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Crodski
11-17-2008, 05:49 PM
I do not really want to bring my home system to the dorm because i think it is to bulky. So I was thinking more along the lines of a 2.1 channel system or something along the lines of that. I am trying to stay in the range of 250$ but i will go up to 300$.
I was thinking maybe something along the lines of this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882120099

or maybe
http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Onkyo-HT-S3100-5-1-Dolby-EX-and-DTS-ES-Receiver-Speaker-System-HTS3100/sem/rpsm/oid/208452/catOid/-12884/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do

I do like my first suggestion because it is fairly compact but it just worries me that it will not be loud enough with only 30 watts going to each speaker.

I am also willing to piece one together if you guys have some better suggestions.
I would like it to be able to become loud when needed. As long as it has the optical receiver so i can hook up my ps3 to it then it is fine.

As for a sub i was just thinking of taking the one from my home and just hooking it up to the receiver.

ehh i do not really know where i am going with this so suggestions would be greatly appreciated

dman4486
11-17-2008, 05:53 PM
if you are looking for just 2 speakers and a sub, look at the klipsch promedia 2.1.....

amazing sound, plenty of bass, but it does not have a receiver. it is set up like computer speakers with a minijack.

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 06:01 PM
if you are looking for just 2 speakers and a sub, look at the klipsch promedia 2.1.....

amazing sound, plenty of bass, but it does not have a receiver. it is set up like computer speakers with a minijack.

x2 klipsch makes great stuff

also, what exactly are you looking for? A system for movies with the occasional music playing or a system for music playing with the occasional movies?
You could go with a nice PA system and still be able to watch movies through it. I have a 5.1 surround system and my PA system hooked up in my living room. When I wanna get that nice rumble from movies I use the PA system instead of the 5.1 because its nothing to special. My set up consists of two PA's, an amp, and a mixer which I spent a little over 400 I think but if you shop around you can find cheaper prices.

Crodski
11-17-2008, 06:13 PM
if you are looking for just 2 speakers and a sub, look at the klipsch promedia 2.1.....

amazing sound, plenty of bass, but it does not have a receiver. it is set up like computer speakers with a minijack.

those are pretty nice but i do have the 5.1 logitech computer surround at my house and i could just bring that down there if i wanted but i am not really looking for computer speakers setup.

x2 klipsch makes great stuff

also, what exactly are you looking for? A system for movies with the occasional music playing or a system for music playing with the occasional movies?
You could go with a nice PA system and still be able to watch movies through it. I have a 5.1 surround system and my PA system hooked up in my living room. When I wanna get that nice rumble from movies I use the PA system instead of the 5.1 because its nothing to special. My set up consists of two PA's, an amp, and a mixer which I spent a little over 400 I think but if you shop around you can find cheaper prices.

Well I guess i will lean toward the Music side because I regularly play music rather then watch movies. But like you said, i would like it to sound decent for movies when i am in the mood :\ I as well am going for the rumble :)
Now, with your PA system, i really do not know where to start, what are some decent brands for the amp, mixer,etc.

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 06:24 PM
those are pretty nice but i do have the 5.1 logitech computer surround at my house and i could just bring that down there if i wanted but i am not really looking for computer speakers setup.


Well I guess i will lean toward the Music side because I regularly play music rather then watch movies. But like you said, i would like it to sound decent for movies when i am in the mood :\ I as well am going for the rumble :)
Now, with your PA system, i really do not know where to start, what are some decent brands for the amp, mixer,etc.

Behringer is one of the better companies. They have quality equipment, I use the eurorack UB502 for my mixer, great little mixer and will run you less than a $100. Not cheap in quality at all. My amp is a fleco PA1 but they dont make them anymore so after you decide on which speakers you want I can help you find a nice amp in your price range. The speakers I am running are MTX TP112's but they dont make those either. However, the new model is the TP1200. The MTX's are great for a budget setup and dont take much to get them loud. rms is 150w each which allows you to spend less on an amp. There is also an option of getting powered PA's as well and run them into a mixer.

Crodski
11-17-2008, 06:50 PM
Behringer is one of the better companies. They have quality equipment, I use the eurorack UB502 for my mixer, great little mixer and will run you less than a $100. Not cheap in quality at all. My amp is a fleco PA1 but they dont make them anymore so after you decide on which speakers you want I can help you find a nice amp in your price range. The speakers I am running are MTX TP112's but they dont make those either. However, the new model is the TP1200. The MTX's are great for a budget setup and dont take much to get them loud. rms is 150w each which allows you to spend less on an amp. There is also an option of getting powered PA's as well and run them into a mixer.

I like that mixer.
For speakers, i am thinking these will suffice

http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=250-680
or
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?g=37900&i=107R150&tp=186
like i said i do have a powered sub at home that i will bring down to complete it.
As for an amp....idk yet

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 08:31 PM
tough choice between the two....I would try the Pioneers though, with that 8" mid you should get better mid bass than the 5 1/4. As long as your not wanting really loud music these should work fine paired with your sub. Is the sub you speak of the logitec?
As for an amp you might be able to find a quality receiver to push these. I would give them at least 80rms though so if that cant be found I would go with an amp and mixer.

Hostile89
11-17-2008, 08:36 PM
Behringer is one of the better companies.


I am going to have to disagree with this statement. Behringer is mediocre at best. But at around $50 for the UB802, I guess you could just go buy another one when it breaks.

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 08:41 PM
I am going to have to disagree with this statement. Behringer is mediocre at best. But at around $50 for the UB802, I guess you could just go buy another one when it breaks.

mediocre:rolleyes:
If behringer is mediocre why would dj's swear by it? as well as musicians? I never said it was top of the market equipment but its a lot better than mediocre equipment.

Hostile89
11-17-2008, 08:49 PM
I don't know too many Professional musicians/DJ's that will swear by Behringer. I consider Behringer to be in the same league as Numark. Not as bad as American Audio or Stanton. But it is FAR from the quality of Pioneer/Allen&Heath/Rane.


edit: But this is only my Opinion and should be taken AS-IS

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 08:53 PM
this looks promising http://cgi.ebay.com/Yamaha-Htr-6140-Digital-Home-Theater-Receiver-5-1-SAVE_W0QQitemZ260314779083QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRecei vers_Tuners?hash=item260314779083&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A13 18

snfsh79077
11-17-2008, 08:55 PM
I don't know too many Professional musicians/DJ's that will swear by Behringer. I consider Behringer to be in the same league as Numark. Not as bad as American Audio or Stanton. But it is FAR from the quality of Pioneer/Allen&Heath/Rane.


edit: But this is only my Opinion and should be taken AS-IS

well I happen to know many musicians and djs that use and behringer as well as higher quality products and they would swear by behringer as well as state they are not mediocre equipment

Crodski
11-17-2008, 08:57 PM
tough choice between the two....I would try the Pioneers though, with that 8" mid you should get better mid bass than the 5 1/4. As long as your not wanting really loud music these should work fine paired with your sub. Is the sub you speak of the logitec?
As for an amp you might be able to find a quality receiver to push these. I would give them at least 80rms though so if that cant be found I would go with an amp and mixer.

ooo ok thx maybe i will look into some other ones then.
lol no i hate my logitech sub. ever since i got it its always sounded like ***, it makes some weird noises with bass. I also have one of the newer 7.1 onkyo systems sitting in my room and i was just going to take that out. i was thinking of getting a new sub and making a new box for it because i feel it is tuned kind of high for my liking.

Hostile89
11-17-2008, 09:42 PM
well I happen to know many musicians and djs that use and behringer as well as higher quality products and they would swear by behringer as well as state they are not mediocre equipment

I'm sure many people like Behringer. It is inexpensive and serves a purpose. If someone is looking for an inexpensive mixer/amp/speaker than Behringer is a perfectly good option.

Unfortunately this conversation we are having is adding nothing to the original poster's question. We can disagree all we want. Claim who knows the most DJ's. Claim who's installed/serviced the audio/lighting in the most clubs. So, at this point I realize I'm not going to affect your opinion. but I'm not going to waste anymore of anyone's time disagreeing with you.

dman4486
11-17-2008, 10:28 PM
you would be crazy surprised with the klipsch I recommended......it may not have the features, but it will shake the entire hall on bass notes, and for movies it is incredible. the highs are very crisp and the mids are impressive as well.


If you haven't heard one, you should check it out

JimJ
11-17-2008, 11:59 PM
Not really a fan of any "computer" type speakers or in-the-box things...

When I was in the dorms, I had a vintage NAD integrated amp, two 3-way JBL bookshelves, and an Adire Rava...the powered sub would kill your budget but I bet you could find a decent used integrated and a pair of speakers for $300 if you hunted Craigslist for a little bit. Marantz, Kenwood or Pioneer integrated amps usually show up for under $100, and you could use the $200 to find a pair of Klipsch Heresy's or smaller JBL monitors...

