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fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:08 AM
hey there everyone. my name's scott. (or scotty or whatever strange variation of scott you can come up with... ) any ways. i'm out here in UT. i came here for school. i never been too big into car audio, but after getting a taste a few years ago i became addicted to quality sound. either way i'll probably be picking up a few things here and there and improving my already amazingly sounding system... i drive a honda btw... dont be a honda hater now. i hate nothing more than a honda hater.

chaunb3400
04-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Hi Hater ;)

geowick07
04-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Welcome to the forum :wave:



geo

blackman
04-05-2009, 12:10 AM
DAMMMMIT another honda driver........................lol jk......whats ur system setup....?

99grandprixGT
04-05-2009, 12:10 AM
:wave:

Alpine4life89
04-05-2009, 12:11 AM
umm, what equipment do you have in your AWESOME setup?

geowick07
04-05-2009, 12:12 AM
umm, what equipment do you have in your AWESOME setup?
Was wondering when this would be asked.....

Waits patiently....



geo

99grandprixGT
04-05-2009, 12:13 AM
he said amazing sounding system. so its sounds amazing to him.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:15 AM
my db7 integra is currently rollin with a pioneer head unit (deh-4800mp i believe), an alpine v-power 4 channel 1200 watt amp wired up to some JL audio 6x9s and door speaks. . i'm wired for another amp (that i am currently looking for once i get the cash) to run a sub (that i am also currently looking for once i get the flow for as well.) i'm keeping my eyes out for a decent sized monoblock amp, like 500+rms power, and an alpine typeR of typeX 10". either one. .

Alpine4life89
04-05-2009, 12:15 AM
he said amazing sounding system. so its sounds amazing to him.

he must have them 13w7's dawg

blackman
04-05-2009, 12:16 AM
he said amazing sounding system. so its sounds amazing to him.


thats y u'd get one of my beers:D:laugh:

Alpine4life89
04-05-2009, 12:16 AM
my db8 integra is currently rollin with a pioneer head unit (deh-4800mp i believe), an alpine v-power 4 channel 1200 watt amp wired up to some JL audio 6x9s and door speaks. . i'm wired for another amp (that i am currently looking for once i get the cash) to run a sub (that i am also currently looking for once i get the flow for as well.) i'm keeping my eyes out for a decent sized monoblock amp, like 500+rms power, and an alpine typeR of typeX 10". either one. .

door speakers? You got some comps or no?

99grandprixGT
04-05-2009, 12:17 AM
thats y u'd get one of my beers:D:laugh:

lol thanks.

chaunb3400
04-05-2009, 12:19 AM
my db8 integra is currently rollin with a pioneer head unit (deh-4800mp i believe), an alpine v-power 4 channel 1200 watt amp wired up to some JL audio 6x9s and door speaks. . i'm wired for another amp (that i am currently looking for once i get the cash) to run a sub (that i am also currently looking for once i get the flow for as well.) i'm keeping my eyes out for a decent sized monoblock amp, like 500+rms power, and an alpine typeR of typeX 10". either one. .


interesting

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:19 AM
door speakers? You got some comps or no?

i dont know what "comps" are, but yeah they are just some JL 6" door speaks. they came in another car i had once upon a time and sound pretty good. so i kept them and put them in this car... same with the 6x9s.

and yes. it does sound amazing to me. anything with zero distortion is always good when it gets loud imo.

Alpine4life89
04-05-2009, 12:21 AM
i dont know what "comps" are, but yeah they are just some JL 6" door speaks. they came in another car i had once upon a time and sound pretty good. so i kept them and put them in this car... same with the 6x9s.

and yes. it does sound amazing to me. anything with zero distortion is always good when it gets loud imo.

it doesn't take much power to get loud. 50 watts rms of good amplifier power will be loud enough, i just didn't know what kind of fronts you had. I guess their jl, so that's good

