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riddla
11-01-2008, 04:01 PM
I have been using my psg rds's for a while now and cant fault them but I want to try something that can handle tons of power.

I have just installed my JBL GTO 75.4 amp which I've had sitting for ages and replaced my old amp with this one.

I have bridged the amp to provide 284w rms into each speaker. I now want to find out if you can tell me what 6.5in mid drivers I can use with this ammount of power as I like my set loud and want something that can take it.

Im running active by the way.

Is there anything on ebay ? thanx

endofdays89
11-01-2008, 04:03 PM
you bridge your comps too? I thought i was the only one that does that

riddla
11-01-2008, 04:09 PM
I dont usaully. Its just that this amp can be bridged to run 284rms p/channel. It is a 4 channel amp tho at 104rms p/channel.

Im just looking for a set of 6.5 drivers that can take a beating not to kill them tho but dont have a clue what to look for

alxmlr789
11-01-2008, 04:16 PM
So lets see, you want a set of components or just some 6.5" midbass drivers?

Not too many coaxials can handle a bunch of power, but the ID OEM's (6.5" midbass drivers) can handle a bunch of power, I had 180 on them and they seemed like they can take some more.

riddla
11-01-2008, 04:18 PM
Hello, sorry yes Im just after some 6.5in mid drivers

alxmlr789
11-01-2008, 04:19 PM
I'd contact Hessdawg.

He has the ID OEM's for 90 shipped, some of the best money i've spent in car audio.

RE_XXX
11-01-2008, 04:24 PM
mids or coaixals?

If 6.5 mids then

EU700 from Elemental designs
RE XXX mids
Mpyre Mids

riddla
11-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Just mids only

riddla
11-02-2008, 02:04 PM
any more info from u experts pleeze

Etac
11-02-2008, 02:36 PM
haha i have teh same amp.. i've blown 3 sets of speakers with this amp bridged, i heard boston acoustics (forget which model) can handle a ton of power tho.. but look into that cause im not 100% sure

riddla
11-02-2008, 02:42 PM
I hope I dont blow my rsd's with this amp. I hooked it up yesterday eve and this thing has got some power bridged man. Im being very very careful with the gains a t the moment. They are turned right down. I just want to get some really powerful mids asap

Etac
11-02-2008, 02:45 PM
well 280+ watts is alot of power for mids.. esp ones running in an IB setup (doors) without bottoming out
you're gonna have to find something with a big voice coil, decent excursion, and a stiff suspension

tcguy85
11-02-2008, 02:54 PM
id oems. i have 200 on each of mine and they take it just fine.

RAM_Designs
11-02-2008, 02:59 PM
If you actually want to use all that power, look into some Morel mids...big VC's that can handle a ton of power.

riddla
11-02-2008, 03:01 PM
ok, I might try the id oem's. Im pulling my hair out here trying to find some that can take a beating

riddla
11-02-2008, 03:02 PM
If you actually want to use all that power, look into some Morel mids...big VC's that can handle a ton of power.

cool, where could I source these ?

tcguy85
11-02-2008, 03:05 PM
ok, I might try the id oem's. Im pulling my hair out here trying to find some that can take a beating

the ID's will take a beating. so will the rsd's though. i had them on the same amp that the ID's are on right now. they handled it fine as well.

i'd actually say i pushed the rsd's harder because the ID's are more sensitive, so i have the volume turned down a little lower to get the same volume out of them. i used to use 48-50 on my HU quite a bit, now i never go over 45 and i never touched my gains.

riddla
11-02-2008, 03:10 PM
the ID's will take a beating. so will the rsd's though. i had them on the same amp that the ID's are on right now. they handled it fine as well.

i'd actually say i pushed the rsd's harder because the ID's are more sensitive, so i have the volume turned down a little lower to get the same volume out of them. i used to use 48-50 on my HU quite a bit, now i never go over 45 and i never touched my gains.

