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RetroAudioinc
12-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Ok I have a few questions. NOTE: This is going in a Chevy 2500 with a camper shell window open so all this is going in the bed and to be pointed though the window opening.

I was told today not to mix sub sizes IE 4 18's and 4 12's would be bad. Is this true?

Is it ok to mix brands but same size says I have 4 Pioneer SPL's 12's and 2 RE Audio 12's?
--- Now if the above is ok do you split them on apms Pioneer's on one and the others on another amp.


I am sure the rule is to keep all the same size is best but how or why is it bad to mix sizes, I would think the 18's would give me that super low and the 12's a little faster response or did I just answer my own question there it would sound bad?


I will be using a U.S. AMP VLX-400 Competetion Amplifier for the subs it's rated at 5000 Watts RMS and good to 1/4 OHM so I think it will be the better amp. I also have the Memphis MCD-4KW Mojo 4000 Watt Amplifier and Rockford Fosgate T40001BD so thats what I have to pick from in amps what would be best for what speakers below?


Speakers I have:
18's
4 INCRIMINATOR AUDIO DEATH PENALTY 18"s

15's
2 15" Rockford Fosgate Punch HE2

Or mixing these two together but same sizes and using 2 of the amps above.
2 PIONEER TS-W5102SPL 12's
2 PIONEER PREMIER TS-W3001D4 12's
2 RE Audio SE12D4
4 KICKER CVR12 COMP VR 12"
4 Kicker Solo-Baric L7 Series 12" 2 OHM



I do want to go to SPL comps so I am trying to find the best setup for that so any help would be super.


Thanks
Brad

revrider1
12-06-2008, 06:51 PM
Never mix subs in any way. Id use the IAs if I were you...

infamous_e46
12-06-2008, 06:51 PM
if you have all this nice stuff why would you even ask this question...???


i didnt think the uneducated bought real audio products

RetroAudioinc
12-06-2008, 06:55 PM
if you have all this nice stuff why would you even ask this question...???


i didnt think the uneducated bought real audio products

Because I want to be sure to get it right. Never hurts to ask I have more then this this is just what I am thinking of using. ;)

RetroAudioinc
12-06-2008, 06:56 PM
Is INCRIMINATOR AUDIO ok I had never heard of them but I got 4 of there 18's at cost I could not pass it up. Never seen or hear them, they look good for sure.

revrider1
12-06-2008, 06:57 PM
I dont get it, you have them but never seen them?

Mc_Hammer
12-06-2008, 06:58 PM
you should talk to cotjones

99grandprixGT
12-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Is INCRIMINATOR AUDIO ok I had never heard of them but I got 4 of there 18's at cost I could not pass it up. Never seen or hear them, they look good for sure.

no they **** ill take them for 20 dolalrs.

Hintzyboy
12-06-2008, 07:05 PM
Have you upgraded your electrical system yet? If not, you won't be able to run any of those amps.

RetroAudioinc
12-06-2008, 07:08 PM
I have added a 250AMP alternator and going to add a 2nd one here soon.

No I have not seen the 18's yet just ordered them because of price. I was going to order 2 more of the Pioneer SPL 12's if they were not as good.

Come on guys stop Fing with me. LoL I am just wanting to be sure I kick your butts in SPL comps. hehe

RetroAudioinc
12-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Besides basic stuff and the alternator's I am adding 5 to 10 batteries truck already has 2 under the hood it's a Chevy 2500. So I should end up with total of 7 or 12 batteries total also have caps as well.

GregU
12-07-2008, 03:31 PM
you should talk to cotjones

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

shaneb
12-07-2008, 03:35 PM
typically people don't mix subs because they respond differently to sounds and SQ is not desirable. If you just want to "be loud" then who cares. You wont be listening to real music anyway.
And the thought of "12's being faster" cannot be supported by anything.

NightDrifter05
12-07-2008, 03:35 PM
Based off your responses I find it very hard to believe you have any of the above equipment. But if you really do the IA Death Penalties and a VLX400 would be a awesome setup.

FurbiesAndBeans
12-07-2008, 03:36 PM
i dont get this, u have all this nice stuff and seem to know a lot about car audio, but yet u ask noob question :crap:

anj46907
12-07-2008, 03:40 PM
Is INCRIMINATOR AUDIO ok I had never heard of them but I got 4 of there 18's at cost I could not pass it up. Never seen or hear them, they look good for sure.

from your previous posts it says ure opeing a shop but u dont seem to know much about basic audio. good luck to your shop:(

Random1010
12-07-2008, 06:09 PM
Don't forget to install a quantum flux capacitor for optimal voltage transfusion. Otherwise you could get an antimatter vortex in your port, and we all know thats no good...

CantGetEnufBASS
12-07-2008, 06:16 PM
Based off your responses I find it very hard to believe you have any of the above equipment. But if you really do the IA Death Penalties and a VLX400 would be a awesome setup.

