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nightryderz05
04-02-2009, 11:37 PM
I currently have Hertz MLK165 in my vehicle. I kind of want to try something new, I heard a set of DLS Iridium's and the sound just blew me away. I was also told good things about Dynaudio. So I want ya'lls opinion on which I should try to get. I was looking at the DLS Neobellium (sp?) and the Dynaudio Esotec. They will be powered by an Arc Audio se2300 amp (330x2 at 4ohms).

Also anyone know if the DLS or Dynaudio off woofersetc is legit? I read on DLS's site that there is a knock-off version of their products.

azbass
04-02-2009, 11:40 PM
DLS amps powering Dynaudio speakers. :)

nightryderz05
04-02-2009, 11:48 PM
I don't know, I spent quite a bit on my Arc amps. I purchased 2 Arc se2300's. One to power my MLK165's and one to power my DD 3512e subwoofer.

If I was to change out to Dynaudio speakers and DLS amps. Which amps would I need for the Esotec? I wouldn't mind going with the higher end Dynaudio but I don't know anything about running active.

dlschevy
04-03-2009, 02:08 AM
all the audio system in my car has DLS speakers and amps, and really the sound is amazing......i heard the nobellium was amazing, except the price are experience......i don,t know what is your budget ¡

nightryderz05
04-03-2009, 12:39 PM
The prices woofersetc was offering wasn't that bad. If I get them off that website, it'll be either or, just don't know which one would be better. I plan on putting the speakers in a 09 bmw 335i. I know the front size is 4" but I can make the hole bigger, right?

cbrei1023
04-03-2009, 05:06 PM
DLS amps powering Dynaudio speakers. :)

You took the words right out of my mouth

Hoodlum007
04-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Dynaudio make abosolutely awesome sounding speakers for car and home audio.

00poop6x
04-09-2009, 05:43 PM
I currently have Hertz MLK165 in my vehicle. I kind of want to try something new, I heard a set of DLS Iridium's and the sound just blew me away. I was also told good things about Dynaudio. So I want ya'lls opinion on which I should try to get. I was looking at the DLS Neobellium (sp?) and the Dynaudio Esotec. They will be powered by an Arc Audio se2300 amp (330x2 at 4ohms).

Also anyone know if the DLS or Dynaudio off woofersetc is legit? I read on DLS's site that there is a knock-off version of their products.

With speakers like that, I'd not buy them online. Running into fakes, open boxes, and refurbs is not worth your chance.; in other words, not legit. Look for a local dealer!

00poop6x
04-09-2009, 05:51 PM
http://www.dls.se/econtent/files/369/authorized_dealer_list-_web_site_2007.pdf

http://dynaudio.com/us/dealers.php

:)

smalltown
04-09-2009, 09:34 PM
We're you giving the Hertz 330x2@4ohms as well? I've heard to really get them going you need 250wRMS up. I was planning on giving them 300wRMS from my Genesis Profile Ultra. Do you plan on selling the Hertz? If so, accepting trades?

Innovative:Cory
04-09-2009, 09:41 PM
Well here is your first problem......if the factory location for your car is only a 4" that pretty much kills Dynaudio for you.....yes they do make the md142 but it is a 3" dome midrange....recommended range of 700-7k....so no go there....Unless you want to step up to a 3-way setup with a midbass mounted in kick, door pod?

I run a full active Dyn setup in my Eclipse.....

I also run a full active Hybrid Audio Setup in my Lexus......

DLS is a pretty good company, but I have seen some of it be hit and miss.....stuff having to be fixed out of the box ( one reason I quit carrying their products)...

I run the Legatia 4 and I am very pleased with it, smooth midrange response and decent midbass...but mine are intsalled into my factory "tuned" nakamichi enclosures.....

Something to ponder....

OH!! and Hybrid speakers are kicking *** in all the comps....

nightryderz05
04-11-2009, 08:43 PM
We're you giving the Hertz 330x2@4ohms as well? I've heard to really get them going you need 250wRMS up. I was planning on giving them 300wRMS from my Genesis Profile Ultra. Do you plan on selling the Hertz? If so, accepting trades?

I've given them over 400 watts each side with no problem. I do plan on selling them but for Dynaudios or DLS components. Probably will sell these for $499 shipped. Barely had these for less than 6 months.

6spdcoupe
04-12-2009, 11:33 AM
Well here is your first problem......if the factory location for your car is only a 4" that pretty much kills Dynaudio for you.....yes they do make the md142 but it is a 3" dome midrange....recommended range of 700-7k....so no go there....Unless you want to step up to a 3-way setup with a midbass mounted in kick, door pod?

I run a full active Dyn setup in my Eclipse.....

I also run a full active Hybrid Audio Setup in my Lexus......

DLS is a pretty good company, but I have seen some of it be hit and miss.....stuff having to be fixed out of the box ( one reason I quit carrying their products)...

