
04-10-2009, 04:35 PM
Holy crap the Infinity user's have united!

dewey79
04-10-2009, 04:46 PM
Blend with what? You need to hear better stuff if those tweets aren't harsh. :confused:

They blend with the woofer. The woofer gets way louder and clearer once it is broken in.
I have heard other speakers man and they are not as loud and crispy.

They do not sound harsh and they don't need to be pointed at your ear. Those speakers get so loud they fill the rear of my car!

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 05:40 PM
They blend with the woofer. The woofer gets way louder and clearer once it is broken in.
I have heard other speakers man and they are not as loud and crispy.

They do not sound harsh and they don't need to be pointed at your ear. Those speakers get so loud they fill the rear of my car!

Why the heck would anyone want a crispy speaker? Can I get a fried one w/ buffalo hot sauce? Oh wow, they fill your car with sound. That's truly impressive. Did you know that many other far superior speaker sets can do the exact same thing? What else have you heard, exactly? :wow:

dewey79
04-10-2009, 06:15 PM
This is my last time addressing your comments.

Anyway, like I said, Infinity Perfects have smoked the competition many times. I don't think you understand the sound capability of this speaker and resolution it is capable of putting out when tuned right and broken in. They hit hard too and have plenty of bass!

2nd important thing is that they meet and exceed my expectations.

3rd, if you think other speakers are better, I don't have a problem with that.

4th The infinity perfects are great speakers and there is evidence to back it up.(Does not mean that there are not other great speakers and it does not mean that every body should like the sound of Infinity)

If you feel they are bad speakers fine. To me they are still the bomb!

RowJoe
04-10-2009, 07:15 PM
Here you go, enjoy. (http://knowledgeconstructs.com/wp-content/gallery/general/nice_big_cup_of_stfu.jpg)

Doola36
04-10-2009, 09:11 PM
i used to own a set of infinity reference components. i got rid of them after a coouple of months because the violent bass air they were producing kept making my rear-view mirror fall off.

</sarcasm>





don't mistake loud, harsh tweeters for clarity.



Well to me it has good clarity......:)

jmcinvale
04-11-2009, 12:35 AM
Rowjoe when I got the Kicker subs I lowered the crossover on the subwoofer amp and the door speaker amp. It is more difficult to notice the subs now. BTW the Infinity speakers I use play the midbass just fine. Personally I would prefer larger door speakers (8" or greater), but I have no room for them without serious modification. I'm sure there are better speakers out there, but I do not need to be told something I already know. All that matters is that I like my system.

timaishu
04-11-2009, 12:44 AM
Rowjoe when I got the Kicker subs I lowered the crossover on the subwoofer amp and the door speaker amp. It is more difficult to notice the subs now. BTW the Infinity speakers I use play the midbass just fine. Personally I would prefer larger door speakers (8" or greater), but I have no room for them without serious modification. I'm sure there are better speakers out there, but I do not need to be told something I already know. All that matters is that I like my system.

You should fix your sig.

There is no such thing as a Infinity Reference 60322i

RowJoe
04-11-2009, 12:51 AM
Rowjoe when I got the Kicker subs I lowered the crossover on the subwoofer amp and the door speaker amp. It is more difficult to notice the subs now. BTW the Infinity speakers I use play the midbass just fine. Personally I would prefer larger door speakers (8" or greater), but I have no room for them without serious modification. I'm sure there are better speakers out there, but I do not need to be told something I already know. All that matters is that I like my system.

That's nice.

jmcinvale
04-11-2009, 03:39 AM
Unless the manufacturer is lying that speaker is here http://www.infinitysystems.com/car/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=REF6022I&cat=MEL&ser=REF&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

RowJoe
04-11-2009, 05:06 AM
Unless the manufacturer is lying that speaker is here http://www.infinitysystems.com/car/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=REF6022I&cat=MEL&ser=REF&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA

Unless you can't read, there's no #3 in the model number.

jmcinvale
04-11-2009, 05:39 PM
Oh I didn't catch that. My bad :blush: