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romo330
11-20-2008, 06:36 PM
got 2 alpine type r 12's commin.. gotta sealed box.. but would they sound better in a vented box?

Trey803
11-20-2008, 06:37 PM
no sealed is way better for alpine's subs especially the type R since it is a sq subwoofer

Trey803
11-20-2008, 06:39 PM
dont listen to endofdays he is a noob

endofdays89
11-20-2008, 06:39 PM
if you want loud, port them bishes and make them 2-3 cubes

Trey803
11-20-2008, 06:40 PM
**** I am good at seeing into the future

bigaudiofanatic
11-20-2008, 08:31 PM
I would go sealed for two reasons tighter bass and alpines sound better that way.

99grandprixGT
11-20-2008, 08:33 PM
4.0 cubes at 32 hz. nice.

Trey803
11-20-2008, 08:33 PM
This was a big joke. Type R's are known to sound bad in sealed boxes and most people prefer them ported. Sorry for misleading you I just needed to vent on some noobs. Ported for sure. There is an entire thread dedicated to the Type R you should check it out

Tiiimay
11-20-2008, 08:42 PM
type R's sound just fine in a sealed box.. how could they sound bad? its not like porting is going to get you better SQ or something. that was a really stupid thread. thanks for wasting my time.

hatemonger
11-20-2008, 09:10 PM
type R's sound just fine in a sealed box.. how could they sound bad? its not like porting is going to get you better SQ or something. that was a really stupid thread. thanks for wasting my time.

lol. any sub sounds fine in a sealed box. what an ignorant post this is. sure, it will sound fine sealed, but the type R is made to be ported. better to port 1 type R, than seal 2. you are wasting alot of money on an extra sub, and the power for the extra sub, when a single type r ported, and a smaller amp, would get just as loud to the ear. this assumes you make the proper enclosure. 2.25 cubes per type R 12, tuned to 34 hz seems to get pretty loud.

THUMPPER
11-20-2008, 10:01 PM
I got a 12" Type R in a ported 1.75cf3 enclosure that is being punished with well over
3200w rms and it still works........LMAO smokes and smells once in a while but she bangs HARD!!

seriously though...go ported or the out put will **** balls

Tiiimay
11-20-2008, 10:11 PM
it will obviously be louder ported. im just saying you cant just say oh it has to be ported, theres alot more to consider like space and application. not everyone is all about spl. theres way to many single minded people on this forum.

Untouchable6588
11-20-2008, 10:16 PM
I had two type r's in a sealed enclosure with about .75 in each chamber and they were pretty loud and sounded good doing it ...GO SEALED...

Tiiimay
11-20-2008, 11:53 PM
im runnin a 10" type x myself at 1000w and loving the sq and its still got more than enough power for me. serious back massage

endofdays89
11-20-2008, 11:59 PM
This was a big joke. Type R's are known to sound bad in sealed boxes and most people prefer them ported. Sorry for misleading you I just needed to vent on some noobs. Ported for sure. There is an entire thread dedicated to the Type R you should check it out

i have done both, and my sealed enclosure sounds so much better FYI, and if you want to get louder then you should definitely go ported. And no, they don't sound bad, they sound better.

Tiiimay
11-21-2008, 12:43 AM
thank you thats all i was trying to say.

hatemonger
11-21-2008, 06:52 PM
it will obviously be louder ported. im just saying you cant just say oh it has to be ported, theres alot more to consider like space and application. not everyone is all about spl. theres way to many single minded people on this forum.

possibly. but 2 sealed would be around the same size as 1 ported. sealing 2 type R's is a waste of money and power. porting 1 saves money and power over sealing 2. if you want a sealed setup, then buy a sub that performs well sealed.

Fiercetimbo17
11-22-2008, 03:45 AM
i have done both, and my sealed enclosure sounds so much better FYI, and if you want to get louder then you should definitely go ported. And no, they don't sound bad, they sound better.

Probably because your ported box was a retarded piece of ****.

A sealed box is more forgiving to mistakes, so even if its too big or too small its not going to be as noticable, much the reason everyone says a sealed box sounds better.
A incorrectly built and designed ported box will not be very forgiving like endofdays boxes, and can yield bad results.
However a properly built ported box can sound just as good as a sealed box. If you cant build a ported box get someone to do it for you.

GreenBook
11-22-2008, 09:17 AM
I ran my 2 R's in a sealed box for a while when I first got them, and they were just fine. I eventually built myself a proper ported box though and they were twice as loud as they were sealed, and even puts out a fair amount of vba. It just depends on what your tastes in music are really. If you listen to strictly rock/metal/ or country, I'd go sealed. If you listen to rap & like to be obnoxious, go ported.

