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mustbenu
10-15-2008, 12:05 AM
i decided im going to buy
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=6201
can you guys give me some suggestions for some amps i can run these with.
id like to run 100 watts
thanks so much

lyttleviet
10-15-2008, 01:11 AM
whats your budget?

Xprime4
10-15-2008, 10:51 AM
they look nice, i'll be installing mine once they get here :P

I think you should aim for more power... just headroom in case :cool: something around 150wx2

GearGuy2001
10-15-2008, 12:33 PM
I bridged my Alpine MRPF450 for my ID CTX65CS's, They are rated at 100w rms, Im running 125w rms to them and with my amp bridged like it is it can deliver upto 200w rms x2.

Xprime4
10-15-2008, 12:41 PM
I bridged my Alpine MRPF450 for my ID CTX65CS's, They are rated at 100w rms, Im running 125w rms to them and with my amp bridged like it is it can deliver upto 200w rms x2.

have you tried it with 150watt rms+ or do you stay at 125 because they don't want more?

tapout
10-15-2008, 01:12 PM
http://audio-n-more.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?store_code=ANM&screen=PROD&product_code=CTX65CS

GlocksRock
10-15-2008, 01:21 PM
Elemental Designs nine.4 bridged will give you 150x2.

Xprime4
10-15-2008, 03:32 PM
from what i've read audio-n-save isn't really reliable... they just don't have those in stock since few months... they might have gotten some more tough

thedigitel
10-15-2008, 04:56 PM
They are out of stock and told me they would not be getting any more. They really need to update their (terrible) website.

TerryMorgan
10-15-2008, 05:24 PM
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=6097 150wx2 RMS, there ya go.

Xprime4
10-17-2008, 06:43 PM
i've been powering them up to 300watt each, not for a long time but they didn't smell. The midbass isn't there unless you got a LOT of power... i woudln't even try at 100 watt. Maybe they just need broken time... but at low level, there is no midbass at all.

Xprime4
10-17-2008, 06:44 PM
but at 300watt , they sound fantastic and they look like little subs in my door! They play down to 80hz @300watt , impressive

mustbenu
10-17-2008, 08:26 PM
then why are they rated at 100w

SHOemup233
10-17-2008, 08:36 PM
then why are they rated at 100w

Music is dynamic. It isn't like powering subs at all. The guy who is powering his speakers with a 300 watt to each side, they probably rarely even see over 100 watts to each side. Only rarely at peaks. I'm sure helotaxi or audioholic can get on here and give you a much more knowledgeable answer, that is the basics of what I know though.

Xprime4
10-17-2008, 10:00 PM
yep but subs notes are dynamics too,

same thing with component....

I know they aren't getting 300watt at all time, but i mainly listen to rap and those big bass note need a lot of power, this is where the power goes.

I'm not listening to 1k sine wave all day long, but the speakers are set so they are getting 300 watt RMS. Power goes under most of the time, but it can also go higher for a fraction of second, isn't its?

Just for fun when i was setting my subs with dmm, my voltage need to be at 48volt. Then, i put hypnotize from jeezy and still checking the voltage, it goes up to 60, but only for a short burst...

In the end, they'll take anyting from 100 to 300, but there is a BIG difference in the output, midbass in particular

Xprime4
10-17-2008, 10:06 PM
Any good speaker can take 3x their rated power, just send clean signal

endofdays89
10-17-2008, 10:09 PM
Any good speaker can take 3x their rated power, just send clean signal

watch them gains if it is that high

Xprime4
10-17-2008, 10:12 PM
As long as the crossover does it job without phasing problem and the speakers aren't bottoming and it sound clean then it's fine. I had to put my high pass at 120 hz with my old ctd coz they were bottoming with 3x rated power. They smell a little on young jeezy songs, but hey jeezy is in another class, it's almost like playing bass sweep

Anyway you'll notice when thney don't feel fine, odors never lies :p

mustbenu
10-17-2008, 11:53 PM
i mean for the price these speakers are supposed to be the best right? i did alot of reading and am hearing rave reviews about these... i found them real cheap at http://www.audio-n-more.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CTX65CS&Category_Code=IMSPK
is this place reliable anyone use them before?

shaneb
10-17-2008, 11:59 PM
:fyi: Power doesn't blow speakers, distortion does. :fyi:

So yes, typically you are safe running double the power to a speaker, just watch your gains.

I will be running my CTX65's off 150rms@4 ohms each, and Eric Stevens (owner of ID) says that will work great. They will be fine.

