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stevew007
01-03-2009, 07:53 PM
well the word is there is going to be a show at ultimate on 84th-I25.

I hear it is going to be a crossbreed unsanctioned event. i will post the flyer when i get it or I will post info as it's passed to me

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/nismofreak18/Bassboxing001.jpg

Nismofreak
01-04-2009, 05:14 PM
you guys better go to this show that were asking for one. There will be a separate trunk class for trunk cars

shakinghorizons
01-04-2009, 05:34 PM
i'll be there. Colin/got_focus should be coming also :thumbupw:

Mattd0344
01-04-2009, 05:40 PM
you guys better go to this show that were asking for one. There will be a separate trunk class for trunk cars

can you fold the seats down and still be in this class or is it seats up?

hunterw
01-04-2009, 06:33 PM
im going to try my hardest to make it. hopefully you guys will have the outlaw part :)

stevew007
01-04-2009, 07:31 PM
can you fold the seats down and still be in this class or is it seats up?

only if your seats come like that from the factory but who play's by the rule's:D


im going to try my hardest to make it. hopefully you guys will have the outlaw part :)

that would be cool maybe we can meet up. not sure why james did'nt lmk you were here last time

Nismofreak
01-04-2009, 08:23 PM
you can fold seats down

stevew007
01-04-2009, 08:37 PM
you can fold seats down

so lenny said this is a class?

04yzfr1
01-04-2009, 09:34 PM
will be there

bump:eek:

stevew007
01-04-2009, 09:56 PM
well i was told if the weather is bad we will be pulling cars into the bay to meter them and hangout. "knock on wood " hope to have great weather

Mattd0344
01-05-2009, 12:06 AM
well i was told if the weather is bad we will be pulling cars into the bay to meter them and hangout. "knock on wood " hope to have great weather

ya knock on wood....hopefully it'll start to warm up before then

Mattd0344
01-05-2009, 12:08 AM
you can fold seats down

sweet sounds good to me :yumyum: ......hoping to get a somewhat loud trunk this year..well see

duece212
01-05-2009, 12:10 AM
Will try to make it down...if the current moofers don't sell I'll try to show up with them, if they do sell I'll show up with something different...who knows. I have adhd when it comes to stereo **** :/

hunterw
01-05-2009, 12:48 AM
that would be cool maybe we can meet up. not sure why james did'nt lmk you were here last time

yeah me neither lol. well if the weather is good from here to there, im sure ill be there. plus james and i have an audio swap meet we need to attend to LOL

d-REW
01-05-2009, 01:10 AM
im in moar details though how does these trunk vs open air class work? and is it a bassrace or spl so i can have the right box in etc..

Nismofreak
01-05-2009, 03:05 AM
im in moar details though how does these trunk vs open air class work? and is it a bassrace or spl so i can have the right box in etc..

both bass race/db drag but we will keep you guys updated since the guy putting on the show will keep us informed.\

hope i get rid of my 4 15 by that show.....feeling some nightshade 18 up my sleeve

d-REW
01-05-2009, 03:21 AM
both bass race/db drag but we will keep you guys updated since the guy putting on the show will keep us informed.\

hope i get rid of my 4 15 by that show.....feeling some nightshade 18 up my sleve

nice thats sick i for sure wanna hear a sundown 18. why u gettin rid of the 4 15's already? didnt u only have 2 in at the sept show? thats **** sounded sick i thought.

Nismofreak
01-05-2009, 03:28 AM
nice thats sick i for sure wanna hear a sundown 18. why u gettin rid of the 4 15's already? didnt u only have 2 in at the sept show? thats **** sounded sick i thought.

i am sick not having back seats and need more room so bye bye 15. Yah i had 2 but eh idk wanted 18s always lol
I was gonna wall it, but to many people already have walls and really didn't want one. Gonna try to make it loud without it being walled

PBateman
01-05-2009, 03:54 AM
both bass race/db drag but we will keep you guys updated since the guy putting on the show will keep us informed.\

hope i get rid of my 4 15 by that show.....feeling some nightshade 18 up my sleve

It's sleeve you fruit basket! :p:

Nismofreak
01-05-2009, 04:02 AM
It's sleeve you fruit basket! :p:
lol
I better have my jig tomorrow!!!!
if not I will haunt you haha
jm

stevew007
01-05-2009, 08:10 AM
im in moar details though how does these trunk vs open air class work? and is it a bassrace or spl so i can have the right box in etc..

trunk class is trunks only! bassrace,dbdrag,outlaw bring the box you want to run:D

hunterw
01-05-2009, 07:01 PM
woopty woop god i hope there is no snow on wolf creek pass in FEB. *fingers crossed* you guys still doing an outlaw portion as well right?

stevew007
01-05-2009, 07:32 PM
woopty woop god i hope there is no snow on wolf creek pass in FEB. *fingers crossed* you guys still doing an outlaw portion as well right?

yes outlaw was a big hit last time

hunterw
01-05-2009, 07:39 PM
cool. :)

Nismofreak
01-06-2009, 12:01 AM
dam hunterw isn't this show a far drive from farmington to denver? lol

duece212
01-06-2009, 12:31 AM
I'll probably be in Farmington NM at somepoint this summer for a truck pull...not really looking forward to it...heh

hunterw
01-06-2009, 12:35 PM
dam hunterw isn't this show a far drive from farmington to denver? lol

its about 8 hours. all the compitions are that far away though. if its not local then its a 3 plus hour drive. :(

hunterw
01-06-2009, 12:36 PM
I'll probably be in Farmington NM at somepoint this summer for a truck pull...not really looking forward to it...heh

truck pull? lol. fun stuff.

Pyro_By_Nature
01-07-2009, 04:42 PM
Cool. As long as we have one week of good, somewhat warm weather before then I should be able to get everything done.

duece212
01-07-2009, 04:46 PM
Cool. As long as we have one week of good, somewhat warm weather before then I should be able to get everything done.

And it doesn't snow that day...Guessin that car ***** on snow/ice

Pyro_By_Nature
01-07-2009, 04:50 PM
Yeah, it doesn't go anywhere in snow. When we were getting all that snow it spent a couple weeks in my friend's driveway waiting for the snow/ice to melt down enough for me to get traction. It takes me a while to get up to 25mph on ice :crap:

Nismofreak
01-09-2009, 10:03 PM
more news on show
There won't be a trunk class since the person running the show changed his mind. It will be db drag and bass race. As for registration cost it will be $15 for either bass race or db drag but if you pre register which will be starting jan 26 thru feburary 5th( will make sure if correct) the cost for both events will be $20

stevew007
01-09-2009, 10:27 PM
more news on show
There won't be a trunk class since the person running the show changed his mind. It will be db drag and bass race. As for registration cost it will be $15 for either bass race or db drag but if you pre register which will be starting jan 26 thru feburary 5th( will make sure if correct) the cost for both events will be $20

what about outlaw??? edited sorry no outlaw

stevew007
01-09-2009, 10:48 PM
more news on show
There won't be a trunk class since the person running the show changed his mind. It will be db drag and bass race. As for registration cost it will be $15 for either bass race or db drag but if you pre register which will be starting jan 26 thru feburary 5th( will make sure if correct) the cost for both events will be $20

hey nismo when you add info add the right info so you dont chase people off!

there will be NO outlaw :(

bassrace/dbdrag with thropheys

tropheys for the loudest trunk,truck,hatch,suv

oh and i think my new build falls in the trunk class :p: LOL

Nismofreak
01-10-2009, 12:25 AM
hey nismo when you add info add the right info so you dont chase people off!

there will be NO outlaw :(

bassrace/dbdrag with thropheys

tropheys for the loudest trunk,truck,hatch,suv

oh and i think my new build falls in the trunk class :p: LOL

damit steve. :mad:
it will be trophies like usual

d-REW
01-10-2009, 12:30 AM
edited

Nismofreak
01-10-2009, 02:03 AM
11 am also isnt it? i was talking to lenny yesterday at ultimate.

no time yet said at what time the show will start. Steve or me will keep it updated

d-REW
01-10-2009, 02:06 AM
no time yet said at what time the show will start. Steve or me will keep it updated

cool sounds good

Nismofreak
01-10-2009, 02:08 AM
The week before the show you can some meter your car so you can get some practice runs at bass race or db drag fyi

Mattd0344
01-10-2009, 02:14 AM
oh and i think my new build falls in the trunk class :p: LOL

NO! :furious:
lol i think you wana stick in the hatch class

Mattd0344
01-10-2009, 02:16 AM
more news on show
There won't be a trunk class since the person running the show changed his mind. It will be db drag and bass race. As for registration cost it will be $15 for either bass race or db drag but if you pre register which will be starting jan 26 thru feburary 5th( will make sure if correct) the cost for both events will be $20

with pre-registration, do you do that through the db drag website or what?

stevew007
01-10-2009, 08:27 AM
with pre-registration, do you do that through the db drag website or what?

are you a member? are you looking for points? because this is NOT a
"dbdrag" per say! but it can be if there is any members of dbdrag. I think there is only 2 dbdrag members in colo.and they didnt like bassrace for some reason:rolleyes:

I was told 11am start time by lenny

oh and my new build is in this:D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/astro2.jpg

Nismofreak
01-10-2009, 11:51 AM
are you a member? are you looking for points? because this is NOT a
"dbdrag" per say! but it can be if there is any members of dbdrag. I think there is only 2 dbdrag members in colo.and they didnt like bassrace for some reason:rolleyes:

I was told 11am start time by lenny

oh and my new build is in this:D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/astro2.jpg

your new build ***** :D
jm

Mattd0344
01-10-2009, 01:45 PM
are you a member? are you looking for points? because this is NOT a
"dbdrag" per say! but it can be if there is any members of dbdrag. I think there is only 2 dbdrag members in colo.and they didnt like bassrace for some reason:rolleyes:

I was told 11am start time by lenny

oh and my new build is in this:D
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/astro2.jpg

Nah..I'm not, been thinking about it though. So we just head over to Ultimate Electronics off 84th and say we want to preregister?

