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John2005
10-09-2008, 09:14 AM
I am thinking about redoing my mids and highs with a total of 8 Selenium 6W4P 6" Woofers 2 in the front doors, 2 in some kick panels, 2 in the middle section and 2 in the rear. Also thinking about a total of 8 Selenium St200 supertweeters, 3 on each side of my front and 2 in the rear. I will be running them off a Audio System Twister F4-600 at 2ohm with the specs below.

4 x 145W RMS @ 4 Ohm
4 x 230W RMS @ 2 Ohm
2 x 460W RMS @ 4 Ohm Bridged Mono

Buck
10-09-2008, 09:15 AM
Loud always sounds good ;)

I think.

mlstrass
10-09-2008, 09:19 AM
No.....

John2005
10-09-2008, 09:22 AM
No.....

Its not like I expect it to sound like some morel or higher end cdt or anything like that. I just want the words to be clear and the midbass to be good, but don't expect it to be like some rsd's or anything like that.

grimreper912003
10-09-2008, 09:27 AM
why so many? Spend less on quanity and more on quality

mlstrass
10-09-2008, 09:33 AM
in theory you won't have to push them very hard with so many drivers, so that could help with distortion, but I'm "assuming" you want to be heard from blocks away and will have them set on kill...

iamamp3pimp
10-09-2008, 09:37 AM
i wouldnt do it

its be too loud

one of those supertweets hurt, alot

mcsoul
10-09-2008, 09:57 AM
I am thinking about redoing my mids and highs with a total of 8 Selenium 6W4P 6" Woofers 2 in the front doors, 2 in some kick panels, 2 in the middle section and 2 in the rear. Also thinking about a total of 8 Selenium St200 supertweeters, 3 on each side of my front and 2 in the rear. I will be running them off a Audio System Twister F4-600 at 2ohm with the specs below.

4 x 145W RMS @ 4 Ohm
4 x 230W RMS @ 2 Ohm
2 x 460W RMS @ 4 Ohm Bridged Mono

I think florida does have a minimum of 8 supertweeters per door, you may want to look it up. :D

lorideslo
10-09-2008, 10:09 AM
why so many? Spend less on quanity and more on quality

x2

Rashaddd
10-09-2008, 10:12 AM
in theory you won't have to push them very hard with so many drivers, so that could help with distortion, but I'm "assuming" you want to be heard from blocks away and will have them set on kill...

Thats what I'd think...set them conservatively, and the added cone area with less power will sound better

James Bang
10-09-2008, 10:50 AM
if dumb sounds good to you, then yes, it will sound good.

Louisiana_CRX
10-09-2008, 10:55 AM
i think you need at least one set of super tweeters per 6 to get it really loud and clear.....so maybe eight 6's and 16 super tweeters...that bish will scream...you can always use an aftermarket eq to clean up the sound if needed.....

DDeitz
10-09-2008, 10:57 AM
if your ears aint bleeding turn it up some more.

cjcrook
10-09-2008, 11:27 AM
With that many drivers spread throughout the entire vehicle then you are going to have sound coming from different parts of the car at different distances away from the passenger(s). Not the best combination for true SQ. I agree to buy less and higher quality.

mcsoul
10-09-2008, 11:32 AM
if your ears aint bleeding turn it up some more.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p30/OzCollecta/stoned.jpg

:)

mlstrass
10-09-2008, 11:42 AM
I highly doubt true SQ is his goal. Just lots of loud obnoxious noise that can be heard from far away...

stuckinok
10-09-2008, 11:49 AM
Hood Ninjas will think it sounds great :fyi:

galacticmonkey
10-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Id only run 4 tweeters. Those are beyond loud. Im guessing you have never heard them before?

James Bang
10-09-2008, 12:36 PM
two tweets would be ideal for music. one for each side.

John2005
10-09-2008, 12:40 PM
I highly doubt true SQ is his goal. Just lots of loud obnoxious noise that can be heard from far away...

Read on the first page....it tells you what I want reading>you.


Id only run 4 tweeters. Those are beyond loud. Im guessing you have never heard them before?

No I have 2 D250-X horns inside my car right now and 2 st-200 supertweeters sitting waiting to be installed.

galacticmonkey
10-09-2008, 12:44 PM
Those D250s are crazy too.

Its just a personal preference... But I like alot more mid than I do tweeter. Alot of cars get a bad rap with PA equipment because people run like 4 6.5s and 12 tweeters.

For instance, when I run an Eminence Alpha 6, I usually like 1 APT-80 tweeter per mid, or 1 tweet per 2 mids.

John2005
10-09-2008, 01:11 PM
Those D250s are crazy too.

Its just a personal preference... But I like alot more mid than I do tweeter. Alot of cars get a bad rap with PA equipment because people run like 4 6.5s and 12 tweeters.

