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iamamp3pimp
04-02-2009, 11:06 PM
I'd like to say that this is nothing againse DB Linc, as i have met a few of you guys, and talked over the phone, and you are all cool as **** in my book, but he is associated with you, so here it goes...

now for starters, I bought the 2 blown fi q's from him, if i had known it would have taken him near a month to ship them, i wouldnt have bought them.

I paid on 2-12 and he shipped them out on 3-2, and since 3-4, they have been in jacksonville.

If i knew he was going to ship them Parcel Post, i wouldnt have bought them. As far as insurance goes, anyone with half a brain insures whatever they send when using this site..... because these shipping assholes break things all the time.

He has not contacted USPS at all regarding the matter, leaving me to do the footwork, only for them to tell me there is nothing that they can do about it, because the shipper did not insure the package.

I have all PM's ready to post if necessary.

I have called him on several occasions, and he says that he will call/visit the USPS store that he used to ship the speakers, and every time, i have heard nothing back from him.

I am hoping that he makes this right, because I'm out 175 bucks, and i have nothing to show for it, at all.

iamamp3pimp
04-02-2009, 11:07 PM
I already filed a paypal claim on 3-25, and the status is "awaiting sellers response"

S.B.C.
04-03-2009, 01:00 AM
Jeez....

I disputed a claim (not against him)- and after 2 weeks it was a No Seller Response- and I was awarded my $$ back-

Soooo maybe he wont answer back- check out how that works

GL

vitveet
04-03-2009, 09:21 AM
I already filed a paypal claim on 3-25, and the status is "awaiting sellers response"

***** man. So how badly were they damaged? Any pics? Were they packed well or no?

V.

iamamp3pimp
04-03-2009, 11:20 AM
I never got them,

USPS "Lost them" in Jacksonville.

the tinsels were blown when i bought em and thats why i got em so cheap.

Bmoorman05
04-03-2009, 04:46 PM
You are quite an ******* if i must say. I sold these to you cheap as ****. You paid 40 for shipping. It cost me 48$ to ship out uninsured. Which you never specified wether you wanted them insured or not. So i didnt because you didnt pay for it. This isnt my ****up its usps and yours for being cheap and not paying for it. It took 12 days for the money order to get here from paypal. I shipped out asap after i got the check.


Heres the tracking info so i can prove im not a theif.

0308 0660 0000 2323 6900

0308 0660 0000 2323 6894

I did everything i was supposed to and im being accused as a scammer. Your real mature man thanks alot for ruining my rep for another persons ****up.

duece212
04-03-2009, 04:51 PM
always ship insured whether the customer asks or not...choosing not to insure just sets you up for failure and is bad business

Bmoorman05
04-03-2009, 04:55 PM
its not my fault he didnt send me the money to insure it.

Pop da Hatch
04-03-2009, 04:59 PM
Typical CA.com Bull Sh*t god d*mn this site went to sh*t, yall going to h*ll.

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duece212
04-03-2009, 05:03 PM
its not my fault he didnt send me the money to insure it.

Shipping without insurance is just a dumb move, its for you as much as the buyer. Your part of the deal is to deliver goods, the goods didn't get delivered.

If a few bucks for insurance are going to break you, account for it when setting the price. Pretty much knowing how shipping companies operate its just irresponsible to ship anything of decent value without insurance unless you plan on replacing or refunding if something happens.

A few bucks could have saved you alot of headaches...

finkster
04-03-2009, 05:04 PM
its not my fault he didnt send me the money to insure it.

did u tell him how much it would be insured?

Bmoorman05
04-03-2009, 05:10 PM
he never mentioned it once to me.

--Navi--
04-03-2009, 05:14 PM
You ship, you insure, you dont, you screwed. Pay up.

Macklessdaddy
04-03-2009, 05:14 PM
its not my fault he didnt send me the money to insure it.

