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davidt487
02-05-2009, 02:31 PM
i bought a set of these and with less than 75 watts on them the are popping. crossed at 80 24 db slope. doors are deadened but not sealed but the mid is competly though the door like a ib install. what is causing them to pop im reading about everyone putting 200 watts on them and i cant get away with 75.
thanks for the imput

Phlipbak
02-05-2009, 02:32 PM
Pop? What the heck are you talking about lol?

James Bang
02-05-2009, 02:38 PM
clip?

davidt487
02-05-2009, 02:41 PM
Its like they are going to blow the cone out of the basket

speedfreak28
02-05-2009, 02:42 PM
clipping or a short in your wiring, are your gains properly set?

davidt487
02-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Shouldn't be I set the gains with a multi meter and I'm still below what I set it at

speedfreak28
02-05-2009, 02:43 PM
I had a clean 150 each on them from an audison srx4 and they could have taken more.

speedfreak28
02-05-2009, 02:44 PM
what do you have your crossover set at? I'd keep it at 80 hz to be safe

dragnix
02-05-2009, 02:44 PM
check the wiring

davidt487
02-05-2009, 03:02 PM
What wiring should I check because I hooked every thing in phase. Works fine until it starts to get loud then I look and sounds like I'm over driving the mid

groundpound4200
02-05-2009, 04:09 PM
I cross mine at 63HZ, w/ 24db/oct. crossover ran off of an SAX 100.4 and I dont have any issues :confused: My mids barely move.

okiedokie
02-05-2009, 04:46 PM
what amp are you useing?
you may try changing your db slope to find the right xover point for your set up.
you should finish deadening your door.
make sure you have a completely tight seal around the mounting ring.

stuckinok
02-05-2009, 04:56 PM
The falls Huh? we need to have a texoma meet....

Phlipbak
02-05-2009, 04:57 PM
what amp are you useing?
you may try changing your db slope to find the right xover point for your set up.
you should finish deadening your door.
make sure you have a completely tight seal around the mounting ring.

Bingo, could be your problem.

davidt487
02-05-2009, 06:12 PM
The falls Huh? we need to have a texoma meet....

yes we should

the reason i didnt seal off my doors is because there are rods comng through the hole and i dont have a clue what could use to bend into the shape. the hole is on uneven surfaces.(if that makes any since)

DFW40
02-05-2009, 06:42 PM
I do not have those mids but it sounds like either a wiring issue, a gain setting issue or a crossover setting issue. Can you run another mid or speaker free-air off of the amp and see what happens or even an enclosed speaker. I can send roughly 150 to some type R comps with very little issue especially from the mids. Try to narrow it down with trial and error. Is speaker connection loose is it both speakers? Are the wires secured at the amp very well? Do you have some bass boost or EQ jacking the signal up at certain freq?

davidt487
02-05-2009, 07:01 PM
gain set with plenty of head room no bb peq is flat cross over is set at 80 24db slope all the wirng is good. i think it has to be that the door isnt sealed up very good and a semi low crossover. i guess ill have to figure out a way to seal upthat big hole

DFW40
02-05-2009, 09:53 PM
It is not the best way best way but you can put a couple of layers of dynamat across the hole which will help keep the rear wave from coming through completely. You could even put a board that fills most of the hole on the dynamat to give it some stiffness then put another layer on the other side sort of sandwiching the half inch mdf board. It will not be perfect but better. I had to do this and it worked just fine.

twisztdauthorit
02-05-2009, 10:03 PM
i had a similar problem when free airing my id oems.
As soon as i put them in there fiberglass door pods they handled much better.

My x-over is at 80 hz with a 24db slope but they will bottom out at high volume in the lower frequencies.

amp im running is an orion 8004 they should be seeing about 100 watts each

davidt487
02-05-2009, 10:15 PM
they are sealed off from the rear wave because i have the mid on mdf baffles extruding through the door panel i thought about just usin deadener but its a big hole like 3 sq ft or more.
im would like to do door pods but im not sure i have the skill to make it look right

okiedokie
02-06-2009, 08:29 PM
try to change your slpoe to 18db, your 6 1/2 mids aren't subs, 24db is making them go low.
18db you will have more of your upper midbass,plus lower midbass, then you can play with the xover points.
did you say what type of car or trunk that you have??
you can google your car & i bet someone has deaden those doors, if you look you will find!

shadowfactory
02-07-2009, 07:11 PM
try to change your slpoe to 18db, your 6 1/2 mids aren't subs, 24db is making them go low.
18db you will have more of your upper midbass,plus lower midbass, then you can play with the xover points.
did you say what type of car or trunk that you have??
you can google your car & i bet someone has deaden those doors, if you look you will find!

18db will make them play lower than 24db, you have it backwards

okiedokie
02-08-2009, 02:38 PM
sorry ,yes 18db will make play lower, i guess i was smoking some **** at the time when i wrote that