Rich B
11-18-2008, 12:07 AM
http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/onkyo?layer=comp&wid=100&hei=30&fmt=jpeg&qlt=100,1&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.0,0.0,0,0&iccEmbed=0 (http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/brand/30/1/onkyo/)http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/502399334?$medium_item$ (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:openImageViewer%28%27http://www.vanns.com/shop/image_viewer.jsp%27,%27512%27,%27600%27,%275023993 34%27,%27$large_item$%27%29)
5.1-Channel Receiver/Speaker Package

With the HTSR700, you get a full 5.1-channel home theater package in one box. The TXSR304 5.1-channel receiver drives the package with 65 watts-per-channel power into 8 Ohms. You also get a powered subwoofer, front, center, and surround speakers, all built with the strength of Onkyo technology.

Clearance Price:
$239.82

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/502399334/onkyo-ht-sr700-black

Crodski
11-18-2008, 01:53 AM
Not really a fan of any "computer" type speakers or in-the-box things...

When I was in the dorms, I had a vintage NAD integrated amp, two 3-way JBL bookshelves, and an Adire Rava...the powered sub would kill your budget but I bet you could find a decent used integrated and a pair of speakers for $300 if you hunted Craigslist for a little bit. Marantz, Kenwood or Pioneer integrated amps usually show up for under $100, and you could use the $200 to find a pair of Klipsch Heresy's or smaller JBL monitors...

i like that NAD equipment but it looks like it would be kind of pricey :\
as for the speakers, i came across these jbl speakers, they pretty good?
http://www.jbl.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=PT800BLK&Language=ENG&Country=US&Region=USA&cat=BFS&ser=PER



http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/onkyo?layer=comp&wid=100&hei=30&fmt=jpeg&qlt=100,1&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.0,0.0,0,0&iccEmbed=0 (http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/brand/30/1/onkyo/)http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/502399334?$medium_item$ (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:openImageViewer%28%27http://www.vanns.com/shop/image_viewer.jsp%27,%27512%27,%27600%27,%275023993 34%27,%27$large_item$%27%29)
5.1-Channel Receiver/Speaker Package

With the HTSR700, you get a full 5.1-channel home theater package in one box. The TXSR304 5.1-channel receiver drives the package with 65 watts-per-channel power into 8 Ohms. You also get a powered subwoofer, front, center, and surround speakers, all built with the strength of Onkyo technology.

Clearance Price:
$239.82

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/502399334/onkyo-ht-sr700-black

hmm i will look into this. pretty decent price.

thxsubwoofers
11-18-2008, 01:56 AM
Logitech Z-5500

Crodski
11-18-2008, 02:14 AM
Logitech Z-5500

i have that one in 5.1 version for my computer back home. ;)
i love it except i do not really care for the sub.

snfsh79077
11-18-2008, 06:12 PM
I like those jbl's...they look **** and promising, as well as excellent reviews...cant seem to find a price yet though

JimJ
11-19-2008, 10:29 AM
i like that NAD equipment but it looks like it would be kind of pricey :\

I bought a NAD 3020 integrated amp for $200 off of Ebay. The new stuff is a lot more, you're right.

Those JBLs aren't going to be the last word in accuracy (I know the S38s I had definitely weren't), but they should be a good dorm speaker :)

snfsh79077
11-19-2008, 10:54 AM
I bought a NAD 3020 integrated amp for $200 off of Ebay. The new stuff is a lot more, you're right.

Those JBLs aren't going to be the last word in accuracy (I know the S38s I had definitely weren't), but they should be a good dorm speaker :)

reviews say they are very accurate....however about 3 years ago the speakers were going for over a grand

Crodski
11-23-2008, 02:16 AM
reviews say they are very accurate....however about 3 years ago the speakers were going for over a grand

yea i didnt search price when i posted and when i did they were out of my range haha..

but i've been ebaying for a bit and took an interest into some nice klipsch speakers that are affordable and should perform fairly decent i hope.

snfsh79077
11-23-2008, 03:49 PM
yea i didnt search price when i posted and when i did they were out of my range haha..

but i've been ebaying for a bit and took an interest into some nice klipsch speakers that are affordable and should perform fairly decent i hope.