That's the new build? I'm expecting something crazy coming out of that thing. Isn't that considered in the SUV class?

stevew007
01-10-2009, 01:51 PM
Nah..I'm not, been thinking about it though. So we just head over to Ultimate Electronics off 84th and say we want to preregister?

That's the new build? I'm expecting something crazy coming out of that thing. Isn't that considered in the SUV class?

yeah talk to lenny in the install bay

well the back opens like a hatch!?!!?:p:

duece212
01-10-2009, 01:55 PM
Hrmm..that should hold a little more equipment than the rex :)

Mattd0344
01-10-2009, 02:44 PM
yeah talk to lenny in the install bay

well the back opens like a hatch!?!!?:p:

Alright sounds good.

Yaaa lol like a hatch...:p:

stevew007
01-10-2009, 06:06 PM
Hrmm..that should hold a little more equipment than the rex :)

yes yes it does but only a little more;)

stevew007
01-12-2009, 03:58 PM
see what I'm workin wit with now? a pair of wheels just makes any vehicle look better

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/van2.jpg

d-REW
01-12-2009, 05:20 PM
looks good is it gonna be ready for feb 15th?

Nismofreak
01-12-2009, 06:01 PM
no i think is the answer, but yet you never know

stevew007
01-12-2009, 06:15 PM
no i think is the answer, but yet you never know

yeah thats right because all the people i help never help me cough"tom"cough ;)

no i think it can happen if i get all my sub parts in by then hint hint pbateman

nikhcePtcejorP
01-12-2009, 10:21 PM
I'll go there for sure, weather my trunk gets done or not lol

nikhcePtcejorP
01-12-2009, 10:23 PM
yeah thats right because all the people i help never help me cough"tom"cough ;)

no i think it can happen if i get all my sub parts in by then hint hint pbateman

Lmk if you need help steve. I can give a hand with something. and maybe you can help me out too :)

stevew007
01-12-2009, 10:44 PM
Lmk if you need help steve. I can give a hand with something. and maybe you can help me out too :)

I am willing to give you a hand but most my time will be spent on my ride right now to try and get it ready for the show.

got_focus?
01-12-2009, 11:11 PM
I might be able to lend a hand along with Josh possibly if you need it.....you have helped me enough that I should return the favor!

:cuddle:

Nismofreak
01-12-2009, 11:27 PM
yeah thats right because all the people i help never help me cough"tom"cough ;)

no i think it can happen if i get all my sub parts in by then hint hint pbateman

Bs :p:
always ready to help lol. I really need to get a dam job

Nismofreak
01-12-2009, 11:38 PM
pbateman is a fagit

PBateman
01-13-2009, 05:35 PM
pbateman is a fagit

Now tomek, that's not very nice to say. :verymad:

Nismofreak
01-13-2009, 06:02 PM
Now tomek, that's not very nice to say. :verymad:

O i am so NOT sorry :D:p:

Nismofreak
01-13-2009, 08:21 PM
here
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/nismofreak18/van22.jpg

stevew007
01-13-2009, 08:22 PM
tom why delete your work of art ?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/van22.jpg


**** tom my 12 year old kid could of did better with colored pencils

why are you trying to hack my photobucket tom LOL

Nismofreak
01-13-2009, 08:25 PM
lol Artistic **** buddy!!!!!

PBateman
01-13-2009, 08:44 PM
Wow, top notch tommy! :laugh:

Nismofreak
01-13-2009, 08:45 PM
Wow, top notch tommy! :laugh:

I know. Got first place in a art show. Its displayed at the Denver art museum!!
Sorry sucker :D:laugh:

Nismofreak
01-13-2009, 11:07 PM
k here is the flyer posted up
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/nismofreak18/Bassboxing001.jpg

duece212
01-13-2009, 11:58 PM
Holy ****, we have an artist among us

Nismofreak
01-14-2009, 12:05 AM
Holy ****, we have an artist among us

Am i not the best. Starting bit for picture $1 lol Bid! :D

stevew007
01-14-2009, 08:25 AM
starting bid to take it down will start @ $500

Nismofreak
01-14-2009, 09:05 AM
lol my bid bump to $100,000 hahaha

stevew007
01-15-2009, 09:53 PM
shoot this photo chopping is hard stuff here's my hack job

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/van3.jpg

duece212
01-15-2009, 09:59 PM
you need bags

got_focus?
01-15-2009, 10:31 PM
Who will be running the show???

Nismofreak
01-15-2009, 10:31 PM
shoot this photo chopping is hard stuff here's my hack job

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/van3.jpg

lol. Yah told you this isn't easy. Bag it for sure lol

stevew007
01-15-2009, 10:41 PM
Who will be running the show???

lenny will be doing the show


as for bags you need to tub it and that would take away from the rear cargo area and thats alot of money too then what would I use to buy equipment :D

got_focus?
01-15-2009, 10:50 PM
lenny will be doing the show

****ing lenny

stevew007
01-15-2009, 10:57 PM
well this is more what i will be doing
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a42/splfrek/van5.jpg

Nismofreak
01-15-2009, 11:02 PM
lenny will be doing the show


as for bags you need to tub it and that would take away from the rear cargo area and thats alot of money too then what would I use to buy equipment :D

the magical money tree :laugh:

Nismofreak
01-15-2009, 11:10 PM
i still gotta get my new mid and high set up done. Gonna sound really nice when i get done. Steve hit me up when you need some help on the van

stevew007
01-16-2009, 07:16 PM
well i'm going to start on the van tomorow pulling wire ,alarm, stripping some more of the trim off. so if anyone wants to come by give me a call in the morning 303-912-3390

Pyro_By_Nature
01-16-2009, 11:49 PM
What are you gonna fill that thing with? :sneaky:

Nismofreak
01-17-2009, 01:01 AM
What are you gonna fill that thing with? :sneaky:

I know some funky pups will be as subs. Imagine the earthquake

Pyro_By_Nature
01-17-2009, 01:06 AM
I still have some pups of my own :sneaky:

Wonder if I could get the pair of 8's to top out the meter? :p: nah haha, realistic goal would be to see if they even would register. :laugh:

Nismofreak
01-17-2009, 02:11 AM
I still have some pups of my own :sneaky:

Wonder if I could get the pair of 8's to top out the meter? :p: nah haha, realistic goal would be to see if they even would register. :laugh:

LOL. 170db haha

stevew007
01-17-2009, 10:22 AM
What are you gonna fill that thing with? :sneaky:

4 of this 2 of that a few of these and a whole lot a db dust sprinkle sprinkle sprinkle :D

duece212
01-17-2009, 09:24 PM
If anybody needs a PM d3100 for a little extra power for the show let me know, I'll hook a local person up for cheap

stevew007
01-17-2009, 09:34 PM
are you selling everything or what

Nismofreak
01-17-2009, 09:38 PM
pm sent

duece212
01-17-2009, 09:39 PM
are you selling everything or what

Got a dd9512 and gp3000d to run next month. Don't need 3 batts for that :)

stevew007
01-17-2009, 09:42 PM
is it the pro?

duece212
01-17-2009, 09:43 PM
is it the pro?

yup...figured ~3000w for 350 bucks was a good deal

stevew007
01-17-2009, 09:46 PM
ok so here is a list of things i just ordered for my astro
clear corner light's
alteza tail lights (clear with red circle's)
roll pan
phantom grill

the paint will be silver on the bottom and black on top. I think the tail lights will blend in more with the silver being clear lense's what do you think?

duece212
01-17-2009, 09:48 PM
ok so here is a list of things i just ordered for my astro
clear corner light's
alteza tail lights (clear with red circle's)
roll pan
phantom grill

the paint will be silver on the bottom and black on top. I think the tail lights will blend in more with the silver being clear lense's what do you think?

Not a fan of alteza's, but with them being against silver paint they should blend better.

Whens the paint gonna happen?

stevew007
01-17-2009, 09:52 PM
Not a fan of alteza's, but with them being against silver paint they should blend better.

