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j.money
08-28-2003, 03:26 AM
$1000 budget.
5.25 for front. (thats all that will fit).
6.5 for rear.
amps to power them.
what to get???
thanks.

jer_stud56
08-28-2003, 09:52 AM
what do you mean 1000 to spend? If you want to spend 1k on speakers, what are you spending on subs??? :eek:

- pe@ce

b0mbrman
08-28-2003, 02:43 PM
$1000 budget.
5.25 for front. (thats all that will fit).
6.5 for rear.
amps to power them.
what to get???
thanks.If you're planning on spending $1000 on speakers, then spend $100 on kick panels so you can fit 6.5" speakers up front--something that will definitely open up your options.

Now, if you're like me and only want to spend $100 total, then it would make sense to limit yourself to 5.25" speakers :cool:

DARKHART
08-28-2003, 08:17 PM
$1000 budget.
5.25 for front. (thats all that will fit).
6.5 for rear.
amps to power them.
what to get???
thanks..
Go read my response to your original question over in the general discussion section. :D :D :D

j.money
08-28-2003, 08:38 PM
ok i got extra money for HU, subs and amp for the subs. im talkin bout $1000 for front, rear, and amps (excluding sub). i'm not lookin to do too much custom interior stuff. goin for 5.25s b/c that's what'll fit without me having to customize my door panel.

darkhart, thanks. i'm in a hurry right now but i'll check out your other post later on tonight after i have time to sit still. :D

b0mbrman
08-28-2003, 10:55 PM
ok i got extra money for HU, subs and amp for the subs. im talkin bout $1000 for front, rear, and amps (excluding sub). i'm not lookin to do too much custom interior stuff. goin for 5.25s b/c that's what'll fit without me having to customize my door panel.

darkhart, thanks. i'm in a hurry right now but i'll check out your other post later on tonight after i have time to sit still. :D
Isn't it easier to mount speakers in kicks because you don't have to feed the wires through the doors or even remove the door panel?

Gauntlet
08-28-2003, 11:03 PM
Isn't it easier to mount speakers in kicks because you don't have to feed the wires through the doors or even remove the door panel?

I suppose so....but it's really not that hard to run wire from the doors to the interior (provided there's no factory wiring). Plus, you'd have to build the kicks if you were to go that route....unless you want to be lazy and buy some Q-Forms.

j.money
08-29-2003, 02:28 AM
to be honest, i've dont even know whats involved with kick panels since i never considered going that route. how much would an audio shop charge if we were to go that route?

b0mbrman
08-29-2003, 03:13 PM
I suppose so....but it's really not that hard to run wire from the doors to the interior (provided there's no factory wiring). Plus, you'd have to build the kicks if you were to go that route....unless you want to be lazy and buy some Q-Forms.Be lazy :)
how much would an audio shop charge if we were to go that route?I was charged $100 for a carpeted MDF set with two driver holes each

Gauntlet
08-29-2003, 04:36 PM
to be honest, i've dont even know whats involved with kick panels since i never considered going that route. how much would an audio shop charge if we were to go that route?

http://forums.caraudio.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38665 - that should explain it. They're suprisingly easy to build, it just takes some time and dedication. If you can find a shop to build them for you, it would be in the $200-$300 price range, but if you chose to do it yourself it'd cost around $75-$100.

Oh yeah, don't be lazy!

j.money
08-30-2003, 02:55 PM
that was really helpful. thanks. i used to work with fiberglass and resin way back in the day to fix small dings on my surfboards. even at $100 to $300, i know my limits man...ie, i should have someone else do these kicks for me :D

now say i do put in kicks. what should i do with the speaker space in the door? fill em with higher quality 5.25s? nothing/disconnect whatevers in there? or what?

Gauntlet
08-30-2003, 04:30 PM
You could get a 3-way component system, putting the midbass driver and tweeter in the kicks, and the midrange driver in the doors....

j.money
08-30-2003, 05:10 PM
problem is that my doors are too shallow for most 6.5 drivers. otherwise i most likely would just put 6.5 components in the doors to begin with.

maybe i should just disconnect whatever is in there. and put midrange drivers in the rear, where i can fit 6.5 w/ no probs. or maybe i should i just throw some cheap 6.5 coaxials back there. what u guys think?

by the way, any drawbacks to using kick panels?

ss3079
08-30-2003, 11:27 PM
Only drawback I can think of is you may loose a tad bit of leg/foot room down there in some vehicles ... that and you might kick them the odd time getting in and out of your vehicle. A small price to pay for optimal imaging (in most cases).

