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redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:06 PM
already got money in paypal from 01 s 10 to fix amp


GREAT SELLER

would buy again from him, just confusion

99grandprixGT
02-15-2009, 08:07 PM
did you talk to him before making a thread?

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:07 PM
here is the original for sale thread http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=380273

10/10 my ***

bunkerking09
02-15-2009, 08:07 PM
hmmm, i thought he was a pretty legit guy

wasted ink
02-15-2009, 08:08 PM
did you talk to him before making a thread?


X2... If he comes out and fixes things and you didn't talk to him first, this thread is going to ruin his rep regardless of the outcome. Not defending anyone here, just stating.

andrew2944r
02-15-2009, 08:09 PM
i contact him and he says he will only pay for shipping to get it fixed which is 25 bucks out of the 200-250 they want to fix it

im assuming he did, lol

boltpride
02-15-2009, 08:09 PM
he said that he offered to pay shipping to get it repaired and thats it..

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:09 PM
yup his text said this
the amp had a problem and i fixed it and it worked fine when i sent it which is why i stated 10/10 functionality

he offered to only pay for the shipping to get it fixed and i had to pay for the rest

DBBOOM
02-15-2009, 08:10 PM
Need to see if he will work out something that you both accept. Can't we all just get along?

99grandprixGT
02-15-2009, 08:11 PM
i contact him and he says he will only pay for shipping to get it fixed which is 25 bucks out of the 200-250 they want to fix it

im assuming he did, lol

oh must of missed that part :crap:

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:11 PM
he was very very helpful before i received the amp with very fast shipping though... if that counts for anything :-(

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:11 PM
well i bought a used autotek mm4000 from 01 s 10

i received the amp and hook it up and the amp will not even come on...

soo i take it apart to realized there are not only one HUGE burn mark and one small one but that a small capacitor had came un-soldered and he had half way soldered it back on (will post pics later today) so i fix that and hook it back up and it comes of for a second then goes into protect...
then i take the amp BACK apart and realize that there are a few other spots that also came on soldered(pics later) so i fix those and hook it back up..

now it goes straight to protect, i contact him and he says he will only pay for shipping to get it fixed which is 25 bucks out of the 200-250 they want to fix it

so short story i paid 450 for an amp that just lights up in protect plus the 250 i have to fix it i could have got a sundown 3k!:verymad:

and i also have a very lonely omega 18" now :crap:

if everything happened exactly how you said do a charge back and if/when you get the $ back you willl be out the shipping back to him

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:12 PM
problem is he wouldn't take pay pal, money order only, but i felt fine with that because he had good refs

bball09124
02-15-2009, 08:12 PM
yup his text said this
the amp had a problem and i fixed it and it worked fine when i sent it which is why i stated 10/10 functionality

he offered to only pay for the shipping to get it fixed and i had to pay for the rest

So he said he'd pay for shipping? Just ship it back to him and ask him to refund your money.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:13 PM
well if i ship it back to him and he doesnt refund im out the amp and money completly

bball09124
02-15-2009, 08:15 PM
well if i ship it back to him and he doesnt refund im out the amp and money completly

See if he'll refund first?

bunkerking09
02-15-2009, 08:16 PM
well if i ship it back to him and he doesnt refund im out the amp and money completly

then we know he would really be a scammer.

no one didn't say it wasn't risky :laugh:

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:16 PM
considering the problems im happy i didnt work out a deal on it now

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:18 PM
haha well he already said he wouldnt refund me, that was his first response when i sent him a text saying it wasnt working and my quote was 200-250 from db-r
there is a local place called pyramid audio that i may check tomorrow

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:19 PM
i just want to be able to hear my new 18" omega :crying:

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:20 PM
haha well he already said he wouldnt refund me, that was his first response when i sent him a text saying it wasnt working and my quote was 200-250 from db-r
there is a local place called pyramid audio that i may check tomorrow

you paid with M/O you said right?

thevic24
02-15-2009, 08:20 PM
well hes viewing this thread right now, so lets get his side.

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:23 PM
First off, im not out to scam anyone at all. Im more than willing to help anyone out i can, i was more than helpful with the OP on the phone and texts, just the way i am. I stated the amp worked perfectly but had a slight whine, and it did when i disconnected it, boxed it up, and shipped it.

The OP and I talked on the phone about the amp, i stated about the capacitor or small piece that can unsoldered off the board. i stated that i DID re-solder it and it worked perfectly afterwards. It played fine aftwards as well.

when it arrived, i was told it did not work. ok, my first guess is that capacitor piece broke loose again. the OP said he would re-solder it. then he told me it WAS working. so apparently it works, then doesnt, then worked, now doesnt at all. how do i know it isnt messed up for good now?