Whens the paint gonna happen?

lots of body work. there is some scratchs down the passenger side,I need to customize a chevy truck front bumper,weld a roll pan,all the trim was held on buy some nail heads so they need to go away,need to fill the holes from the roof rack along with some other hole's from badges and trim.so when can you come down and do that for me LOL it wont happen for a few months if not more

stevew007
01-17-2009, 09:53 PM
oh and i would of got all clear tail lights but they are not legal so one less thing for the cops to pull me over

duece212
01-17-2009, 10:02 PM
lots of body work. there is some scratchs down the passenger side,I need to customize a chevy truck front bumper,weld a rool pan,all the trim was held on buy some nail heads so they need to go away,need to fill the holes from the roof rack along with some other hole's from badges and trim.so when can you come down and do that for me LOL it wont happen for a few months if not more

body work, funnest activity ever! ***** being up north here but once it starts warmin up I wouldn't mind swinging down and lending a hand.

stevew007
01-17-2009, 10:05 PM
oh a fair weather freind huh? LOL J/K

duece212
01-17-2009, 10:06 PM
oh a fair weather freind huh? LOL J/K

naw, just a ***** when it comes to the cold :laugh:

Shits definately more fun to work on in nice weather

Nismofreak
01-17-2009, 11:10 PM
lol i was in shorts. Was warm today

stevew007
01-18-2009, 07:59 AM
lol i was in shorts. Was warm today

yeah but we all know you got a couple a stripped screws. (they hold it in place but it's still loose):D

Nismofreak
01-18-2009, 11:06 AM
yeah but we all know you got a couple a stripped screws. (they hold it in place but it's still loose):D
that bumper was a ***** and you know lol :laugh:

stevew007
01-18-2009, 07:06 PM
did some work this weekend with some help from Pbateman and nismofreak.
got most of the wire ran,alarm in with power locks (nothing special) took off all the molding's rear bumper and hitch, layed out the face of the box.but still need more room on the face plate

Nismofreak
01-19-2009, 11:58 PM
yah was a long day. Lets get it done!!

TnT_Sounds
01-20-2009, 03:29 AM
Why is every show seem to be only in the Denver area?

stevew007
01-20-2009, 07:58 AM
Why is every show seem to be only in the Denver area?

you can come get your share from my driveway LOL

Nismofreak
01-20-2009, 11:11 AM
well drive down here and bring the loud f-150 lol

TnT_Sounds
01-20-2009, 02:35 PM
Im not going since Im in Alamosa.. Im well over 250miles and 5hours of driving time. My Ford gets roughly 13mpg and I dont drive it long distances. If I go somewhere with it, I usually tow it. Sorry but I won't be there.

PBateman
01-20-2009, 09:40 PM
Im not going since Im in Alamosa.. Im well over 250miles and 5hours of driving time. My Ford gets roughly 13mpg and I dont drive it long distances. If I go somewhere with it, I usually tow it. Sorry but I won't be there.

Do it! 250 miles is not that bad. ;) It would be nice to get some more people at the shows this year.

hunterw
01-20-2009, 09:49 PM
Im not going since Im in Alamosa.. Im well over 250miles and 5hours of driving time. My Ford gets roughly 13mpg and I dont drive it long distances. If I go somewhere with it, I usually tow it. Sorry but I won't be there.

there is a event here in farmington NM thats only 3 hours away. i know pbateman is coming dow for it. maybe even steve. :)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/hunterw86/usaciflyer1.jpg

stevew007
01-20-2009, 09:58 PM
there is a event here in farmington NM thats only 3 hours away. i know pbateman is coming dow for it. maybe even steve. :)
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e321/hunterw86/usaciflyer1.jpg

jaffe's shows take way to long for my taste I mean i like the show's but when you get there @ 3pm and leave @ 2am thats way to long and all of that so he can enter as many people as he can even the 3 people that showed up at midnight it was a joke :verymad:

hunterw
01-20-2009, 10:01 PM
jaffe's shows take way to long for my taste I mean i like the show's but when you get there @ 3pm and leave @ 2am thats way to long and all of that so he can enter as many people as he can even the 3 people that showed up at midnight it was a joke :verymad:


lol he is kinda slow. but it will be anawesome show and it starts at 1 so it will be odne by 8 lol. you can crash at my place .lol yo ucan share a room with james haha ill even give you a free puppy if you come

stevew007
01-20-2009, 10:16 PM
lol he is kinda slow. but it will be anawesome show and it starts at 1 so it will be odne by 8 lol. you can crash at my place .lol yo ucan share a room with james haha ill even give you a free puppy if you come

hahaha I heard about the free puppy.

edit that just was not right LOL forgive me lord for I have ohhhh what ever hahahah

TnT_Sounds
01-20-2009, 11:06 PM
Im not gonna be there.. Soonest show I'd be able to go to would be in April. Got the 4 10's out and sold and now doing 6 12's

hunterw
01-21-2009, 12:32 AM
march 29th is almost april lol. few days off

stevew007
01-21-2009, 07:09 PM
Im not gonna be there.. Soonest show I'd be able to go to would be in April. Got the 4 10's out and sold and now doing 6 12's

pics of old install:cool:

Pyro_By_Nature
01-21-2009, 10:53 PM
Do it! 250 miles is not that bad. ;) It would be nice to get some more people at the shows this year.

For some reason I doubt this show would be worth a 5 hour drive for someone getting 13mpg.

****, a few of Lenny's shows were a waste of me driving an hour and a half.

stevew007
01-21-2009, 10:54 PM
For some reason I doubt this show would be worth a 5 hour drive for someone getting 13mpg.

****, a few of Lenny's shows were a waste of me driving an hour and a half.

so what was wrong with the shows there pyro??? let us know!!!

Pyro_By_Nature
01-21-2009, 11:11 PM
4 people competing isn't a "show" :laugh:

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 12:03 AM
4 people competing isn't a "show" :laugh:

negative........Thanks alot Pyro ***......:p::D:laugh:

Pyro_By_Nature
01-22-2009, 12:27 AM
negative........Thanks alot Pyro ***......:p::D:laugh:

4 competitors is more of a circle jerk, feg. ;)

I'm still trying to drag a few peeps from up here with systems down there for the show. My car may not be ready, might just work on getting my friend's system going.

PBateman
01-22-2009, 01:17 AM
For some reason I doubt this show would be worth a 5 hour drive for someone getting 13mpg.

****, a few of Lenny's shows were a waste of me driving an hour and a half.

**** Brent, that kind of comment won't help with getting more people to shows. :(

PBateman
01-22-2009, 01:19 AM
4 competitors is more of a circle jerk, feg. ;)

I'm still trying to drag a few peeps from up here with systems down there for the show. My car may not be ready, might just work on getting my friend's system going.

Try to get both cars to the show. :) What setup will your friend be running?

Pyro_By_Nature
01-22-2009, 01:30 AM
**** Brent, that kind of comment won't help with getting more people to shows. :(

Meh, I can't help but be honest that I was disappointed with a couple of the shows (not all of them mind you). Not trying to discourage, but if I drove 5 hours for a few of the shows last year I'd be a little ticked off.

As far as both cars, not sure if that'll happen. I need a new rim/tire thanks to a huge *** pothole, and I'm not rolling down there with a donut.

As for my friend's system, nothing crazy. Just your average daily system. 1 12" AQ SD2.5, power unknown at this point.Going to try and get a strong amp in his car before the show. But with the right box with his small amp now it should still be good for mid 130's. ;)

I still need to work on something capable of mid-high 140's for myself again, I miss those trf's. 148-149 on music was intense.

TnT_Sounds
01-22-2009, 01:36 AM
For some reason I doubt this show would be worth a 5 hour drive for someone getting 13mpg.

****, a few of Lenny's shows were a waste of me driving an hour and a half.

I never entered into any of the shows, but I have been to them before and I'd say I have my opnion is the same as yours man:D

PBateman
01-22-2009, 02:17 AM
I never entered into any of the shows, but I have been to them before and I'd say I have my opnion is the same as yours man:D

I hear you and it's true that not all the shows were that great but if no one ever shows up then there will be less and less shows. :( I do understand that a 5 hour drive might not be worth it for a show that could very well only have a dozen people in it. Maybe this summer someone can throw together a show down by pueblo. I just think the best part of this very expensive and time consuming hobby is going to shows and getting a chance to see other peoples installs and the different gear out there. :)

Pyro_By_Nature
01-22-2009, 02:35 AM
Talk to Joe about a show down in pueblo, not sure if he did one last year but I know he did the year before last.

stevew007
01-22-2009, 08:10 AM
I never entered into any of the shows, but I have been to them before and I'd say I have my opnion is the same as yours man:D



so you've come down to lenny's shows? which one i dont remeber ever seeing your truck.

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 11:02 AM
Eh i might throw a show or at least help lenny have a sucessful show. He is gonna start doing sanctioned events but idk if wayne would let him

TnT_Sounds
01-22-2009, 05:03 PM
so you've come down to lenny's shows? which one i dont remeber ever seeing your truck.