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:25 AM
it doesn't take much power to get loud. 50 watts rms of good amplifier power will be loud enough, i just didn't know what kind of fronts you had. I guess their jl, so that's good

oh yeah there's no way my amp is turned up all the way. it's up like 1/3 of the way on both the front and rear gains. anything more and i think it's too much power. i personally wouldn't have chosen this amp, but i came up on it in a trade for a b16 head a couple weeks ago. the amp came on an MTX thunder 4500 series 15" sub with a box. and since i drive the integra sedan, it wouldn't fit into the trunk. . . only if i had a hatch... lol. oh well. so i sold the sub and box and yeah... now i'm still venturing into some other shizz.

here's the 15 i was referring to...
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/sub1.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/sub2.jpg

M Cook
04-05-2009, 12:33 AM
I spy VTEC. Welcome to the site.

What kind of Honda do you have?

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:33 AM
here's a shot of my old setup. i sold it with the car. it was all in my jeep grand cherokee. pretty basic setup i guess. it was a sony HU with pioneer premier 6" speaks all around. and then the type R 10" in ported box to the alpine specs. i only ran a 400watt mtx thunder amp (old mosfet power) on the bridge channel and it pounded pretty good. i've been a fan of the alpine subs for a minute now. they sound pretty good i think.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/sub.jpg

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:35 AM
I spy VTEC. Welcome to the site.

What kind of Honda do you have?

nice eye.. you spy an older accord motor. out of 95 accord. i swapped in a new jdm f22b into my friends accord a little while ago... that's the old one sitting on the ground. it has a fat hole through the crankcase where the snapped rod decided to find a new home outside. . lol.

and i drive a 96 db7 integra.... i think i mentioned that somewhere.

M Cook
04-05-2009, 12:37 AM
nice eye.. you spy an older accord motor. out of 95 accord. i swapped in a new jdm f22b into my friends accord a little while ago... that's the old one sitting on the ground. it has a fat hole through the crankcase where the snapped rod decided to find a new home outside. . lol.

and i drive a 96 db8 integra.... i think i mentioned that somewhere.

Haha. I was going to drop a h22 in my accord but ended up selling the car before I found a good motor. I didnt even see the integra part though.

I actually read your post about the integra...lol im stupid.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:41 AM
Haha. I was going to drop a h22 in my accord but ended up selling the car before I found a good motor. I didnt even see the integra part though.

I actually read your post about the integra...lol im stupid.

it's cool. and personally i would never do an h swap. i probably wouldn't do an accord either.. but if i did have an accord and i wanted to swap something tarded into it, i would Gswap it. f23 block/h22 head on kseries typeR pistons. . . that's just me though if i were to go with accord shizz... i like to stick with the Bseries personally.. i may adventure into the k (cuz they're easy as fkuc) but they're just more expensive.

M Cook
04-05-2009, 12:44 AM
it's cool. and personally i would never do an h swap. i probably wouldn't do an accord either.. but if i did have an accord and i wanted to swap something tarded into it, i would Gswap it. f23 block/h22 head on kseries typeR pistons. . . that's just me though if i were to go with accord shizz... i like to stick with the Bseries personally.. i may adventure into the k (cuz they're easy as fkuc) but they're just more expensive.

Actually alot of people have h22s in accords, and since I have sold the accord, and thought about it...I'm glad I didn't b/c it would have been to much work and money when the car wasn't worth all that much.

I had a 92 accord frame code cb7. >.<

Friends h22 swap:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/antscoe/030.jpg

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:47 AM
Actually alot of people have h22s in accords, and since I have sold the accord, and thought about it...I'm glad I didn't b/c it would have been to much work and money when the car wasn't worth all that much.

I had a 92 accord frame code cb7. >.<

yeah the hswap was pretty popular in the late 90's and the beginning of the turn. but no one is out there running 9 and 10 sec quarter miles in an h series these days. maybe a handful of people in the country have been able to do that. around here everyone that's putting down 500-1000 whp is doing it in a hybrid bseries setup of some sort. and that is what i am building. before getting into car audio, my adventures were building motors (and still are).