For instance, when I run an Eminence Alpha 6, I usually like 1 APT-80 tweeter per mid, or 1 tweet per 2 mids.


thats what im trying to do...1 per mid so 8 mids and 8 supertweeters

grimreper912003
10-09-2008, 01:14 PM
thats what im trying to do...1 per mid so 8 mids and 8 supertweeters

But hes stating that the tweeter will be to loud. Truthfuly you would probably be fine with 2 sets of mids and a set of tweeters. And how do you stage that many tweeters and mids?

galacticmonkey
10-09-2008, 01:37 PM
Well Ive owned both the APT-80s from Eminence, and the ST350s from Selenium. Id go with 1 APT-80 per mid, and 1 ST350 per 2 mids. The ST350s are just so efficient and loud its scary.

Tehgregzor
10-09-2008, 01:45 PM
where will you have room to mount all this **** anyways?

skadude016
10-09-2008, 01:53 PM
Well Ive owned both the APT-80s from Eminence, and the ST350s from Selenium. Id go with 1 APT-80 per mid, and 1 ST350 per 2 mids. The ST350s are just so efficient and loud its scary.

which has more of a harsh sound?

galacticmonkey
10-09-2008, 04:32 PM
They are about equal in that respect, but the ST350 seems to be a good bit louder because of the efficiency.

mannyahles
10-09-2008, 07:08 PM
8 mids and 4 tweets IMO..... man you must not care about your hearing when you get older! lol

Back in the mid 80's everyone ran tons of speakers and at least 4 woofers. But I feel that my current system is my over all best sounding, hard hitting, loud, SQ system. And I have 2 mids, 2 tweets, and 2 subs......

John2005
10-09-2008, 08:13 PM
where will you have room to mount all this **** anyways?

ill show you when i take pics of the build in a few months.

ngsm13
10-09-2008, 08:18 PM
Way to be a h00d ninja....

:rolleyes:

nG

NeedDirections
10-09-2008, 10:10 PM
It's going to sound like crap and you will be damaging your hearing in a rather unpleasant way.

Etac
10-09-2008, 10:14 PM
i didnt read all the responses but sounds like a very bad idea... there would be so many imbalances, cancelations.. timing.. ect.. it would be loud... but SQ > loud by far.. and you can have SQ while still getting pretty loud as long as you got proper tuning and setup..

plus do you really wanna be one of these fegs that think they're cool by how loud their radio is that sounds like complete garbage?

galacticmonkey
10-10-2008, 12:19 PM
SQ > loud by far..
Opinion.

John2005
10-10-2008, 12:39 PM
Opinion.

want SPL not Great SQ or SQL.

Symon_say
10-10-2008, 12:48 PM
Just put 2 12" eV mids and you'll loud as hell, it wont be nice inside the car, but once you open and hear it from outside it will sound really nice.

A lot of people do this kind of installation here, i just dont like it, cause it's supossed to be "YOUR MUSIC, YOUR SYSTEM" no everybody music.

bigpeach1
01-12-2009, 04:27 PM
ya will be real loud, my friend had something similar but more speakers in his h2. he has eminence & seleniums, they get so loud you think your ears are bleeding but the sq isnt very good. still the loudest thing and people a mile away will be able to hear it. i say do it

SSS 18734
01-12-2009, 04:35 PM
If you want to get loud, why not do a horn install?

SSS 18734
01-12-2009, 04:35 PM
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SSS 18734
01-12-2009, 04:36 PM
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SSS 18734
01-12-2009, 04:36 PM
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oneflatoniakid
01-12-2009, 06:55 PM
8 mids and 4 tweets IMO..... man you must not care about your hearing when you get older! lol

Back in the mid 80's everyone ran tons of speakers and at least 4 woofers. But I feel that my current system is my over all best sounding, hard hitting, loud, SQ system. And I have 2 mids, 2 tweets, and 2 subs......
Thats a good setup you have.
Quality more than quanity & the right equipment.

dewey79
01-13-2009, 10:11 PM
Back in the day, This guy had one set sony mobile es aluminum speakers and he had an amp on each speacker. I swear I have never heard anything that was that loud, crispy, and clear since. Talk about loud quality sound, I didn't know speakers had the capability to play or sound like that until then. The base from those speakers were amazing as well.

I am a fan of going with just one set of components in the front with a good amp and those will fill the whole car with sound, loud, clear quality sound. I know that I would not even be able to take another set of speakers I have now being in the car.

griffin850
01-14-2009, 05:07 PM
I agree with the ev's, they sound pretty clean. or go with 10'' mids if possible. I used to have 3 kappa pro 10'' mids and a selenium horn fiberglassed in each door and it balanced well. Before I went away for school my twelve 10's were able to drowned out everyone i played and still stayed clear. You dont need that many, i was a little younger and was bent on being the loudest. Have recently come to the realization i will never be close unless i win lotto or powerball so i downgraded. But a few tens on a quality amp will sound good man.

orangecounty1
01-16-2009, 09:10 AM
wewt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/pimpedout92x/Mini%20Wall%20V2/DSCF2786.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/pimpedout92x/Mini%20Wall%20V2/DSCF2785.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/pimpedout92x/Mini%20Wall%20V2/DSCF2783.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/pimpedout92x/Mini%20Wall%20V2/CIMG2503.jpg

orangecounty1
01-16-2009, 09:12 AM
It's going to sound like crap and you will be damaging your hearing in a rather unpleasant way.

:furious:

mine wont sound like crap :D