Like I said I never entered, so I didn't even drive my gas hog of a truck.. I was in my 08 F150, pearl, with 22's. I went to a few actually, I dont know who put them on personaly, but I went to 3 in Albuquerque and 2 in Raton last year and I was kind of disappointed. But I blame my friend John cuz he said there will be many heavy hitters there and so I got my hopes up to see some big systems, but I didn't

I would be all down for going to shows if they were a little closer, regardless of how small they are.. Once a year Joe throws a show in Pueblo at the Fair Ground on Cinco De Mayo, but maybe myself and 5 other people including Pete from JR electronics are in it. And the way its setup isn't really a fair competition. When my friend John had 2 10's in his escort on 1k watts he was up against Joe who is a pro at it and has like 14k watts, more cone area and overall a way better system. I dont know if Im gonna go to them anymore either since its not very well setup. And having to pay a $20 entry fee to boot is not worth it to me. I know plenty of Army boys and friends in the Springs area that would go to every show there is if they were in Springs, hell even I would. Only things that go on in Springs is the crap ones put on by Drive In Autosound and the use an AC mic.

stevew007
01-22-2009, 07:00 PM
Like I said I never entered, so I didn't even drive my gas hog of a truck.. I was in my 08 F150, pearl, with 22's. I went to a few actually, I dont know who put them on personaly, but I went to 3 in Albuquerque and 2 in Raton last year and I was kind of disappointed. But I blame my friend John cuz he said there will be many heavy hitters there and so I got my hopes up to see some big systems, but I didn't

I would be all down for going to shows if they were a little closer, regardless of how small they are.. Once a year Joe throws a show in Pueblo at the Fair Ground on Cinco De Mayo, but maybe myself and 5 other people including Pete from JR electronics are in it. And the way its setup isn't really a fair competition. When my friend John had 2 10's in his escort on 1k watts he was up against Joe who is a pro at it and has like 14k watts, more cone area and overall a way better system. I dont know if Im gonna go to them anymore either since its not very well setup. And having to pay a $20 entry fee to boot is not worth it to me. I know plenty of Army boys and friends in the Springs area that would go to every show there is if they were in Springs, hell even I would. Only things that go on in Springs is the crap ones put on by Drive In Autosound and the use an AC mic.

so you never came to a show in denver but you agreed with pyro about lenny's show's being sucky???? wtf what kind of crap is that???? you might as well stay home anyways and i know for a fact that the cinco de mayo shows are big! I just talked to joe he says your full of $hit and he's going to get me the result's from the show.he also told me that he run's dbdrag rule's 2-10's 2-12's 2-15's and so on. he also runs in unlimited woofer class so I dont see how your buddy with 2 10's would go up against joe. you should start telling the truth about ****. you dont have to lie to us. dont bad mouth people on the colorado forums you are going to put yourself in a bad situation when you do go to a show. there might be some words said.


nuff said now back to making fun a of nismo:D

Pyro_By_Nature
01-22-2009, 07:43 PM
So is that van gonna be ready for the show?

stevew007
01-22-2009, 07:50 PM
So is that van gonna be ready for the show?

it will have something in it! not sure what yet cough james cough :D but for the most part it will be threre but not done for sure still need to well build everything including door pods,wall,body work ok wait wait wait lets do it this way the only thing done is alarm and some wire LOL

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 10:51 PM
nuff said now back to making fun a of nismo:D
*** wipe ::p:

JM

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 10:53 PM
it will have something in it! not sure what yet cough james cough :D but for the most part it will be threre but not done for sure still need to well build everything including door pods,wall,body work ok wait wait wait lets do it this way the only thing done is alarm and some wire LOL
James might slap the 18 in the escort of 2 sundown 3000

stevew007
01-22-2009, 10:53 PM
yeah what ever ***** see you saturday

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 10:56 PM
yeah what ever ***** see you saturday
lets bring that wall to life this weekend. Try to get the subs built so we can build the box and slap some amps in and fire her up! ;)

duece212
01-22-2009, 11:00 PM
So the vans gonna be walled for the show?

2loudcrew
01-22-2009, 11:42 PM
[QUOTE=stevew007;5735691]so you never came to a show in denver but you agreed with pyro about lenny's show's being sucky???? wtf what kind of crap is that???? you might as well stay home anyways and i know for a fact that the cinco de mayo shows are big! I just talked to joe he says your full of $hit and he's going to get me the result's from the show.he also told me that he run's dbdrag rule's 2-10's 2-12's 2-15's and so on. he also runs in unlimited woofer class so I dont see how your buddy with 2 10's would go up against joe. you should start telling the truth about ****. you dont have to lie to us. dont bad mouth people on the colorado forums you are going to put yourself in a bad situation when you do go to a show. there might be some words said.


Thanks Steve for telling the truth. What up everybody, I'm finally on this forum. Could not stand back hearing bullshit stories.

Travis, What the hell is going on? I have always been cool to you. How do you talk **** about me and my shows?

Fact is I have had good turnouts for Cinco De Mayo Car Show every year. We had 26 SPL competitors last year, 114 Car Show Entries, and over 7,000 spectators at the Cinco Festivities. Year before that we had 32 SPL competitors. I try to run show as fair as possible by placing competitors in categories equal in cone area.( 1 sub up to 2-10's, 2-12", 2-15" up to 2-18", and 3 and up subs). There were six entries in 1 to 2-10s, 10 entries in 2-12s(Travis took second to Will Carr in his BMW with 2-12" Earthquake subs), Five entries in 2-15 to 2-18, and 5 entries in 3 and up subs, which I did take first place with 2-15s over Jason from Drive-In Autosound with 20-10s, Ricky Ingersoll with wall in Blazer and Mike Snead with 4-10s. If anybody should be pissed it would be Mike, but he was cool with the show. I never ran against car with 2-10s at any of the past Cinco De Mayo Car Shows. Entry fee is actually $35 because it is a fundraiser for youth dance group and we give out beautiful trophies. I can get competitor references to validate if necessary.

Travis, time to come clean and tell the truth. You will be a man to say that you were wrong and then we can move forward.

Steve, good talking to you today. Looking forward to hearing that van. Let me know if you want to buy my Kinetiks.

PBateman
01-22-2009, 11:48 PM
James might slap the 18 in the escort of 2 sundown 3000

James might run 2 7's in the escort off a sundown 3000. ;)

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 11:49 PM
what up joe? good to see you on the forum

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 11:49 PM
James might run 2 7's in the escort off a sundown 3000. ;)

LOL :D

2loudcrew
01-22-2009, 11:52 PM
what up joe? good to see you on the forum

Hey Tom. Looking forward to seeing you at some shows. Don't know if I will be ready for Feb 15. I have to replace a sub and waiting on new batteries.

Nismofreak
01-22-2009, 11:59 PM
hopefully you get that stuff in on time lol

duece212
01-23-2009, 12:45 AM
People seem to like to whine and ***** too much. Can't wait for the show, always good to check out what other people got goin on. Always nice to get to check some loud stuff as well :)

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 02:53 AM
Maybe I over exaggerated, and the shows aren't that "Big" as far as competitiors entered. The place is usually packed but with show cars. They have got a lot bigger over the past 2~3years, but what Im more getting at is its not a fair competition, the way the rules are for that show are not DB Drag racing rules as far as outlaw goes, and you out of anyone should know that. Also if I remeber correctly John B. the guy with the Ecsort was up against Will Carr as well and not only did he have way more power he also had you as his mentor basically and your crew helped him through everything as I remember Will telling me when we were drinking together. I remember it being not fair at all. John also asked you how could that be fair, and you said " I dont put you up against the other competitiors, the computer does it accordingly". I think if you are doing certain rules which your trying to keep even and just to make it seem fair, then outlaw should not be allowed and the mic should have to be at the dash. Only reason Will won was because he was able to play with his trunk open. Since that was allowed I feel I should've been allowed to put my mic in the glove box since thats how I build most pressure. I can see we dont have enough people show up to do real DB Drag rules and I got nothing against you (Joe) by all means cuz I've always turned to you for help when I was doing my blow-through and you out of all people know that well enough. If I needed to "Man up" to something it was over-exaggerating which I admit I did do, but you of all people know that the shows aren't played by real DB Drag rules and are not on the fair side for new competitiors. Metaphoricaly the way it seems to me when someone goes up against someone else they know they can't beat, would be like you going up against Alan Dante. Dont take it the wrong way. Im still planning on being there if Im not in Virginia by then, I've also got quite a few other friends looking forward to it cuz thats all he can talk about, right now we are walling his Taraus with 6 12's. Also you know my number Joe if you thought I was being a jackass you should've called me.

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 02:53 AM
double post

Pyro_By_Nature
01-23-2009, 07:00 AM
Yo Joe, long time no talk. You still running the mojos?