Did you ask him for it and he refused?

dbeez
04-03-2009, 05:30 PM
As a seller and from time to time buyer I must say this disturbs me the attitude moorman takes in this I would never ship something to someone without insurance as that protects buyer and seller.I also feel moorman needs to pay back the money for the very poor business practice of I put it in a box and dropped it off whether or not you get it is not my fault attitude...Mark this as a never ship without insurance whether you ask or not simply put shipping without insurance is not an option period...

NewAgeKing
04-03-2009, 05:32 PM
You ship, you insure, you dont, you screwed. Pay up.

This. I would never ship without insurance, that is just stupid.

iamamp3pimp
04-03-2009, 06:23 PM
You are quite an ******* if i must say. I sold these to you cheap as ****. You paid 40 for shipping. It cost me 48$ to ship out uninsured. Which you never specified wether you wanted them insured or not. So i didnt because you didnt pay for it. This isnt my ****up its usps and yours for being cheap and not paying for it. It took 12 days for the money order to get here from paypal. I shipped out asap after i got the check.


Heres the tracking info so i can prove im not a theif.

0308 0660 0000 2323 6900

0308 0660 0000 2323 6894

I did everything i was supposed to and im being accused as a scammer. Your real mature man thanks alot for ruining my rep for another persons ****up.

i made it a point to not call you a scammer bro, re read my post, and all my PM's as i never called you a scammer.

I never denied that you shipped them, and i never denied that they lost them, or stole them.

my problem is that I paid you for something that i do not have.

The insurance is protection for YOU, not for me. You are supposed to either make sure the buyer gets his item, or his money back if something goes wrong.

How am i an *******? The only reason i went publis is because you stopped answering my calls, and my PM's. I mentioned in more than one voicemail that i dont want to take this to the boards, but youa re leaving me no choice.

iamamp3pimp
04-03-2009, 06:25 PM
Did you ask him for it and he refused?

no, the insurance never came up.

neither did the fact that he was going to wait for the paypal money order to clear before he shipped.

I paid him and he waited until he got the money order from paypal to send them out, he should have sent them out 2-3 days after payment was recoeved into his paypal account...

Macklessdaddy
04-03-2009, 06:32 PM
no, the insurance never came up.

neither did the fact that he was going to wait for the paypal money order to clear before he shipped.

I paid him and he waited until he got the money order from paypal to send them out, he should have sent them out 2-3 days after payment was recoeved into his paypal account...
Oh I know he didn't ask,I guess I was trying to make him see he was being stupid by not insuring it

peas247
04-03-2009, 06:43 PM
you gotta be one hell of a cheap s.o.b not to insure something. everything i ship out is insured weither the buyer asked for it or not. its commen sence

BobbyDD
04-03-2009, 11:47 PM
The item belongs to the seller until the buyer recieves it. Since the buyer didn't recieve it, refund his money.

iamamp3pimp
04-04-2009, 01:42 PM
so are you going to make this right?

rollerdj
04-04-2009, 01:59 PM
you gotta be one hell of a cheap s.o.b not to insure something. everything i ship out is insured weither the buyer asked for it or not. its commen sence

i agree 100% with this. everything i ship out is insured. i know ups you can insure for 100 bucks and it does not cost you a dime. you want more than that, it's still dirt cheap.

dbeez
04-06-2009, 08:30 PM
So has money been refunded or what?

ngsm13
04-06-2009, 08:46 PM
The item belongs to the seller until the buyer recieves it. Since the buyer didn't recieve it, refund his money.

This.

nG

Skip01
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Its like 5 bucks to insure up too 1000 bucks or so

Maybe not that cheap, but it doesnt affect the price of shipping that much to not put it on....heck its free to insure for 100 bucks

iamamp3pimp
04-06-2009, 11:36 PM
absolutely not.

he is ignoring my calls.

this is stil unresolved.

iamamp3pimp
04-06-2009, 11:37 PM
Ill be calling DB Linc tomorrow to talk with jake, and let him know what kind of people are representing his crew.

I'm sure he wont be happy about it.

stangman67
04-06-2009, 11:38 PM
Wow the problems with buying/selling on this place is ridiculous. I have already been taken on 2 deals and I have only bought 10 items or so

lilmaniac2
04-06-2009, 11:39 PM
Insurance is for the seller not the buyer :fyi:

I hope your lying POS gets off this site and never returns.