How do the id's sound compared to the rsd's. My rsd's sound nice and I used to have some infinity kappa mids which I personally thought sounded warmer than the rsd'd but had not mid bass at all. I to usally never go above 46 on my headunit, usally 40 tops. The ids look a bit beefier than the rsd's tho ?

tcguy85
11-02-2008, 03:33 PM
How do the id's sound compared to the rsd's. My rsd's sound nice and I used to have some infinity kappa mids which I personally thought sounded warmer than the rsd'd but had not mid bass at all. I to usally never go above 46 on my headunit, usally 40 tops. The ids look a bit beefier than the rsd's tho ?

the ID's have slightly more mid-bass once broken in, but sound a lot tighter and punchier. what i was really after was more mid-range clarity, and the ID's do it for me. i always thought the rsd mids lacked clarity up top, thats the reason i upgraded.

riddla
11-02-2008, 04:54 PM
the ID's have slightly more mid-bass once broken in, but sound a lot tighter and punchier. what i was really after was more mid-range clarity, and the ID's do it for me. i always thought the rsd mids lacked clarity up top, thats the reason i upgraded.

Ok thanx for the little review. ima give them a go and see how it goes, where did u get urs from

tcguy85
11-02-2008, 04:54 PM
Ok thanx for the little review. ima give them a go and see how it goes, where did u get urs from

hessdawg. he has a thread in the classifieds.

riddla
11-02-2008, 05:02 PM
ok thanx again man

Etac
11-02-2008, 05:59 PM
just a warning tho, this isnt directed to anyone in this thread
but i've been told many times that X speaker takes X power.. and when it comes down to it, it doesnt..

an example would be my cmx kicks.. i was told 250-300 watts easy... and no, they dont.. sorry.. they could take about 200 crossed at 80 but even then you could smell their coil every once in awhile.. and once you hit 250+ depending where they were crossed, they would bottom out

some people set their gains with 0 db test tones at level 25 say... then play their music at level 25.. and guess what.. most music is about -6db (with exceptions) so they arent using the power they think they are.. and 6dbs the higher you go.. adds up

but like i said in my previous post.. power handling in doors is over rated... since they're basically an IB setup.. power isnt the problem.. their mechanical limits is usually the problem...

UCF52
11-02-2008, 07:34 PM
Just set your gains by ear. I set them using pink noise and then also go back over them with a well-recorded CD. Set your tweets, mids, and sub(s) individually. Then go through an do a level adjustment.

FoxPro5
11-02-2008, 07:49 PM
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but i've been told many times that X speaker takes X power.. and when it comes down to it, it doesnt..

Well, X amp makes X power.....and when it comes down to it, it doesn't. RMS power is not average power. His amp doesn't put out 284 watts all the time. It might be for a fraction of a second.

Buy a mid that fits your application and budget and ignore all those relatively useless ratings. 95% of the power or more is wasted as heat in a speaker. And your amp might only be 50% efficient at delivering power. Buy as much power as you can afford.

tcguy85
11-02-2008, 08:38 PM
music is dynamic so you won't be using that much power all the time but on peaks it's nice to have the headroom.

riddla
11-02-2008, 08:52 PM
yer, thanx for all the info, im gonner have to source a pair of mids now, might be hard. my budget is about 200 usd

Louisiana_CRX
11-02-2008, 08:55 PM
if you want an awesome set of 6.5 midbass the Earthquake shallow mount 6.5 will give it to you...plus they take a lot of power...;)

riddla
11-02-2008, 09:04 PM
if you want an awesome set of 6.5 midbass the Earthquake shallow mount 6.5 will give it to you...plus they take a lot of power...;)

how do they sound and where can i source them ?

oops, Are these the ones your refering to

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Earthquake-SWS-6-5-6-5-Shallow-Mount-Woofer-System_W0QQitemZ360091966957QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em360091966957&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1299%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318

riddla
11-02-2008, 09:04 PM
What about these ones ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-PAIR-MPYRE-65M-CARBON-FIBER-MIDS-AND-CROSSOVERS_W0QQitemZ140279126591QQcmdZViewItem?has h=item140279126591&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177

headless
11-02-2008, 10:06 PM
Power line CS....6.9", but will fit just about everywhere a 6.5 will. These things take 250w+ :) They use the same basket/motor as the rainbow 7" vanadium subs :) But...they are very deep...but that kind of goes with the territory. I've run these crossed over as low as 40hz, but for high volume listening keep them at 63hz/24db.

goodrich
11-02-2008, 11:43 PM
I have 270w going to my Profi Kick-Bass Mids with no problem so far.