I run the Legatia 4 and I am very pleased with it, smooth midrange response and decent midbass...but mine are intsalled into my factory "tuned" nakamichi enclosures.....

Something to ponder....

OH!! and Hybrid speakers are kicking *** in all the comps....

How does this 'kill' Dynaudio ? He didnt say he was limited to Esotec, therefore leaving the Esotar 430 available.

Oddly I have yet to see a DOA from DLS, since it has only been 5 years or so, perhaps I should give it more time ?

nightryderz05
04-13-2009, 11:46 PM
How does this 'kill' Dynaudio ? He didnt say he was limited to Esotec, therefore leaving the Esotar 430 available.

Oddly I have yet to see a DOA from DLS, since it has only been 5 years or so, perhaps I should give it more time ?

I could use the Esotar 430 as a midbass?

6spdcoupe
04-14-2009, 12:10 AM
No, it is a dedicated midrange. Nothing you have listed so far has an offering in a 3.5" mid bass. You are likely not going to find any company with that.

To also answer your first question about woofersetc .. no theyre not legit for any of the above mentioned products as well as several others.

Flipx99
04-14-2009, 12:19 AM
With speakers like that, I'd not buy them online. Running into fakes, open boxes, and refurbs is not worth your chance.; in other words, not legit. Look for a local dealer!

this. A couple forum members are dealers. One in particular is a good guy but I don't know if he is allowed to ship those anymore.

Flipx99
04-14-2009, 12:19 AM
No, it is a dedicated midrange. Nothing you have listed so far has an offering in a 3.5" mid bass. You are likely not going to find any company with that.

To also answer your first question about woofersetc .. no theyre not legit for any of the above mentioned products as well as several others.

Well, there you are...

6spdcoupe
04-14-2009, 12:29 AM
this. A couple forum members are dealers. One in particular is a good guy but I don't know if he is allowed to ship those anymore.

I can just provided he doesnt have a local dealer.

Flipx99
04-14-2009, 12:32 AM
I can just provided he doesnt have a local dealer.

Cool....wasn't sure if the rules changed...I haven't has a system in over a year. Didn't want to promise something you couldn't deliver.

6spdcoupe
04-14-2009, 12:35 AM
Not a problem at all and I appreciate it !

Echo42987
04-14-2009, 12:47 AM
DLS amps powering Dynaudio speakers. :)

I agree.....Dynaudio all day long

nightryderz05
04-14-2009, 01:18 AM
Not a problem at all and I appreciate it !

I plan on getting a 335i BMW this summer. Would you recommend any components that would sound good powered by an Arc SE2300?

Thanks

nightryderz05
04-16-2009, 09:57 AM
??

6spdcoupe
04-16-2009, 01:34 PM
What would be your proposed budget ? Type of music ? Listening preferences ?

nightryderz05
04-16-2009, 06:20 PM
What would be your proposed budget ? Type of music ? Listening preferences ?

$1000 preferably, maybe alittle more if its worth it, like $1200? I listen to all kinds of music, Rap, R&B, Country, Trance, Rock, Alternative, ETC. I like something thats good to listen to while driving alone and cruising, then when i'm around people or cruising with people in the car, i'd like the setup to be loud and sound clear. I like the smooth laid back tweeter like off the DLS iridium and Dynaudio Esotec. I heard a set of Dynaudio Esotec 242 and was completely amazed!!!

Also since you can't change out the radio on the BMW 335i, what would be a good oem integration system? 3sixty.2? Audiocontrol LC6? Audison BitOne?

6spdcoupe
04-17-2009, 01:25 AM
You might be a bit better off giving me a call directly ..

732-572-1969

James Bang
04-17-2009, 01:34 AM
You might be a bit better off giving me a call directly ..

732-572-1969

try not to talk his ears off :p:

6spdcoupe
04-17-2009, 01:36 AM
try not to talk his ears off :p:

Ouch ! :crying:


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

carguy83
04-17-2009, 02:45 AM
i love my iridiums... :D

and yes, don have talked my ear off countless times. it's temporarily reattached to my head with velcro...in case it falls off again :p:

moh.vze.com
04-17-2009, 04:30 AM
I bought my pair of DLS MS6A a year ago off a guy known as "ENG" or something (an official dealer that was on that diyma forum or whatever it was) for $230.00 shipped.

I saw some good package deals that comes with an amp at
http://www.edesignaudio.com/index.php?cPath=1_23_128
check it out.


I don't recommend buying them without the package deal on there though.

nightryderz05
04-19-2009, 02:12 AM
How's the midbass on the Esotec's? Also I heard that these do not like to get loud? Is this true?

6spdcoupe
04-19-2009, 02:15 AM
Spot on accuracy and with authority.

Did the person that told you this actually ever even use/hear them ???

nightryderz05
04-19-2009, 02:31 AM
Spot on accuracy and with authority.

Did the person that told you this actually ever even use/hear them ???

