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chris.db
10-11-2008, 03:44 PM
here u can post street A instals, I am very interest which amp/sub/battery do you use and how much do you have hit with them.. thx
chris

15nissen
10-11-2008, 04:20 PM
here u can post street A instals, I am very interest which amp/sub/battery do you use and how much do you have hit with them.. thx
chris

No one who is competitive in any dbdrag class is going to post pictures, especially with world finals coming up.

WildSebring
10-11-2008, 04:23 PM
Hell , aint DB DRAG world finals going on right now ? :wow:

hazardous0388
10-11-2008, 04:53 PM
that is correct

chris.db
10-12-2008, 08:51 AM
no I dont need pics... I just want for info with which amp/sub/batt you hit max spl...

kmanian
10-12-2008, 08:58 AM
no I dont need pics... I just want for info with which amp/sub/batt you hit max spl...big sub+ big amp + big battery = big SPL


I hope that helps;)
















Seriously that is a wide open question. dive some details and you may get some help.

skadude016
10-12-2008, 09:05 AM
big sub+ big amp + big battery = big SPL


I hope that helps;)
















Seriously that is a wide open question. dive some details and you may get some help.

truth. There is so much more than just woofer, amp, and battery too :)

kmanian
10-12-2008, 09:33 AM
And remember that the final outcome is typically based on 10% product and 90% install.

chris.db
10-15-2008, 01:41 PM
yes I know that nobody show his know how... I just want some tips, becasue I don`t want make my instal in a panda/crx.. but in just normal small car like volkswagen golf -rabbit in US....
how to find out resonance freq of my car and how should look like a eclosure for tuning...
I have already 2xDD 3510 c/f, D1,5, alum coils... and I am waiting for money and buy some 4-5 kW amp...

Ed Lester
10-15-2008, 02:45 PM
To be truly competitive in Street you will need a CRX or at very least a Yaris.
Get some DD9910Z or equivelant like T3 TSNS and the most efficient 5K-10K amp you can get. Like the Hifonics Maxximus or American Bass 10K.

But Street A is 90% box and port so unless you build the best box, the equipment above will do no good.

DB_DRAG_SPL
10-15-2008, 03:06 PM
To be truly competitive in Street you will need a CRX or at very least a Yaris.
Get some DD9910Z or equivelant like T3 TSNS and the most efficient 5K-10K amp you can get. Like the Hifonics Maxximus or American Bass 10K.

But Street A is 90% box and port so unless you build the best box, the equipment above will do no good.

x2, any street class anymore you're going to need a mini car and $texas$ wattage. I hope they revisit the idea of restricting the wattage in each street class next season. It would level out the playing field somewhat.

dtbrown
10-16-2008, 12:35 AM
To be truly competitive in Street you will need a CRX or at very least a Yaris.
Get some DD9910Z or equivelant like T3 TSNS and the most efficient 5K-10K amp you can get. Like the Hifonics Maxximus or American Bass 10K.

But Street A is 90% box and port so unless you build the best box, the equipment above will do no good.

In street class you for sure don't need DD9910Z's. With the power limited in Street Class by battery size you won't take advantage of what the Z motor can do. At a minimum a DD F motor up to a G motor works best. And I'd say it's more like 30% equipment and 70% box. Because with out good equipment even the best box won't reach it's potential.

Ed Lester
10-16-2008, 12:51 AM
In street class you for sure don't need DD9910Z's. With the power limited in Street Class by battery size you won't take advantage of what the Z motor can do. At a minimum a DD F motor up to a G motor works best. And I'd say it's more like 30% equipment and 70% box. Because with out good equipment even the best box won't reach it's potential.

But the top Street scores are being done with Zs.

DB_DRAG_SPL
10-16-2008, 11:51 AM
But the top Street scores are being done with Zs.

And 7-10kw amps and multiples of them. I think a wattage restriction is definately in need next season. :verymad:

djman37
10-16-2008, 11:57 AM
But the top Street scores are being done with Zs.

i wonder who's selling a z motor? :crazy:

dtbrown
10-17-2008, 01:00 AM
But the top Street scores are being done with Zs.

I know all the equipment being used in street classes and no one at finals last weekend was using Z's. Someone on my team has Z's and went to finals with his f motor 10's because the Z's weren't as efficient. Not saying that Z's can't get loud but with only getting between 4500-5k in Street A with one amp and then split that power between two sub isn't enough for the Z's. The Z's need at least 4500w each to be taken advantage of. For example one single Z 10" with 4500w is louder than a single F or G motor 10". But once you put two Z's with same power the F efficiency of motor takes over and is louder.

With power limitation the Z's aren't worth the extra money. Invest in 9500G's or f motors and recone them.

