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Slamuwell Jaxon
09-21-2008, 09:34 PM
Hi guys, so I'm stuck making a very hard choice, I can't decide whether or not to get the cda-9887 or the ida-x100. I've done my research on both for like the past month or so and I still can't come to a conclusion. The only one I'm leaning towards right now is the 9887 because I figured I'd have to invest in the Imprint module for the x100 for it to match the 9887's sound quality, but other than that I really can't decide. Any feedback? Thanks in advance

alxmlr789
09-21-2008, 10:57 PM
I feel like the 9887 would be useless unless you are gonna run it active.

Just me though.

Slamuwell Jaxon
09-21-2008, 11:31 PM
I feel like the 9887 would be useless unless you are gonna run it active.

Just me though.

I know this is kind of a noob question lol, I kind of have an idea of what active is, but how would you run it active?

alxmlr789
09-21-2008, 11:38 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146726


Read on.

Basically, the 9887 has Built in crossovers and slopes, this allows you to ditch the passive x-overs of your components. You can put more power to you mids, and tweeters, ( not that it is always needed) but it gives you excellent control of all your speakers individually.

Slamuwell Jaxon
09-21-2008, 11:44 PM
http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146726


Read on.

Basically, the 9887 has Built in crossovers and slopes, this allows you to ditch the passive x-overs of your components. You can put more power to you mids, and tweeters, ( not that it is always needed) but it gives you excellent control of all your speakers individually.

Nice read, thanks man. Anybody else have an opinion?

alxmlr789
09-22-2008, 12:17 AM
I've owned 2 9887's, loved em both. The EQ and T/A is still useful if you know who to use it ;)

Keep in mind that the X100 has NO CD player, No built in EQ (besides treble and bass), 2v preouts (meh) and the Ipod control is nothing special.

I would get the 9887, and after you get the hang of it, run active with it.

Slamuwell Jaxon
09-22-2008, 12:41 AM
I've owned 2 9887's, loved em both. The EQ and T/A is still useful if you know who to use it ;)

Keep in mind that the X100 has NO CD player, No built in EQ (besides treble and bass), 2v preouts (meh) and the Ipod control is nothing special.

I would get the 9887, and after you get the hang of it, run active with it.


wow, 2? lol, they must be worth it :D. and yeah i agree, the missing EQ and 2v preouts are definitely a turn off for me, but i know you can up the preouts to 4v with the imprint but that's another $150 or so investment.

Now what's this about the ipod control being nothing special? they advertise it as it's flagship feature and i havent gotten a chance to play w/ an x100 that actually had an ipod hooked up to it to see for myself.

GAM3OVR
09-22-2008, 12:43 AM
Hi guys, so I'm stuck making a very hard choice, I can't decide whether or not to get the cda-9887 or the ida-x100. I've done my research on both for like the past month or so and I still can't come to a conclusion. The only one I'm leaning towards right now is the 9887 because I figured I'd have to invest in the Imprint module for the x100 for it to match the 9887's sound quality, but other than that I really can't decide. Any feedback? Thanks in advance

9887 FTW

whitemax
09-22-2008, 01:46 AM
I feel like the 9887 would be useless unless you are gonna run it active.

Just me though.


I feel that even if you don't run it active, it is still a very useful unit.

alxmlr789
09-22-2008, 02:53 AM
I feel that even if you don't run it active, it is still a very useful unit.

Yeah, I retract that previous statement. I realized the T/C and the eq are both good features.


To the OP. The ipod feature on the X100 is the ONLY feature on the unit. lol I can find stuff just as quickly on the 9887 as I can on the X100, it just has one less line of display.

Macklessdaddy
09-22-2008, 09:37 PM
I feel that even if you don't run it active, it is still a very useful unit.

What's up Juan,have those rainbows broken in yet?we have to get together again so I can hear them now.

Slamuwell Jaxon
09-22-2008, 09:55 PM
thanks for all of your feedback guys, I went through with the 9887 for 280$ shipped and including the ipod cable on ebay :veryhapp:

alex5857
09-22-2008, 10:50 PM
well, if your JUST using the IPOD then i would go with the x100

and to the dude who said the ipod control is nothing special is crazy...its hands down the best out..extremely easy to use i love it.

i owned a x001 then went to the 9886 and hated the ipod control and went to the newer model x100

alxmlr789
09-22-2008, 10:59 PM
well, if your JUST using the IPOD then i would go with the x100

and to the dude who said the ipod control is nothing special is crazy...its hands down the best out..extremely easy to use i love it.

i owned a x001 then went to the 9886 and hated the ipod control and went to the newer model x100



Say what you will, but I'm not "crazy". :confused: I find the wheel on the X100 to be bulky and obnoxious. The spring loaded "feature" of the wheel is what really irks me.

I can find songs equally as fast on my 9887.

Slamuwell Jaxon
09-22-2008, 11:17 PM
Say what you will, but I'm not "crazy". :confused: I find the wheel on the X100 to be bulky and obnoxious. The spring loaded "feature" of the wheel is what really irks me.