Im fine with helping to get it repaired. the amp worked perfect when i shipped it out. and i know there is two sides to every story, and my side is the ****** end of the deal, i realize that. but how am i supposed to refund a working amp i sent out and get back something that could be permanently damaged.

bball09124
02-15-2009, 08:25 PM
the OP said he would re-solder it. then he told me it WAS working. so apparently it works, then doesnt, then worked, now doesnt at all. how do i know it isnt messed up for good now?

is this part true redodge786? if so, you're SOL in my opinion.

thevic24
02-15-2009, 08:26 PM
i want to see pics of the op's self-attempted repair. its not that hard to f up a board if your not that good at soldering

Corey J.
02-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Sounds like a ****** deal to me ! Just refund his money then .

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:28 PM
look man i have no problems with you personally, but i just paid 450 bucks that you even admitted had vibration damage AFTER i bought it, am i right?
and did you or did you not tell me there was a huge black spot on the board? you didnt until i asked you about it

mazdakid
02-15-2009, 08:29 PM
Was the buyer told about the repair that was done before he bought it?

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:30 PM
where it came un soldered was not ON the board it was from the wire that he put on to the capacitor, and i used to work for a local company that built l.e.d boards and did soldering

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:31 PM
Was the buyer told about the repair that was done before he bought it?

yes, on the phone.

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 08:31 PM
this kinda *****. its why i hate shipping stuff on line, espically amps, because **** can happen

how was the packaging?

and how do we know that the op didnt ruin it?

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:32 PM
i want to see pics of the op's self-attempted repair. its not that hard to f up a board if your not that good at soldering

so that would mean S10 could have fucked it up with his own repair
correct

refund
send the amp back

no one is any worse off just back to where they were at before the deal

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:32 PM
and no the amp only came on for about 30 seconds as stated then went back into protect, after i took it apart i noticed more stuff had broke off the board..
hold on ill take pics ftw

TurdFergueson2
02-15-2009, 08:32 PM
So you felt good shipping out an amp with a "slight whine" when you gave it a 10/10 rating as far as functionality? I didn't read the original for sale so I don't know what was stated. But for that kind of money I'm sure the op thought this amp had no issues. If you look around good enough you can find a brand new one for a little bit more. I would say you should refund him, but I would argue that when he attempted a fix he voided that.

Hope it gets worked out.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:33 PM
packaging was great

thevic24
02-15-2009, 08:34 PM
wow, this ***** for both parties. if at least, mabie you guys could split the cost of repair?

andrew2944r
02-15-2009, 08:34 PM
I would at least pay half of the repair and call it good just to be a nice guy...

OP your crazy for buying the amp in that condition anyways.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:34 PM
as soon as i got it before i EVER touched he i called him and told him it didnt work, he said to take it apart and check the solder and if that didnt fix he we would figure something out

thevic24
02-15-2009, 08:36 PM
as soon as i got it before i EVER touched he i called him and told him it didnt work, he said to take it apart and check the solder and if that didnt fix he we would figure something out

if you didnt touch it, how did you know it didnt work?

RAB
02-15-2009, 08:37 PM
dang theres a lot of scamming going on lately

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:37 PM
if the amp did not need repairs and i shipped it out and it did not work for the OP, i would offer a refund and pursue UPS for shipping damage. but the i did state the problem with the capacitor in the amp, and he did state that is what came unsoldered apparently and he resoldered it and it worked, then now it doesnt work.

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:38 PM
as soon as i got it before i EVER touched he i called him and told him it didnt work, he said to take it apart and check the solder and if that didnt fix he we would figure something out

so what are you saying? you told me it didnt work before you EVER touched it? :confused:

DUMPED
02-15-2009, 08:38 PM
So he said he'd pay for shipping? Just ship it back to him and ask him to refund your money.


good idea

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:41 PM
Send it back
get a refund
and buy bones 4kw

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:41 PM
Its just money anyway

MmatsDude
02-15-2009, 08:42 PM
I would just re-fund his money back, as a seller in my view, i would of being taking a risk fixin the amp by my self and then selling it, knowing it could mess up or perhaps a possibility that it could mess up again, so i would re-fund him, i wouldnt take the risk selling something like that in that state



Im fine with helping to get it repaired. the amp worked perfect when i shipped it out. and i know there is two sides to every story, and my side is the ****** end of the deal, i realize that. but how am i supposed to refund a working amp i sent out and get back something that could be permanently damaged.


I stated the amp worked perfectly but had a slight whine, and it did when i disconnected it, boxed it up, and shipped it.

Specially after this^ I would of being more suspicious of that. How do we know it wasn’t permanently damage before or after that?

I say re-fund him or pay for the fixing costs of that amp and shipping. I know I would.

MmatsDude
02-15-2009, 08:42 PM
Was the buyer told about the repair that was done before he bought it?

yes

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:43 PM
by touch it i meant re solder not install it, even after i re soldered it it still never work

and you never answered me about the burn marks on the board which i was never told about

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:43 PM
this kinda *****. its why i hate shipping stuff on line, espically amps, because **** can happen

how was the packaging?

and how do we know that the op didnt ruin it?

i made a vid of it working the day i packed it up and sent it out. then i stated about the soldering repair before any money was sent to me

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:44 PM
by touch it i meant re solder not install it, even after i re soldered it it still never work

and you never answered me about the burn marks on the board which i was never told about

are you saying the amp never worked for you? never?