Exactly what i was thinking

kodak314
12-07-2008, 07:03 PM
im callin :bsflag:

pics????

Deusle
12-08-2008, 11:14 AM
i had a 15L7 in my back seat tuned to 35
and a 10" type r in my trunk tuned to 32

and they sounded hella good imo
flexed my doors & windows too

i woulda put the 15 in the trunk tuned to a lower freq but it wouldnt fit >_<

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:24 AM
im callin :bsflag:

pics????


Sure here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230310316805
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150312446923&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

all done under my bike shop Warped Toys NOTE THE USER: WarpedToys-BikeShop


Guy I was just asking never hurts to ask no need to be an #$%.. I own the company hint have the money I am not the installers and the questions are for my own truck..

Bender.
12-09-2008, 12:28 AM
if you have all this nice stuff why would you even ask this question...???


i didnt think the uneducated bought real audio products

my thoughts exactly


Is INCRIMINATOR AUDIO ok I had never heard of them but I got 4 of there 18's at cost I could not pass it up. Never seen or hear them, they look good for sure.

great brand...if you got them at cost you got a great deal


Besides basic stuff and the alternator's I am adding 5 to 10 batteries truck already has 2 under the hood it's a Chevy 2500. So I should end up with total of 7 or 12 batteries total also have caps as well.

dont use caps

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:37 AM
What I ended up going with. We are removing the camper ( wife hates it ) Remove the 60&#37; of the rear seat leave the one on the passenger side in a 2500 crew cab.

Mounting the VLX400 on back wall and right above that for front and rear speakers http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=160301493356 off the 4 Channel side then off the other side 2 Channel we are going to run 6 more mid highs in the head linner one in each front corner right in between the two doors and one at the back corner to give me more highs but still looks clean and good.

For subs since now space is a bit of a factor I am going with 4 TS-W5102SPL ported right in the cab in the 60% of the seat we are removing. :) Should sound great coming off that VLX400.. What do u guys thing?

I though about running them down the center but then I would kind of lose the "stereo" sound I don't think my AVIC-Z3 has a center Channel out put.

I hope the pics above make u guys happy maybe you should not dought people so much. Whammy!!

mazzasec
12-09-2008, 12:40 AM
LOL You should not have those 4 18"s if your asking that kind of question!

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:45 AM
my thoughts exactly



great brand...if you got them at cost you got a great deal



dont use caps

Thanks I think I can now fit like 4 right under the 40% seat left plus I can do 2 big ones under the hood any recommendations for one thats BIG and will fit right in a Chevy 2500 diesel Year 2005.

BTW Any one know where to find a kit to add a 2nd alternator to that truck I thought I found one but no good. I can get the alternator a 250amp so I would have a total of 500amps when over 1000rpm 250 at ideal I think should be good for this set up. But again I own the shop not the tech and well I like to get others feed back hint the reason this forum is even here. ;)

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:46 AM
LOL You should not have those 4 18"s if your asking that kind of question!

What every you should not even be hating... Whammy!!

zack39648
12-09-2008, 12:46 AM
cool now get in the clasifieds of this website and sell all the stuff your not using *(your IA 18's...)

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:49 AM
LOL You should not have those 4 18"s if your asking that kind of question!

Hey better yet since you like to talk I come to ATL a lot let me get my setup in, stop by blow you away.. Why because I ask questions to get input you reply to this post why? Oh yea to get your doors blown off in the end.

Don't play if you don't have the $$$ those 18's are for sale now because I am not even using them. So you want them maybe you can keep up then..

Twistid
12-09-2008, 12:49 AM
I know its generally looked down upon mixing brands of woofers in the same enclosure, but I know someone doing 155's with mixed subs. As it was stated in a thread on another forum, "they're like passive radiators with a motor to help control excursion"

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:51 AM
cool now get in the clasifieds of this website and sell all the stuff your not using *(your IA 18's...)

Good point.. ;) We will be they just shipped today the guy was ut of town. Should be in tomorrow or next day. **** things are 70LBS each UPS hates us. We took up a full truck today.. lol

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:54 AM
Don't forget to install a quantum flux capacitor for optimal voltage transfusion. Otherwise you could get an antimatter vortex in your port, and we all know thats no good...


Hmmmm, nothing better.. Funny hahahaha

I got your flux capacitor flying though your window as I blow them out.. Dare to step up and put up some $$$ if not don't even bother with a reply please it's a waste of everyone's time.

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 12:56 AM
from your previous posts it says ure opeing a shop but u dont seem to know much about basic audio. good luck to your shop:(


I have been around car audio for over 17 years since I was 15 and had 6 rockforgord pro 15's in a lowrider. But thanks for the good luck but these days it's $$$$ and brains that get you some where.

Hint asking questions here, well good idea. Why because there is 64,000+ member to bounce ideas off of does not mean I don't know how or what I am doing. But again Thanks

mlstrass
12-09-2008, 08:15 AM
Hmmmm, nothing better.. Funny hahahaha

I got your flux capacitor flying though your window as I blow them out.. Dare to step up and put up some $$$ if not don't even bother with a reply please it's a waste of everyone's time.

