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fast85_gt
12-26-2008, 09:26 PM
whats the best glue for making boxes that need to be well built for spl use ive been told liquad nails but whats best?

bonesninja
12-26-2008, 09:27 PM
titebond or elmers probond

JimJ
12-26-2008, 09:29 PM
I've had good luck with Titebond II/III and Elmer's.

ahillworks
12-26-2008, 09:30 PM
Ive always used this one.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/photos/98500-98599/98561.gif

KHARPS
12-26-2008, 09:30 PM
titebond II is my glue of choice

ahillworks
12-26-2008, 09:32 PM
Titebond seems to better though. Guess I will get that next week. It curs in 10 minutes.

Pioneer~Saturn
12-26-2008, 09:32 PM
Titebond II is what I will always use :)

fast85_gt
12-26-2008, 09:34 PM
where can i get titghtbond II

JimJ
12-26-2008, 09:34 PM
Titebond seems to better though. Guess I will get that next week. It curs in 10 minutes.

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I let wood glue cure overnight before removing clamps. I've found it takes time to really get to full strength...

germandark
12-26-2008, 09:34 PM
construction wood adhesive, in "caulk" tubes. its stronger than the material ur box will be built from. or pro bound or tite bond.

KHARPS
12-26-2008, 09:34 PM
home depot

JimJ
12-26-2008, 09:34 PM
where can i get titghtbond II

Most home improvement/hardware stores should carry it...Lowe's, Home Depot, etc.

Pioneer~Saturn
12-26-2008, 09:36 PM
Pretty much anywhere that is anything close to decent that has woodglue will have titebond products :)

WalMart might have the best price, havent really checked there but im pretty sure they have it...otherwise home depot is where I get mine

fast85_gt
12-26-2008, 09:38 PM
thanks again and thanks for the fast replys

fast85_gt
12-26-2008, 09:46 PM
is there anywhere you can rent long clamps

JimJ
12-26-2008, 09:47 PM
is there anywhere you can rent long clamps

My only guess would be to ask on Craigslist, if there are any local woodworkers around who would be willing.

But clamp adapters for pipes are cheap, pick up some threaded iron pipe and you've got yourself a custom set of clamps you can make however long you want...

fast85_gt
12-26-2008, 09:49 PM
My only guess would be to ask on Craigslist, if there are any local woodworkers around who would be willing.

But clamp adapters for pipes are cheap, pick up some threaded iron pipe and you've got yourself a custom set of clamps you can make however long you want...

thats a cool ideal

ahillworks
12-26-2008, 10:12 PM
Maybe I'm paranoid, but I let wood glue cure overnight before removing clamps. I've found it takes time to really get to full strength...

No your not I do the same. But it helps with the speed of the build if your not having to wait for the clamps to be there all day. =)

HarborFrieght.com carrys it at a low cost and they carry titebond 3 which is stronger than 2.

Pioneer~Saturn
12-26-2008, 10:16 PM
Yea, I like to leave them on atleast overnight to make sure

ahillworks
12-26-2008, 10:24 PM
In the good old saying you can never be to careful right! =)

scarolinablazin
12-27-2008, 02:44 PM
i heard titebond 3 *****. then again the guy that told me that is a custom cabinet/furniture maker. not like he would know more than a kid on a car audio forum.

fast85_gt
12-27-2008, 05:37 PM
so what do i get titebond II/III

roarzorz
12-28-2008, 11:03 AM
In my experiences Liquid Nails > TiteBond. I also hate how runny TiteBond is. Now Gorilla Glue is good but I don't like working with that stuff either so it's Liquid Nails for me all the way when building boxes.

ahillworks
12-28-2008, 01:28 PM
Dang now its turning into a debate lol Here lets do a poll that may help you out some. I update this post with a link I will make.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373581

roarzorz
12-28-2008, 05:40 PM
A poll is useless. Just like this site you'll get a bunch of people voting for one thing just because it's what they know from hearsay even though they don't actually know anything about it. I bet most of the people in this thread that say TiteBond is better haven't actually used anything else. You'd get better results from a coin toss.

