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blackmax
12-17-2008, 10:41 PM
What is better the Boston Pro60 or the Id oem seas combo?

mcsoul
12-17-2008, 10:48 PM
both active?

blackmax
12-17-2008, 10:52 PM
I have 2 sets of pro's in my doors (passive) now. I was just thinking of getting the id's and going active with a pioneer860 and planet audio hvt754. fyi this setup is not in the g35. it is in a 2dr tahoe with 4 15" re se's and 2 aq1200d's

mcsoul
12-17-2008, 10:57 PM
Try the pros active, cross over at about 3.5k

The ID mids are good, but require a 2.5k crossover,
and really want about a 2k. To my ear, higher active
crossover points on a mid that can keep up sound better.

The more of the vocal range that you can keep on the mid
the better to my ears.

IMO the ID mids would be best in a 3 way setup, but by the time
you start dropping the money required to do 3-way right, your options
open up a bit.

blackmax
12-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Thanks mcsoul! How much "better" are the pro's active (as opposed to passive?

mcsoul
12-17-2008, 11:03 PM
Thanks mcsoul! How much "better" are the pro's active (as opposed to passive?

uh...3 times better :laugh:

jk, considerably better.

duece212
12-17-2008, 11:03 PM
My problem with the pro's is I have to cross the woofers high if I pour the power to them :(

mcsoul
12-17-2008, 11:05 PM
My problem with the pro's is I have to cross the woofers high if I pour the power to them :(

tweets break up (get harsh)?

duece212
12-17-2008, 11:08 PM
tweets break up (get harsh)?

I'm talkin about the highpass on the mids. I'm running them on a kicker 550.2 and if I cross them below 90hz they ****. I deadened/sealed the crap outta my doors and sealed the mids good...not sure whats up.

mcsoul
12-17-2008, 11:11 PM
I'm talkin about the highpass on the mids. I'm running them on a kicker 550.2 and if I cross them below 90hz they ****. I deadened/sealed the crap outta my doors and sealed the mids good...not sure whats up.

Ohh! I see.

blackmax
12-17-2008, 11:16 PM
I will go active then. The pros sound great in my g but my custom panels in the ho sound like shat. I think I went a little on the weak side with the glass. I can't cut the sheet metal to enclose the pros because of the window motor. I am experiencing a lot of 200hz distortion (thats what it sounds like). and i just cannot eq it out. any suggestions?

req
12-17-2008, 11:20 PM
how do you know its '200hz' distortion?

AndyInOC
12-17-2008, 11:25 PM
im running my oem's at 3500 with a 24 db slope and they are awesome. amazing what happens with a little eq work

blackmax
12-17-2008, 11:33 PM
It just sounds like an excessively high 200hz spike. when I decrease 200hz on the eq it "quiets" but will not go away. My guess is a flex in the fiberglass which is the mounting side of the drivers.

tcguy85
12-17-2008, 11:45 PM
The ID mids are good, but require a 2.5k crossover,
and really want about a 2k.

IMO the ID mids would be best in a 3 way setup

why do you say that? many people run them higher than 2k or 2.5k.

maloy013
12-18-2008, 12:47 AM
tcguy i really 10x wanna hear ur oems ru guys having a meet soon?:)

tcguy85
12-18-2008, 01:18 AM
tcguy i really 10x wanna hear ur oems ru guys having a meet soon?:)

i would imagine that there will be meets again in the spring.

mcsoul
12-18-2008, 11:51 AM
why do you say that? many people run them higher than 2k or 2.5k.

I'm not trying to dump on id mids at all, I say he should try active with the
pro 60's he has first.

If it sounded that way I apologize. I would be interested to read a full
review of the id oem mids crossed over at 3.5k.

lostdaytomorrow
12-18-2008, 11:26 PM
PRO's have no midbass at high volumes without breakup

jluv
12-19-2008, 05:45 PM
PRO's have no midbass at high volumes without breakup


Put the crack pipe down.

I run my Pro 60s active, with 300 watts each to the mids. They get LOUD and never complain. I normally have them crossed over at around 90hz (I'm not in my vehcile right now to be able to tell you the exact crossover point). But right now I am waiting for my new sub amps and am rolling around without a sub stage, so I've got them crossed over at 63 hz. I was worried that I would have to be really cautious with the volume knob, but they have surprised me with how much power they can handle, even at lower frequencies. I'm geting plenty of midbass. It sounds amazing.

Maybe it's your amps. Maybe it's your install. Maybe it's your tuning. It's not the Bostons causing your lack of midbass. If yours are breaking up at high volumes, you are probably clipping the signal or just sending them garbage (maybe from your head unit or amp, or the source material).

jluv
12-19-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm talkin about the highpass on the mids. I'm running them on a kicker 550.2 and if I cross them below 90hz they ****. I deadened/sealed the crap outta my doors and sealed the mids good...not sure whats up.

Clean power is key. They will handle it. Mine are getting gobs of power and they never complain. Then again, I run mine active. It could be the passive crossovers that are causing the bottleneck.

Run them active and watch them come to life! Just be really careful with the tweets. I have mine crossed over at 3400 hz (I believe) with a 31 db slope. I'm feeding them about 100 watts each, and that's way more than enough.

With 300 each to the mids, it really gets them moving and the midbass is exceptional.

I never ran this set passively, so I can't really say for sure if that's the difference, but I bet it is.

duece212
12-19-2008, 06:11 PM
Kenwood ddx812 through a kicker 550.2, the boston mids just don't hang down low (maybe with rated power they would). If I crossed them around 60 they'd eat it. I have thought about doing that though, then I'd be forced to get some different mids.

jluv
12-19-2008, 06:37 PM
Kenwood ddx812 through a kicker 550.2, the boston mids just don't hang down low (maybe with rated power they would). If I crossed them around 60 they'd eat it. I have thought about doing that though, then I'd be forced to get some different mids.

Ok, in my truck now. I've got my mids HPF at 50 hz and LPF at 3400 hz, both 30 db slope. I'm cranking deftones. Sounds awesome. Insanely loud, very clear. No smell. No audible distortion. A solid 300w to the mids, active. Are you using your passive crossovers? That's gotta be it.

jluv
12-19-2008, 06:47 PM
Jammin outkast now. These things always impress. Not sure how long I could run them like this, but with subs I set the bostons at 71 or 80 hz anyway.