PBateman
01-23-2009, 04:46 PM
Hmmm...C-mag and a Trijicon ACOG, Yummy. :D

duece212
01-23-2009, 04:50 PM
Hmmm...C-mag and a Trijicon ACOG, Yummy. :D

get some new toys?

n/m, I fail at noticing avatars...haha

2loudcrew
01-23-2009, 05:43 PM
Maybe I over exaggerated, and the shows aren't that "Big" as far as competitiors entered. The place is usually packed but with show cars. They have got a lot bigger over the past 2~3years, but what Im more getting at is its not a fair competition, the way the rules are for that show are not DB Drag racing rules as far as outlaw goes, and you out of anyone should know that. Also if I remeber correctly John B. the guy with the Ecsort was up against Will Carr as well and not only did he have way more power he also had you as his mentor basically and your crew helped him through everything as I remember Will telling me when we were drinking together. I remember it being not fair at all. John also asked you how could that be fair, and you said " I dont put you up against the other competitiors, the computer does it accordingly". I think if you are doing certain rules which your trying to keep even and just to make it seem fair, then outlaw should not be allowed and the mic should have to be at the dash. Only reason Will won was because he was able to play with his trunk open. Since that was allowed I feel I should've been allowed to put my mic in the glove box since thats how I build most pressure. I can see we dont have enough people show up to do real DB Drag rules and I got nothing against you (Joe) by all means cuz I've always turned to you for help when I was doing my blow-through and you out of all people know that well enough. If I needed to "Man up" to something it was over-exaggerating which I admit I did do, but you of all people know that the shows aren't played by real DB Drag rules and are not on the fair side for new competitiors. Metaphoricaly the way it seems to me when someone goes up against someone else they know they can't beat, would be like you going up against Alan Dante. Dont take it the wrong way. Im still planning on being there if Im not in Virginia by then, I've also got quite a few other friends looking forward to it cuz thats all he can talk about, right now we are walling his Taraus with 6 12's. Also you know my number Joe if you thought I was being a jackass you should've called me.

Travis, I NEVER promoted the shows to be DB Drag Racing Events. They are non sanctioned head to head outlaw format competitions. Categories based on number of woofers not wattage. I appreciate your response, but you did question my credibility about my shows. I never ran against 2-10s. Will is on my crew, so yes I give him advice, but there is no way to manipulate the meter.

Because it is outlaw format, windows, doors or trunk can be open and sensor can be placed anywhere in front of the b-pillar. You could have placed it in the glove box, but not in the box like you did at Canon City show. As for bracketing, ask anyone with a termlab and they will tell you computer decides who runs against each other based on qualifying runs. If you do not think the shows or I am not fair, then don't come. Yes I did not call you, but then again you never talked to me about me or my shows being unfair to my face or on the phone. I had to hear it from Steve Willis and on this forum.

2loudcrew
01-23-2009, 05:47 PM
Yo Joe, long time no talk. You still running the mojos?

Brent,

Hope all is well in Fort Morgan. Yes I am still running 2-15" Mojos. I got rid of the Earthquake 20k amp and am running 4-Memphis 4kws. Gained to 158 outlaw and 153.3 on the dash. Maybe I'll see you at a show this year.

Later,

Joe

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 06:34 PM
Thats cool man, as I remember on the flyers sent out it says DB Drag racing. But anyway, no ones credibility was at steak or being challenged for that matter. Only thing I stated was its not an entirely fair competition. Hence 750watts should not be going against 8000watts. Its a garaunteed loss. Also for that incident in Canon City, that was at fault of the idiot in my passenger seat. I told him keep it infront of the pillar and just move it periodicaly to find the best location. He took it upon himself to stick it infront of the port thinking when I said infront of the pillar he thought the seat-belt pillar was the objective. I have a TL as well and I know it retrofits who goes against who once everone has metered. I do also know that they can be re-organized to who should go against who. Only thing I would like to see different is instead of woofer categorized classes there should be power classes ie(500~1000/ 1200~2000). Just a thought, not saying it should be that way. It may be a lot more difficult to organize that way but in the end it would be more head to head. Im still planning on going as Im not putting down the shows at all, however I wont enter since I'll be running 20,000 on 2 15's in my extended cab, which wouldn't be entirely fair at all to the new-comers that do arrive.

The shows are great, the crowds that surround the cars are just amazing! You have plenty of credit as your a 2 time national champ, so how that could question your credibility is beyond me. You're essentialy the Alan Dante of Colorado when you're at a show. The events are fine with me the way they are. And your credit at shows is un-matched to any show in the Colorado Spring and Pueblo area. I'm only voicing what I hear from people that I roll with. Some may or may not own up to it, but I will do it for them. Feel free to ban me from any participation if you think I shouldn't voice what I hear from fellow competitiors. I've told them numerous times to take it up with you and they dont, there's only so much dis-respect I can take before I feel the need to speak up to shut them up.

stevew007
01-23-2009, 06:50 PM
tnt-sounds there is one reason why you cant do power classes and that is becuase the amp manuf is not truthfull with the ratings of the amp.I'm sure you heard of the orion concept 97 1 watt,there is the cliff designs cdx20a 25 watts, almost all the hcca line was cheater amps back in the 80s-90s americanbass 150.1,200.1,400.1,500.1.tell me how would you feel when you go up agianest a guy with 6 concept 97.1's and you have a true 500 watts when the other guy has over 10k. to me competion is competion it's all about who spends the money.
most people get real mad when my crx does a 155 on the dash and there $40k install only does a 145-148.

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 06:59 PM
I know that well enough as my amps are under-rated. But what others dont know won't hurt. Hell I think Mike Sneads' CRX does a 156 at the dash now with his 4 little 10's. All kinds of people were mad that were in his class. My personal opnion is, I really could careless how its organized, I show up to all of them, all the time that Joe has put on. I even encountered airbag problems with my truck and I still made it to the show. The feedback I was recieving from fellow members was just not tolerating me. If I do bring my blow-through I'll be up against Mike and I know I'll lose but its fun for me and I like just being there. Dont take anything I said the wrong way. The shows are a blast and everyone there is very enthusiastic. Its a warm atmosphere there and its an adrenaline rush with the big crowds.

Also Everyone like stevew007, pyro, all you people in the Colorado area need to be there. Its fun and also the food is great.

Pyro_By_Nature
01-23-2009, 07:06 PM
Hopefully this year I can make it down to pueblo for the show.

The way I look at it, no matter how you run a show someone will always find something they don't like about it. It's not really about winning, just having fun and meeting other competitors, seeing other systems, etc.

Although winning is fun too :D

stevew007
01-23-2009, 07:06 PM
I know that well enough as my amps are under-rated. But what others dont know won't hurt. Hell I think Mike Sneads' CRX does a 156 at the dash now with his 4 little 10's. All kinds of people were mad that were in his class. My personal opnion is, I really could careless how its organized, I show up to all of them, all the time that Joe has put on. I even encountered airbag problems with my truck and I still made it to the show. The feedback I was recieving from fellow members was just not tolerating me. If I do bring my blow-through I'll be up against Mike and I know I'll lose but its fun for me and I like just being there. Dont take anything I said the wrong way. The shows are a blast and everyone there is very enthusiastic. Its a warm atmosphere there and its an adrenaline rush with the big crowds.

Also Everyone like stevew007, pyro, all you people in the Colorado area need to be there. Its fun and also the food is great.

well i wouldent worry about that blue crx anymore :crap: but keep an eye out for a couple vans and another crx

2loudcrew
01-23-2009, 07:08 PM
Travis,

We are cool now. You are welcome to come to the shows, but if you or any of your crew have a problem speak up then. I am open to discuss ways to make the shows better. Majority like going with cone area instead of wattage. If there were enough competitors then we could go by both wattage and number of woofers. You can compete at the show. You can run in the 3-up woofer category if you do not want to run in the 2-15 to 2-18 category.

stevew007
01-23-2009, 07:16 PM
Hopefully this year I can make it down to pueblo for the show.

The way I look at it, no matter how you run a show someone will always find something they don't like about it. It's not really about winning, just having fun and meeting other competitors, seeing other systems, etc.

Although winning is fun too :D


it is all about having fun that is why i stopped doing street-a :D
but i will tell you i still gun for the big boys and the big trophies :greedy:

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 07:56 PM
I would try to bring both cars:
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg317/thumpster_18/trucklowered.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg317/thumpster_18/newtruck2.jpg

But I dont think I could drive both. I'll more than likely bring ol' faithful and 3 or 4 other guys in my area.

What happened to Mikes Rex?

PBateman
01-23-2009, 08:00 PM
I know that well enough as my amps are under-rated. But what others dont know won't hurt. Hell I think Mike Sneads' CRX does a 156 at the dash now with his 4 little 10's. All kinds of people were mad that were in his class. My personal opnion is, I really could careless how its organized, I show up to all of them, all the time that Joe has put on. I even encountered airbag problems with my truck and I still made it to the show. The feedback I was recieving from fellow members was just not tolerating me. If I do bring my blow-through I'll be up against Mike and I know I'll lose but its fun for me and I like just being there. Dont take anything I said the wrong way. The shows are a blast and everyone there is very enthusiastic. Its a warm atmosphere there and its an adrenaline rush with the big crowds.

Also Everyone like stevew007, pyro, all you people in the Colorado area need to be there. Its fun and also the food is great.

Not at the dash and Mike sold his rex.