DBBOOM
02-15-2009, 08:44 PM
wow, this ***** for both parties. if at least, mabie you guys could split the cost of repair?


I would at least pay half of the repair and call it good just to be a nice guy...



These both sound like a solution, since either the buyer or seller could be at fault for the work done on the amp.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:45 PM
i said the amp worked for about 30 seconds a few times, and all that was hooked to it was a 5.25 speaker cause i didnt not have my subs in yet, then amp went into protect and i took it back out to find that there was more stuff that had came un soldered

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:46 PM
Send it back
get a refund
and buy bones 4kw

would be nice but its being shipped tomorrow
it was won in a raffle on CACO

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:47 PM
up loading pictures of burns and capacitor to computer now

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:47 PM
would be nice but its being shipped tomorrow
it was won in a raffle on CACO

Did you get what you wanted for it?

anj46907
02-15-2009, 08:47 PM
just refund the mans money back. considering you claimed a repaired amp and it to be a 10/10, which leads me to believe you knew it had problems and passed it off as a 10

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:49 PM
I would've bought it in confidence.
Although I would be paying you a personal visit if I were the buyer.
Its just the type of personality I have

BushJ311
02-15-2009, 08:49 PM
I would say 1 party pays to ship amp and half of repairs and the other return shipping and other half of repairs.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:49 PM
yeah i wanted that memphis 4kw

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 08:49 PM
i said the amp worked for about 30 seconds a few times, and all that was hooked to it was a 5.25 speaker cause i didnt not have my subs in yet, then amp went into protect and i took it back out to find that there was more stuff that had came un soldered

Ok. i dont want to be labeled a scammer because im not, and i dont want you to be either because i honestly dont believe you are. im willing to paypal you $100 for half the repair costs

the issues with the re-soldering were stated before the amp was sold.

MmatsDude
02-15-2009, 08:49 PM
These both sound like a solution, since either the buyer or seller could be at fault for the work done on the amp.

I have to disagree. The seller was selling something that he fixed himself, probably not knowing it had a possibilty of messing up again. In this case, the amp didn't work when the seller hooked it up, prety obvious to me.

bones22
02-15-2009, 08:50 PM
Ok. i dont want to be labeled a scammer because im not, and i dont want you to be either because i honestly dont believe you are. im willing to paypal you $100 for half the repair costs

the issues with the re-soldering were stated before the amp was sold.

reasonable
/thread

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
i would take 400 back and ill even pay to ship it back to him and he still makes 50 bucks

gymfreak101
02-15-2009, 08:51 PM
if I was the seller I would fix this problem no matter how I feel about the situation, it will help you in the long run. This way you can clear your name and show people you are willing to go the extra mile to make things right. Then you when you need to sell something else you can and have this thread cleared because of right now being stubborn will only hurt you. And if you don't have the money to refund you need to get out of caraudio because you can't afford it to begin with.

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:53 PM
And if you don't have the money to refund you need to get out of caraudio because you can't afford it to begin with.

Thats awesome!

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 08:53 PM
IMO i wouldn't have bought an amp, if it had a whine noise. Because
there's no tellin what else could be wrong inside...

Not saying the seller did anything wrong because he said it had that problem...

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:54 PM
how about ill pay for half the repair cost and you give me my money back
so you send me 350 and ill mail your amp back

DBBOOM
02-15-2009, 08:55 PM
I have to disagree. The seller was selling something that he fixed himself, probably not knowing it had a possibilty of messing up again. In this case, the amp didn't work when the seller hooked it up, prety obvious to me.

But when the buyer decided to work on the amp, he could have done damage also. That is where the problem with fault arose IMO. Should have left the amp alone and asked for a refund.

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:56 PM
I'm glad the only thing I've bought so far was some 1/0 wire

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:56 PM
how about ill pay for half the repair cost and you give me my money back
so you send me 350 and ill mail your amp back

Thats not a bad deal for either of you

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:57 PM
i asked for a refund before i ever worked on the amp, right after i hooked it up and realized it didnt work i called him

JBerger
02-15-2009, 08:57 PM
maybe throw in a reach around

anj46907
02-15-2009, 08:57 PM
I'm glad the only thing I've bought so far was some 1/0 wire

yeah its kinda hard to get f*ed over on that

redodge786
02-15-2009, 08:58 PM
ill loose the 100 and learn my lesson and buy a new amp, unless 01 s 10 wants to make me a deal on his saz hehe

dirtyg
02-15-2009, 08:59 PM
seller i think you should refund because you wasnt fully truthfull with your ad 10/10 and you already did work on it and failed to mention this in your ad for that alone i give you wrong as any problems with the amp should have been made clear to any prospective buyers this is the same problem i had with a purchace said it was good when i got it would not power up told sell he was like oh yeah the amp was droped thats why 1 of the feet is damaged and a end cap is cracked and he would not help in any way with repair so i was stuck with a $600.00+ 75% of value paid to customs for a amp thats nothing more than decoration that cost me $1100 in hand

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 08:59 PM
ill loose the 100 and learn my lesson and buy a new amp, unless 01 s 10 wants to make me a deal on his saz hehe

There you go, thats what im talkin bout haha

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:00 PM
how about ill pay for half the repair cost and you give me my money back
so you send me 350 and ill mail your amp back

and you are out app. $140 with nothing to show for it. lol wow, what a deal.