PsychoTheRapist
04-06-2009, 11:43 PM
Only a fool would ship without insurance. Noted.

KyleBechtold
04-06-2009, 11:45 PM
who did he ship with? if ups he atleast gets $100 free..

Thread Saver
04-06-2009, 11:51 PM
who did he ship with? if ups he atleast gets $100 free..

would it have killed you to actually read the thread?

Robin, GL to you in getting this resolved.

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 12:47 AM
Come on dude, dont be worthless.....

lilmaniac2
04-08-2009, 12:49 AM
Did you call his work?

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 12:51 AM
i forgot, i was busy working myself to make up for the money that i lost on this deal....

lilmaniac2
04-08-2009, 12:53 AM
Guy is a piece of crap

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 12:42 PM
Bump

mk_
04-08-2009, 12:46 PM
Ship with insurance or else pay up.

bball09124
04-08-2009, 12:47 PM
What a *****. Now that he KNOWS he needs to fix the mistake he made he disappears. He needs to grow a pair and refund your money.

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 01:29 PM
yup.

its pitiful

duece212
04-08-2009, 01:33 PM
***** man, hopefully he steps up and does the right thing. He has to realize he was wrong otherwise he would have stayed in here trying to defend himself.

Alot of people think the sale is over once they have their money and the product is out of their hands. Real customer service is end to end though, if you can't provide that you really shouldn't be selling things...

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 01:33 PM
that was my take on it

ill post the PM's here soon.....he told me i was a crazy *******

duece212
04-08-2009, 01:36 PM
he told me i was a crazy *******

while that may be true, it doesn't change the specifics of the situation :laugh:

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 01:37 PM
only because of my car....lmao

but serious, I dont want to bash him, just to get this resolved.

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 03:30 PM
seeking a resolution, im calling him now.

left him a voicemail with my name and number.(again)

i wonder if he has registered with another name now that his first one is involved in this mess

hornedfrog1985
04-08-2009, 05:33 PM
I like this thread.

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 06:47 PM
why is that?

mobeious
04-08-2009, 07:28 PM
***** *** .... just some FYI UPS charges 2dollars per 100 dollars of insurance thats after the 100 they cover automaticaly

peas247
04-08-2009, 07:31 PM
***** *** .... just some FYI UPS charges 2dollars per 100 dollars of insurance thats after the 100 they cover automaticaly

my point exactly you have to be the cheapest ******* ever not to insure something

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 07:37 PM
another AMERICAN scammer at it again... :laugh:

sorry to hear about the situation OP...

profundus-sanus
04-08-2009, 07:45 PM
Come on man.....

If brian would just call usps and make them take care of it... They flat out lost it, its not either of your fault's that that happened. although granted it was brians mistake for not using insurance, he should be the one to take care of it.

Brian, man up and get jakes name out of the dirt.

hornedfrog1985
04-08-2009, 07:46 PM
How did you get a computer and internet in your igloo?

duece212
04-08-2009, 07:46 PM
This is exactly why I won't sell to Canada!

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 07:48 PM
This is exactly why I won't sell to Canada!

please explain to me why it is....

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 07:49 PM
How did you get a computer and internet in your igloo?

you live in IOWA...at least thats what I gather... that in itself is a shame for one to endure...lol

NEXT !!!!

Farmacist
04-08-2009, 07:58 PM
you live in IOWA...at least thats what I gather... that in itself is a shame for one to endure...lol

NEXT !!!!

:laugh: pwned

Johnny Law.Lulz
04-08-2009, 08:02 PM
Im 16 years old and i know to ship with insurance, its common sense. If i ship something and it arrives broken its my responisibility because i didnt pack it properly for the shipping companies manhandling, and if i didnt insure it then its up to me to do the right thing and refund the money. I think people who are cheap enough to cause themselves problems like this shouldnt be allowed to sell. ITs ridiculous that a good business name is involved in this and i hope the owner/boss finds out about this. IF you want to cry because he didnt mention insurance to you then you should be the smart one to offer it, i include delivery confirmation and insurance in everything i ship. Whether its worth $2 or $2000.