1. 3 way set ... 6.5" and tweet in kick, 4" in doors. (if there's a set out there like it).
2. 2 way set ... 6.5" and tweet in kick, nothing in rear.
3. 2 way set ... 6.5" and tweet in kick, 6.5" 2 ways unamped in the rear.
4. 2 way set ... 6.5" and tweet in kick, 6.5" midbass w/ amp in the rear.

Just something to think about.

- Steve

Bavarian3
08-31-2003, 04:12 AM
focal utopia 3 way comes to mind ... :eek:

j.money
08-31-2003, 04:44 AM
ya im thinking #3 or 4.

utopias would be the dream setup for sure. theyd put me over my $1000 budget though. i still have to budget for custom kicks, amp, and (maybe) rear fill.

in reality, i would most likely fade everything up front 95% of the time but i guess im just weird like that & need to know that i *can* have rear fill if i choose to. i think i'll go with amped midbass drivers for the rear.

ok here's the problem restated (assuming $300 for custom kick panels):

$700 budget.
6.5 components up front.
6.5 midbass drivers for rear fill.
amps for front and rear speakers.
what to get???

Bavarian3
08-31-2003, 05:05 AM
http://www.purecaraudio.com/product.asp?0=209&1=267&3=1126 theres the 3 ways for 800 bucks.

heres the 2 ways for 500 bucks
http://www.purecaraudio.com/product.asp?0=209&1=267&3=1185

id get the 2 ways then u could just get seperate midbass drivers.

ss3079
08-31-2003, 01:48 PM
Kicks are less than $100 to do yourself, but I'll assume the $300 :)

6.5" Components ...
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/caraudio/product.asp?sku=11712
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/caraudio/product.asp?sku=11709

Dedicated Midbass ...
http://adireaudio.com/mobile_audio/drivers/koda_6.htm
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=297-632&DID=7

4 channel amp of your choice ...

Tons and tons of options, I'd go crazy trying to list all the possibilites :D

- Steve :crazy:

bumpin_blazer
08-31-2003, 03:33 PM
yo if you would be willing to go 5.25"s for your front fill or rear i have some canton 5.25"s for sale. they are identicle to MB Quart QSD's except with 1" silk dome tweet. canton is actually a sister company of mb quart and from what i hear make a lot of mb quarts parts.

adam

j.money
08-31-2003, 04:34 PM
thanks ill keep the cantons in mind but im liking the idea of custom kicks with 6.5s. i could def see it costing under $100 if i make the kicks myself but i def know my limits too... ha ha :D

im thinking it will be cheaper to get the utopias from the start instead of getting something "pretty good" and then upgrading to utopias later on.

i've got 2 stupid questions though:
1. if i go with utopia 3 way, its ok to put the midbass in rear?
2. the price ($500 for 2 way / $800 for 3 way) is just for one set of components right? meaning i'd have to spend $500x2 or $800x2 to get speakers on the left and right sides...right?

bumpin_blazer
08-31-2003, 04:37 PM
thanks ill keep the cantons in mind but im liking the idea of custom kicks with 6.5s. i could def see it costing under $100 if i make the kicks myself but i def know my limits too... ha ha :D

im thinking it will be cheaper to get the utopias from the start instead of getting something "pretty good" and then upgrading to utopias later on.

i've got 2 stupid questions though:
1. if i go with utopia 3 way, its ok to put the midbass in rear?
2. the price ($500 for 2 way / $800 for 3 way) is just for one set of components right? meaning i'd have to spend $500x2 or $800x2 to get speakers on the left and right sides...right?

it's for 1 full set of comps which means 2 midbass speakers and 2 tweeters. oh and the canton's when i compared them to the focal utopia line were just as good IMO but i hate that harsh of a tweet. the canton's retail for 500-600 in stores so they aren't exactly cheap. i guess just lemme know man if your interested i NEED to get rid of em and will sell them for cheap.

adam

j.money
09-01-2003, 05:22 PM
what are some good amps to power the 165w or 165w3s?