M Cook
04-05-2009, 12:53 AM
yeah the hswap was pretty popular in the late 90's and the beginning of the turn. but no one is out there running 9 and 10 sec quarter miles in an h series these days. maybe a handful of people in the country have been able to do that. around here everyone that's putting down 500-1000 whp is doing it in a hybrid bseries setup of some sort. and that is what i am building. before getting into car audio, my adventures were building motors (and still are).

Oh, yea, for 9s and 10s I wouldn't do a H swap, but mainly these guys are just using them as daily drivers and they do get a power boost from the hs over stock.

B20?
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x291/hectorA_01/IMG00415.jpg

Never seen a b series in a 90-94 accord though, must be a difficult swap, and thats why most do the h22, its straight forward.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 12:56 AM
yeah i guess if it were like more of a show car, any swap will seem pretty bad *** under the hood. but yeah, the motor i am building is for daily drive purposes. . . i would just like to turn up the power as much as i can do safely on a build. 400+whp on a boosted hybrid motor really is the icing on the cake when it comes to the all over driving experience imo.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 01:10 AM
that hswap of a friend of yours looks clean as fkuc btw. pretty bad ***. my only problem with the motor is that it weighs a ridiculous amount for the power produced. other than that their cast iron sleeves are probably their biggest selling point in my book. they can take a fkuc load of boost without blowing a sleeve. that is the biggest downfall with the bseries. aluminum sleeves loose their integrity around 20 psi boost (depending) so the b-block is only good to about 500 whp without sleeving it. but then once you have a sleeved b-block on your hands, it's just about how good of a turbo setup you have to put down 500, 600, 700, 800,900++++ whp. just my .02 on swaps.

M Cook
04-05-2009, 01:10 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3216/2918042136_e49c6671dc_o.jpg

This is one of the highest HP cb7s I have actually seen in person.

Not sure what his numbers are, but they were up there for a f22.

Of course when your throwin that kind of money around, it better be puttin out some good numbers.


that hswap of a friend of yours looks clean as fkuc btw. pretty bad ***. my only problem with the motor is that it weighs a ridiculous amount for the power produced. other than that their cast iron sleeves are probably their biggest selling point in my book. they can take a fkuc load of boost without blowing a sleeve. that is the biggest downfall with the bseries. aluminum sleeves loose their integrity around 20 psi boost (depending) so the b-block is only good to about 500 whp without sleeving it. but then once you have a sleeved b-block on your hands, it's just about how good of a turbo setup you have to put down 500, 600, 700, 800,900++++ whp. just my .02 on swaps.


Most of these are just basically show cars, or well...basically who can have the best looking h22..also I think they are so common because there is so much information on the h22 swap for the 90-94 accords.

We use to have cb7 meets, like 50+ cb7s per meet, thats why i miss mine so much.

Incase your wondering the cb7s are this (haven't seen this one inperson =\)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7068/shiet4nx3.jpg


I know someone who has done a h23 swap, whats the diff between the h22 and h23?

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 01:23 AM
yeah i like those old accords. i'm actually looking for a 4door for my sister to drive. and i believe that b20s used to come in older preludes, so i don't think that they would be that hard to swap into an accord.

and i'm pretty sure you could safely tune 12lbs to a stock accord motor. 12 lbs on that motor could = 300+whp if done right. what kinda turbo mani is on that fseries?

M Cook
04-05-2009, 01:30 AM
Heres everything he has done to the motor.

Bottom End
• F22B1 Golden Eagle Sleeved Block
• Custom 87mm Arias F22 pistons
• Crower H23 rods
• ARP rod bolts
• ARP headstuds
• ACL main/rod bearings
• balanced bottom end
• Custom 87mm headgasket - Bisimoto Engineering
• TOGA high volume oil pump

Head
• F22a4 Sohc Non-Vtec Head, very light port on exhaust side
• Bisimoto Engineering Stg 1.2 Cam
• Bisimoto Engineering Adjustable Cam Gear
• Bisimoto Engineering Valvesprings
• Valve seals - New OEM
• 35-Degree Cut OEM Valves
• Matched Valve seats
• Custom airbrushed Bisimoto Logo - Shaved Valve Cover