My Boxes were 0.96cf x2 sealed; and 1.4cf @35hz x2 ported. Both have individual chambers.

hatemonger
11-22-2008, 11:26 AM
a proper ported box will sound good on any music.

01 S 10
11-22-2008, 11:37 AM
Ive heard a type R in all types of applications.. my buddy had 1 12" in a sealed box AND 1 12" in a pre-fab ported box in his trunk AT THE SAME TIME. yeah.. i wouldnt stop harrassing him about it and we ended up building 1 ported box for both tuned to 30hz. HUGE difference, easily 4-5db gain. He's had them both sealed before and not near the output as both ported PROPERLY. They were powered by a SPL 5500D, rated 3200 @ 1(maybe ~2200 rms @ 1) and they took it like a champ in a GOOD ported box.

bigaudiofanatic
11-22-2008, 11:58 AM
a proper ported box will sound good on any music.

I beg to differ if he wants tight precis bass a saeled if the way to go in rock music and all with drums ported will drag out the bass making it seem like it is not a drum at all.

hatemonger
11-22-2008, 12:05 PM
I beg to differ if he wants tight precis bass a saeled if the way to go in rock music and all with drums ported will drag out the bass making it seem like it is not a drum at all.

nope. if you have it in an incorrect box for the sub, then you'll get this. if you design, and build the box around the subs T/S parameters, ported sounds fine with any music. i'm a metal guy (with some rap sprinkled in), and i love ported. mistakes in the design, or construction of a ported box will be much more noticeable than mistakes making a sealed box. it's quite satisfying to port an 8, and get as loud as alot of people's 12's.

THUMPPER
11-22-2008, 03:15 PM
a well made ported enclosure produces absolutley flawless speed drums

Miststück
11-22-2008, 03:17 PM
type rawrs go in ported boxes

Fiercetimbo17
11-22-2008, 04:30 PM
I beg to differ if he wants tight precis bass a saeled if the way to go in rock music and all with drums ported will drag out the bass making it seem like it is not a drum at all.

Incorrect

SPL Blazer
11-22-2008, 04:48 PM
It's funny how many people will say "your wrong" when someone says a ported box sounds better or a sealed box sounds better. Everyone has a different view on how much bass sounds good, some want a little others want a lot. Saying someone is wrong when they say it "sounds" better is completely stupid. Now if your talking about putting it on a meter then ported is the way to go. But most people on here don't care about being loud on a meter, they just want it to sound good for their own personal taste.

Fiercetimbo17
11-22-2008, 06:14 PM
It's funny how many people will say "your wrong" when someone says a ported box sounds better or a sealed box sounds better. Everyone has a different view on how much bass sounds good, some want a little others want a lot. Saying someone is wrong when they say it "sounds" better is completely stupid. Now if your talking about putting it on a meter then ported is the way to go. But most people on here don't care about being loud on a meter, they just want it to sound good for their own personal taste.

I can see what you are saying, however its not set in stone that a sealed box is going to sound better which is what he is saying.
What i said it stating an opinion which everyone has a different one about what really sounds "good"
He was trying to state a incorrect fact

IDSkoT
11-22-2008, 06:18 PM
I beg to differ if he wants tight precis bass a saeled if the way to go in rock music and all with drums ported will drag out the bass making it seem like it is not a drum at all.

LOL@U. The port ends up acting like extra cone area in the tuned range... BASICALLY. Don't quote me and go "LOL", because that's the best way I can explain it in laymen's.

And a well designed and constructed ported enclosure can have the same exact response (in terms of quickness) as a sealed... but, this of course, depends on the driver. Some drivers (Like almost all the DD's drivers) are designed to play in ported enclosures, making them have a really nice response.

IDSkoT
11-22-2008, 06:21 PM
I can see what you are saying, however its not set in stone that a sealed box is going to sound better which is what he is saying.
What i said it stating an opinion which everyone has a different one about what really sounds "good"
He was trying to state a incorrect fact

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As said in my previous post, how good a driver will sound in a ported or sealed enclosure is purely based on the driver's design and construction, and the box's design/construction. There are a lot of factors (even the car's cabin, and many times the trunk, is a factor that most people disregard.) Tuning changes when you put it in a car, regardless of what anyone argues. If you put your subs in your trunk, it acts like a 6th order bandpass, automatically... and different vehicles will have a different resonant frequency...
I could keep going, but do you see? There's just so many different variables you have to think of... and what that person was saying is that a sealed will always have a quicker response... which is completely untrue.