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ramos
07-25-2003, 05:21 PM
A friend challenged me to build a large spl enclosure with no screws. Give it at least 1000w, 1 or 2 subs my choice. And not have it fall apart during burps. The bet is $100 ;)

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_9_full.jpg
notice the brad nailer. That and gorilla glue are all that will be holding the enclosure together.


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decided to add some dynashield.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_11_full.jpg
More dynashield

http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_13_full.jpg
Look ma still no screws
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_14_full.jpg
nope no screws here either.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_15_full.jpg
starting to look like a box. notice the paint. Eventually I am going to put a plexi window beside the one 12" power hx2 that's going into it on the baffle. The white will reflect the green neon I will be using. And make the inside appear to glow. The end with the green paint will be the area of the slot port.
http://images.cardomain.com/member_img_a/165000-165999/165969_16_full.jpg
No i didn't screw up on the length of the side panels. They are exactly 1" So that the baffle fits perfectly flush and you don't see the exposed ends of the mdf :) I'll post more pics as I progress.

Any bets on wether it will hold up :)

andy00018
07-25-2003, 05:25 PM
Why not use biscuit joints. Thats what iam going to do with my next box iam going to paint. So far looks good though!

ramos
07-25-2003, 05:28 PM
Nah....that's cheating man :D I'm building this way to prove a point to my friend. Who is a nay sayer that owns one of the local shops. :)

jbl_marshall21
07-25-2003, 09:25 PM
Nah....that's cheating man :D I'm building this way to prove a point to my friend. Who is a nay sayer that owns one of the local shops. :)


geez even if ur trying to just make a fun box u still make it look good. i love u :crazy:

willll
07-25-2003, 09:50 PM
i think a brad-nailer is cheating myself. :) that's a pretty sweet box just to prove a point. it will prolly hold with those cheater nails ;)

maylar
07-26-2003, 09:39 AM
Woodworking magazines have done tests that prove edge glued wood panels are as strong as solid wood, without dowels biscuits or screws. That's with solid wood, being glued along the long grain. I dunno how the glue characteristics of MDF compare to that, but my guess is that if you've made tight fitting joints and clamped the parts properly you'll win your bet.

Nice work.

ramos
07-26-2003, 05:40 PM
Thanks guys. I learned a while back. Good straight cuts, and a good urethane glue. Will produce seams with MDF, that will be stronger than wood itself. My friend is starting to worry :D . Still got a little bit of work to do. I'll take some more pictures. :)

MXJMR
07-26-2003, 06:48 PM
Yeah its looking good, I say it will hold. I say it would hold w/out the brad nailer. Does ur buddy know u used it :D . Well looks like ur prolly gonna be 100 bones richer.

ngsm13
07-26-2003, 10:14 PM
looks great...and that gorilla glue, you don't mess around...lol. looks like you'll be getting $100 soon. peace

NG

MXJMR
07-30-2003, 07:17 PM
R u finished yet? i built a box 2 days ago w/ liquid nails and a brad nailer, the brad nailer i think is cheating :nono: cause i have built a couple boxes w/ glue and a brad nailer and there strong, never had a problem. Post some more pic's if ur done. :D

paikiah
07-30-2003, 08:00 PM
you could always enforce it with another wooden angle, attached by glue, naturally. That won't be cheating, and mgiht have a lot more strength to it. (I hope I know what I'm talking about)

mattj
07-30-2003, 08:37 PM
that is a nice *** looking box. and the progress is looking promising. even throw in the neon with plexi to tease him... great job!

keep us informed on how it turns out.

ramos
07-31-2003, 06:34 AM
I'm almost done . Hopefully I can post some pics tomorrow. I too didn't want to use the brad nailer. But my friend told what I can use. So far be it for me to argue :D With my friends, if there is money on the line . You learn to be real specific :)

GstRdr1
07-31-2003, 09:58 AM
Aren't the brads mostly there to hold the seam tight while the glue sets anyway? Once dry the glue will be a lot stronger than any brad.

MXJMR
07-31-2003, 12:30 PM
+ if your friend isnt the smartest one, he shouldnt even notice the brad nails unless u told him cause they are pretty consealed :p

ramos
07-31-2003, 12:38 PM
Aren't the brads mostly there to hold the seam tight while the glue sets anyway? Once dry the glue will be a lot stronger than any brad.


Yes sir you win the cookie. :D The glued joint is actually stronger than the wood itself :)

paikiah
07-31-2003, 08:20 PM
+ if your friend isnt the smartest one, he shouldnt even notice the brad nails unless u told him cause they are pretty consealed :p
That WOULD be considered cheating...
don't cheat your own friends man... :)

MXJMR
07-31-2003, 08:50 PM
These are the days of our lives.

mattj
07-31-2003, 10:53 PM
hot glue impregnates the wood too and creates a super tight bond, stronger than wood.

ramos
08-01-2003, 06:26 AM
Yes it does. But you also have to remember that the slow curing of urethane glues allow the glue to seep as deep as possible into the wood fibers and grab hold. :)

mattj
08-01-2003, 05:35 PM
Yes it does. But you also have to remember that the slow curing of urethane glues allow the glue to seep as deep as possible into the wood fibers and grab hold. :)
Great boxes dont happen in 2 hours.

:D

Took me quite a while to build mine, but then again I didnt have to even break out the sander or anything. Tripple checked everything I did and made darn sure my cuts were gonna be straight on with guides. Even bought a new saw and new blades.