cant really go wrong with klipsch I dont think

bamaboy
11-23-2008, 10:59 PM
depends on what kind of low notes you want, i have the klipsch 2.1, they sound great but for alot of rap music and low notes in movies subs gets distorted

but other than lower notes it sounds pretty dang good being its just a boxed up computer system

might could do a nice diy sub and a small plate amp or something

JimJ
11-24-2008, 03:45 PM
None of what Klipsch has made in the last ten years has really impressed me, other than the re-issues of the Heritage lines...

dman4486
11-24-2008, 03:55 PM
None of what Klipsch has made in the last ten years has really impressed me, other than the re-issues of the Heritage lines...

promedia 2.1

"The included Klipsch amplifier and speaker set (subwoofer included) delivers superb sound for music and video. This system stands head and shoulders above even the best speakers on lesser computers."
- James Coates, San Antonio Express-News [11/10/2002]

"The top-of-the-line for three-piece systems is the Klipsch ProMedia 2.1. They sell for around $200 [$179] and are worth every penny, if you desire a high-quality sound that can put most home stereo systems to shame."
- Portsmouth Herald [7/10/2001]

"Anyone looking for a amplified speaker system for any reason, whether for that new PlayStation 2, MP3 players, computers, or for any other electronic device, would be hard pressed to find a comparable system at even twice the price."
- Yanman.com [9/18/2006]

"Overall, the ProMedia 2.1 system rocked our world as much as the V.2-400 system did a year ago…the outlandish output of this compact system must be heard to be believed."
- MaximumPC [9/18/2006]

"But what did it sound like? In a word, incredible."
- formen.ign.com [9/18/2006]

"The new de facto 2.1 standard by which other competing products will be judged."
- Gamers Depot [9/18/2006]

"Compared to the other multimedia speakers on the market, Klipsch remains at the head of the pack."
- Firing Squad [9/18/2006]

"Like it's Big Brother, these speakers will peel the paint off the walls."
- PC Gamer [9/18/2006]

"…if you close your eyes, you could almost swear you were listening to high-end stereo speakers for your living room."
- Dave Salvatore, Computer Gaming World [9/18/2006]

"All in all, a very impressive package."
- BarrysWorld.com [9/18/2006]

JimJ
11-24-2008, 04:02 PM
#1, I don't buy speakers based on what PC mags say. I'll let them stick to what they know best...computers and gaming.

#2, I can list easily that many reviews raving about how $10,000 AC power cords work, so numbers alone don't really tell the whole story :D

IDSkoT
11-24-2008, 04:04 PM
http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/onkyo?layer=comp&wid=100&hei=30&fmt=jpeg&qlt=100,1&op_sharpen=0&resMode=bicub&op_usm=0.0,0.0,0,0&iccEmbed=0 (http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/brand/30/1/onkyo/)http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/502399334?$medium_item$ (http://javascript%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:openImageViewer%28%27http://www.vanns.com/shop/image_viewer.jsp%27,%27512%27,%27600%27,%275023993 34%27,%27$large_item$%27%29)
5.1-Channel Receiver/Speaker Package

With the HTSR700, you get a full 5.1-channel home theater package in one box. The TXSR304 5.1-channel receiver drives the package with 65 watts-per-channel power into 8 Ohms. You also get a powered subwoofer, front, center, and surround speakers, all built with the strength of Onkyo technology.

Clearance Price:
$239.82

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/details/502399334/onkyo-ht-sr700-black




:drool:

That's such a good price, man. For a processor, drivers, and a powered sub.
I'd snatch it if I had the dough.

dman4486
11-24-2008, 04:07 PM
#1, I don't buy speakers based on what PC computer mags say.

#2, I can list easily that many reviews raving about how $10000 AC power cords work, so numbers alone don't really tell the whole story :D

ok...well I own a set and they sound better than any other comparable set I have ever come across.

but still don't compare to my living room setup.:D(which is not that much to brag about because I no longer have my higher dollar stuff:crying:

snfsh79077
11-24-2008, 04:31 PM
:drool:

That's such a good price, man. For a processor, drivers, and a powered sub.
I'd snatch it if I had the dough.

agreed, I think this would suit you just fine and if worse comes to worse you can just upgrade the speakers/sub later on and still use the receiver

Rich B
11-24-2008, 04:47 PM
I dont know if the price is a misprint, or if the guy is just an idiot, but this might be worth a look......

B&K AVR-307

http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1227214905.jpg


Asking$50.00 obo:eek:

http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?miscrcvr&1232374576&/B-K-AVR-307

snfsh79077
11-24-2008, 04:56 PM
o **** I might have to grab that