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:00 PM
i made a vid of it working the day i packed it up and sent it out. then i stated about the soldering repair before any money was sent to me

This is what i will do from here on out...

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:00 PM
ill loose the 100 and learn my lesson and buy a new amp, unless 01 s 10 wants to make me a deal on his saz hehe

lol about the saz. im trying to figure something out man. im seriously not out to take advantage of anyone. Im willing to pay for half the repair costs, $100

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:02 PM
i did not pack up a non-working amp and ship it to someone. it worked in my possession, i stated the repair that had been done to it by myself before any money was exchanged.

05fronty
02-15-2009, 09:02 PM
i still want to see pics

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:03 PM
im trying to figure out how to get them off my iphone, **** itunes ftl

BushJ311
02-15-2009, 09:03 PM
I'm glad the only thing I've bought so far was some 1/0 wire

that was from me. :D


yeah its kinda hard to get f*ed over on that

unless the seller does not send.


i still want to see pics

x2

atlbraves
02-15-2009, 09:05 PM
pics??????????

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:06 PM
if I was the seller I would fix this problem no matter how I feel about the situation, it will help you in the long run. This way you can clear your name and show people you are willing to go the extra mile to make things right. Then you when you need to sell something else you can and have this thread cleared because of right now being stubborn will only hurt you. And if you don't have the money to refund you need to get out of caraudio because you can't afford it to begin with.

just because someone doesnt have a spare 500 laying around just in case doesnt mean they cant afford it homie, thats a bit harsh


i would take 400 back and ill even pay to ship it back to him and he still makes 50 bucks

id never do that. ,akes you look super guilty


how about ill pay for half the repair cost and you give me my money back
so you send me 350 and ill mail your amp back


this is even worse!!!

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:07 PM
that was from me. :D



unless the seller does not send.



x2

I'm glad you reminded me. I forgot who it was and which forum it was.
It was on SSA right?

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:08 PM
I might pay half of the repair, if it were my case, but i would (as a buyer) never outright offer to put a dime to something that i didnt break....

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:09 PM
im not using this as an excuse against the OP, but he did tell me he had to be evicted soon just after he bought the amp, and i had a bad feeling about that because he's going to need to find a new place to live and that *****. again, not using that as an excuse for the OP wanting his money back. I feel the amp will not come back to me in the shape i sent it obviously, because its NOT working now. as it did when i sent it.

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:09 PM
lots of viewers...

andrew2944r
02-15-2009, 09:09 PM
Good lord, Half the repair, send it to dB-R for a quality repair and go about your business...

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:10 PM
im not using this as an excuse against the OP, but he did tell me he had to be evicted soon just after he bought the amp, and i had a bad feeling about that because he's going to need to find a new place. again, not using that as an excuse for the OP wanting his money back. I feel the amp will not come back to me in the shape i sent it obviously, because its NOT working now. as it did when i sent it.
thats why it scares me sending stuff online, because you never know

dropped_mazda
02-15-2009, 09:10 PM
wow 6 pages of ill post PICS and no pics

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:11 PM
well he has made it apparent that he will not do a full refund and i really dont want to have a amp that has been repaired multiple times, he also told me AFTER i bought it that amprepaircenter.com repaired one of the channels

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:11 PM
Good lord, Half the repair, send it to dB-R for a quality repair and go about your business...

Seller offered it....well close to it

Ignatowski
02-15-2009, 09:11 PM
First off, im not out to scam anyone at all. Im more than willing to help anyone out i can, i was more than helpful with the OP on the phone and texts, just the way i am. I stated the amp worked perfectly but had a slight whine, and it did when i disconnected it, boxed it up, and shipped it.

The OP and I talked on the phone about the amp, i stated about the capacitor or small piece that can unsoldered off the board. i stated that i DID re-solder it and it worked perfectly afterwards. It played fine aftwards as well.

when it arrived, i was told it did not work. ok, my first guess is that capacitor piece broke loose again. the OP said he would re-solder it. then he told me it WAS working. so apparently it works, then doesnt, then worked, now doesnt at all. how do i know it isnt messed up for good now?

Im fine with helping to get it repaired. the amp worked perfect when i shipped it out. and i know there is two sides to every story, and my side is the ****** end of the deal, i realize that. but how am i supposed to refund a working amp i sent out and get back something that could be permanently damaged.

you owe him his money back......in full.....your a poor seller
and should be banned from the forsale section.....

