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mcsoul
01-21-2009, 05:19 PM
My 9855 has a dip switch on the chassis that sets it from dual HP fading to a full 3-way crossover. When I run 3-way, can I still use the deck powered rear output and fade some rear fill for backseat passengers on some cheap 6x9's?

James Bang
01-21-2009, 08:30 PM
My 9855 has a dip switch on the chassis that sets it from dual HP fading to a full 3-way crossover. When I run 3-way, can I still use the deck powered rear output and fade some rear fill for backseat passengers on some cheap 6x9's?

when going with 3-way crossover mode, the xover settings will apply the RCA outputs AND the speaker outputs. Your 6x9s will be bandpassed just like your mids.

mcsoul
01-21-2009, 11:03 PM
when going with 3-way crossover mode, the xover settings will apply the RCA outputs AND the speaker outputs. Your 6x9s will be bandpassed just like your mids.

Thanks and awe crap!:laugh:

I take it the fader is dead too and all ta will apply to both as well.

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:08 PM
Thanks and awe crap!:laugh:

I take it the fader is dead too and all ta will apply to both as well.

The manual states that if 3-way is used fade is not available, only balance.

EDIT: I noticed that too and immediately removed rear speakers.

ngsm13
01-21-2009, 11:13 PM
TA will apply to each individual speaker...

nG

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:14 PM
TA will apply to each individual speaker...

nG

right, but the TA applies to FL FR RL RR S1 S2... if you adjust TA for the rear speakers your mids up front and playing at the same time as your rears and then you would have tweets all messed up... Not a good idea IMO.

mcsoul
01-21-2009, 11:21 PM
What I meant was that any ta values I set up for the fronts externally amplified components would also apply to the rear cheapo components that I may try to hook up to the deck amp for kicks. ie it will sound like ****.

ngsm13
01-21-2009, 11:28 PM
Not really if you just want it for rear fill.

Though, you would have to adjust your gains differently. Because the power from the deck will clip, before the pre-outs do...

If you must have rear fill... it'd be okay to bandpass them into the vocal range anyway...

nG

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:30 PM
What I meant was that any ta values I set up for the fronts externally amplified components would also apply to the rear cheapo components that I may try to hook up to the deck amp for kicks. ie it will sound like ****.


Not really if you just want it for rear fill.

Though, you would have to adjust your gains differently. Because the power from the deck will clip, before the pre-outs do...

If you must have rear fill... it'd be okay to bandpass them into the vocal range anyway...

nG

Very true, but you must amp the rear's in order for it to really be worth anything IMO. Actually i wouldnt put any in the back in the first place so its not worth it to me, but it is possible i guess.

mcsoul
01-21-2009, 11:35 PM
Not really if you just want it for rear fill.

Though, you would have to adjust your gains differently. Because the power from the deck will clip, before the pre-outs do...

If you must have rear fill... it'd be okay to bandpass them into the vocal range anyway...

nG

Cool, thanks. My intended crossover point for the mains (and deck by default) is somewhere between 2.5k and 3.2k; I'll probably wait for someone selling some mach5's cheap and run some low end dayton neo's with them in the rear deck off the HU power. Just to fool around with it.

Edit: I'll be pissed if it sounds better than my more expensive front stage.

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:38 PM
What are you running up front? Can you tell me the difference in the 9855 and the 9853?

ngsm13
01-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Wait, you want to components in the rear too? Off deck power?

nG

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:44 PM
Wait, you want to components in the rear too? Off deck power?

nG

Yeah.....umm ???

ngsm13
01-21-2009, 11:45 PM
I just think it's stupid...

nG

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:47 PM
I just think it's stupid...

nG

I think that only mids in the rear is not a good idea either.

mcsoul
01-21-2009, 11:50 PM
What are you running up front? Can you tell me the difference in the 9855 and the 9853?

Glide touch on the 9855 which ***** and a few other small features, I'll have to look at the manual, I think they share the same manual. I can try to post a link the manual if you want.


Wait, you want to components in the rear too? Off deck power?

nG

Actually I just want some rear fill, if the HU is feeding the low band pass crossover point to the rear speaker outs and the high out to front speaker outs anyway (which I did not know until this thread); I was thinking well maybe yeah I guess.:laugh:

mcsoul
01-21-2009, 11:53 PM
Alpine 9853 and 9855 manual

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/500/500CDA9853.PDF

budahbuddy803
01-21-2009, 11:59 PM
Alpine 9853 and 9855 manual

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.com/Manuals/500/500CDA9853.PDF

I have it, i just thought you might know off the top of you head. 53 has glide touch too. I like it honestly.

mcsoul
01-22-2009, 12:02 AM
I have it, i just thought you might know off the top of you head. 53 has glide touch too. I like it honestly.

I don't hate it, I use the remote a lot. I can see where some people would not like it though.

Lil Poot
01-22-2009, 10:21 AM
meh. rear fill is for fegs.

mcsoul
01-22-2009, 10:38 AM
Ok, f*ck the rear fill.

ngsm13
01-22-2009, 01:03 PM
+1

nG

Slammed
01-25-2009, 08:24 PM
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