Cliffs
- Every one knows to use insurance
- Seller needs to refund money and own up
- Good luck to buyer to get his money back.

hornedfrog1985
04-08-2009, 08:07 PM
you live in IOWA...at least thats what I gather... that in itself is a shame for one to endure...lol

NEXT !!!!

I live in a city of 200,000 people. I live 2.5 hours from chicago, 4 hours from st. louis, 4 hours from Omaha. Your entire territory probably has less than my city.

Maybe you should go to canadiancaraudio.com or wtf ever it is since your always griping about America. ***.

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 08:18 PM
I live in a city of 200,000 people. I live 2.5 hours from chicago, 4 hours from st. louis, 4 hours from Omaha. Your entire territory probably has less than my city.

Maybe you should go to canadiancaraudio.com or wtf ever it is since your always griping about America. ***.

hahahahahaha :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
you are sadly mistaken about me having any ill will towards Americans... nice try..
as for your take on where I live... another mistake :laugh::laugh:

I live in TORONTO... go look it up... dont sit there and talk to me about I live this far away from this place and that far away from another place... dont try and BIG UP your little village on the coat tails of other places...

I live in one of the largest cities in the WORLD you moron... once again my condolences for living in IOWA :laugh:

Farmacist
04-08-2009, 08:23 PM
it could be worse....try living in detroit

iamamp3pimp
04-08-2009, 09:00 PM
Come on man.....

If brian would just call usps and make them take care of it... They flat out lost it, its not either of your fault's that that happened. although granted it was brians mistake for not using insurance, he should be the one to take care of it.

Brian, man up and get jakes name out of the dirt.

Thanks Nick.

bigbangtheory
04-08-2009, 10:07 PM
Jesus DUMPED, STFU! Anytime someone mentions Canada, you flip! Many people have had bad experiences with over the border situations.

We know you love being a Canuck, and you stick up for your country, we get it.......we really do......

Now back to the topic at hand. You could have Pmed Duece about why he don't like to ship to Canada.

Hope this gets resolved Robin. Your a good dood and don't deserve this.

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Jesus DUMPED, STFU! Anytime someone mentions Canada, you flip! Many people have had bad experiences with over the border situations.

We know you love being a Canuck, and you stick up for your country, we get it.......we really do......

Now back to the topic at hand. You could have Pmed Duece about why he don't like to ship to Canada.

Hope this gets resolved Robin. Your a good dood and don't deserve this.

UP YOURS *** HOLE............ when do I flip out ?
you PRICK... I simply commented and asked him why...
did I insult him?
did I start throwing around rude remakrs... NO!!

so LICK MY NUTS you PRICK...

DUMPED
04-08-2009, 10:12 PM
and for the record do you see anyone coming on here bashing "Americans" or anyone for that case when they pull a scam?

at no time have a said anything negative about a persons location or where they are from..

back on TOPIC... hope the OP gets things figured out... good luck to you

bigbangtheory
04-08-2009, 10:16 PM
UP YOURS *** HOLE............ when do I flip out ?
you PRICK... I simply commented and asked him why...
did I insult him?
did I start throwing around rude remakrs... NO!!

so LICK MY NUTS you PRICK...

Not responding to you on this. You flip out all the time about when someone says they won't ship to Canada. I can pull 20 plus out of the one thread with Kent, but no point. You want to spat, PM me, if not then you said your peace with this fliped out response, lawl!

lilmaniac2
04-08-2009, 10:18 PM
UP YOURS *** HOLE............ when do I flip out ?
you PRICK... I simply commented and asked him why...
did I insult him?
did I start throwing around rude remakrs... NO!!

so LICK MY NUTS you PRICK...


pretty sure this whole post is you flipping out.... LOL

davidtemple
04-09-2009, 11:59 PM
**** I remember when you could buy anything on here and get exactly what they quote was for sale or trade.

times have changed and boy does it **** .