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:12 PM
Sound like a lemon amp to me

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:12 PM
im not using this as an excuse against the OP, but he did tell me he had to be evicted soon just after he bought the amp, and i had a bad feeling about that because he's going to need to find a new place to live and that *****. again, not using that as an excuse for the OP wanting his money back. I feel the amp will not come back to me in the shape i sent it obviously, because its NOT working now. as it did when i sent it.

evicted? i NEVER said that

now im pissed:furious:

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 09:12 PM
This ***** all the way around for both of them

BushJ311
02-15-2009, 09:13 PM
I'm glad you reminded me. I forgot who it was and which forum it was.
It was on SSA right?

That is Correct


I might pay half of the repair, if it were my case, but i would (as a buyer) never outright offer to put a dime to something that i didnt break....

Agree

BushJ311
02-15-2009, 09:13 PM
evicted? i NEVER said that

now im pissed:furious:

:popcorn:

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:14 PM
Anytime anything has 3 problems within its life, I consider it a lemon

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:15 PM
evicted? i NEVER said that

now im pissed:furious:

you told me you had to move! evicted, what ever. what did you mean?

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:16 PM
my LEASE was up, i moved to a new house, not EVICTED!

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:17 PM
why would i spend 450 on a amp plus the 420 on the omega i bought if i was being evicted?

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:17 PM
Round 1

FIGHT!

Which one of you is Sub Zero and which one is Scorpion?

05fronty
02-15-2009, 09:17 PM
op can you post pics yet? i want to see problems with amp.

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:17 PM
my LEASE was up, i moved to a new house, not EVICTED!

sorry, you said you had to move. you didnt state any reasons or whatever which is wasnt my business anyways thats why i left it at that. sorry again for saying you were getting evicted. my perception was that you needed money to move and regretted spending that much money

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:17 PM
why would i spend 450 on a amp plus the 420 on the omega i bought if i was being evicted?

Let alone drive that **** red dodge

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 09:18 PM
op can you post pics yet? i want to see problems with amp.

me 2

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:19 PM
why would i spend 450 on a amp plus the 420 on the omega i bought if i was being evicted?

well you were selling your JL equipment which equaled what you paid for the autotek and the omega

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:19 PM
I wanna see some blood!

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:19 PM
Not really

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:19 PM
Lets be friends

anj46907
02-15-2009, 09:20 PM
Round 1

FIGHT!

Which one of you is Sub Zero and which one is Scorpion?

FINISH HIM!

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:21 PM
well if anyone can tell me how to get pictures off a iphone ill post right away, and my reason for this is not cause im hurting or needing the money its cause i know whats right

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:21 PM
Lets be friends

please stop. You are the reason these threads get locked before a resolution.

first and only warning BTW.

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 09:23 PM
well if anyone can tell me how to get pictures off a iphone ill post right away, and my reason for this is not cause im hurting or needing the money its cause i know whats right

Send them to your email then post them off there

Random1010
02-15-2009, 09:23 PM
well if anyone can tell me how to get pictures off a iphone ill post right away, and my reason for this is not cause im hurting or needing the money its cause i know whats right

email em to me and ill post em

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:23 PM
please stop. You are the reason these threads get locked before a resolution.

first and only warning BTW.

Sorry,
Sometimes I just get out of hand
Just tell me to STFU

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:23 PM
im willing to pay for half the repair costs, which will be $100 by the OP's estimate from amprepaircenter.

i cannot provide a refund and get back a non-working amp, when i sent a working amp and stated the issue with the capacitor and myself re-soldering it.

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:24 PM
Lets be friends

you need to stop posting in this thread

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:26 PM
you need to stop posting in this thread

tapout already yelled at me

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:26 PM
Sorry,
Sometimes I just get out of hand
Just tell me to STFU

STFU ;)

Its all good. Thanks

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:26 PM
terra is going to post the picts for me i think
im sending them now

snoopdan
02-15-2009, 09:28 PM
im willing to pay for half the repair costs, which will be $100 by the OP's estimate from amprepaircenter.

you need to get an estimate from db-r. Amprepaircenter are known fuckups to start with.

tacovic
02-15-2009, 09:28 PM
im willing to pay for half the repair costs, which will be $100 by the OP's estimate from amprepaircenter.

i cannot provide a refund and get back a non-working amp, when i sent a working amp and stated the issue with the capacitor and myself re-soldering it.

the buyer did not get what was described. it doesnt matter what the situation is, he didnt get what he paid for. he shouldnt have to pay a dime IMO and should get a full refund.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:29 PM
full refund would be first choice obviously, just wait till yall see the pictures

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:30 PM
you need to get an estimate from db-r. Amprepaircenter are known fuckups to start with.

agreed. DB-r is 200- 250. call it 125 plus shipping one way.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:30 PM
i did talk to db-r it was 200-250 plus shipping as long as all the mosfets are good

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:32 PM
ok. ive never dealt with db-r. but if thats a better place to get it fixed, ill send you $150.

snoopdan
02-15-2009, 09:33 PM
full refund would be first choice obviously, just wait till yall see the pictures

IMO once you opened up that amp when you realized it wasn't working properly, you forfitted your chance to get a full refund.

iamamp3pimp
02-15-2009, 09:35 PM
IMO once you opened up that amp when you realized it wasn't working properly, you forfitted your chance to get a full refund.

x2

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:35 PM
ok. ive never dealt with db-r. but if thats a better place to get it fixed, ill send you $150.

seems fair.