I can find songs equally as fast on my 9887.

yeah, I was using my friend's 9887 today and went to bestbuy to try out the display x100 they had and I figured the big wheel would eventually irritate the hell out of me lol, the 9887's navigation is pretty slick as well so I don't regret my purchase at all.

alex5857
09-23-2008, 04:00 AM
Say what you will, but I'm not "crazy". :confused: I find the wheel on the X100 to be bulky and obnoxious. The spring loaded "feature" of the wheel is what really irks me.

I can find songs equally as fast on my 9887.

well you must not have alot of music, i have around 10k songs and 6lines of display as opposed to 3 lines is a huge difference to me, not sure how the nav was compared to the 9886 but i noticed a huge difference, plus the album art and the big beautiful color screen is a plus..

ghart999
09-23-2008, 06:06 PM
Not to mention X100 = digital signal from iPod.

buggsson
09-23-2008, 08:12 PM
Not to mention X100 = digital signal from iPod.

Would that be through the dock-connector? And will that enable you to play lossless formats through the X100?

James Bang
09-23-2008, 08:13 PM
easy choice. 9887. CDs > ipod.

whitemax
09-24-2008, 04:05 PM
What's up Juan,have those rainbows broken in yet?we have to get together again so I can hear them now.

Yes they are, let me know when you want to listen to them again.

Macklessdaddy
09-24-2008, 05:16 PM
Yes they are, let me know when you want to listen to them again.

cool, when I get my stuff in my sig installed we shall get together,maybe in the next month or so

ghart999
09-25-2008, 12:50 PM
Would that be through the dock-connector? And will that enable you to play lossless formats through the X100?

Yes through the dock connector via USB only. Yes it plays apple lossless too.

Hence, you have CD quality now since you can play lossless AND bypass the iPod's DACs in favor of the DAcs in the head unit.

buggsson
09-28-2008, 06:36 PM
Yes through the dock connector via USB only. Yes it plays apple lossless too.

Hence, you have CD quality now since you can play lossless AND bypass the iPod's DACs in favor of the DAcs in the head unit.

Yes, that is what I wanted to hear, now I can finally settle on a HU setup that will do lossless, eventhough, I now will have to get an iPod instead of a n USB HD.

buggsson
11-10-2008, 06:51 PM
Yes through the dock connector via USB only. Yes it plays apple lossless too.

Hence, you have CD quality now since you can play lossless AND bypass the iPod's DACs in favor of the DAcs in the head unit.

According to Alpine, you cannot bypass the iPod DACs. If you use the "full speed interface" you can play all formats, but you are then limited to the iPod DACs. And according to Alpine, you cannot play lossless through the USB, as you then can only play the formats that is supported by the iDA-X....

I would like to be able to bypass the iPod DACs as I would believe the DACs of the HU to be better?

Is there stand alone DACs for car use?

Vestax
11-10-2008, 09:03 PM
This thread is like asking what should I get, a BMW M5 or a BMW motorcycle? :confused:

And you don't need the ****ing imprint to run the 9887 properly.

bureau13
11-11-2008, 05:08 PM
I don't know...I'm in the same boat really, with the exception that I'm also sort of considering an IVA-W505 if I can scrape up the cash. Regarding the idea of CDs being superior to the iPod...OK, technically that may be...but I find that when I have a car with the option to use either one, I will 99% use the iPod. I don't know about you guys, but my car is not that quiet that the subtle nuances between a CD version of a song and a reasonable MP3 copy on my iPod are going to make any difference. The ONLY reason I am considering the 9887 is that if I happen to buy a CD at the store, I can pop it in on the way home, or if I forget the iPod or something I have an option other than FM. However, I am not convinced that's enough to warrant the not-as-good (in the opinions of most) iPod interface. And, the x100 looks **** cool, IMO. Not as cool as the W505, but cooler than the 9887. So, it really does come down to what you're most likely to use it for.

jds

funkpnut
11-11-2008, 10:03 PM
According to Alpine, you cannot bypass the iPod DACs. If you use the "full speed interface" you can play all formats, but you are then limited to the iPod DACs. And according to Alpine, you cannot play lossless through the USB, as you then can only play the formats that is supported by the iDA-X....

I own an X100 and PXA-H100 imprint unit. Since everything in my house is iPod friendly, I ditched CD's in favor of iPod only. This combo is a perfect match for me, but at a price compared to the 9887.

I have approximately 80% of my music ripped from disc in Apple Lossless and it does play over USB via iPod and sounds great.

Both the 9887 and X100 are easy to navigate. The previous model, the X001, had the crappy center wheel that was spring loaded, but the X100 has fixed that problem.

I say the 9887 is better bang for your buck based on included features and price, but I can't complain about my purchase, except I want a W505 now. :D

James Bang
11-13-2008, 06:08 PM
This thread is like asking what should I get, a BMW M5 or a BMW motorcycle? :confused:

And you don't need the ****ing imprint to run the 9887 properly.

to hell w/ the imprint.

dlschevy
11-14-2008, 12:52 AM
try 9887

Cpyder
11-22-2008, 11:54 PM
Didn't read the thread but I'm throwing in my two cents. 9887 has a higher output voltage, if that's important to you