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JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 12:01 AM
My $100 Pioneer 6x9's in a sealed box running off a head unit have 100x more mid bass then my Alpine type X pros getting 125 RMS a piece mounted in my doors. Is this simply because of the 6x9's being in a sealed box or what? Thanks I am definately looking into the GTI JBL componets with the crossover the size of an amp.

da box king
10-14-2008, 12:03 AM
yes cuz they are in a sealed box....seal off your doors and deaden

Louisiana_CRX
10-14-2008, 12:05 AM
yes cuz they are in a sealed box....seal off your doors and deaden

x2

kmanian
10-14-2008, 12:08 AM
yes cuz they are in a sealed box....seal off your doors and deaden

X3

spencer321
10-14-2008, 12:11 AM
yes cuz they are in a sealed box....seal off your doors and deaden

x4

Horsemanwill
10-14-2008, 12:12 AM
x infinity

Anniku989
10-14-2008, 12:14 AM
x4
x2

JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 12:15 AM
X3

Thanks for the replies. I already have about 4 sheets of Damplifier Pro on both doors. I will work on sealing them off/ and or fiberglass door pods. It might be hard to totally seal the door off.

lyttleviet
10-14-2008, 02:24 AM
man with the deadening it should be getting lots of midbass response as is...

bigbangtheory
10-14-2008, 05:19 AM
Not if he has it deadened and not sealed off with big gaping holes exposed. I recommend roof flashing and sheet metal screws and then deaden over that and should help out a lot. Also the 6x9's have thier own little enclosure, so of course they are going to get more mid-bass response.

Twistid
10-14-2008, 05:21 AM
Just get kick pods.

bigbangtheory
10-14-2008, 05:24 AM
Kick pods only sound good IMO if you make them yourself. Don't go out and get those Q-forms. Had those before and blew monkey balls! And even tried to seal them better and still didn' t get good response.

Trust me, seal off the holes, it will help out.

TSGP
10-14-2008, 05:35 AM
well basicall you have a woofer with a total displacement of 45 sq inches (btw a 10 just has 78.5 sq inches) in a sealed enclosure....vs say 6.5s in the doors? which is 33 sq inches per driver in basically a free air environment.

You say you deadened and thats great if you got all the resonation out of the door but be aware its almost IMPOSSIBLE to totally seal off a door.

I agree with whats been said, grab some sheet metal cover the big gaps in the doors and do a few layers of deadener over it

JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 11:18 AM
Thanks for the help. I think I am going to pick up another set of kick panels at the junkyard and do some fiberglass work to them. Possibly move the tweets to the pillars as well.

chunky cumz
10-14-2008, 11:20 AM
what x's can i be? 38?

JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 11:48 AM
I am thinking of leaving the X's in the doors and getting Pioneer Premier TS-C720PRS to put in the kick panels that I am going to build, but I am not so sure mixing speakers would be a good idea inless i turned the X's down a lot.

WrenchGuy
10-14-2008, 11:56 AM
By the reviews I've read I'd say the Premiers will be the only thing you need.

alxmlr789
10-14-2008, 12:00 PM
I just ordered some type X's last night.

I hope i wont be regretting it.


To the OP, can you Bi amp the type X's? I'm thinkin of running 180 to the mids, and 60 to the tweets.

Buck
10-14-2008, 12:04 PM
x2

x8?

ABSOLUTEAUDIO
10-14-2008, 12:23 PM
Are your mid's in phase? turn your balance all the way to one side left or right, Is the bass output louder set to one side?

ABSOLUTEAUDIO
10-14-2008, 12:24 PM
I have ran into this many times( alot with RE audio xxx comps!).

James Bang
10-14-2008, 12:35 PM
I just ordered some type X's last night.

I hope i wont be regretting it.


To the OP, can you Bi amp the type X's? I'm thinkin of running 180 to the mids, and 60 to the tweets.

I know the old type x comps can be bi-amped. Dont' tune w/ watts, use your ears ;)

7>6

JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 09:18 PM
Are your mid's in phase? turn your balance all the way to one side left or right, Is the bass output louder set to one side?

Same amount of midbass on both sides. The speakers actually get much quieter and bass much less when I change the balance to one side.

JBLGTI
10-14-2008, 10:54 PM
Looks like I am going to try MAch 5 Mli-65's in a custom built kick first to add to my Type X's. On my 4 channel amp, would I put the HP filter on? Thanks

Macklessdaddy
10-15-2008, 12:59 AM
I just ordered some type X's last night.

I hope i wont be regretting it.


To the OP, can you Bi amp the type X's? I'm thinkin of running 180 to the mids, and 60 to the tweets.

they can be bi amp'd

Towncar
10-15-2008, 01:02 AM
My $100 Pioneer 6x9's in a sealed box running off a head unit have 100x more mid bass then my Alpine type X pros getting 125 RMS a piece mounted in my doors. Is this simply because of the 6x9's being in a sealed box or what? Thanks I am definately looking into the GTI JBL componets with the crossover the size of an amp.

Deadning will help a ton, but also realize that a 6*9 is also a much larger driver aswell. So a 6*9 having more midbass than a 6.5 isnt uncommon.

JBLGTI
10-15-2008, 08:56 PM
Doors are deadened and do not rattle at all. 6x9's produce oval sound waves though!! lol