OP, that amp will be a beast when returned to you with a small warranty as well.

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 09:35 PM
$150 is more than reasonable to get it fixed, after the fix i did was described to the OP before the amp was sold. its not like im ducking and avoiding everyone. i want to get this settled aswell. ive never had any problems with any transaction

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 09:35 PM
IMO once you opened up that amp when you realized it wasn't working properly, you forfitted your chance to get a full refund.

Thats what I was thinking, but didnt want to say anything

RidnClean
02-15-2009, 09:37 PM
just read the whole thread.

could go both ways, but really the OG owner of MM could have described his details a lil better but instead he hid them until new owner had to find out.

now dodge could have just shipped it back instead of playin games with it.

tacovic
02-15-2009, 09:37 PM
Thats what I was thinking, but didnt want to say anything

but the OP told him to.

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:38 PM
but the OP told him to.

original seller, not OP.;)

MmatsDude
02-15-2009, 09:41 PM
But when the buyer decided to work on the amp, he could have done damage also. That is where the problem with fault arose IMO. Should have left the amp alone and asked for a refund.

The problem or the sign/symptom of the amps problem arose when the seller heard a whine on the amp before shipping, wich obviously tells me that something was still wrong with the amp, then the seller gets it and it doesnt work before even the buyer opens it up to solder the loosen part? That should be enough claim for a full re - fund even if the buyer tried to fix the amp it was already fuc'cked, or maybe the amp through shipping was hit? or was handle rough and the solder piece got loose? either way, OP has a right for a full refund in my view.

The seller should of payed attention to that whine and made sure everything was fine, should of done more testing on the amp etc..

Z-Ro
02-15-2009, 09:45 PM
how can you list a item at 10/10 with all those problems? its obvious this guy isnt going to give you your money back, take the $150 and let it be a lesson learned.

Andrizzle
02-15-2009, 09:46 PM
OP knew he was receiving a sketchy amp... But he was told it would work 100% (10/10)

Now, if you were recieving a 10/10 function amp with past problems and the Original owner told you it might have a part that came loose via shipping - wouldn't YOU open it too???

Especially with the OP's background of soldering like he said - it would have been no problem if it was just something loose.

Random1010
02-15-2009, 09:47 PM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/reppinseattle206/photo-1-1.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/reppinseattle206/photo-2.jpg
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg114/reppinseattle206/photo-1.jpg

Kicker Guy
02-15-2009, 09:47 PM
how can you list a item at 10/10 with all those problems? its obvious this guy isnt going to give you your money back, take the $150 and let it be a lesson learned.

I agree 100%

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:49 PM
Looks repairable to me

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:49 PM
just sent terra about 6 pictures of burn spots and solders that i had to fix, maybe i shouldnt have soldered it but figured i would give this guy a chance and just fix it if it was something small that i knew i could do from past job
i am now a a/c technician so i am a hands on kinda guy and have hands on skills

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:50 PM
there are two burn spots on either side of the amp

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 09:50 PM
:eek:

tapout
02-15-2009, 09:51 PM
dodge, just accept the 150 and get it repaired. Amp is a beast and you will be happy with it once it is right.

redodge786
02-15-2009, 09:52 PM
also i was NEVER told about ANY burn spots

forbidden
02-15-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm not going to read the whole thread. Here is my take from a business perspective.

1) Is the seller a qualified service technician?
2) Did the seller send an item out that had been improperly repaired?
3) A noise problem is not a 10/10 for functionality, the buyer should have backed out at this point.
4) The buyer bought the problems with the product, you get what you pay for when you buy used.
5) Did the seller provide a warranty on his used and repaired item? No, buyer should have backed out.
6) The seller is going to lose all credibility in future sales over this thread, what amount of lost business is it going to come out of this vs. refunding the seller, therefor making the customer happy.

My take is simple, the amp had a problem when shipped, it had a unsatisfactory repair when shipped. Could the buyer have damaged it when it was installed, if the unsatisfactory repair was to blame, yes. Would it have happened if the amp had been repaired professionally with a guarantee of repair on it, chances are no.

The seller, if he wants to gain the credibility back that he is losing at a rather rapid pace, should refund the buyer in full. The buyer should pay for the return shipping. Both parties are happy, the seller can save face and continue forward with good references. A good reference can be found in a situation like this, it is more important to do the right thing when something goes wrong than it is when things are always going right. My bet is that the buyer would tell people that the seller really pulled through for him and he would recommend him to others. Seller, the ball is in your court. If you think that the $ you have from the sale of this one amp is worth more than your reputation and ability to do future business, so be it.