Random1010
12-28-2008, 05:43 PM
Gorilla Glue is not ideal. It expands as it dries which isn't great for a flush joint.. Liquid Nails is NOT as strong as Titebond. I tried TB 1,2, and 3 and found 2 to be the easiest to work with and has the best results.

gotparts90
12-29-2008, 03:15 AM
titebond 3 om mdf 2 on plywood. I like screws if I have to take clamps off early or brads only if i can overnight them. Liquid nails under drywall going on the ceiling or under paneling on the wall but not on speaker boxes. Liquid nails has no real place in a joint on a speaker box.

edit I always use screw with plywood

mlstrass
12-29-2008, 10:40 AM
I've built a ton of enclosures the past 3-4 years and have also broken apart several to see how the glue joints held up. Gorilla glue and liquid nails did NOT hold up at all and I'll NEVER use them again.

TBII or Elmer's Pro is all I use as they make a strong bond. I've seen a few boxes repeatedly kicked to make them fit into the trunk and they held up fine.

roarzorz
12-29-2008, 12:19 PM
I've done the same tests breaking joints apart and Liquid Nails held better than TiteBond. Just shows that different people have different experiences.

itsbmw
12-29-2008, 09:34 PM
My first time building a box today. we just used what we had. It was titebond tho :cool:

My only question is if we cut the holes for the sub correctly. Cause we cut out 12" diameter holes for 2 12" alpine type Rs. was that the right way cause someone used 11" and Im scared we f***ed up.

JimJ
12-29-2008, 09:37 PM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_4243_Alpine+SWR-1222D+-TYPE+R-.html

At least you'll have a double baffle :D

itsbmw
12-29-2008, 10:42 PM
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_4243_Alpine+SWR-1222D+-TYPE+R-.html

At least you'll have a double baffle :D

So is the hole cut wrong? Cause its 12" diameter cut:confused:

ahillworks
12-29-2008, 11:02 PM
So is the hole cut wrong? Cause its 12" diameter cut:confused:

Might be to big. But as quoted the speaker you have may be ok in a 12" diameter. Just put them in the holes and see. Worse case have to re do the top or put another layer on top.

ahillworks
12-29-2008, 11:05 PM
Cutout Diameter 10.9"
Recommended Enclosure Type Sealed or Vented
Warranty 1-year Sonic Electronix


Yeah may have an issue. You might need to make another layer to place on top of holes you cut already. Thats if you do not feel like taking the box apart if not. Take the part off for the holes and sand it smooth and make a new peace.

itsbmw
12-29-2008, 11:33 PM
Cutout Diameter 10.9"
Recommended Enclosure Type Sealed or Vented
Warranty 1-year Sonic Electronix


Yeah may have an issue. You might need to make another layer to place on top of holes you cut already. Thats if you do not feel like taking the box apart if not. Take the part off for the holes and sand it smooth and make a new peace.

Ok. Thanks.

fast85_gt
12-30-2008, 02:14 AM
ok got glue went with tightbond II now i dont have clamps so can i use weight's till the glue drys

itsbmw
12-30-2008, 10:15 AM
ok got glue went with tightbond II now i dont have clamps so can i use weight's till the glue drys

haha we used titebond screws and weights for the box we made :) Now we gotta wait for the subs to get here to see how the fit in the holes :'(

RAM_Designs
12-30-2008, 08:10 PM
I've used liquid nails and it just didn't do it for me. Titebond II works well, but I use either Dap or GE subfloor adhesive, since I get it free off of job sites I'm working on. :D They bond well enough to where the MDF breaks before the bond does, so that's good enough for me...not to mention it says on the tube that is bonds wet/frozen wood as well.

jdawg
12-30-2008, 08:23 PM
http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/346/best-wood-glue-wood-glue-showdown

jdawg
12-30-2008, 08:24 PM
ok got glue went with tightbond II now i dont have clamps so can i use weight's till the glue drys

i would say you are ****ed

itsbmw
12-30-2008, 10:24 PM
i would say you are ****ed

Cant he use Drywall screws to hold the sides together:confused::confused:

Compjake
12-30-2008, 10:32 PM
I built the box in my moms car with 3/4 MDF, Drywall screws and construction adhesive. and spray adhesive for the carpet..

jdawg
12-30-2008, 10:36 PM
Cant he use Drywall screws to hold the sides together:confused::confused:

oh he used screws, then its ok, you dont need to clamp really, unless you are trying to pull in a board that you cut a lil off