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302yota
02-06-2009, 10:35 AM
what is the best glue to use... i heard titebond III works the best....also what screws do yall use?

orangecounty1
02-06-2009, 10:36 AM
titebond II is fine.

shakinghorizons
02-06-2009, 10:37 AM
titebond II.

KB777
02-06-2009, 10:40 AM
elmers stick glue (the kind that comes out like lipstick) :laugh: You can steal some from any 2nd grader on your block. :D

jco1385
02-06-2009, 10:43 AM
http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc265/jco1385/I3010006.jpg

mlstrass
02-06-2009, 11:23 AM
I was wondering also, so I'm glad you asked since this have never been asked before...

DanM7890
02-06-2009, 11:29 AM
other then glueing the box together do you also use this to bead the corners or do you use a silicone

jco1385
02-06-2009, 11:32 AM
i used liquid nails i think. just to seal up any small imperfections.

mlstrass
02-06-2009, 11:35 AM
liquid nails ***** balls. Do NOT waste your $$$ on it. Silicone or caulk to seal up the inner seams...

jco1385
02-06-2009, 11:37 AM
free > paying for those :fyi:

jonny101abc
02-07-2009, 12:06 AM
As others have said, Titebond II or III

Titebond II is Awesome !!!

Pyro_By_Nature
02-07-2009, 12:09 AM
liquid nails ***** balls. Do NOT waste your $$$ on it. Silicone or caulk to seal up the inner seams...

Only downfalls I've found to using liquid nails over silicone is it stinks a little bit more, and can make a huge mess. Good luck getting that **** off clothes, skin, anything. Other than that I don't see how it "***** ballz".

I always use titebond.

aturcotte127317
02-07-2009, 12:26 AM
how about gorilla glue wood glue? i just bought some today....??? might return it for tightbond if it is worth it

aturcotte127317
02-07-2009, 12:37 AM
????

PaulThompson229
02-07-2009, 12:40 AM
how about gorilla glue wood glue? i just bought some today....??? might return it for tightbond if it is worth it

Nope, Titebond II all the way, the gorilla glue expands too much for me

aturcotte127317
02-07-2009, 12:47 AM
Nope, Titebond II all the way, the gorilla glue expands too much for me

hm... did it hold good though?? (the GG)

The expansion could come it handy for minor imperfect{SP} cuts... :crap:

PaulThompson229
02-07-2009, 12:51 AM
hm... did it hold good though?? (the GG)

The expansion could come it handy for minor imperfect{SP} cuts... :crap:

I held fine, but it was a small, low powered box for a single 10" so most anything probably would have worked, and the silicone bead on the inner seams after assembly is best for airleaks from imperfections.

Tightbond and Elmers form a chemical bond with the wood creating a joint that is stronger than the wood itself, I am unsure if Gorilla Glue does this.

aturcotte127317
02-07-2009, 12:56 AM
I held fine, but it was a small, low powered box for a single 10" so most anything probably would have worked, and the silicone bead on the inner seams after assembly is best for airleaks from imperfections.

Tightbond and Elmers form a chemical bond with the wood creating a joint that is stronger than the wood itself, I am unsure if Gorilla Glue does this.

.... now i am worried.... :(
i might drive back to home depot and switch it out...

mlstrass
02-07-2009, 01:19 AM
Only downfalls I've found to using liquid nails over silicone is it stinks a little bit more, and can make a huge mess. Good luck getting that **** off clothes, skin, anything. Other than that I don't see how it "***** ballz".

I always use titebond.

I did a wall last year and used LN and screws to attach 2x4's on the outside for bracing. Used a ton of that ****. 4 weeks later when I took it apart the 2x4's fell off when I removed the screws :furious:

Gorilla Glue also *****. I've broken apart 3 enclosures I built using that stuff and all broke at the glue joint without delaminating the MDF.

TBII or Elmer's Pro is all I use now ;)

ngsm13
02-07-2009, 01:21 AM
Titebond II

No need for titebond III, since you don't need it to be waterproof. Gorilla glue is a pain in the *** for boxes, and liquid nails ***** my nuts off.

:fyi:

nG

PaulThompson229
02-07-2009, 01:24 AM
Titebond II

No need for titebond III, since you don't need it to be waterproof.
nG



Thanks for that, I have always wondered what the difference was between II and III since I've never used III.

Pyro_By_Nature
02-07-2009, 01:25 AM
I did a wall last year and used LN and screws to attach 2x4's on the outside for bracing. Used a ton of that ****. 4 weeks later when I took it apart the 2x4's fell off when I removed the screws :furious:

Gorilla Glue also *****. I've broken apart 3 enclosures I built using that stuff and all broke at the glue joint without delaminating the MDF.

TBII or Elmer's Pro is all I use now ;)


Actually now that you mention it, I know what you're saying. Vibration can cause dried up liquid nails to just crack. I learned that on a non-car audio related project.

As a sealant it shouldn't be too much of a problem but I'd never use it to hold a box together. I still prefer clear silicone though.

As said before, titebond = chemical bond, the gorilla glue does not form one, just a physical bond.

audiolife
02-07-2009, 01:34 AM
Nope, Titebond II all the way, the gorilla glue expands too much for me

lol expands? it freakin swells LOL I tried fixxing a wood clock that fell off a wall with it and it left a gap so wide i hade to use wood filler on it then use a wood stain marker to cover that. Stuff is strong though

Pioneer~Saturn
02-07-2009, 01:35 AM
Titebond II all the way :)

audiolife
02-07-2009, 01:38 AM
Actually now that you mention it, I know what you're saying. Vibration can cause dried up liquid nails to just crack. I learned that on a non-car audio related project.

As a sealant it shouldn't be too much of a problem but I'd never use it to hold a box together. I still prefer clear silicone though.

As said before, titebond = chemical bond, the gorilla glue does not form one, just a physical bond.

I used liquid nails silicon and fiberglass to hold my built to box together (back of my box is the cab) and it is over 4 years old. no leaks or cracks

Pioneer~Saturn
02-07-2009, 01:56 AM
I used liquid nails silicon and fiberglass to hold my built to box together (back of my box is the cab) and it is over 4 years old. no leaks or cracks

As long as it's made well, I wouldnt see why it would have any leaks etc. in it...

Very good enclosures can be made with just about any of the mentioned ways, its just alot better of a bond with wood glue, screws, and clamps for added pressure on the joints as they cure..

wasted ink
02-07-2009, 06:15 PM
Titebond II

No need for titebond III, since you don't need it to be waterproof. Gorilla glue is a pain in the *** for boxes, and liquid nails ***** my nuts off.

:fyi:

nG

x2 :fyi:

Only difference in I, II, and III is level of waterproof...ness?

And just for the record, I use titebond III. Glue only joints FTW :fyi:

rollerdj
02-07-2009, 06:50 PM
x2 :fyi:

Only difference in I, II, and III is level of waterproof...ness?

And just for the record, I use titebond III. Glue only joints FTW :fyi:

my latest build is glue only other than to hold the inside sections of the ports in. using tightbond II

Lakota
02-07-2009, 07:11 PM
I use nothing but TB II. I even seal my corners with it. No need to mess with caulk and all that crap unless your cuts just really ****.

audiolife
02-07-2009, 08:43 PM
Meh tite bond wont stick to metal though LOL