JBerger
02-15-2009, 09:55 PM
dodge, just accept the 150 and get it repaired. Amp is a beast and you will be happy with it once it is right.

100% agree
Its a he11 of an amp
Worth the money you'll have invested

MmatsDude
02-15-2009, 09:57 PM
I'm not going to read the whole thread. Here is my take from a business perspective.

1) Is the seller a qualified service technician?
2) Did the seller send an item out that had been improperly repaired?
3) A noise problem is not a 10/10 for functionality, the buyer should have backed out at this point.
4) The buyer bought the problems with the product, you get what you pay for when you buy used.
5) Did the seller provide a warranty on his used and repaired item? No, buyer should have backed out.
6) The seller is going to lose all credibility in future sales over this thread, what amount of lost business is it going to come out of this vs. refunding the seller, therefor making the customer happy.

My take is simple, the amp had a problem when shipped, it had a unsatisfactory repair when shipped. Could the buyer have damaged it when it was installed, if the unsatisfactory repair was to blame, yes. Would it have happened if the amp had been repaired professionally with a guarantee of repair on it, chances are no.

The seller, if he wants to gain the credibility back that he is losing at a rather rapid pace, should refund the buyer in full. The buyer should pay for the return shipping. Both parties are happy, the seller can save face and continue forward with good references. A good reference can be found in a situation like this, it is more important to do the right thing when something goes wrong than it is when things are always going right. My bet is that the buyer would tell people that the seller really pulled through for him and he would recommend him to others. Seller, the ball is in your court. If you think that the $ you have from the sale of this one amp is worth more than your reputation and ability to do future business, so be it.


X2

redodge786
02-15-2009, 10:01 PM
01 s 10 did the amp have those burn spots when shipped? cause like i said you never told me about that

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 10:03 PM
Ok, to help out both situations, Im willing to pay for ALL repairs upto $250. yes that means i sold a mm4000 for $200. it is what it is. the amp is not satisfactory to the OP, I will paypal or m/o him $250 for the amp to be repaired. i hope we can agree on this and put this past us. like i said, im not a scammer, the OP is not a scammer. we have talked on the phone many times to chat about systems in general. i want to make this right for both parties. im sure we both have better things to do than argue right now. OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

05fronty
02-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Ok, to help out both situations, Im willing to pay for ALL repairs upto $250. yes that means i sold a mm4000 for $200. it is what it is. the amp is not satisfactory to the OP, I will paypal or m/o him $250 for the amp to be repaired. i hope we can agree on this and put this past us. like i said, im not a scammer, the OP is not a scammer. we have talked on the phone many times to chat about systems in general. i want to make this right for both parties. im sure we both have better things to do than argue right now. OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

do this and get it fixed

NightDrifter05
02-15-2009, 10:05 PM
I'm not going to read the whole thread. Here is my take from a business perspective.

1) Is the seller a qualified service technician?
2) Did the seller send an item out that had been improperly repaired?
3) A noise problem is not a 10/10 for functionality, the buyer should have backed out at this point.
4) The buyer bought the problems with the product, you get what you pay for when you buy used.
5) Did the seller provide a warranty on his used and repaired item? No, buyer should have backed out.
6) The seller is going to lose all credibility in future sales over this thread, what amount of lost business is it going to come out of this vs. refunding the seller, therefor making the customer happy.

My take is simple, the amp had a problem when shipped, it had a unsatisfactory repair when shipped. Could the buyer have damaged it when it was installed, if the unsatisfactory repair was to blame, yes. Would it have happened if the amp had been repaired professionally with a guarantee of repair on it, chances are no.

The seller, if he wants to gain the credibility back that he is losing at a rather rapid pace, should refund the buyer in full. The buyer should pay for the return shipping. Both parties are happy, the seller can save face and continue forward with good references. A good reference can be found in a situation like this, it is more important to do the right thing when something goes wrong than it is when things are always going right. My bet is that the buyer would tell people that the seller really pulled through for him and he would recommend him to others. Seller, the ball is in your court. If you think that the $ you have from the sale of this one amp is worth more than your reputation and ability to do future business, so be it.

That sounds good and all but I wouldn't give a full refund on a amp that worked with me (other then the whine of course) but when it got to the customer didn't work and he attempted a self repair and then have it die completely. Whose to say the repair attempted by the buyer isn't what finished off the amp? The only way I would do a refund is if the buyer agreed to take off 100-150 for a repair since there really is no way to know his attempt at a repair didn't cause more problem's. Which I believe that was offered in the thread earlier. I would much rather pay for half the repair and shipping one way which has also been offered. He should have never tried to repair it himself and should have just told the seller he wanted a full refund.

