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JDBoogie
11-05-2008, 04:08 PM
I have heard of people using baffles, insulation and even bowls (plastic cerial type) on the back of their mids to get a little more mid range punch out of them. Anyone know if these things work or have any suggestions for how i can get more mid bass out of my front stage? I have "tweaked" my amp and HU but cant ge what i want. I am currently running the Dynaudio System 240 (kinda.. tweets and x-over are from the 240 set and mids are MW 162's).

Mr. C
11-05-2008, 04:15 PM
Have you deadened the doors yet?

Trey803
11-05-2008, 04:16 PM
deadener

Trey803
11-05-2008, 04:18 PM
putting anything behind your speaker like a bowl will kill your midbass. Deaden the doors and seal off the holes if possible with plexi

MrDave
11-05-2008, 04:35 PM
You should be able to get plenty of punch out of the MW162's.

As suggested, deaden the doors fully. Seal up any holes in the door, that way the door itself acts as an enclosure for the woofer. You should also invest in deflex pads for behind the speaker.

Also, you are only running a JL 300/4. That Dyn tweet and woofer can easily handle 200rms. I'm not sure if you are running the amp on all four channels, but if you are, you are probably only getting 50rms per side. An easy solution, without changing your equipment, is to run the amp in two channel bridged to your front components. If you still want some rear speakers, just run them off the headunit's amp. That will double your power to the front set.

Dyn's definatly require good power. Optimally, you would invest in a more powerful amp.

kovemaster559
11-05-2008, 04:39 PM
tupper ware works awesome. except wen wife or mom yells at you and wonder where it went

groundpound4200
11-05-2008, 04:43 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95925

JDBoogie
11-05-2008, 05:01 PM
My doors are deadened but not "really" sealed..

I was gonna try bridging my amp this weekend. 150W to each side should be enough right??

Would going active off the amps x-over help any? Each component would get 75W.

JDBoogie
11-05-2008, 05:09 PM
Nice link. I will have to try the plexi glass trick. Looks pretty cool! :thumbsup:

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95925

FoxPro5
11-05-2008, 05:26 PM
My doors are deadened but not "really" sealed..

I was gonna try bridging my amp this weekend. 150W to each side should be enough right??

Would going active off the amps x-over help any? Each component would get 75W.

Seal the access holes.

Satisified? No?......

Bridge your amp using the passives for the mid and tweet

Satisfied? No?.....

Bridge your amp to the mids only and find another amp for your tweeters.

Yes, you'd need active 3-way capabilities in your HU to do this.

jmanpc
11-05-2008, 05:28 PM
Bowels behind the mids? Good luck finding a donor.

James Bang
11-05-2008, 05:30 PM
I have heard of people using baffles, insulation and even bowels (plastic cerial type) on the back of their mids to get a little more mid range punch out of them. Anyone know if these things work or have any suggestions for how i can get more mid bass out of my front stage? I have "tweaked" my amp and HU but cant ge what i want. I am currently running the Dynaudio System 240 (kinda.. tweets and x-over are from the 240 set and mids are MW 162's).

:laugh:

JDBoogie
11-05-2008, 06:09 PM
Bowels behind the mids? Good luck finding a donor.

D**n. I guess that college education has let me down once again!! :furious::verymad::mad:

JDBoogie
11-05-2008, 06:15 PM
Bridge your amp to the mids only and find another amp for your tweeters.

you'd need active 3-way capabilities in your HU to do this.

I can bridge my mids with my current amp and i have another small 50x2 amp somewhere.. My HU def doesnt have the ability to do 3 way active. How about if i add and external x-over?? I have been eyeballing the Arc audio IDX x-over. :D

mike11202
11-05-2008, 07:18 PM
i sealed off my doors and stuck the baffle out a little past the stock grills.. i get great midbass response sounds like i have sealed 8's in my doors

916Kev
11-06-2008, 05:09 AM
Dynaxorb??

JDBoogie
11-06-2008, 10:40 AM
i sealed off my doors and stuck the baffle out a little past the stock grills.. i get great midbass response sounds like i have sealed 8's in my doors

U got any pics of this?

mike11202
11-06-2008, 11:09 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v407/mike11202/Civic%20Audio/t2.jpg

JDBoogie
11-06-2008, 11:42 AM
I have a Toyota truck and sealing the door isnt an option anymore. I checked it out yesterday and i have moisture in there. Because of that im gonna leave the little drain holes at the bottom open and pick up some baffles to protect my speakers from the water.

James Bang
11-06-2008, 02:13 PM
i sealed off my doors and stuck the baffle out a little past the stock grills.. i get great midbass response sounds like i have sealed 8's in my doors

Do you know what sealed 8"s in doors sound like?



to the OP, be careful with those bowels behind your mids. Too much midbass might cause unwanted bowel movements.

Simek4life
11-06-2008, 02:22 PM
Might want to try:
1. Another layer or two of deadener
2. Seal big holes with plexi
3. dyna pad behind speaker
4. Good sealed baffle
5. More power

mike11202
11-06-2008, 02:57 PM
Do you know what sealed 8"s in doors sound like?



to the OP, be careful with those bowels behind your mids. Too much midbass might cause unwanted bowel movements.

Yes, I heard them in the JBL demo van

James Bang
11-06-2008, 03:00 PM
k


i sealed off my doors and stuck the baffle out a little past the stock grills.. i get great midbass response sounds like i have sealed 8's in my doors playing at low levels.

:p:

blazeplacid
11-06-2008, 03:54 PM
more wattage~!!!!

200rms per side, no less

blazeplacid
11-06-2008, 03:54 PM
more wattage~!!!!

200rms per side, no less

JDBoogie
11-07-2008, 01:13 PM
Do you know what sealed 8"s in doors sound like?



to the OP, be careful with those bowels behind your mids. Too much midbass might cause unwanted bowel movements.

And they can make them sound $h!tty!! :D