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 08:03 PM
Wow really? Actually last I met up with him in springs he had 2 IA 40.1's on them and was doing 156 at the dash and a 158 in the kick. This was last year around July

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 08:32 PM
uh who gives a ****. Bring what you have. Colorado is not competitive just a big family that helps out one another when they need it. Hell I remember when I went to the first show, got some pointers and happy with what i got. Colorado will expand but people are lazy to come and help expand this hobby in co

duece212
01-23-2009, 08:37 PM
uh who gives a ****. Bring what you have. Colorado is not competitive just a big family that helps out one another when they need it. Hell I remember when I went to the first show, got some pointers and happy with what i got. Colorado will expand but people are lazy to come and help expand this hobby in co

:hide:

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 08:38 PM
:hide:

lol. Naw people can't and can. It ***** when they can't come and help out with the show

stevew007
01-23-2009, 08:40 PM
:hide:

:hilariou:

shakinghorizons
01-23-2009, 08:42 PM
I'm workin on trying to get more people to come, competing or not, but if they actually show up is the real question. :uhoh:

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 08:43 PM
I'm workin on trying to get more people to come, competing or not, but if they actually show up is the real question. :uhoh:

wow you posted amazing. Get your *** down to the show so i can see civic finally haha :p:

stevew007
01-23-2009, 08:46 PM
I'm workin on trying to get more people to come, competing or not, but if they actually show up is the real question. :uhoh:

dude the window flex on the honda is sick :wow:
I'm going to design some kind of deflection gauge to use at the show's.i'll call it flexin lol

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 08:47 PM
dude the window flex on the honda is sick :wow:

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

shakinghorizons
01-23-2009, 08:49 PM
dude the window flex on the honda is sick :wow:
I'm going to design some kind of deflection gauge to use at the show's.i'll call it flexin lol

lmao, if only my car was actually made of real metal and not a 1/16 of an inch sheet metal i wouldn't have the flex :laugh:

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 08:51 PM
I know at least 6 people that are going to come. Also Jason from Drive In got some new **** in his new Grand Prix and I think justin Rodemeyer was talking about walling his Ranger

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 08:51 PM
lmao, if only my car was actually made of real metal and not a 1/16 of an inch sheet metal i wouldn't have the flex :laugh:

haha :D
I know the feeling. Gotta reseal windshield and no more back handle on the hatch haha

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 08:51 PM
Got any vids?

stevew007
01-23-2009, 09:04 PM
Got any vids?

yeah you got any vids of that lame system nismo

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 09:06 PM
yeah you got any vids of that lame system nismo

might. Night vids only

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 09:07 PM
I wanna see!

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 09:13 PM
its only a pathfinder no biggy haha

stevew007
01-23-2009, 09:27 PM
its only a pathfinder no biggy haha

yeah no crap wheres the vids tomek

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 09:27 PM
first song is wet dolpin chopped screwed- 26hz
young joc-34hzish
thats a epic 150 not 160 lol
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/nismofreak18/th_Subs-1.jpg (http://s159.photobucket.com/albums/t141/nismofreak18/?action=view&current=Subs-1.flv)

TnT_Sounds
01-23-2009, 09:37 PM
Pretty nice... Whats your setup?

stevew007
01-23-2009, 09:41 PM
tomek you suc your install sux you have no game and a ***** magnet in your butt

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 10:20 PM
tomek you suc your install sux you have no game and a ***** magnet in your butt
you like to go up and down on a stick :p:

PBateman
01-23-2009, 11:38 PM
first song is wet dolpin chopped screwed- 26hz
young joc-34hzish
thats a epic 150 not 160 lol

**** smelly coils. :crying:

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 11:39 PM
first song is wet dolpin chopped screwed- 26hz
young joc-34hzish
thats a epic 150 not 160 lol

**** smelly coils. :crying:

not any more. Tunned the amps a bit. LOl you can smell if you want to

PBateman
01-23-2009, 11:43 PM
not any more. Tunned the amps a bit. LOl you can smell if you want to

That does not even make any sense Tomek. :crazy:

Nismofreak
01-23-2009, 11:47 PM
That does not even make any sense Tomek. :crazy:
Its does dufus

Pyro_By_Nature
01-23-2009, 11:50 PM
LOl you can smell if you want to

:wow:

Nismofreak
01-24-2009, 12:12 AM
nm
my coils smoked because those level 4 can't take a sundown at .5 ohm. Now the coils don't smell since its not enough power for it

PBateman
01-24-2009, 12:16 AM
Tomek = http://www.cornholeportal.com/images/HA%20CornHole1.jpg

hunterw
01-24-2009, 12:17 AM
hate to butt in here but joe you making it to the competition here in farmington. i got me a ext cab mazda truck now . :)

PBateman
01-24-2009, 12:27 AM
I'm workin on trying to get more people to come, competing or not, but if they actually show up is the real question. :uhoh:

That window flex is insane! Can you post up some pics of your setup?

Nismofreak
01-24-2009, 12:28 AM
Tomek = http://www.cornholeportal.com/images/HA%20CornHole1.jpg

you equal=EPIC FAIL!!!
Go drive you gay beatle

PBateman
01-24-2009, 12:32 AM
Furry polish hats? ;)

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg318/Splwerx/Furrypolishhat.jpg

Nismofreak
01-24-2009, 12:36 AM
No comment
hahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 01:05 AM
Wow!!!!!

2loudcrew
01-24-2009, 01:07 AM
hate to butt in here but joe you making it to the competition here in farmington. i got me a ext cab mazda truck now . :)

Hunter,

Hope to make it for the USACi show in Farmington. I hear that you have been putting up big numbers. Is this in your Mazda? How many RD subs are you running. Looking forward to checking it out.

hunterw
01-24-2009, 01:16 AM
Hunter,

Hope to make it for the USACi show in Farmington. I hear that you have been putting up big numbers. Is this in your Mazda? How many RD subs are you running. Looking forward to checking it out.


yeah its in my mazda truck :)

3 15s and soon to be 2 d9 amps :) maybe touching 159s

PBateman
01-24-2009, 01:19 AM
I know at least 6 people that are going to come. Also Jason from Drive In got some new **** in his new Grand Prix and I think justin Rodemeyer was talking about walling his Ranger


To the feb. 15th show?

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 02:18 AM
No.. the po-folk I know won't drive that far either. I ment the one in Pueblo.. Sorry to de-rail the thread

b4ss_h34d
01-24-2009, 11:54 AM
I hope to make it..this is what i have...

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/?action=view&current=jeep-1.jpg

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/?action=view&current=powerbass.jpg

I don't have a pic of my amp but its a xa-1500

b4ss_h34d
01-24-2009, 11:55 AM
I hope to make it..

This is what I have..
i dont have a pic of my amp but is a xa-1500

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/jeep-1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/powerbass.jpg

Sorry about the post right b4 this one. the links weren't working and i didnt know i could edit it. So just ignore it :D

shakinghorizons
01-24-2009, 02:51 PM
Can you post up some pics of your setup?

I can work on that today, i could have some up by tonight probably.

hunterw
01-24-2009, 04:06 PM
I hope to make it..

This is what I have..
i dont have a pic of my amp but is a xa-1500

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/jeep-1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/powerbass.jpg

Sorry about the post right b4 this one. the links weren't working and i didnt know i could edit it. So just ignore it :D

i am hoping to see you there D'angelo. :)

Nismofreak
01-24-2009, 06:06 PM
I hope to make it..

This is what I have..
i dont have a pic of my amp but is a xa-1500

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/jeep-1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/powerbass.jpg

Sorry about the post right b4 this one. the links weren't working and i didnt know i could edit it. So just ignore it :D

nice man to see you post up what you got. can't wait to see it at the show :)

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 06:35 PM
I hope to make it..

This is what I have..
i dont have a pic of my amp but is a xa-1500

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/jeep-1.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff169/krazibabi_15/powerbass.jpg

Sorry about the post right b4 this one. the links weren't working and i didnt know i could edit it. So just ignore it :D

Whats up man! You remember me from the Cinco De Mayo show last year? You went agaisnt me with that setup.. I got the white F150 with a blow-through. Did have 2 12's but now will have six.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg317/thumpster_18/trucklowered2.jpg

b4ss_h34d
01-24-2009, 08:06 PM
ya i hope to make it to both shows.. i have 2 12" powerbass 2xls powered by a xa1500.. last time metered i did a 143 with 1 12".. and i just have a kinetic 1800 under the hood... thats about it in my set up.... ya man i remember.. u took 2nd i think right?... lol thanks for lending me your cd... you were doin some crazy numbers that day man what do you do??

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 08:32 PM
Cool Cool... I think I did a 149.2 @ 35~36hz on my second run. Final run was a 148.x and wouldn't budge. My box was more for daily pounding though tuned around 31hz

PBateman
01-24-2009, 08:36 PM
Cool Cool... I think I did a 149.2 @ 35~36hz on my second run. Final run was a 148.x and wouldn't budge. My box was more for daily pounding though tuned around 31hz


Great numbers for a daily box! :eek: That was the two btl's correct?

PBateman
01-24-2009, 08:38 PM
I can work on that today, i could have some up by tonight probably.

That would be great. I've always liked loud trunk cars.

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 08:41 PM
Great numbers for a daily box! :eek: That was the two btl's correct?

Yea, with 2 modded Hifonics XX Colossus II.. Also that score was in the kick and driver side door open

PBateman
01-24-2009, 08:46 PM
Yea, with 2 modded Hifonics XX Colossus II.. Also that score was in the kick and driver side door open

What did it do on the dash sealed?