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 10:06 PM
Ok, to help out both situations, Im willing to pay for ALL repairs upto $250. yes that means i sold a mm4000 for $200. it is what it is. the amp is not satisfactory to the OP, I will paypal or m/o him $250 for the amp to be repaired. i hope we can agree on this and put this past us. like i said, im not a scammer, the OP is not a scammer. we have talked on the phone many times to chat about systems in general. i want to make this right for both parties. im sure we both have better things to do than argue right now. OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

I would buy from you now for sure, I hope he takes
your offer

redodge786
02-15-2009, 10:06 PM
deal
close thread

Z-Ro
02-15-2009, 10:07 PM
Ok, to help out both situations, Im willing to pay for ALL repairs upto $250. yes that means i sold a mm4000 for $200. it is what it is. the amp is not satisfactory to the OP, I will paypal or m/o him $250 for the amp to be repaired. i hope we can agree on this and put this past us. like i said, im not a scammer, the OP is not a scammer. we have talked on the phone many times to chat about systems in general. i want to make this right for both parties. im sure we both have better things to do than argue right now. OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

thats legit

tapout
02-15-2009, 10:07 PM
OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

he'll accept. Or I'll bash his head in.:p:

Jeepjones85
02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
thats legit

agreed

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
I would buy from you now for sure, I hope he takes
your offer

thanks, like ive said many times, im not out to scam or fck over anyone, **** i know 5 or 10 people of this forum in person lol, im not about to lose those friendships and be known as a "scammer" over $450 lol. ive never had to deal with anything like this, but im trying to make it right for both parties.

anj46907
02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
he'll accept. Or I'll bash his head in.:p:

:wow: i think he is surrriouss

connersdad19
02-15-2009, 10:08 PM
Ok, to help out both situations, Im willing to pay for ALL repairs upto $250. yes that means i sold a mm4000 for $200. it is what it is. the amp is not satisfactory to the OP, I will paypal or m/o him $250 for the amp to be repaired. i hope we can agree on this and put this past us. like i said, im not a scammer, the OP is not a scammer. we have talked on the phone many times to chat about systems in general. i want to make this right for both parties. im sure we both have better things to do than argue right now. OP, let me know if you'll accept this offer.

good deal glad to see this.

BushJ311
02-15-2009, 10:09 PM
Glad to see this get worked out. Good job guys.
Who else thinks this should be deleted now?

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 10:10 PM
sorry for all the confusion and ****. OP, do you want me to call you? or PM me your paypal? or m/o? its up to you.

anj46907
02-15-2009, 10:11 PM
Glad to see this get worked out. Good job guys.
Who else thinks this should be deleted now?

x2

redodge786
02-15-2009, 10:11 PM
i edited my first post, great seller to do that
money order is fine with me since i know you dont like paypal
or you can still send me that saz lol

redodge786
02-15-2009, 10:12 PM
please delete this and AS SOON as i get the money order i will post a POSITIVE thread about 01 s 10

tacovic
02-15-2009, 10:14 PM
kudos to s10 for making this right.

01 S 10
02-15-2009, 10:14 PM
i edited my first post, great seller to do that
money order is fine with me since i know you dont like paypal
or you can still send me that saz lol

i can send paypal tonight, i dont have the cash out of the bank, but i have it in my account. or the post office is open tuesday, so if you want to wait a week i can get a m/o on tuesday

paypal is faster, but its up to you. i just want to clear our names. we can still be friendz :veryhapp: lol

anj46907
02-15-2009, 10:16 PM
i can send paypal tonight, i dont have the cash out of the bank, but i have it in my account. or the post office is open tuesday, so if you want to wait a week i can get a m/o on tuesday

paypal is faster, but its up to you. i just want to clear our names. we can still be friendz :veryhapp: lol

aww aint that cute

redodge786
02-15-2009, 10:17 PM
ill call you here in a bit after i eat
no hard feelings at all

RidnClean
02-15-2009, 10:22 PM
2 months without bumpin my omega :crap:

i'm after a MM also :)

redodge786
02-15-2009, 11:00 PM
already recieved money, great seller, please please delete this thread though

RidnClean
02-15-2009, 11:06 PM
A- your slow.
B- he's right.

tapout
02-15-2009, 11:10 PM
...

tapout
02-15-2009, 11:14 PM
Not as fun as randomly posting. glad it all worked out:)

I remembered who you were and realized thats not your style.:p:

iamamp3pimp
02-16-2009, 01:44 AM
i wouldnt want this deleted if i were either one of you, but have the title changed to "Resolved" so people can see how you took care of this

my .02

redodge786
02-16-2009, 11:42 AM
how do you change a title?

iamamp3pimp
02-16-2009, 11:45 AM
pm a mod w the link to the thread, and ask him to change it to whatever you wanted to have it changed too..

duece212
02-16-2009, 11:53 AM
I would have it deleted, people will read the first few pages and form an opinion without reading the entire thread, even if you change the title

redodge786
02-16-2009, 11:58 AM
yeah that's my plan, but im a noob, who's a mod on here?

iamamp3pimp
02-16-2009, 01:04 PM
randy savage has always helped me

Johnny Drama