FED-EX or UPS Free 100$ insurance after that you pay, also when shipping in the US always get a DC# when using USPS the others you get one automatically.

GL

iamamp3pimp
04-10-2009, 06:13 AM
Looks like he just doesnt care.

Im calling DB Linc today to see waht they feel about someone representing them, and then doing this....

dbeez
04-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Have you called yet..

iamamp3pimp
04-10-2009, 03:25 PM
working on it now...

iamamp3pimp
04-10-2009, 03:26 PM
voicemail at the shop number

dbeez
04-10-2009, 03:26 PM
Good lets hear some results after hope it works for you...

iamamp3pimp
04-10-2009, 03:27 PM
Calling Brian again...

Voicemail...

iamamp3pimp
04-10-2009, 03:28 PM
no results, this dude isnt going to pay up, its blatantly obvious.

now what?

In your opinion, is this situation able to be taken any further with IC3?

dbeez
04-10-2009, 03:30 PM
I dont see why not he failed to deliver said product..

bigbangtheory
04-11-2009, 08:55 AM
***** mang, what did the shop say?

iamamp3pimp
04-11-2009, 08:58 AM
nothing

voicemail

davidtemple
04-11-2009, 10:28 AM
If you have his info goto your court house and file a small claims case against him. He will have to come to your state to take care of this issue.

This would cost him more than $175.00 so maybe he would take care of the issue.

iamamp3pimp
04-11-2009, 10:58 AM
hmmm

maybe ill give that a shot.

wouldnt it cost me money as well?

iamamp3pimp
04-11-2009, 09:07 PM
After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and
will take appropriate action against the seller. Such action may include
issuing a warning, a temporary restriction, or terminating the account.
Keep in mind that PayPal uses a number of factors to determine when to take
action, including member complaints. Due to privacy laws, we cannot discuss
the details of any action taken. We hope you understand our policy and that
it assures you that you are safe using PayPal.

Thats nice.




Cliffs

Paypal decided in my favor, but was unable to recover fnds from sellers account

iamamp3pimp
04-11-2009, 09:10 PM
so Monday im contacting the IC3 folks, and calling to find out how to open a case in small claims against him.


and ill be visiting my bank with this paypal letter to get the charges reversed.

davidtemple
04-11-2009, 09:11 PM
Thats nice.




Cliffs

Paypal decided in my favor, but was unable to revover fnds from sellers account

Basically means you will not get jack ****, he will setup another account with paypal down the road with new info and CC.

Hopefully I'm wrong but that is how it has happened for some guys i know.

:rolleyes:

iamamp3pimp
04-12-2009, 05:19 PM
yeah, unfortunately.

This really makes me not want to use paypal.

hazardous0388
04-15-2009, 10:15 AM
yeah, unfortunately.

This really makes me not want to use paypal.

why dont you just go kill him? I'll do it...lets sayyyy...for $175?

iamamp3pimp
04-15-2009, 02:03 PM
i cant do it

then no one would be able to take care of her

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i228/xxoteartjxx/100_1791.jpg

he is stealing food from her mouth :fyi:

cj407
04-15-2009, 02:08 PM
no but i can go do it....for a small fee of 200....lol

mazzasec
04-15-2009, 02:31 PM
Usa!

iamamp3pimp
04-15-2009, 02:50 PM
not even tempting.

iamamp3pimp
04-15-2009, 07:19 PM
so what now?

i know that you are still lurking and i keep calling you every day.

this isnt going to just go away, its only going to get worse.

galacticmonkey
05-06-2009, 12:44 PM
Any update?

TKCARAUDIO
05-14-2009, 03:31 PM
yeah, unfortunately.

This really makes me not want to use paypal.


This is why I dont deal with pay pal the are stupid Fockers and dont help anyone unless its with ebay...