Alot, he use to work for a high end shop. Installed Esotar's in Aston Martins, Ferrari's, upper class Benz, etc. Another guy told me that Morel's are the same, if I look at the basket, coils, surround, etc. except for the Tweeter basket he said, I think?

FoxPro5
04-19-2009, 12:43 PM
The DLS Noblium tweeter plays way better off axis than the Dyn MD102. It also feel it's more detailed up top (say 10khz +) but that's probably due to it's off-axis effects, then huh? Hmmmm...

The rest of Dyn's speakers never did anything special for me personaly and you can find just as good peformance shopping at Parts Express. Course you'd have to run an active system which costs more time and money, but you also SAVE a lot of money not buying over-hyped and over-priced componenet sets either.

Nice thing about Dyn is that the do everything in-house which means their consistancy and relaiblity is very high. They seem kind of stuck on poly cones though for some reason, but that's probably because they get the most consistant results out of them. Hmmmmmm...........

nightryderz05
04-23-2009, 11:21 PM
I decided that i'm going to go with the Dynaudio Esotec 342 3way component set. I got quoted $1300 from a local dealer. Does that sound about right? I can't seem to find out how much MSRP is.

Also does anyone have the Dynaudio Esotar 1200 12" subwoofer?
How's the SQ on it?
Does it get loud?
I forgot how much i got quoted on that subwoofer, I think it was $1500?

I currently have the Hertz ML3000.

adhumston
04-25-2009, 02:03 AM
If you're willing to go used, you can find much better deals. In fact, I may know of one in your area. PM sent.

JimJ
04-25-2009, 02:07 AM
Does it get loud?

Wrong question if you're looking at a Dynaudio.

nightryderz05
04-26-2009, 05:09 PM
When I mean loud, I mean raising the volume and not having distortion loud. Not the SPL loud. I like to sometimes drive with the music volume pretty loud.

USC_Gamecock
04-29-2009, 01:56 AM
I decided that i'm going to go with the Dynaudio Esotec 342 3way component set. I got quoted $1300 from a local dealer. Does that sound about right? I can't seem to find out how much MSRP is.

Also does anyone have the Dynaudio Esotar 1200 12" subwoofer?
How's the SQ on it?
Does it get loud?
I forgot how much i got quoted on that subwoofer, I think it was $1500?

I currently have the Hertz ML3000.

That Dynaudio sub is rated for 400W rms -- so be careful how much power you put on it.

But seriously dude, $1500 for that sub? I think that's a bit excessive -- I wouldn't buy it before having a listen to it in an actual car install (not a sound board).

nightryderz05
04-29-2009, 08:06 PM
That Dynaudio sub is rated for 400W rms -- so be careful how much power you put on it.

But seriously dude, $1500 for that sub? I think that's a bit excessive -- I wouldn't buy it before having a listen to it in an actual car install (not a sound board).

Maybe it's excessive because you wouldn't want to go through 3 or 4 of them :p:

USC_Gamecock
04-29-2009, 08:30 PM
Maybe it's excessive because you wouldn't want to go through 3 or 4 of them :p:

Give that sub 800W RMS minimum, and you'll go through 3 or 4 Dyns too :D

I am curious the hear how the Dyn sub sounds though, I've read some really good things about it.

I gotta admit though, I am pretty dang happy with my Ultimo though :D

6spdcoupe
04-30-2009, 09:46 AM
Give that sub 800W RMS minimum, and you'll go through 3 or 4 Dyns too :D

I am curious the hear how the Dyn sub sounds though, I've read some really good things about it.

I gotta admit though, I am pretty dang happy with my Ultimo though :D

I will have to disagree with this. :D

USC_Gamecock
04-30-2009, 08:37 PM
I will have to disagree with this. :D

Really? The sub can handle double it's rated RMS value that the manufacturer publishes? Is this overall with any type of music? Any volume level?

That's impressive. I don't doubt you -- but I do have to question the marketing guys at Dynaudio if this is true. I understand being safe, but cutting the RMS value in half of what it's actually capable of handling is also chasing away prospective customers.

Just my 2 cents.

nightryderz05
05-01-2009, 08:46 PM
So if I chose the Esotar 1200, will 1300 be too much power?

00poop6x
05-05-2009, 08:03 PM
There's someone in around Houston running full Esotar2. I love it. In the works of setting Esotec in my car.

00poop6x
05-05-2009, 08:05 PM
So if I chose the Esotar 1200, will 1300 be too much power?

The more headroom, the better with Dyn.

1,300 would be quite a bit continuously, but turn it down and you've got it.

xx24xx
05-06-2009, 01:55 AM
With speakers like that, I'd not buy them online. Running into fakes, open boxes, and refurbs is not worth your chance.; in other words, not legit. Look for a local dealer!

X2

You need to listen to them before you buy. There is a lot of BS and bogus info on audio forums. I've seen people claim to be dealers and dissing products when they probably read more magazines and come to conclusions. The decision is made by 2 things ... your left ear and your right ear. :D