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blue_misfit
11-10-2008, 09:26 PM
Hi Guys,

I'm trying to get a parts list together for my '03 G35 Sedan, so I can get the parts ordered. I'm going to have a well reviewed local shop install everything.

Goals:
*Under $1000 for sure, installed
*Good sound quality, specifically smooth frequency response, and deep bass extension. Loud isn't important.
*Robust iPod interface, USB thumb drive support, AAC and MP3
*At least a HU, sub, and amp

Install for the G35 is a bit of a nightmare and requires some special parts from JDM. This is the main reason I'm taking it to a shop! These install parts could add ~$150-200 to the install, according to my research.

So, the first big question is head unit.

I hear that Pioneer's 2008 models have very good iPod controls. Specifically, you can use the iPod's controls (or 1g iPhone, in my case), instead of the wonky UI on the head unit. This is an absolute must-have for me. I can't *STAND* using an on-deck UI.

I was steered towards the P6000UB as a great single-DIN head unit. The shop quoted me $225, which isn't too bad. It seems like a well-liked unit.

Now, the other option would be to get a P400UB. I can get one online for ~$140 shipped. It seems to have the same iPod interface, and looks to be a good model. No flashy OLED display, but I don't really care about that.

Aside from the different look (and arguably inferior display), what are the differences between these two head units? Any other options I should be seriously considering? Also, can any units play MP3 / AAC off a DVD-R?

For reference, I plan on eventually building out this system to have two discrete amplifiers, one for the sub and one for components up front, possibly 3-way speakers in the back.

Now for the other parts - the sub and amp. I'm totally out of touch. I do know I want a single 12", not sure about ported or sealed. I don't need a lot of power (was previously happy with ~100WRMS on a Polk 12" circa 2003), but I do like to feel the beat. Suggestions? The guy I talked to quoted ~ $500 for sub/amp/enclosure/wiring/install, +/- depending on component selection. Some good "bang for your buck" suggestions?

If I can afford it, I'd love to do new 3-way speakers as well. The OEM speakers honestly aren't too bad - and I'd be okay with keeping them for now and upgrading later.

All told, if I go with the P6000UB, assume $225 for that + $500 for sub/amp/box, plus an extra $150 for installation bits and pieces, and $100 for labor, I'm looking at ~$1000. Sounds like a lot for HU+Sub+Amp

Help me decide :)

~MiSfit

blazeplacid
11-10-2008, 10:17 PM
I have a G35 also,
Myself I wouldnt do anything but a double din. If you budget doesnt allow it then do the 6000

Ive owened the 5000 and thr 6000, the 6000 is a really great unit. It will not play DVDs of any type, only cd/mp3 cds

The G isnt the easiest to install in but not the worst, it took me about 2 hours to put my head unit in from factory. I would allow about 4 hours if you have done just a few installs.
I took little breaks in between also

any more questions just ask

blue_misfit
11-10-2008, 10:21 PM
^^

Thanks for the quick reply!

What do you see the advantages of the 6000 as?

~MiSfit

bigeasy79
11-10-2008, 10:23 PM
Ygpm

blazeplacid
11-10-2008, 10:44 PM
the 5000 has a really basic display, a 3 band eq and a flap face

6000 has an OEL display,7 band eq and a motorized face

the ipod on the 5000 looks a bit strange to me, the 6000 is much easier on the eyes

BaaH268
11-10-2008, 11:16 PM
I would get the P-6000 also. I originally wanted the 4000 also because of its simplicity, but ended up with the 5000 because of how much better the display looked and the features it had for the extra $20. Wish I would have gotten the 6000 instead, but I cheaped out on the H/U.

blue_misfit
11-10-2008, 11:25 PM
Ok, I get that the 600 has a very nice display. But, the display isn't really important to me.

What "features" does the 6000 have that the 400 doesn't?

~MiSfit

BaaH268
11-10-2008, 11:42 PM
For the most part its tuning capabilities that set these two apart besides the UI. The 6000 has a 7 band equalizer with a high and low pass filter setting. While the 4000 only has a 3 band and I don't think it has a high and low pass filter setting.
Other then that they both can read the same files. Both allow for integration of bluetooth and satellite radio.

blue_misfit
11-11-2008, 12:24 AM
The 400 does in fact have LPF / HPF options, and the extra EQ isn't a huge deal to me.

I think I'll settle on the 400 for now.

So, what about subs / amps?

~MiSfit

ColourWolf
11-18-2008, 04:22 PM
How bout the DEH-P7000BT? How much difference is it between this and the 6000?