Good luck with getting your money back from that coward...

iamamp3pimp
05-14-2009, 04:10 PM
well i did get one sub in the other day

still owes me one.

crash9201
05-14-2009, 05:46 PM
just keep calling him, his place of bussiness, his house, his wife anything every1... like i mean go to a phone booth with 50$ in quaters and just keep calling him.... i know if i was him and my phone never stopped ringing, id give you the 175$ just to get you to leave me the *** alone

iamamp3pimp
05-14-2009, 05:54 PM
he doesnt answer the phone.

BigOso
05-14-2009, 06:05 PM
Have you tried researching his name. Maybe do some investigating and call people he knows, where he works and tell them what a POS he his. I know how you feel when you have kids. It feels like someones not only taking advantage of you but also your children. Because ultimately they are stealing food out of their mouths or clothes off their backs. Good luck man. I hope you get either your money back or what you paid for.

caps
05-18-2009, 11:13 AM
anything resolved?

Annnarbor84
06-09-2009, 12:11 AM
Thats nice.




Cliffs

Paypal decided in my favor, but was unable to recover fnds from sellers account



How's that for buyer protection. False advertisement if you ask me. Good luck with this, I don't know why communication is **** a motherfvcker:rolleyes:

its_bacon12
06-09-2009, 05:06 PM
The item belongs to the seller until the buyer recieves it. Since the buyer didn't recieve it, refund his money.

According to accounting rules if seller (company) pays for shipping, yes you are correct. But if buyer pays shipping, then it is no longer seller's responsibility once shipped.

I do not know whether or not the legalities implied are the same as for companies.

iamamp3pimp
06-09-2009, 05:53 PM
Youre the first person to disagree.

When something is sold as 175 "Shipped", then who paid for the shipping?

In my eyes, unless you are given an exact price for shipping like 145+32.17 shipping then the seller paid for it.

duece212
06-09-2009, 05:55 PM
According to accounting rules if seller (company) pays for shipping, yes you are correct. But if buyer pays shipping, then it is no longer seller's responsibility once shipped.

I do not know whether or not the legalities implied are the same as for companies.


Youre the first person to disagree.

When something is sold as 175 "Shipped", then who paid for the shipping?

In my eyes, unless you are given an exact price for shipping like 145+32.17 shipping then the seller paid for it.

thats just stupid. The seller is the one who paid the shipping company (actually put cash in their hands, or gave them a credit card# online, etc) so the seller is responsible.

If the buyer provided a shipping label, or scheduled a pickup of the product from the buyer with their shipping company/account I could see otherwise.

blah

BobbyDD
06-09-2009, 05:58 PM
According to accounting rules if seller (company) pays for shipping, yes you are correct. But if buyer pays shipping, then it is no longer seller's responsibility once shipped.

I do not know whether or not the legalities implied are the same as for companies.

I was speaking more ethically than legally.

fearof85
06-09-2009, 06:49 PM
I just insured a $150 sub for $250 so that if any thing happened I have enough to cover the my own *** and some. I could have taken the cheap route because the buyer "didn't pay for insurance" but that's not how we do things on here. Fix your **** up and be done with it.
Good luck Robin.


Drew

its_bacon12
06-09-2009, 08:28 PM
Youre the first person to disagree.

When something is sold as 175 "Shipped", then who paid for the shipping?

In my eyes, unless you are given an exact price for shipping like 145+32.17 shipping then the seller paid for it.




I was just clarifying the definition from a legal standpoint. By no means was I saying I disagreed, you misinterpreted.

Besides, according to what I said it would still leave the seller liable. How you got me disagreeing with you is beyond me.

And it's determined if shipping is included in the price or "free shipping" is offered, or it is explicitly said "plus shipping" or something along those lines in a clear and coherent manner.

iamamp3pimp
06-10-2009, 12:02 AM
gotcha, my bad


It was included in the price....

QuickXR
07-25-2009, 06:35 AM
This business DB Linc Designs must be a terrible place to deal with aswell. You can't even get ahold of anyone at the shop. Good thing i didn't stop in that place the other day when i drove by...

iamamp3pimp
07-25-2009, 10:13 AM
you should stop by and strong arm my money from this douchebag


then keep it.