Turbo Setup
• Custom Mini-Ram Manifold
• Precision GT3076R
• Fast-Turbo Oil Line Kit
• Fast-Turbo vaccum block kit
• Tial 38mm wastegate
• Synapse Engineering Synchronic BOV
• AEM Boost sensor (boost by gear)
• Greddy style oil catch can, custom dual vented from valve cover
• GM 3 bar map sensor

Fuel
• AEM High Volume Fuel Rail
• Aeromotive FPR w/ gauge
• Precision 1000cc Injectors
• Walbro 255lph fuel pump

Chargepipes/Intake
• H23 Throttle Body
• H23 intake manifold, IAB plate removed, ported
• Bisimoto Engineering heat-shielding intake manifold gasket
• NGK 8mm wires
• Custom Aluminum 2.5" to 3" chargepipes
• 3" K&N Air Intake Filter
• FMIC , 3" core, 3" inlet/outlet

Ignition / Cooling
• MSD 6a ignition
• MSD cap
• MSD Blaster SS Coil
• Trigger Box / Ignitor eliminated
• NGK V-power R5672a-8 3 step colder plugs
• Aluminum Dual Core Half-Radiator
• Flex-A-Lite electric fan
• 170-degree Thermostat

Weight Reduction/Removed parts
• Heater bypassed
• AC system components removed
• Power Steering removed
• EGR System Bypassed
• Cruise Control removed
• Emmisions box removed
• Charcoal canister removed
• Battery Trunk Relocation

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 01:42 AM
please tell me that he didn't use acl duraglide bearings. i've had nothing but bad luck using cheap bearings. the duraglides and the king race bearings both are garbage. half the time they pit during clearance checks. i use a bare minimum of acl race series or clevit h bearings only. those are all i will use. even after you can get the cheaper bearing in without scarring them, there soft material gets beat up under load and they spin easily because of it. lol. better bearings ftw. other than that his parts list seems pretty official. i probably wouldnt have spent the money on sleeving the block though. f series sleeves already can take a shizz load of boost as above mentioned.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 01:44 AM
oh and how is that accord tuned??? what fuel???

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 05:52 PM
so i'm lookin for some base up in my ride. as i mentioned earlier, i'm amped to my inside speakers but i have no sub at the moment. i've been really happy with the alpine typeR 10s as i ran one in my jeep and loved it. but i'm lookin for some serious boom back there.

what would be a good way to go?

where's a place to get a killer deal on a 1000watt monoblock amp, and a typeR 10 in a box made for the alpine sub specs? that's ultimately what i would like to run. any advice would be greatly appreciated. and thanks in advanced.

M Cook
04-05-2009, 07:11 PM
Oh its tuner for 93 octane, and I talked to him its making 353 HP at the wheels... Thats gettin it for a f series..

This guy goes to loads of shows. Ill try to meet up with him sometime and see how it rides, and how it pulls...
Hes owned the car since it came off the lot, and he takes care of it, thats why its worth buying a brand new car, so you can do whatever you like, and know it has been taken care of.

fast_4_door
04-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Oh its tuner for 93 octane, and I talked to him its making 353 HP at the wheels... Thats gettin it for a f series..

This guy goes to loads of shows. Ill try to meet up with him sometime and see how it rides, and how it pulls...
Hes owned the car since it came off the lot, and he takes care of it, thats why its worth buying a brand new car, so you can do whatever you like, and know it has been taken care of.

yeah that's pretty good for f-series. i bet that's one fun ride. but 353 whp on a sleeved block? he coulda done that without spending the extra grand on a sleeve job. i mean if you can get more than 500 whp on stock aluminum b-sleeves. i would think that he could get at least that on stock cast iron f-sleeves. just my opinion.. take it with a grain of salt.

do you guys have other fuel readily available out there?? like e85 or 101 octane something? that would make a huge difference if he were to get tuned on better fuel. pump gas is garbage to use on any kinda big boosted setup. it's real octane rating not only varies from pump to pump, but varies day to day at the pump. so one day it'll feel all good, like it's nicely tuned, and other days it won't feel like the right fuel curve untill you add some booster. just my experience with these setups.