You talk a lot of **** for a guy only running 4 Pio 12's :D It takes a LOT more brains then $$$ to get loud and sound good as you'll find out ;)

Either way good luck with your install and post up some pics when it's done...

Xprime4
12-09-2008, 08:49 AM
I think we finally found who's Cotjones dad :D

RetroAudioinc
12-09-2008, 07:49 PM
You talk a lot of **** for a guy only running 4 Pio 12's :D It takes a LOT more brains then $$$ to get loud and sound good as you'll find out ;)

Either way good luck with your install and post up some pics when it's done...

Hey I did not start it, they did. I just finished it. ;)

I will for sure take pics it should look really good we have 7 of the SPL'S I think I ordered a few to many... lol I don't think I have the air space for more then 4 we are going from floor to roof 60% of the seat gone so we have all that area think 6 might fit.


We have not measured it out yet but 6 would be even more killer but do you think that VLX-400 would be ok pushing all 6 I know it would be on all 4 there RMS is 3000 and Max 6000 watts needs 3 cf I think per speaker.

tristan20
12-24-2008, 03:34 AM
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=warpedtoys-bikeshop&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

You are a scammer, you scammed a friend of mines.

Basically bought a bunch of stuff on ebay, then when the people shipped your payments all bounced. People tried contacting you, and you never reply. Yet you are here posting?

You bought very high priced items and stole from good sellers.
Soon you will be caught

tristan20
12-24-2008, 03:40 AM
retroaudioinc

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=retroaudioinc&completed=1&all=1&rows=25&sort=3

gentlejax
12-24-2008, 10:45 AM
bam....way to go Mr. Lee .....haha

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 12:46 AM
tristan20 you have some nerve.. Did you open a complaint with ebay? I bet you did not because if I did buy anything from you would know who I could not pay.. Don't try and put my name though the mud because something was out of my control due to AMEX being stupid you can even see I paid for over $30,000 worth amps just 2 or 3 months ago on that account on my amex that had $100,000 limit it on it and AMEX put my card under review and I still have not gotten it fixed so you think your little listing fees are bad that you got back, I lost an ebay account for stupid sellers giving sticks when it was total out of my hands and tried to explain the problem was out side of my hands..

Think what you want but I have not scammed anyone and if someone sent me something and I had not paid for it thats not my fault but I have never said I would not make it right..

So email me and ask me something then running your hole in a forum..

oldschool4me
01-25-2009, 01:38 AM
tristan20 you have some nerve.. Did you open a complaint with ebay? I bet you did not because if I did buy anything from you would know who I could not pay.. Don't try and put my name though the mud because something was out of my control due to AMEX being stupid you can even see I paid for over $30,000 worth amps just 2 or 3 months ago on that account on my amex that had $100,000 limit it on it and AMEX put my card under review and I still have not gotten it fixed so you think your little listing fees are bad that you got back, I lost an ebay account for stupid sellers giving sticks when it was total out of my hands and tried to explain the problem was out side of my hands..

Think what you want but I have not scammed anyone and if someone sent me something and I had not paid for it thats not my fault but I have never said I would not make it right..

So email me and ask me something then running your hole in a forum..

this situation ever get resolved?

KyleBechtold
01-25-2009, 01:41 AM
You own a shop?

revrider1
01-25-2009, 01:52 AM
Interesting

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 01:53 AM
this situation ever get resolved?

On ebay yea all cases closed, I could not check email in that account and I was just informed about the post over at dyi.

I know no one ever sent me anything I did not pay for and like I said there, just show me some proof I will double the price paid.. I would not want to be ripped off and never would want to rip someone else off it's just not cool..

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 02:03 AM
Interesting

One big pain in the butt is what it's been to be honest. lol

revrider1
01-25-2009, 02:05 AM
So, u gonna wanna part with the VLX?

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 02:09 AM
I really don't need all those amps to be honest. lol Man you see I just spent 30k on ebay 2 months ago. lol

I really need a few select subs right now. But seems can't find anyone with them. :( Plus I would fill like a crook taken 6 amps for one. lol

revrider1
01-25-2009, 02:15 AM
Id love that VLX, I have my RL-p?

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 02:16 AM
I thought you needed that though..

revrider1
01-25-2009, 02:18 AM
I do, but the VLX is one of my fav amps... PM me...

TnT_Sounds
01-25-2009, 03:02 AM
Doing a blow-through?

RetroAudioinc
01-25-2009, 11:32 AM
I guess you could call it that, we had the rear window removed wth my 6 Pioneers right there at the window. It sounded GREAT but had issues with my batteries and did not find it until I removed it all for getting pissed off at.

But the wife did not like the camper any way so she is happy about that, now she is pissed because I am putting it all in the cab now.. lol