TnT_Sounds
01-24-2009, 08:48 PM
Never tried it.. Im pretty sure it would **** though. I dont build for SPL so my guess would be less than a 145

b4ss_h34d
01-24-2009, 09:02 PM
i wanted to see a hair trick but that girl didn't wanna leave her head in the truck hu... she kept getting all scared

stevew007
01-24-2009, 09:12 PM
hey b4ss h34d have you lived in denver or came to any shows in denver?? because there was a couple guy's that had shirts with that same avitar you have

Nismofreak
01-24-2009, 11:07 PM
lol. My car is to quite

b4ss_h34d
01-25-2009, 12:19 AM
ya i've went to shows there but never lived there... i went to one in my cherokee and i'm not sure if i had the decal on my windshield still or if it was already moved to the back... and i most likely had my shirt on too... my bro in law went with me to that show.. he had a red grand am with spinners and had W7s in the back....he had a decal on his windshield... i went to another show alone in a silver honda accordwith a tore up body kit(ran into problems on my way up to denver).. i had a decal on the windshield on that one...

Mattd0344
01-25-2009, 01:03 AM
I can work on that today, i could have some up by tonight probably.

X2...are your 15's subs up?

TnT_Sounds
01-25-2009, 01:39 AM
i wanted to see a hair trick but that girl didn't wanna leave her head in the truck hu... she kept getting all scared

Ya, that chick was a hoser! She was fawkin hot though :D I almost got her number but my other team mate was already with her

PBateman
01-25-2009, 02:32 AM
X2...are your 15's subs up?

You going to be at the show?

Mattd0344
01-25-2009, 03:22 AM
yep..gona preregister if that is still going on? bringing a friend too, his first comp.

d-REW
01-25-2009, 04:19 AM
when was the preregistration again i remmeber lenny was saying a few weeks or so before the show but i dont remmeber the date he was also saying something about a test night as well.

PBateman
01-25-2009, 05:19 AM
yep..gona preregister if that is still going on? bringing a friend too, his first comp.

Excellent! The more people that show up the more shows there will be.

PBateman
01-25-2009, 05:26 AM
when was the preregistration again i remmeber lenny was saying a few weeks or so before the show but i dont remmeber the date he was also saying something about a test night as well.


I'm not sure about the test night, nismofreak might chime in on that tomorrow. If you would like to get metered before the 15th. to tweak your setup I have a TL as well as steve007. PM one of us and maybe we can help out.

ALL THAT BASS
01-25-2009, 11:31 AM
Whats happinin everyone? Just wanted to let everyone know I will be at the Feb 15th show. I still aint changed anything in the Burban... I wanted to make some changes, but the boss man said no.. and when all is said and done, he signs my check so, I'll be up there with the same old Kicker system doin the same old little numbers as before. Maybe next year I will be able to change it around some. :)

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 12:05 PM
I'm not sure about the test night, nismofreak might chime in on that tomorrow. If you would like to get metered before the 15th. to tweak your setup I have a TL as well as steve007. PM one of us and maybe we can help out.
Yah Lenard said you can so the the ultimate in Thornton to get your car metered and preregistered, call them up and talk to lenard that you wanna use the tl and he will give you a date and time you can come

shakinghorizons
01-25-2009, 01:28 PM
Cant figure out how to blow up the pictures to large size, but i can get up the thumb nails.

I still need to do ALOT of cleaning, its a pig pen in my car. Maybe i should of cleaned it when it was nice the last 4 or 5 days :uhoh: don't mind all the great stuff splattered all over in my trunk haha

How much snow you guys in denver get today?

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 01:29 PM
little snow.lol your right about cleaning it up

shakinghorizons
01-25-2009, 01:31 PM
little snow.lol your right about cleaning it up

Haha i almost didn't post cause of that, oh well :rolleyes:

stevew007
01-25-2009, 01:37 PM
Haha i almost didn't post cause of that, oh well :rolleyes:

looks just like any other spl car :D reminds me of this primered honda:greedy:

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 01:42 PM
Haha i almost didn't post cause of that, oh well :rolleyes:

lol. Atleast put the civic to good use.....SPL!

Mattd0344
01-25-2009, 02:25 PM
Cant figure out how to blow up the pictures to large size, but i can get up the thumb nails.

I still need to do ALOT of cleaning, its a pig pen in my car. Maybe i should of cleaned it when it was nice the last 4 or 5 days :uhoh: don't mind all the great stuff splattered all over in my trunk haha

How much snow you guys in denver get today?

tight fitting in those civics...hopefully by this summer ill have two 15's in my civic as well. what mic was your 148 on?

stevew007
01-25-2009, 02:46 PM
well i started well gulp a build log
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5747911#post5747911

shakinghorizons
01-25-2009, 03:09 PM
tight fitting in those civics...hopefully by this summer ill have two 15's in my civic as well. what mic was your 148 on?

Just a 12v plug in one colin/got focus? sold to me its a model dbm-2 from www.splmeter.com, i know its not 100 percent accurate, so i'm around that area im hoping. :crap: But definately louder than last year. We'll see for sure on the 15th!

Mattd0344
01-25-2009, 04:24 PM
Just a 12v plug in one colin/got focus? sold to me its a model dbm-2 from www.splmeter.com, i know its not 100 percent accurate, so i'm around that area im hoping. :crap: But definately louder than last year. We'll see for sure on the 15th!

For sure..I'm anxious to see what my new setup will do. Only had type r's at the other comps

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 04:25 PM
12 volt plugs aren't off

stevew007
01-25-2009, 04:27 PM
12 volt plugs aren't off

huh?

PBateman
01-25-2009, 04:32 PM
huh?

It's a polish thang man, you would not understand. :smokin:

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 04:32 PM
Just a 12v plug in one colin/got focus? sold to me its a model dbm-2 from www.splmeter.com, i know its not 100 percent accurate, so i'm around that area im hoping. :crap: But definately louder than last year. We'll see for sure on the 15th!


huh?
He said it isn't accurate when it is

PBateman
01-25-2009, 04:38 PM
He said it isn't accurate when it is

Polish are not, that makes no ******* sense.

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 04:40 PM
Polish are not, that makes no ******* sense.

**** a **** and jump on a stick ireland :p:

Pyro_By_Nature
01-25-2009, 05:36 PM
If anyone needs to use a meter before the show let me know.

stevew007
01-25-2009, 05:54 PM
If anyone needs to use a meter before the show let me know.

I do I do :D

duece212
01-25-2009, 05:59 PM
If anyone needs to use a meter before the show let me know.

I might have to head out that way since I was a cheap *** and sold off the meter I had. That is if I can get things done sooner than the morning of the show like I usually do.

Pyro_By_Nature
01-25-2009, 06:11 PM
Well, better get to work :p:

I'd take my own advice, but even if I got my new box built I won't have a new wheel/tire for the camaro before the show. Still need to work on my friends car though.

duece212
01-25-2009, 06:15 PM
I don't have squat to do, but I am probably the laziest/slowest person out there. This weather isn't helping my ambition much either

Pyro_By_Nature
01-25-2009, 06:17 PM
Yeah this bitter cold *****, was gonna build a box today but **** that.

stevew007
01-25-2009, 06:18 PM
I don't have squat to do, but I am probably the laziest/slowest person out there. This weather isn't helping my ambition much either

I was out working on my van @ 7 am this morning :p:

duece212
01-25-2009, 06:22 PM
I was out working on my van @ 7 am this morning :p:

**** man, sundays are for sleepin in :laugh:

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 06:24 PM
I was out working on my van @ 7 am this morning :p:

lol was working on my car to......*******! :p:

PBateman
01-25-2009, 06:29 PM
I don't have squat to do, but I am probably the laziest/slowest person out there. This weather isn't helping my ambition much either

I'm up there with you on that. It seems like I have yet to finish a complete system. :crap: I would say you need to hold on to your stuff for more than a week to even get it done. ;)

duece212
01-25-2009, 06:30 PM
I'm up there with you on that. It seems like I have yet to finish a complete system. :crap: I would say you need to hold on to your stuff for more than a week to even get it done. ;)

I can't be sure, but you might be onto something :laugh:

Was worried about job longevity recently...then got notified of a promotion friday...makes no sense. Oh well, cheaper is alright with me currently

b4ss_h34d
01-25-2009, 10:03 PM
gotta admit i was up @ 7 too today workin on my car...that makes 3 of us

hunterw
01-25-2009, 10:14 PM
I'm up there with you on that. It seems like I have yet to finish a complete system. :crap: I would say you need to hold on to your stuff for more than a week to even get it done. ;)

i dont think i have ever heard of you finishing anything lol.

PBateman
01-25-2009, 10:33 PM
i dont think i have ever heard of you finishing anything lol.