Ed Lester
10-17-2008, 01:01 AM
What about Ray Farmer is Street A?

dtbrown
10-17-2008, 01:07 AM
And 7-10kw amps and multiples of them. I think a wattage restriction is definately in need next season. :verymad:

We might be using 7-10k amps but with the battery limitation you can only get so much power out of one battery. For example the Stetsom 7k2d/10k 12v will only get about 4800w out of a smaller battery like a odyssey 1700, 1750, nsb g2700. Then on a single group 31 battery like a odyssey / stinger 2150, nsb g3100 the stetsom 7k2d/10k get about 5300w. Then with two stetsom 7k2d's/10k's on a single odyssey / stinger, nsb g3100 you'll about 7k power.

Give it these amplifiers have a lot more potential power to be created but the battery is limiting the amps and there is only so much power you can get from one battery. To give you an idea if you add another nsb g3100 on the two 7k2d/10k's you'll get over 10k power. That's a big jump from 7k with just one battery. Hope this helps.

dtbrown
10-17-2008, 01:10 AM
What about Ray Farmer is Street A?

That's who I was talking about. He ran his F motors. A single Z motor was loud as hell and was I think .5 db louder than a single f motor 10 but once he put two subs together the efficiency of the two f motors was .5db louder than the two Z motors. Also the z motors need a bigger box and bigger box that takes up more displacement isn't good for a crx. But he's not given up on the Z's yet. He's having them reconed to a lighter suspension to see if he can get them louder.

Ed Lester
10-17-2008, 01:14 AM
so Zs can work but they may need totally different box and tuning.
Jeeze, too much work.

bones22
10-17-2008, 01:17 AM
i wonder who's selling a z motor? :crazy:

if it was still the 10 i would want it back
if i had $ at least
i never should have sold the sub

dtbrown
10-17-2008, 01:23 AM
so Zs can work but they may need totally different box and tuning.
Jeeze, too much work.

Correct. Different box for sure and looks like different suspension too. We'll know that soon to. Like I said Ray hasn't given up yet. :)

Ed Lester
10-17-2008, 01:24 AM
alot of money, I dont blame him to not give up.

chris.db
10-17-2008, 11:03 AM
I heard that CRX is not very good in street A class when it has the rear seats.. its true?

DUMPED
10-17-2008, 04:59 PM
well to clarify the Z woofer has be proven very effective and potent in Street application in Europe. Now I know people are going to say that they're using the Panda and yada yada but regardless of that they are still using that woffer.

Odds are that they either run the CS 12 or the Z..you'll hardly find them messing with the G series motor.. they're pretty crazy like that..

chris.db
10-18-2008, 03:34 PM
do ya think that it is possible in this car to hit 150db with 2x 3510
http://designercars.nl/biler/VW-model-21.jpg

chris.db
10-18-2008, 03:36 PM
this is better pic

http://www.zwalve.eu/d/1620-2/P1010001.JPG

DUMPED
10-18-2008, 03:52 PM
thats the POLO ...correct?

chris.db
10-18-2008, 04:21 PM
yes polo 6n but it is a European car

DUMPED
10-18-2008, 04:25 PM
I know the Polo...
I cant see it being any better than the newer Golfs..

bball09124
10-18-2008, 04:50 PM
do ya think that it is possible in this car to hit 150db with 2x 3510
http://designercars.nl/biler/VW-model-21.jpg

Anything's possible. You are going to need a meter for all the testing you are going to have to do, and be willing to put some time into testing and tweaking your setup. But those 3510's have the capabilities for sure.

chris.db
10-22-2008, 10:03 AM
I know but have u some idea for start of enclosure deisgn ?

Skip01
10-22-2008, 08:00 PM
subs forward ports back...small box

Seth_3515
11-09-2008, 12:37 PM
i have an 2001 Audi TT that i want to use in street stock... i have a 9515, with a Orion 2500D and one extra battery... does anyone know if this car is illegal? they say no CRX's or Panda's.. so i was just wondering before i start installing to the guidelines of this class

Ed Lester
11-09-2008, 12:42 PM
i have an 2001 Audi TT that i want to use in street stock... i have a 9515, with a Orion 2500D and one extra battery... does anyone know if this car is illegal? they say no CRX's or Panda's.. so i was just wondering before i start installing to the guidelines of this class

Your equipment is not legal for street stock.

There will be approved equipment lists for 09 but the amp power limit will be either 1000w or 2000w and subs like a 9500 are too beefy.

You can search the rules here www.termpro.com

Seth_3515
11-09-2008, 12:52 PM
okay sorry, i was looking through the rules and it didnt have anything about wattage but thanks for the info