M Cook
04-05-2009, 09:17 PM
yeah that's pretty good for f-series. i bet that's one fun ride. but 353 whp on a sleeved block? he coulda done that without spending the extra grand on a sleeve job. i mean if you can get more than 500 whp on stock aluminum b-sleeves. i would think that he could get at least that on stock cast iron f-sleeves. just my opinion.. take it with a grain of salt.

do you guys have other fuel readily available out there?? like e85 or 101 octane something? that would make a huge difference if he were to get tuned on better fuel. pump gas is garbage to use on any kinda big boosted setup. it's real octane rating not only varies from pump to pump, but varies day to day at the pump. so one day it'll feel all good, like it's nicely tuned, and other days it won't feel like the right fuel curve untill you add some booster. just my experience with these setups.

we have e85, I've never seen 101. Ill look into it. I'm sure he could get more but he needs a bigger turbo.

fast_4_door
04-06-2009, 02:59 AM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/stanleydistributionpowdercoatjobont.jpg

here's a quick pic i snapped with my cellular the other day up at school. thought i would share. i bought the car with spun rod bearing. and just swapped in another LS from a year newer that i got off of a fellow local honda enthusiast here. . i just got the cover powder coated the black chrome powder by a local powder coat company called stanley distribution.

http://www.stanleydistribution.com/

only mods are the injen intake, dc 4to1 header, greddy sp2 exhaust, and the stereo that i am rockin. i'm workin on a motor build. i wanna drive on 400+whp. i'm pretty close to having everything together, but finding any spare time between school and work is next to impossible. i wired up my system between classes one day. lol. i ran through it like a maniac.

fast_4_door
04-06-2009, 03:00 AM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/stanleydistributionpowdercoatjobont.jpg

here's a quick pic i snapped with my cellular the other day up at school. thought i would share. i bought the car with spun rod bearing. and just swapped in another LS from a year newer that i got off of a fellow local honda enthusiast here. . i just got the cover powder coated the black chrome powder by a local powder coat company called stanley distribution.

http://www.stanleydistribution.com/

only mods are the injen intake, dc 4to1 header, greddy sp2 exhaust, and the stereo that i am rockin. i'm workin on a motor build. i wanna drive on 400+whp. i'm pretty close to having everything together, but finding any spare time between school and work is next to impossible. i wired up my system between classes one day. lol. i ran through it like a maniac.

fast_4_door
04-06-2009, 03:14 AM
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e319/fast_4_door/stanleydistributionpowdercoatjobont.jpg

here's a quick pic i snapped with my cellular the other day up at school. thought i would share. i bought the car with spun rod bearing. and just swapped in another LS from a year newer that i got off of a fellow local honda enthusiast here. . i just got the cover powder coated the black chrome powder by a local powder coat company called stanley distribution.

http://www.stanleydistribution.com/

only mods are the injen intake, dc 4to1 header, greddy sp2 exhaust, and the stereo that i am rockin. i'm workin on a motor build. i wanna drive on 400+whp. i'm pretty close to having everything together, but finding any spare time between school and work is next to impossible. i wired up my system between classes one day. lol. i ran through it like a maniac.

fast_4_door
04-06-2009, 03:27 AM
we have e85, I've never seen 101. Ill look into it. I'm sure he could get more but he needs a bigger turbo.

if he's on a gt30 sized turbo, he should be able to turn up the boost to at least 28 lbs. that would get him ungodly amounts of power. tuned on e85 i can promise close to if not over 500 whp on that setup. as long as that manifold is decent, a mean it's a ram horn design so that's at least going to flow well with the cam choice. so i see no reason why that dude can't be rockin 500+ whp with that exact setup, just different fuel and tuned for higher amounts of boost. it would be ridiculous.

denim
09-22-2009, 10:02 AM
Welcome to CA.