One day buddy, one day.:cool:

hunterw
01-25-2009, 10:39 PM
lol

Nismofreak
01-25-2009, 10:45 PM
One day buddy, one day.:cool:

like never

hunterw
01-25-2009, 10:49 PM
One day buddy, one day.:cool:

i believe that when me **** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert

stevew007
01-25-2009, 11:08 PM
i believe that when me **** turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert

say it again say it again LOL

04yzfr1
01-25-2009, 11:10 PM
i need a new batt for the front.. any one got one.. kinetic, powermaster, something that has high output

stevew007
01-25-2009, 11:15 PM
i need a new batt for the front.. any one got one.. kinetic, powermaster, something that has high output

try pbateman and duece212

duece212
01-25-2009, 11:18 PM
i need a new batt for the front.. any one got one.. kinetic, powermaster, something that has high output

Ive got a new powermaster 3100 I'll let go super cheap if I don't have to drive far:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378454


try pbateman and duece212

Thanks for lookin out man

04yzfr1
01-25-2009, 11:20 PM
thanks i dont know if i can get that in front but just might have to get it for the rear will pm you as soon as i get the cash

duece212
01-25-2009, 11:23 PM
thanks i dont know if i can get that in front but just might have to get it for the rear will pm you as soon as i get the cash

Right on man, I don't really need it, but if nobody buys it I will be using it for the show on the 15th

04yzfr1
01-25-2009, 11:27 PM
will hit you up in about a week for it but i do want it, how far north are you

duece212
01-25-2009, 11:33 PM
will hit you up in about a week for it but i do want it, how far north are you

I'm in Greeley, if you end up grabbin it we could meet up somewhere on I-25 or something

PBateman
01-26-2009, 12:10 AM
i need a new batt for the front.. any one got one.. kinetic, powermaster, something that has high output

What size battery will fit under your hood? I have an extra kinetik and odyssey.

2loudcrew
01-26-2009, 12:17 AM
i need a new batt for the front.. any one got one.. kinetic, powermaster, something that has high output

I have 5 Kinetik 2400 for $200 each. I live in Pueblo, but travel up and down I-25 for work. Could delivery anywhere from Pueblo up to Fort Collins.

PBateman
01-26-2009, 01:01 AM
I have 5 Kinetik 2400 for $200 each. I live in Pueblo, but travel up and down I-25 for work. Could delivery anywhere from Pueblo up to Fort Collins.

If you don't mind me asking what batts are you going to be running.

04yzfr1
01-26-2009, 11:33 AM
What size battery will fit under your hood? I have an extra kinetik and odyssey.

if i mod the batt box i might get a 2400 but i think i can get a 2000. right now have a optima yellow in front and is very tight

shakinghorizons
01-26-2009, 05:36 PM
I have 5 Kinetik 2400 for $200 each. I live in Pueblo, but travel up and down I-25 for work. Could delivery anywhere from Pueblo up to Fort Collins.

Im interested in one i have been looking for one can you give me some more info on them please?

2loudcrew
01-26-2009, 09:07 PM
If you don't mind me asking what batts are you going to be running.

I am going to try out SVR. They are supposed to be good for street beat(Extended discharge). Hope they work or else I will have to buy 6 new Kinetiks. I have had great experience with Kinetik.

2loudcrew
01-26-2009, 09:12 PM
Im interested in one i have been looking for one can you give me some more info on them please?

Two are almost new. I put them in one week prior to USACi Finals and they have been sitting since then. The other three are less than one year old. All sit idle at 13.2-13.3 volts. I always trickle charge them with Kinetik charger and have 50 farad capacitor to help preserve their wear. Let me know if you want one. I can bring it up to Fort Collins in the next week or so. I was actually at CSU today.

shakinghorizons
01-26-2009, 09:23 PM
Two are almost new. I put them in one week prior to USACi Finals and they have been sitting since then. The other three are less than one year old. All sit idle at 13.2-13.3 volts. I always trickle charge them with Kinetik charger and have 50 farad capacitor to help preserve their wear. Let me know if you want one. I can bring it up to Fort Collins in the next week or so. I was actually at CSU today.

Ill take one. pm you my number, call me and ill give you my whereabouts im in denver often.

got_focus?
01-26-2009, 10:15 PM
I have 5 Kinetik 2400 for $200 each. I live in Pueblo, but travel up and down I-25 for work. Could delivery anywhere from Pueblo up to Fort Collins.


Im interested in one i have been looking for one can you give me some more info on them please?

Josh, I will vouch for this cat

2loudcrew
01-26-2009, 10:26 PM
Josh, I will vouch for this cat

Thanks man.

stevew007
01-26-2009, 10:30 PM
meow.

so what kind of cat would you be joe??

Nismofreak
01-26-2009, 11:37 PM
so what kind of cat would you be joe??

lol :D

2loudcrew
01-27-2009, 12:12 AM
so what kind of cat would you be joe??

Gato Loco!!!

Nismofreak
01-27-2009, 05:41 PM
Gato Loco!!!

haha lol :laugh:

TnT_Sounds
01-28-2009, 02:16 AM
SVR batts are the same as the Deka 9A31's and Odyssey alike batteries.. Right? CarQuest sells them SVR's and they look identical to mine

stevew007
01-28-2009, 08:01 AM
SVR batts are the same as the Deka 9A31's and Odyssey alike batteries.. Right? CarQuest sells them SVR's and they look identical to mine

I hear the ones at carquest are cheaper

2loudcrew
01-28-2009, 11:00 AM
These are actually new line of batteries, new to the market SVR Platinum Series. Same size as Kinetik 2400, but 3100 amps and extended discharge. I hope they work or else I will have to buy new Kinetiks. Still have 4 2400s left for sale at $200 a piece. Here is more info on the new battery.

www.12volt.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2213&Itemid=88889921

Mattd0344
01-28-2009, 04:41 PM
I hear the ones at carquest are cheaper

the carquest ngt extreme is a rebadged deka...went there and found that NG3478 was $170 at my local carquest while the Deka 9A78DT (both the same exact group 34 batteries with gm side posts) was just $130 at East PENN Deka in denver.

shakinghorizons
01-28-2009, 06:40 PM
Is this the "Gato Loco"???

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LwE4uV3rf68/Ru_3hXF460I/AAAAAAAAAcQ/-d8O2YQctkk/s320/worlds-ugliest-cat.jpg

2loudcrew
01-28-2009, 06:52 PM
Is this the "Gato Loco"???

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_LwE4uV3rf68/Ru_3hXF460I/AAAAAAAAAcQ/-d8O2YQctkk/s320/worlds-ugliest-cat.jpg

**** Josh,

Thats more like the Gato Diablo! That pic is scary.

shakinghorizons
01-28-2009, 07:01 PM
**** Josh,

Thats more like the Gato Diablo! That pic is scary.

You know that you would like that lil' kitty kitty to come up on your bed and snuggle with you all night. . . its hairless, kinda, you know you could use the extra warmth and the love! :sick:

Nismofreak
01-30-2009, 11:36 AM
You know that you would like that lil' kitty kitty to come up on your bed and snuggle with you all night. . . its hairless, kinda, you know you could use the extra warmth and the love! :sick:

your a *** :p::laugh:

Nismofreak
01-31-2009, 01:02 AM
well idk if i will make for show since my alt broke. If this dush fixes my alt( better or gonna give him a hell of a time) then i might make it for the show

stevew007
01-31-2009, 08:52 AM
well idk if i will make for show since my alt broke. If this dush fixes my alt( better or gonna give him a hell of a time) then i might make it for the show

use a charger and put the stock alt back in :crying: at least you have woofers I have no wooooooffffffeeerrrrssss:wow:

Nismofreak
01-31-2009, 10:34 AM
use a charger and put the stock alt back in :crying: at least you have woofers I have no wooooooffffffeeerrrrssss:wow:

stock alt broke to. Charges at 16 volts haha :laugh:

shakinghorizons
01-31-2009, 02:07 PM
Go to autozone and pick up a stock one and when your done return it, i have done it three times now, no questions asked. Had to send back my EA way too many times. :mad:

duece212
01-31-2009, 02:11 PM
Go to autozone and pick up a stock one and when your done return it, i have done it three times now, no questions asked. Had to send back my EA way too many times. :mad:

there is always a creative solution to every problem :)

Nismofreak
01-31-2009, 10:59 PM
um its fixed. the plug on the alt is busted so fixed it and works like new

stevew007
01-31-2009, 11:39 PM
um its fixed. the plug on the alt is busted so fixed it and works like new

hack:p:

Nismofreak
02-01-2009, 11:22 PM
can this show not come anytime sooner....WAAA lol

Mattd0344
02-01-2009, 11:38 PM
when is the last day you can preregister again?

Nismofreak
02-01-2009, 11:44 PM
idk didn't talk to him

Nismofreak
02-02-2009, 06:15 PM
More news
Preregistration is till the 10th
Its 20 for both when preregistered
Its 15 each if you come to the show
10% discount for other entries if you want if you preregister
Pratice bass race and db drag as much as you want till the show if you preregister

Mattd0344
02-02-2009, 06:21 PM
More news
Preregistration is till the 10th
Its 20 for both when preregistered
Its 15 each if you come to the show
10% discount for other entries if you want if you preregister
Pratice bass race and db drag as much as you want till the show if you preregister

niiice. thanks man

GAM3OVR
02-04-2009, 03:42 AM
Are you serious?????


Sunday. The only ******* weekend I can't make.

This pisses me off.......

Also steve, did you ever get that kinetik POS to work?