ID has their own forum, it's a great source of information on anything you want to do. And their tech guys and Eric Stevens both will answer your questions :fyi:
Also, horsemanwill is a IDaholic, he knows their stuff in and out.

mustbenu
10-18-2008, 12:17 AM
shane what amp are u using

shaneb
10-18-2008, 12:23 AM
shane what amp are u using

Memphis 16-PR300.2

Edit: If you want a warranty on them, and you want to buy online. You HAVE to buy them at www.woofersetc.com that is the ONLY online authorized dealer.
Careful dealing with others

Horsemanwill
10-18-2008, 12:26 AM
i mean for the price these speakers are supposed to be the best right? i did alot of reading and am hearing rave reviews about these... i found them real cheap at http://www.audio-n-more.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=CTX65CS&Category_Code=IMSPK
is this place reliable anyone use them before?


i'll say it again cus i've said it before audio-n-more isn't an Id dealer their are multiple posts on here about them not even having stock. they do the bait and switch. woofersetc.com is the only authorized online dealer.

shaneb
10-18-2008, 12:29 AM
i'll say it again cus i've said it before audio-n-more isn't an Id dealer their are multiple posts on here about them not even having stock. they do the bait and switch. woofersetc.com is the only authorized online dealer.

I am ShaneB and I approve this message.

horsemanwill knows his ID...

Horsemanwill
10-18-2008, 12:34 AM
maybe just a lil

mustbenu
10-18-2008, 12:51 AM
any other options for an amp 240$ seems a little high just to power the front speakers

endofdays89
10-18-2008, 12:55 AM
any other options for an amp 240$ seems a little high just to power the front speakers

please get this amp, it is a beast and it looks awesome at night.........


http://ikesound.com/product-product_id/8000



i am telling you, don't worry about the refurbished BS, it will be just fine. It retails for 259.00

mustbenu
10-18-2008, 01:03 AM
its only 100w thought and these guys are saying to run 200w

endofdays89
10-18-2008, 01:05 AM
its only 100w thought and these guys are saying to run 200w

sorry man, i thought you meant 100 total. One sec

yeah, you should run 200 to them. I will find another good amp

SHOemup233
10-18-2008, 01:24 AM
yep but subs notes are dynamics too,

same thing with component....

I know they aren't getting 300watt at all time, but i mainly listen to rap and those big bass note need a lot of power, this is where the power goes.

I'm not listening to 1k sine wave all day long, but the speakers are set so they are getting 300 watt RMS. Power goes under most of the time, but it can also go higher for a fraction of second, isn't its?

Just for fun when i was setting my subs with dmm, my voltage need to be at 48volt. Then, i put hypnotize from jeezy and still checking the voltage, it goes up to 60, but only for a short burst...

In the end, they'll take anyting from 100 to 300, but there is a BIG difference in the output, midbass in particular

No. You don't understand what I was saying at all. Yes, sub 80 hz is dynamic also.

Speakers will barely ever even go over 100 watts, let alone 300, when set at 300 RMS. It is not subs at all, where they are set at 1200 RMS and they receive 500-1000 often.

Horsemanwill
10-18-2008, 01:38 AM
any other options for an amp 240$ seems a little high just to power the front speakers

so your saying that two of these for my front stage was to much?

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=6674

endofdays89
10-18-2008, 01:42 AM
so your saying that two of these for my front stage was to much?

http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=6674

get this amp and bridge your speakers to 2 ohms

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-08-ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-PUNCH-P400-4-4CHANNEL-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ190259198479QQcmdZViewItem?hash =item190259198479&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-08-ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-PUNCH-P400-4-4CHANNEL-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ190259198479QQcmdZViewItem?hash =item190259198479&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)

Horsemanwill
10-18-2008, 01:45 AM
get this amp and bridge your speakers to 2 ohms

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-08-ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-PUNCH-P400-4-4CHANNEL-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ190259198479QQcmdZViewItem?hash =item190259198479&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A4|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


who me?

endofdays89
10-18-2008, 01:46 AM
who me?

i was talking to the OP. I guess i quoted you

lyttleviet
10-18-2008, 06:40 AM
If you are going to be spending close to 250.. Get the Diamond Audio D3 500.4.. This will give you plenty of headroom and clean power. It does 250x2 @ 4 ohms.

Xprime4
10-19-2008, 06:46 PM
after few days and little playing time, the midbass really start to impress me. The woofer seems a little less stiff that when they were out of the box.

mustbenu
10-19-2008, 09:30 PM
Ive narrowed it down to 2 amps to power the CTX65CS
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&product_id=6097
OR
http://www.onlinecarstereo.com/CarAudio/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=19462

lyttleviet
10-20-2008, 12:47 AM
2 completely different type of amplifiers as far as quality goes..

mustbenu
10-20-2008, 02:18 PM
which one is better quality?

datboiroy
10-20-2008, 02:20 PM
i like the diamond audio 500.4. heard them on a set of xs 6x9 components and they sound good.